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	<title>Comments on: MDN Roadmap for 2010</title>
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	<description>Thoughts on Mozilla marketing, err...engagement.</description>
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		<title>By: Pes 2012</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.org/jay/2010/06/30/mdn-roadmap-for-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-9578</link>
		<dc:creator>Pes 2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 00:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i agree with you :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with you <img src='http://blog.mozilla.org/jay/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Introducing the new MDN website &#171; Development Un-Arrested</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.org/jay/2010/06/30/mdn-roadmap-for-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-7722</link>
		<dc:creator>Introducing the new MDN website &#171; Development Un-Arrested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 20:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] team will be building on Django, similar to the one being implemented for the new SUMO site. Planning is already underway, and we hope to migrate documentation over sometime in [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] team will be building on Django, similar to the one being implemented for the new SUMO site. Planning is already underway, and we hope to migrate documentation over sometime in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Zamir</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.org/jay/2010/06/30/mdn-roadmap-for-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-7515</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Zamir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 05:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two thoughts here...

1) According to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546857 , support for remote XUL is going to be dropped. Short of designing an XSL template to render XUL as HTML (which would be a gol&#039; darn good idea), XUL would be left out of the picture.

2) I&#039;ve been handed the reins for the Extension Developer Extension, and my thought was that perhaps a protocol could be designed to allow a specific format of links to be used at the site or even elsewhere (e.g., code:?lang=JS;text=....) to open up a relevant preview in a supporting extension like our EDE. 

I&#039;m also hoping to add language-aware syntax coloring via use of CodeMirror so it might meet your needs as far as presentation, assuming the crucial issue of security concerns can be addressed. 

Although a web-based option would be nice, I think a client-side trigger option might also be convenient for users, especially those of us where internet service is slow, as we&#039;d only need to download the code snippet rather than all of the JavaScript used by the highlighting/editing app (and we could take advantage of other local features like file saving).  My email is brettz9 at the site known as Yahoo if you want to be in touch about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two thoughts here&#8230;</p>
<p>1) According to <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546857" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546857</a> , support for remote XUL is going to be dropped. Short of designing an XSL template to render XUL as HTML (which would be a gol&#8217; darn good idea), XUL would be left out of the picture.</p>
<p>2) I&#8217;ve been handed the reins for the Extension Developer Extension, and my thought was that perhaps a protocol could be designed to allow a specific format of links to be used at the site or even elsewhere (e.g., code:?lang=JS;text=&#8230;.) to open up a relevant preview in a supporting extension like our EDE. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also hoping to add language-aware syntax coloring via use of CodeMirror so it might meet your needs as far as presentation, assuming the crucial issue of security concerns can be addressed. </p>
<p>Although a web-based option would be nice, I think a client-side trigger option might also be convenient for users, especially those of us where internet service is slow, as we&#8217;d only need to download the code snippet rather than all of the JavaScript used by the highlighting/editing app (and we could take advantage of other local features like file saving).  My email is brettz9 at the site known as Yahoo if you want to be in touch about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Patel</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.org/jay/2010/06/30/mdn-roadmap-for-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-7498</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Patel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 03:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I couldn&#039;t agree with you more skierpage.  

We hope to eventually be able to do everything you suggested.   It&#039;s just a matter of time. :-)

Hacks was the first project as part of the larger MDN initiative, so there is a lot of great things to come!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more skierpage.  </p>
<p>We hope to eventually be able to do everything you suggested.   It&#8217;s just a matter of time. <img src='http://blog.mozilla.org/jay/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hacks was the first project as part of the larger MDN initiative, so there is a lot of great things to come!</p>
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		<title>By: skierpage</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.org/jay/2010/06/30/mdn-roadmap-for-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-7494</link>
		<dc:creator>skierpage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 02:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MDC/MDN will be more compelling if you can interact with the content and examples on the pages.  It&#039;s describing a read/write Web, therefore you should be able to run every little code snippet presented, try every variable described.  This should work for canvas, CSS, HTML, JavaScript, SVG, and XUL.  You&#039;ve got the canvas &quot;View this sample&quot; and the CSS &quot;View Live Examples&quot; but you have to leave the documentation page to see them, you can&#039;t change anything, and the documentation soon returns to code snippets disconnected from complete working programs.  Why can&#039;t I press [GO] in every little JavaScript snippet?  Why can&#039;t I edit the SVG samples and see something happen?

Imagine if when you double-clicked **any** non-C/XPCOM code snippet, and the complete code opened up in an editor and there was live preview as you made changes.  That should be the goal for MDC/MDN; landing pages and new banners are far less important.

It&#039;s the documentation sites and tutorials that encourage this sort of interactivity that gain developer mindshare and make learning Web technologies a joy.  Mozilla has Bespin and Firebug and all kinds of innovation on the hacks blog, but I&#039;m not feeling it on MDC.

Thanks for all you do!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MDC/MDN will be more compelling if you can interact with the content and examples on the pages.  It&#8217;s describing a read/write Web, therefore you should be able to run every little code snippet presented, try every variable described.  This should work for canvas, CSS, HTML, JavaScript, SVG, and XUL.  You&#8217;ve got the canvas &#8220;View this sample&#8221; and the CSS &#8220;View Live Examples&#8221; but you have to leave the documentation page to see them, you can&#8217;t change anything, and the documentation soon returns to code snippets disconnected from complete working programs.  Why can&#8217;t I press [GO] in every little JavaScript snippet?  Why can&#8217;t I edit the SVG samples and see something happen?</p>
<p>Imagine if when you double-clicked **any** non-C/XPCOM code snippet, and the complete code opened up in an editor and there was live preview as you made changes.  That should be the goal for MDC/MDN; landing pages and new banners are far less important.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the documentation sites and tutorials that encourage this sort of interactivity that gain developer mindshare and make learning Web technologies a joy.  Mozilla has Bespin and Firebug and all kinds of innovation on the hacks blog, but I&#8217;m not feeling it on MDC.</p>
<p>Thanks for all you do!</p>
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