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14-September-2009

Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2009-09-14

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WeeklyUpdates/2009-09-14

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Friends of the Tree

Joulie writes in, “I have a special friend of the tree request for tomorrow. It goes to Morgamic for his tremendous help with the interns website (www.interns.mozilla.com). He’s made himself available throughout the whole project and has been super helpful in providing guidance and advice along the way.”

Austin wrote in, “Chris Double has spent quite a bit of time developing a Facebook Connect integration for the Mozilla Service Week codebase, which will be shipping this week.”

Cheng writes, “Bo Bayles (Bo on IRC, bbayles@gmail.com) deserves props for singlehandedly going through all of the SUMO KB and updating it by removing unused old content as well as greatly simplifying a number of articles. ”

Development Updates

Firefox

Firefox Front End Work

Namoroka

  • next milestone: Firefox 3.6 Beta 1
  • Cleared nomination backlog, 29 front end blockers remain.
  • Some of the notable work this week includes:
    • progress on getting Personas integrated into 3.6
    • pushing to get the long-requested about:support troubleshooting page done, to make SUMO’s life better. bug 367596

Gecko

  • Hearing reports of Flash crashes on at least one top site. We’ll be digging into those to determine the exact causes, and if possible, complete fixes.
  • We’re over 120 (about 123) blockers for 1.9.2. Need to start hitting that list hard, pruning if possible.
  • Lots of blockers that need to be prioritized.
  • Mr. David Anderson is now a full-time member of the Javascript team. In case anyone is wondering, David made a tremendous impact on TraceMonkey for Firefox 3.5. Welcome danderson!

Branch work: Firefox 3.0.x / Firefox 3.5.x / Thunderbird 2.0.0.x

Thunderbird 3

  • 3.0b4 release builds start tomorrow, with the new and very cool faceted search feature
  • now is a really helpful, high-leverage time for folks to use and give feedback on the nightly builds
  • thoughtful feedback on current features and bugs very much desired!
  • 3.0 RC 1 work is starting now; we hope to ship in early November

SeaMonkey

  • Released 2.0 Beta 2 on Saturday, feature-complete for 2.0 (based on 1.9.1)
  • Freeze for RCs in early October, final release later that month

Mobile

IT

Last Week

This Week

  • Building up infrastructure to support Personas feature in 3.6

Release Engineering

  • Started max dirty profile testing on Talos
    • Uses large places database, and then runs start up tests.
  • Windows CE builds on Try Server now
    • No unittests

QA

Test Execution

Web Dev Testing

Accessibility, Localization, Community

  • Community
    • Already have a great testday schedule for September – December!!
    • Pushed out QMO 1.1. New features: search users, all projects list, pagination highlighting on the qmo blog, cron (performs maintenance tasks for now), mollom (stopping spam). Total of 95 high priority bugs fixed! Big thanks to Paul, Aakash, Raymond and Tomcat for getting this done!!
    • Next community meet-up is on Wednesday, Sept, 23. Topic is Feature Exploration/Live Testing.
    • [Dev day] is Friday, October 2nd. Members of the QA team will be talking about testing projects and how to get involved.
    • Next OpenSource meet-up in Munich is September 25th.
  • Accessibility: Blogged about recent fixes to make tables more accessible.

Test Development

  • Working with Catlee (who is a GodSend) to get Mozmill Integrated with Buildbot
  • Investigating and fixing Python isues on WINMO and WINCE for Mochitest & XPCShell & Talos foundation work
  • Adding capabilities to the test plugin to create more interesting behaviors for testing (by expanding it to use more of the NPAPI interfaces), extending mochitests for test capabilities at the same time.
  • Completed SMIL animation tests
  • Held the Test Dev Sprint Review, beginning to define our next set of goals for the next set of sprints. More information is here.

Security

No updates this week.

Marketing/PR

PR

Mozilla Service Week

Events

  • Software Freedom Day NZ September 20, 2009, Wellington, NZ – Sponsoring this event
  • Jornadas Regionales de Software Libre en Chile October 7 – 9, 2009, Santiago, Chile – Sponsoring event and bringing together the Mozilla Hispanic Community. + 2 day MozCamp Prior. Invitations have been sent out and we will have around 40 people attending including 6 MoCo representatives.
  • WordCamp Philippines September 19, 2009 in Makati City, Philippines – We are sponsoring this event.  Our mission is to help build up the Philippine community and build the Tagalog locale.
  • Philippine Blog Awards October 9, 2009 in Luzon, Philippines – We are sponsoring this event.  Our mission is to help build up the Philippine community and build the Tagalog locale.

