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18-October-2010

Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2010-10-18

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WeeklyUpdates/2010-10-18

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Video for today’s meeting

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Friends of the Tree

  • Jean-Yves Perrier, Florian Scholz, Sebastian Perez Vasseur, and David Bruant for their excellent work during our first Doc Sprint. See this Hacks post for details on what we got done. Special salute to Paul Rouget for helping us out!
  • Matt Caulder, Pravin Prakash, and Kevin Pelletier for each helping out dozens of Firefox users on Twitter last week as part of the Army of Awesome!

Upcoming Events

This Week

Monday, 18 October

Tuesday, 19 October

Wednesday, 20 October

Thursday, 21 October

Friday, 22 October

Next Week

Product Status Updates

Firefox 4

  • Code freeze for Beta 7 marches on!
  • There are 18 blockers left which we hope to close out in the next couple of days
  • b7 blockers should be landed both on the relbranch and the default branch

Firefox 3.6 and 3.5

  • Firefox 3.6.11 and 3.5.14 will be released tomorrow afternoon PDT
  • Currently accepting nominations and approving patches for 3.6.12 and 3.5.15
  • Schedule for 3.6.12 and 3.5.15 will be released within the week

Mobile Firefox

  • Fennec beta 2 code freeze is tomorrow night. Please land patches and finish reviews ASAP.

Thunderbird

  • Thunderbird 3.1.5 pushed to beta test channel
  • Ongoing account provisioning work
  • Composing messages in trunk nightlies currently unusable; bug 604493 is tracking the bustage.

Drumbeat

  • Beta version of Universal Subtitles just launched
  • Launching a campaign to subtitle 10,000 videos and raise $25K by Jan 1
  • Check it out & make a donation at universalsubtitles.org

Speakers

The limit is 3 minutes per speaker. It’s like a lightning talk, but don’t feel that you have to have slides in order to make a presentation.

Title

Presenter

Topic

Media

More Details
Your Title Here

Your Name Here

What are you going to talk about?

Links to slides or images you want displayed on screen

Link to where audience can find out more information
Module Ownership

Gervase Markham

Making the module owner list easier to understand and easier to update

http://www.gerv.net/temp/module-owners-lightning/


Socorro Update

Laura Thomson

Improving Socorro stability


Castro Network Update

Ravi Pina

A summary of this weekend’s maintenance and the related network issues


Status Updates By Team

Firefox

Platform

Messaging

Mobile

IT

Release Engineering

QA

Test Execution
WebQA
QA Community
Test Dev

Automation & Tools

  • Need Your Help – We need a logo for Profile Manager. Ping Jgriffin or email auto-tools at mozilla dot com to help out
  • Blocker-reports site is live, check it out
  • Mozmill 1.5.1 getting close – did our first full green run in tools staging, should be ready to land in RelEng staging week
  • Breakpad crash and submission landed on Android
  • Refactoring Tp5 for Talos
  • More Information here

Security

Engagement

PR

Events

Creative Team

Community Marketing

Support

Metrics

Evangelism

Labs

Developer Tools

Add-ons

Webdev

L10n

Introducing New Hires

  • Fred Wenzel is in Mountain View today! Welcome back Fred! (he just moved here from Munich, Germany)
  • Fabrice Desré joins the Mobile team. He moved here from France and will be working on various Mobile front-end and platform features – including WebApp support.
  • Dustin Mitchell joins the RelEng team. Dustin is currently based in Chicago, IL, and will be helping to teach buildbot new tricks (he’s currently a buildbot maintainer).

Foundation Updates

Roundtable

13-October-2010

Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2010-10-13

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Mobile/Notes/13-Oct-2010

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Details

  • Wednesdays – 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel

Schedule

  • Beta 1 has shipped
  • Beta 2
    • String freeze: Oct 9
    • Code freeze: Oct 19

Major Topics for This Week

  • Windows and Mac builds crash on startup
  • Mac build fails to paint until you zoom, or interact with content.