Community

Support

  • SUMO 1.3 was released last week
    • See blog post: SUMO 1.3 – Productization and more
    • Huge thanks to Paul Craciunoiu, James Socol, Eric Cooper, Stephen Donner, Vishal Kamdar, Krupa Raj, and SUMOdev lead Laura Thomson for an extraordinary amount of work. Not to mention IT for all their work with the release push.
  • Firefox Help for Mobile website under construction
    • Beta version up this week
    • Final site with basic help articles ready by end of September

Metrics

Evangelism

Labs

Developer Tools

  • Shipped Bespin 0.4.3 “Chuck Finley” with new “deploy” command, SVN commands, named cursors, and more!
  • Preparing for two more releases this month
  • Aiming to ship an update to the memory tool experiment this week

Add-ons

  • Miami meetup tomorrow, and Chicago meetup on Sept. 29. If you’re in the area, please RSVP and stop by!
  • Extend Firefox submission deadline is Oct. 2. Please spread the word.
  • Contributions graphs turned on last week
  • AMO 5.1 work underway

Webdev

L10n

  • Working pretty hard on shipping a mobile Firefox
  • Verbatim relaunch this week, invitation to localizers
  • We’ve planned the l10n track for MozEU camp
  • Trying to wrap up our Q4 Goals
  • Sethb traveling with Gen to the Philippines to speak at Word Camp Philippines and do community building, trying hard to find some Tagalog localizers

Foundation Updates

  • Dormant Accounts Policy now finalized; if you don’t checkin for N months, your SCM accounts may be disabled and Bugzilla security bug access turned off. (The value of N is still to be determined, by experimentation.) You can, of course, come back and ask for them to be turned back on.
  • Gerv working on an experimental RESTful Bugzilla HTTP API to allow people to more easily innovate with clients and new task-specific UIs. Hope to have something testable in two weeks. API design comments and use cases are most welcome.
  • A new version of the Internet Health Check will be available later today or early tomorrow. It is now even easier to do. Please have a look here and promote this during Mozilla Service Week and on OneWebDay.

Roundtable

Intern Show & Tell

No more Show & Tell/brownbags. We are done for the summer. Please visit interns.mozilla.com to check out what our interns have worked on this summer. Videos will soon be available on the site.

Other Business

8-September-2009

SeaMonkey Meeting Minutes: 2009-09-08

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SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2009-09-08

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> Ratty

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

OPEN

  • Get permission from Google to use their geolocation JSON service [KaiRo]. Contact at Google says: “We don’t have a good estimate for when GLS will be opening up more broadly, but I will be sure to let you know when we take that step. Sorry that I can not be more specific at this time.” – We can only wait right now.
    • KaiRo to email Google again

CLOSED

SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 2

open blockers (1)
blocker requests (0)

  • The open blocker is only shipping it 😉
  • Build are up for testing at 2.0b2-candidates/build1 and on the betatest channel.
    • 16 locales made it, including en-US we have 17 languages.
    • Compared to 2.0b1, nl is new, but cs didn’t make it.
  • Targeted ship date: Friday, September 11 (Firefox 3.0.14/3.5.3 are targeted Sep 9).
    • So far we are on target. It now depends on QA.
  • This is our last beta, so we are feature-frozen for the 2.0 series now! Exceptions will only be granted in rare and really-high-value cases.

SeaMonkey 2.0 Final

open blockers (10)
blocker requests (20)
open wanted (21)
wanted requests (30)

  • We need triaging of blocker and wanted requests, can IanN do that?
    • We can probably put off a number of things, where they sound useful, to 2.1a1 or 2.1.
    • The theme regressions are all just about sorted.
  • Target schedule: Freeze October 6th, and ship mid-to-end October.
    • Thunderbird is expecting RC1 freeze on 3rd November but string freeze on Tuesday 29th September 23:59 PST or so.
    • Freeze on October 6th should allow at least a week of string freeze for final and allow us for some time of candidate testing, whether we push them as public RC releases or not.
    • We should set up plans for string and code freezes, ideally with string freeze on Thursday 1st October before code freeze on Tuesday 6th October, and targeting to spin an RC1 on Wednesday after code freeze.
    • We need to branch soon, slightly before string freezes at least.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 68 new, 37 fixed, 30 triaged.

Major wanted/needed features:

2.0

  • Toolbar customization aftermath [Ratty]
    • bug 481862 We still need small button icons for modern in MailNews. Needs someone who understands both css and svg/graphics.
    • bug 509209 Implement Customizable Toolbars in SeaMonkey Message Compose. Last round (I hope) of nits fixed. Waiting for reviews.
    • Addressbook and HTML Composer toolbars won’t make it in 2.0 so targetting 2.1.
  • bug 460960 Port Thunderbird tabbed interface to MailNews.
    • LANDED for 2.0b2!
  • bug 456757 Modern theme update [Ratty]. mozapps/ has landed.
    • bug 465924 Modern Update: changes in global/. The last remaining bit is notifications.css. Depends on bug 512254 Port bug 429282 (Land new windows icons (20080416)).
  • bug 348720 New icon set for “SeaMonkey Default Theme”.
    • status/progress?
    • No News, really need something moving for 2.0 final!
  • bug 460953 Port jminta’s kill-rdf to SeaMonkey where applicable.
    • status/progress?

We also should take a careful look at the other items on wanted-seamonkey2+ for things like
things like:

  • bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
  • bug 508039 Port |Bug 456439 – add about:rights and a “Know Your Rights” infobar to Firefox| to SeaMonkey.

If there’s anything on that list you think we shouldn’t take for 2.0 any more, please notify KaiRo, so we can push them to 2.1.

2.1

  • bug 410613 OpenSearch. helpwanted.
    • We need to check if OpenSearch can support all our existing functionality, for example the INTEPRETS section in Sherlock search plugins. Mnyromyr will check on that, and on how extensible the Firefox code is.

Roundtable

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

ajschult

Aqualon

asrail

biesi

Callek

IanN

  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed bug 385252 “grippy” mouseover effects inconsistent in Suiterunner – gone into 1.9.1.x and 1.9.3.x but still awaiting approval for 1.9.2.x.
  • Fixed bug 492751 spell checking disabled when indenting text in HTML composition – gone into 1.9.1.x and 1.9.3.x but still awaiting approval for 1.9.2.x.
  • Created patch for bug 390158 Hook up new satchel pref(s) to the preferences window (and clear data?) – waiting for review.
  • Created patch for bug 287806 Add TCP timeout pref – waiting for review.
  • Created patch for bug 385141 SeaMonkey lacks UI for browser.tabs.warnOnClose – waiting for review.
  • Created patch for bug 436942 “Clear Location Bar” section in History pane should be removed – waiting for superreview/review.
  • Working on various classic theme issues with stefanh and NeilAway.
  • Working through approval requests for SM2.0

InvisibleSmiley

Bugs Fixed:

  • bug 483727 View Video not present on video context menu.
  • bug 485701 Add sort markers/arrows to Password Manager and keep sort direction when clearing filter (1.9.2).
  • bug 511989 Port Bug 461252 – First filter in Message Filters should be selected.
  • bug 512146 Make “Delete History for (host|domain) available in History context menus.
  • bug 512169 Port Bug 368177 – Add support for mouse Back and Forward buttons, and the Stop, Search and Bookmarks keys on media keyboards.
  • bug 513490 Open is not marked as the default double click action in Download Manager context menu.
  • bug 514266 Port Bug 479397 – this.windowToFocus.content null in nsSessionStore.js.

Working On:

  • bug 474640 Add Copy Full Path (of resulting local file) action per download.
  • bug 509338 Shortcut Ctrl+K missing.
  • bug 512148 Port Bug 88541 – Show URI in status bar onmouseover of Back/Forward menu items.
  • bug 512507 Port Bug 484329 – Upgrading to 3.0 causes “archives” folder disappears.
  • bug 513456 Double click and Del do not trigger Edit/Delete in Customize Message Views window.
  • bug 515081 Make Ctrl+F shortcut focus search field and Ctrl+Shift+F invoke Search Addresses.

KaiRo

  • bug 498618 Improve identity display on security tab.
  • bug 505832 Ship an add-on blocklist by default.
  • Released SeaMonkey 1.1.18
  • Started the release process for 2.0b2, candidate builds are up for testing
  • Cared about having all flags, etc. for 2.0 and set up tree rules for the final cycle
  • Triaged approval, blocking and wanted requests for 2.0
  • Helped fixing mochitest-plain timeouts
  • As always, my blog has more detailed status about my work.

mcsmurf

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 474709 Subscribing to a feed (triggered by an external application) while no RSS account is present, does nothing.
  • bug 507896 Upgrading Seamonkey changes file type icon for HTML files to mail.
  • bug 512187 1.1.18 candidate fails to connect with SSL/TLS secured sites, PSM fails to initialize.

Working on:

  • bug 471346 Port GetDefaultFeedReader to SeaMonkey shell service.

Misak

  • bug 511635 Port Bug 455070 [Make sessionStorage object conform the WHATWG spec] to SeaMonkey
  • bug 511823 Port Bug 494543 [Can’t add items to Dell.com shopping cart] to SeaMonkey
  • bug 514363 Port Bug 509625 [nsSessionStore.js should deal with browsers rather than tabpanels] to SeaMonkey
  • bug 514388 No quit dialog when multiple windows are open
  • bug 515006 Port Bug 354894 [Session restore doesn’t work if process hasn’t exited (Downloads window open)] to SeaMonkey
  • some other bugs in progress

Mnyromyr

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 460960 (smtabmail) Port Thunderbird tabbed interface to MailNews.
  • bug 500506 Simplify providing an nsIController implementation for tab modes.
  • bug 507451 Accesskey conflict on _R_estart and P_r_eferences (Toolkit 1.9.1).
  • bug 509240 mozapps/preferences/preferences.css not found.
  • bug 514177 [smtabmail] Tab bar not hidden when a single tab remains after closing from tab context menu.

Working on:

  • bug 71105 No new mail notification (biff) in browser until mail/news window has been opened at least once.

MReimer

Neil

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 323806 Fix for bug 175893 breaks tab switching if content is not HTML (followup to use nsIDOMWindowUtils as it can set focus to all types of elements).
  • bug 342296 mlk when drag and dropping a bookmark, as reported by Leak Gauge and Leak Monitor extension (Switch bookmark transaction system from JS to C++ to prevent leaks).
  • bug 509701 Inconsistent show/hide behavior of mailnews location toolbar (Fix fallout from bug 506492).
  • bug 512244 Modern needs to override another -moz-appearance rule in 1.9.1’s xul.css.
  • bug 512678 crash [@ nsPurpleBuffer::Put(nsISupports*)] during address autocomplete.
  • bug 513471 Failures by editing a card with a custom photo.
  • bug 514630 cannot bookmark pages using drag&drop.
  • bug 514959 Bogus global skin claim in suite/themes/classic/jar.mn.
  • bug 514965 Typo in name of image used by session restore for partial window restore.

Working on:

  • bug 514416 Context menu displays incorrectly after resizing address toolbar.

Ratty

  • Bugs Fixed:
    • bug 477710 [Modern] no styles for horizontal scrollboxes.
    • bug 511096 Port FUEL Bug 458688 (test browser_Browser.js still times out occasionally).
    • bug 514671 Port Bug 480826 (Firefox should honour browser.chrome.favicons setting when opening Edit->Preferences->Applications).
  • Working on:
    • bug 465924 Modern Update: changes in global/ (textbox.css and wizard.css fixed).
    • bug 509209 Implement Customizable Toolbars in SeaMonkey Message Compose.
    • bug 512732 Need a chrome://branding/content/icon48.png since mozapps css refers to this.
    • bug 514383 about:certerror should use Larry now that the PageInfo Security tab is.
    • bug 513446 Small icons in MailNews toolbar becomes large when customizing. Fixed except for Mac OSX.
  • Bug triage and bug discussions.
  • AgitProp and PR in http://forums.mozillazine.org/

sgautherie

  • bug 460953 Port jminta’s kill-rdf to SeaMonkey where applicable
    • 1 last patch waits for 2(++) major ports:
    • bug 444913 Port |Bug 413781 – XBLify folder-selection menus| to SeaMonkey
      • (mcsmurf’s…)
    • bug 507601 Port |Bug 414038 – Replace rdf-driven folder pane with a js-driven/non-rdf treeview| to SeaMonkey
      • Next patches will depend on:
      • bug 510793 Actually change folder pane from rdf to js, in SeaMonkey
        • I started to work on this, but it may be ready too late for 2.0final…
        • Also discovered that it depends on some of bug 444913… :-/
  • Fixed (or in-progress) SeaMonkey bugs:
    • bug 456860 Improve msgCompSMIMEOverlay.js and msgReadSMIMEOverlay.js
  • Fixed (MailNews) Core/… (but SM related) bugs:
    • bug 510788 [SeaMonkey 2.0, (Parallels) MacOSX] mochitest-plain: test_bug482461.html fails, permanent orange
  • And working on other areas… like
    • infrastructure to run tests
    • filing bugs for leaks in (TUnit) tests
    • doing a Windows comm-central-trunk SeaMonkey unit test build, reporting to bug 470184 issue tracking; looking forward to an official build when enough new buildbot slaves can be enabled (bug 464325 follow-ups).

Standard8

stefanh

Bugs Fixed:

  • bug 457548 Window titles are incorrect on mac.
  • bug 509564 Document new shortcut Accel+J (open DM).
  • bug 512548 [Mac Classic] Use “pressed” look for toolbarbuttons when their menu is open.
  • bug 513453 Remove bogus style rules for button states inside toolbarpaletteitems.
  • bug 513891 Move filefield rules to global/.
  • bug 514509 Disabled filefield icon should look disabled (Toolkit 1.9.3).

Working on:

  • bug 384340 [Mac Classic] Checkmark instead of alignment-icon in image alignment menulist.
  • bug 432132 Use «textbox type=”number”» in Composer where applicable.
  • bug 514963 Reference to non-existing background-image in pinstripes listbox.css (toolkit).
  • bug 514969 Remove reference to toggle JS on/off in mailNews.

wladow

Any other business?

  • do we have a QA person these days?
    • Our QA isn’t well organized, no lead etc. We badly need someone there. And a test day would be cool
    • Should we be asking the community for a QA lead?
      • We should, KaiRo already tried, but no success so far
    • A test day could help to get the QA community rounded up but someone also needs to organize that.
    • Does MoFo have a handy guide on how to run a test day? is it something we can ask for help from them? IIRC someone from them offered help on mozilla.dev.quality.
    • How soon are we looking for a test day to be done? Is it best to wait until after EuroCamp and see if we can get someone on the QA strand there? We can do it any time, either on candidates or final 2.0b2 builds.
    • Do we have any idea of the prep and resource required? _Tsk_ from Mozilla Messaging can probably help to gather what we need.
  • Who’s going to MozCamp, Prague? KaiRo, stefanh, Mnyromyr, sgautherie, probably IanN.
  • People need to write some blog posts for the SeaMonkey blog to show off what SM2 features. Mnyromyr needs to write a summary on tabmail anyway, so he can make a blog post from that as well.

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2009-09-08

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Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-08

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> Standard8
  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

New

Open

  • Autoconfig process
    • Webapp currently being tested to fix some initial problems, will open up for broader testing soon
    • davida will be working with gozer on moving the webapp into a preview release
    • hopefully getting some review time from a django person
    • bwinton has been coordinating with Greg and students
      • 5 students across Canada
    • Join the ISPDB Google Group to participate in the discussion

Closed

Thunderbird 3 Beta 4

  • approval-thunderbird3 flags have been created.
  • See [Tree_Rules/comm-central] for more information on what is required to land patches (link also on tinderboxes).
  • Freeze Dates:
    • Slushy Code Freeze: Monday 7th Sept 23:59 PDT (yesterday).
    • Full String Freeze: Wed 9th Sept 23:59 PDT (tomorrow).
    • Code Freeze: Friday 11th Sept 23:59 PDT.
    • l10n Complete: Monday 14th Sept 23:59 PDT.
    • Release builds start: Tues 15th Sept.

Thunderbird 3

  • Schedule (proposed, may change nearer b4):
    • Final l10n String Freeze: Tuesday 29th Sept 23:59 PST
    • Approvals/Blockers only: from Tuesday 6th October 23:59 PST
    • Aiming to start RC1 builds on: 3rd Nov.
    • Subsequent RCs as necessary.
  • Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
  • If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.

QA Updates

  • Test day for thunderbird 3.0b4 coming up this week see Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-09-10 for areas we will focus on.
  • Regression testing before release starting next Wednesday.QA is looking for some volunteer work over that week to achieve a complete coverage of the Basic Functional Tests (see point2 in QA Activities related to the release of Thunderbird 3.0b4).
    • At the moment not a single windows user as signed up.
    • I’ll relay this on a few more channel over the week.
    • I’ll email a few testers from previous sessions.
  • Last week was a slowish week
  • first build of faceted search – was very interesting to look at.

Marketing Updates

IT update

  • New, faster Win2k3 builders (try, staging, production)
    • Mothballed the Amazon EC2 Windows build slave (too slow)
  • SUMO test/preview installation today
  • Getting ready for Beta 4

Documentation

  • FUEL [1] STEEL [2] SMILE [3] docs done
    • create API docs
    • update existing pages to adhere to API style guide
    • set up hierarchy / re-org page structure
  • community contributions to how-tos ([4])
  • new error reporting tools page ([5])

Support

  • Top 5 GS Support Topics:
    1. Email Account Config issues e.g. Hotmail (hopefully will be lessened by isp auto config feature in Thunderbird 3)
    2. Cannot Receive Email
    3. Dataloss (compacting folders fixes most problems)
    4. ui questions i.e. how to use Thunderbird
    5. Cannot send email
    6. Thunderbird crashes due to folders being corrupted (compact folders)
  • Support Day: September 3, 2009, 9:30-5p.m. Pacific in #thunderbird and #gsfn
  • Key Support stats from the following graphic:
    • approximately 15-20 topics a day
    • total new topics:94 total replies: 143 – means we are making progress in clearing backlog
    • #replies from non MoMo folks: to be filled in later new users:

Roundtable

Status Updates

sid0
  • Landed bug 466227. Gloda now indexes the headers of non-offline IMAP messages too, and the gloda test suite now includes IMAP tests.
  • Landed bug 508597 as a workaround for file picker crappiness.
    • Submitted a patch to core — bug 514494 to fix the XP file picker
  • Landed bug 505044 (remember selected message).
  • Submitted a patch to bug 500004 to get drag and drop from the search messages window working again.
  • Filed and fixed bug 514735 — include missing files in the Aero section of qute/jar.mn.
  • Working on bug 507593 right now.

davida

last week:

  • driving
  • blockers
  • faceting UI

this week:

  • quick trip to MV
  • driving
  • blockers

dmose
  • blocker coding work
  • code reviews

Standard8
  • Reviews & Driving
  • Reworked the Release check list page to make it clearer and easier to use.
  • bug 510378 Landed parts so that satchel is enabled on trunk (waiting approval for trunk)
  • bug 511242 We now include nsBrowserStatusFilter in the build on trunk. This will pave the way for content tabs to have busy indications (and possibly favicons) in bug 511240
  • bug 499306 Backend for retention-policy UI not initialized, tangled with XUL code
  • bug 508381 Multiple failed login attempts when IMAP password is changed, even after clear of saved password.
  • bug 463155 Add video/audio controls to message context menu, since the regular controls depend on JavaScript.

asuth

bienvenu
  • Reviews and Driving
  • Bullet proof top-crasher in nsMsgSearchSession::GetNextUrl,bug 492429
  • Fix xlist listing of folders not to assume hierarchy delimiter, bug 493455
  • Fix crash in getAvailable by not calling it for matchAll search terms, bug 511131
  • Fixed bug 497059, shutdown imap connections on quit-application-granted notification, or last mail window is closed (except for SM and Mac), and don’t try to run any more imap urls after that. Should help with shutdown hangs.
  • Make os search integration use filtered db enumerator, gets rid of js gc hangs after being idle bug 505309
  • Override cert exception dialog on imap/pop3 urls w/o msg window, bug 493980
  • Fixed SSPI auth issue.

gozer
  • getting ready for release automation for beta 4

clarkbw

last week:

  • driving
  • header ui
  • autoconfig

this week:

  • driving
  • header ui
  • autoconfig

wsmwk

beckley

Penelope

KaiRo

SM 1.1.18 released
SM 2.0b2 out for QA, hope release this week

rkent

rebron

Last week

  • Launch prep: web site content, pr kit

This week

  • Beta 4 work.
  • Continuing launch prep work.
  • PR meeting w/ Euro team.

Tsk
  • Last week:
    • Faceting testing and feedback
    • feedback to mozilla-qa about litmus 2
  • upcoming week
    • Test day
    • Release testing.

andreasn
  • Last week:
    • Vista and gnomestripe account central icons {Bug|512460}
    • Gloda faceting mockups and css
    • Quick account setup work
  • This week:
    • Gloda faceting mockups and css
    • Quick account setup work
    • Vista theme work
    • Tags css fixes (if I can find the bug) 🙂

bwinton

Last week:

This week:

roland

Last week:

  • moved one page (menu) of support content from mozilla.org to mozillamessaging.com
  • more GS backlog reduction
  • some gloda testing on holiday weekend

This week:

  • finish move of support content from mozilla.org to mozillamessaging.com
  • more GS How Tos – try to document as many ways for people to help as possible
  • formal support plan – really get draft up on wiki this week
  • more gloda testing using html email this week
  • evaluation of SUMO as Knowledge base for support.mozillamessaging.com (with gozer’s ongoing help)

nth10sd

Attendees

davida, dmose, standard8, bienvenu, gozer, clarkbw, beckley, KaiRo, rebron, Tsk, andreasn, bwinton, roland

Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2009-09-08

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Platform/2009-09-08

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Notices / Schedule

Firefox 3.0.14 / Firefox 3.5.3

  • on track to ship tomorrow

Firefox 3.0.15 / Firefox 3.5.4

Blocker Report

note: queries have changed to use new status1.9.2 flag (want to know more about our brand new flags?)

Browser / Front End

GFX Update

  • Decode-on-draw (bug 435296) very very close – needed to make some large-ish changes at the last minute to address roc’s review comments.
  • WebGL – canvas3d refresh patch landed. New patch with latest spec tweaks soon.

Layout Update

  • Cocoa printing implemented (mstange)
  • W3C reftest framework (jwatt, fantasai)
  • Unfiled bugs? Plugin tearing, personas
  • 1.9.2 approval requests
  • cpearce experimenting with VMWare record+replay: stability much improved, some serious performance issues, new hardware may help

Content Update

  • Slow week, not much to report (vacations, personal leave, …)
  • HTML5 parser update (hsivonen)

Platform-specific Support Update

  • [josh] Still making steady progress on 64-bit Mac OS X builds, more issues like critical sqlite library conflict coming up.
  • [josh] Will give summary about Java for Mac OS X in Firefox 3.6 and up.
    • Java2 plugin not considered ready, not being used by Safari
    • Firefox 3.6 requires the Java2 plugin, we can hack together a way for it to find it
    • Java2 plugin causes some small regressions, as well
    • other option is restoring OJI, which would be a significant effort
  • [rob] Aero peek widget patch has final reviews. Working on tests.
  • [sid] Progress taskbar patches being updated to new interfaces.
  • [jimm] Jump lists patches progress waiting on some DDE installer issues currently being worked on.
  • [jimm] Completed Win7 image builds, need to get these tested this week.

JS

  • Should move 1.9.2 branch to newer nanojit code. More secure (no Fragmento), better performance, merging getting really tough in the tracer.
  • ES5 update (tracking bug bug 445494):
    • Strict mode: jimb (tracking bug bug 482298), now with 19 sub-bugs — track just the details you care about! Parser-based stuff will likely make the code freeze; runtime aspects will take longer.
    • Meta-object interface: waldo (tracking bug bug 430133)

Startup Performance

Weekly update notes

Key points

  • Mac: Progress on warm startup – 3.6 is 10% faster than 3.5. 3.7 is 20% faster than 3.5. No numbers for mac ccld startup yet.
  • Windows: Flat on warm startup. Cold startup, we have a *regression* in 3.7 that we’re working on identifying.

Need help

  • Windows cold startup oddity: My numbers showed that Firefox 3.5 somehow starts up cold *much* faster than previous or subsequent versions. Any input appreciated.
  • Need input from Mac folks on feasibility of bug 513954
  • Need an XPConnect/component-loader person to take bug 512827

Security

Electrolysis

  • init code 98% done: Moving on to implementing HTTP Channel sub-protocol for simple HTTP requests.
  • Electrolysis+Jetpack plans posted: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Multi-Process_Architecture/Jetpack
  • Shout out to Josh Matthews who has done great work starting to hook up TypeAheadFind… it can highlight all the words now, though highlighting the specific word is still not working, and chrome doesn’t know when a match was found
  • Plugin work ongoing: still trying to set up plugin mochitests for IPC and not-IPC cases
  • Haven’t been tracking the following projects closely (will do better!):
    • windowless plugins (jmuizelaar/karlt)
    • JPW (mrbkap)

Tree Management

  • new Talos suite: Dirty profile MAX coming in next downtime bug 514070, bug 510587
    • dirty profile small/medium already live
  • l10n nightly updates for en-US now timely again bug 511901
    • the workaround is en-US as higher priority, l10n done in smaller chunks
    • still working out “real” fix, doing updates concurrently in the pool

Roundtable

  • introducing Bob Moss
  • 30-50% of Linux Electrolysis builds are failing due to out-of-memory linking libxul… bug 498393. Can we get attention to this?

7-September-2009

Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2009-09-07

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WeeklyUpdates/2009-09-07

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NOTE: No meeting this week due to the US Labor Day Holiday. Feel free to add any status here to share with others.

Friends of the Tree

Development Updates

Firefox

Firefox Front End Work

Namoroka

Team News

Gecko

Branch work: Firefox 3.0.x / Firefox 3.5.x / Thunderbird 2.0.0.x

TB 3

Mobile

IT

Release Engineering

QA

Test Execution

Web Dev Testing

Metrics, Accessibility, Localization, Community

Test Development

Security

Marketing/PR

PR

Mozilla Service Week

Events

Community

Support

Metrics

Evangelism

Labs

Developer Tools

Add-ons

Webdev

L10n

Foundation Updates

Roundtable

Intern Show & Tell

This week we have the following interns presenting:

Other Business

1-September-2009

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2009-09-01

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Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-01

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Agenda

Action Items

New

Open

  • Autoconfig process
    • Webapp currently being tested to fix some initial problems, will open up for broader testing soon
    • davida will be working with gozer on moving the webapp into a preview release
    • hopefully getting some review time from a django person
    • bwinton has been coordinating with Greg and students at U Toronto
      • 5 students across Canada
    • Join the ISPDB Google Group to participate in the discussion

Closed

Thunderbird 3 Beta 4

  • Note: SeaMonkey requests that mailnews/ and suite/ strings are frozen between Thursday 27th August 23:59 PST and Wednesday 2nd September for their 2.0b2 release.
    • Standard8 has checked [has l10n impact] bugs – all appear to be specific TB strings only.
    • If you need to land strings bugs during that period and are unsure what to do, check with Standard8.
  • Freeze Dates:
    • Slushy Code Freeze: Monday 7th Sept 23:59 PDT.
    • Full String Freeze: Wed 9th Sept 23:59 PDT.
    • Code Freeze: Friday 11th Sept 23:59 PDT.
    • l10n Complete: Monday 14th Sept 23:59 PDT.
    • Release builds start: Tues 15th Sept.
  • Release Driver: Standard8
  • Build Engineer: gozer

Thunderbird 3

  • Schedule (proposed, may change nearer b4):
    • Final l10n String Freeze: Tuesday 29th Sept 23:59 PST
    • Approvals/Blockers only: from Tuesday 6th October 23:59 PST
    • Aiming to start RC1 builds on: 3rd Nov.
    • Subsequent RCs as necessary.
  • Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
  • If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.

QA Updates

Want to join the QA effort and don’t know how, drop me an email at ludovic@mozillamessaging.com

Marketing Updates

IT update

  • New OS X builder
    • momo-vm-osx-leopard-05
  • Prioritized builders
    • nightly > comm-1.9.1 > l10n
  • Code Signing
  • mail-test.mozillamessaging.com
  • hg.mozilla.org still has reliability issues this week bug 511258
    • Some spurious bustage as a result
    • The bug is closed, but we are still seeing intermittent issues

Documentation

  • mostly off sick last week
  • good MDC usability discussion with a new extension developer:
    • cruft in search results (ie, Google) – not apparent that MDC is the most reliable doc source
    • MDC navigation issues – no page hierarchy, therefore breadcrumbs aren’t useful and “portal” pages are hard to find unless you navigate from the main page
    • not obvious that MDC is a wiki and that people are encouraged to comtribute
    • following up with Sheppy
  • general MDC problems last week (per Sheppy’s blog post)
  • continuing with tutorial / FUEL / STEEL / SMILE

Support

  • Top 5 GS Support Topics: to be filled in by Roland
  • Support Day: September 3, 2009, 9:30-5p.m. Pacific in #thunderbird and #gsfn (for meta & how to use get satisfaction topics)
  • Key Support stats from the following graphic:
    • will be higher in general, lower this week because we erroneously had link going to mozilla GS instead of MoMoGS for a few days
    • approximately 15 topics a day (I think after switching link to MoMo GS it will be about 20/day, lots of activity last weekend)
    • total new topics:69 total replies: 95 – means we are making progress in clearing backlog
    • #replies from non MoMo folks: approximately 30 (approximately 25 from Tom; hand counted since there’s no way to get it easily)
    • researching better and more metrics e.g. number of new users

Roundtable

Status Updates

sid0

davida

dmose
  • Code reviews
  • Iterated on various message header patches
  • Driving
  • Board meeting related work

Standard8
  • Some Holiday
  • Reviews & Driving
  • LDAP Autoconfig (aka MCD) is now ready for TB 3 (bug 502597)
  • Various Content Tab improvements/fixes bug 513654, bug 513653
  • bug 505705 Window layout position and columns not remembered after each exit (using Vertical view, width, persist).
  • bug 504552 Default tab show only a message and no other panes – provide some error handling for when the quick search menu gets confused.
  • Some trunk bustage fixes (bug 512763

asuth
  • gloda search faceting

bienvenu
  • Reviews and Driving
  • Made autosync date constraints be per-server.
  • Fixed threading with quick search and augment the view unit test to test quick search threading.
  • Fixed various causes of corruption of offline imap store, bug 468595, plus limited unit test.
  • Re-enable imap subscription for servers that support xlist, bug 493455
  • Try to get DB in HasMsgOffline in case someone has cleared the cached db pointer out from under gloda, bug 512414
  • Fix check for new pop3 mail when download on check not set, bug 458625
  • Potential fix for top crash in nsMsgDBView::FindHdr, bug 503854
  • Don’t create duplicate Archives folder if there’s an existing archive folder (i.e., folder with a different case name), bug 484329

Next week
Reviews and b4 blockers.

gozer
  • Build
    • New OS X builder (momo-vm-osx-leopard-05)
    • Prioritized builders
    • Signing automation
    • Release automation
    • Buildbot catchup work
      • buildbot/ updated in production
      • buildbotcustom/ updated in staging
    • l10n-repack duplicate builds bug 513735
  • Infrastructure
    • mail-test many more new accounts for folks bug 511878

clarkbw
  • ui-reviews
  • b4 blockers
  • compact header extension

wsmwk

beckley

Penelope
  • Still edging toward release of Eudora 8 beta 7/Penelope 0.5 alpha 4.
  • Showstoppers appear to be fixed, and final builds are coming with an additional round of testing

KaiRo

rkent

rebron
  • drafted demo script for TB 3
  • in process with reviewer’s guide w/ pr team
  • targeting web site content draft for this Friday for pascalc
  • keeping Jim Cook happy on TB 3 Beta 3

next week

  • meeting with Mozilla Europe/Barbara in person/mtn view for European press/press tour

Tsk
  • On top of bugs
  • Working with Roland to figure out more Support <-> QA.
  • Preparing testing Sessions for b4.

andreasn
  • Last week:
    • Continue Unclutter gnomestripe bug 505721
    • Gloda faceting and search mockups
    • More Vista theme work bug 488060
    • Account preferences sizes bug 416263
    • Gnomestripe {{Bug|505721} and Pinstripe bug 512666 patches.
  • This week:
    • Vista theme work
    • More gnomestripe fixes bug 505721
    • Gloda faceting css
    • Quick account setup css
    • Tags css fixes

bwinton

Last week:

This week:

roland

Last week:

  • moved two pages of support content from mozilla.org to mozillamessaging.com
  • more GS backlog reduction
  • formal support plan – came up with list of items

This week:

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Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2009-09-01

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Platform/2009-09-01

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Notices / Schedule

Firefox 3.0.14 / Firefox 3.5.3

  • going to beta at 1pm today
  • targeting release in 1 week

Firefox 3.0.15 / Firefox 3.5.4

  • code freeze is set at September 22 11:59pm PDT
  • please land your 1.9.1.4 patches (27 bugs need landing) and mark the “.4-fixed” option of the status1.9.1 flag
  • currently 12 blockers for 1.9.1 and 7 blockers for 1.9.0 that need patches (request approval if a patch is ready)

Firefox 3.6a1

  • still at about 16k users

Firefox 3.6b1

  • toolkit string freeze Friday September 4th
  • besides personas and out of date plugin checkin, anyone know of things that need to come in?

Fennec 1.0b4

  • string freeze this Friday
  • looking to hit 15th-18th

Blocker Report

Browser / Front End

  • progress reports every weekend on Planet Firefox, which will get prettier (if you want to be added, please add your Firefox Development related feed tag to this list
  • see our active projects and get involved / propose others
  • published initial draft roadmap for product deliverables through the end of 2010
  • for Namoroka/mozilla-1.9.2:
  • for future/mozilla-central:
    • looking to land improved 404 pages sometime this week on trunk
    • starting standardization process for JS API prototype work (see proposed DOM events) – should we land this in trunk?
    • had some great meetings with Roc and Vlad about how to add animation to our UI
    • faaborg, horlander and limi met about new theme stuff, a discussion of their ideas has broken out
    • faaborg would like to eradicate startup dialogs and is looking for people to help him
    • marking bugs with killthem as a way of indicating UI that needs to be removed because it doesn’t do anything (suppose we could have used useless-ui)

GFX Update

  • Decode-on-draw is getting close to review
  • WebGL update – big rename+arrays patch close to landing

Layout Update

  • pointer-events:none landed (jwatt)
  • identified problem with blocking httpd.js writes causing Tinderbox orange (cpearce)
  • working on compositor regressions (roc); file bugs about plugin tearing on Windows, scrolling slowdown?
  • proceeding with WOFF (jfkthame, jdaggett)
  • Retiring web-tech in favour of hacks.mozilla.org
    • Need hacks posts on pointer-events:none and CSS gradients
  • Ongoing gradient discussion on www-style

Content Update

  • bug 506985 removed the “Disable Java” UI and hidden preference from Firefox/Gecko. This change will be in Firefox 3.6. Java is now treated like any other plugin for the most part, it should be managed from the Addons Manager.
  • History.pushState patches are up for review. (bug 209275 and bug 500328)
  • HTML5 parser splitup patch in the bug, getting ready for moving parts of it off the main thread. bug 499642
  • Found and fixed a JS timeout problem that was slowing us down in some cases.

Platform-specific Support Update

  • Rob Arnold will be handing off new build infrastructure work for RelEng to get Windows 7 SDK up and running
  • Windows 7 tab preview stuff sitting on review, marked blocking
  • Making progress on 64-bit builds for Mac OS X. Complex text input and printing remain as our big blockers.
  • Trunk Mac OS X tinderboxes will be updated to build with gcc-4.2 and the Mac OS X 10.5 SDK. This will mean that trunk builds can no longer run on Mac OS X 10.4. This is unlikely to be reversed but we will be waiting a bit to actually remove code supporting 10.4 from the tree while we verify benefits.
  • [roc] Markus says that Cocoa printing depends on APIs that aren’t in 10.4
  • Win7 sdk work for build progressing.

JS

Startup Performance

Security

Electrolysis

  • Lots of planning happened last week; we’re still writing up the full set of information in useful ways
  • necko design work posted at Necko: Electrolysis design and subprojects
  • some of the work, such as asynchronous redirect APIs, will take place on mozilla-central to reduce the risk and get earlier testing (scheduled for 1.9.3/Firefox 3.7)
  • Planning on running Jetpacks in a separate process as well, which allows them to use a synchronous API to content and chrome and be somewhat isolated from the rest of the system
  • Mac graphics for multi-process plugins designed… it may be 10.6-only, but we’re certainly going to focus on 10.6 support first.

Tree Management

  • nightly updates
    • recent landings (en-US prioritization, triggering l10n nightlies as soon as en-US completes) have improved turnaround time, still not as timely as before l10n updates, especially for Windows
    • works continues in bug 511967

Roundtable

  • switch to using the status1.9.2 flag now that we have it?

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