Front-end

  • Primarily working on Beta 2 blockers
    • Triaging the blocker list to move out non-critical bugs
  • Also working on other blockers and some performance/optimization bugs
  • Features (see Planning page)
    • Work re-started on scroll indicators
    • Need to re-evaluate the page interactions feature
  • New Core (nee Android) theme is underway
    • Martell is supplying styles and glyphs
    • Vivien landed first patch and we regressed Twinopen by ~180ms
    • We are re-working the theme with less “slow” CSS parts
    • We are breaking up the theme into smaller parts

UX design

Maemo

Qt

Android

  • Standard packaging bug 567873 landed
  • Custom dlopen bug 588607 waiting for review by ted
  • Black flash fix landed bug 599397
  • Places no longer takes 10mb on profile creation

Electrolysis

General Platform

Video

Camera

Plugins

Performance

  • Investigated Sync perf
    • Encrypt/decrypt off-main-thread patch is done (by philiKON) just needs approval..  this helps enormously with responsiveness during esp. first sync (bug 570619)
    • Patch to remove “tmp” sqlite tables helps with errors/warnings that are perf-related during first sync (bug 552053), but might cause other issues (bug 585704)
    • Dug into JS perf tools for profiling issues like this (not quite ready for prime-time, but soon — maybe a week?)
  • Trying to get talos set up locally to validate some perf patches
    • Lots of fail. Looking into today.

Networking

Graphics

Startup

Layout

Content

Release Engineering

  • 4.0b1 – another build, successful update test with beta-cck-test
  • android standard packaging – landed+green; nightly signing busted bug 603822
    • nightly updates are assuming fennec is named fennec.apk; need to figure out how to get around this.
  • tegras running in staging on m-c nightlies. todo:
    • fix nightly signing (above)
    • merge code (deal with conflicts), get review, land
    • point at production tinderbox/graphs
    • still waiting for tegras
  • queued up after android tests: android multilocale, android release packaging/upload fixes
  • MV downtime this Sunday, 1-4

QA

Manual

Automation

  • android – results in releng staging!
    • talos ts, tgfx should be running live today
    • bug 601634 – update to talos for tp4, tsvg and tdhtml (waiting for landing)
  • browser-chrome –
    • bug 600877 – browser chrome fails to get proper focus on maemo, blocking full run (waiting on review: gavin?)

Other

Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2010-10-13

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Firefox/Planning/2010-10-13

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Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays – 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)
REMEMBER

These notes are read by people who weren’t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.

Agenda

  • actions from last week:
  • schedule and progress on upcoming releases
  • review highlights and notices
  • respond to questions and concerns

Action Items

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases

Firefox 4 Beta

  • work on beta 7 continues, hoping to be able to go to builds early next week
  • we’ve re-opened the mozilla-central tree to unblock work on beta 8

Firefox Branches

  • 3.6.10 advertised update went out last week, working well
  • Respun 3.6.11 for a regression yesterday
    • We have builds, QA is testing
    • Plan to go to beta when QA says we can
  • Final release (of both 3.6.11 and 3.5.14) pushed back to Tuesday 2010-10-19

Input 1.9

  • ETA: tomorrow
  • Features: Product differentiation on Themes and Sites, security stuff

Input 2.0

  • ETA: November 11th
  • Features: faceted search, idea submission, time-based happy/sad line graph, copy user agent, share message

Jetpack SDK 0.9

  • froze today, Wednesday, October 13 at 11am PT
  • [DONE]
    • distinguish between high/low-level modules
    • E10S compatible Context Menu and Private Browsing APIs
    • identify dependent modules by relative path
  • [MISSED] (all of which are mostly [DONE] )
    • pass all tests on Firefox 4 nightly builds (most failures [DONE] ; a few [TODO] ; might fix remaining ones during freeze)
    • make high-level modules use EventEmitter event model (7/9 modules [DONE] , tabs and context-menu remain [TODO] )
    • E10S integration PoC (patch ready; landing blocked by test failures)
  • decided to drop explicit support for 3.6
  • [TODO] decide which 4.0 version to target (4.0b6? 4.0b7? trunk tip?)
  • RC1 planned for today (modulo blockers)
  • tentative release Wednesday, October 20

Highlights / Notices

  • User feedback summary: Similar to last week, with the exception of the last point.
Issue

SUMO

Input

Buglink
Youtube & Video rendering

~20 users

144

bug 579597 and related.
Font rendering

~20

226

bug 588880
Middle button click-to-scroll rendering glitch

0

31

bug 588403
Zynga Toolbar not compatible

10

89

Not a bug.
Error at Start-Up (related to Ask Toolbar?? or just extensions)

~160 Hard to know–affects more than just beta users

85

[1]
  • Because we haven’t had a 3.6 support feedback update in a while, top issues (more details? read the support report):
    • Sync breakage
    • 3.6 + Flash related things (due to major update)
    • Link strikethroughs in webmail (investigating)
    • Language change/loss in major update?

Questions and Concerns

  • 2.0 branch predictions and l10n? Proposal: kill the branch plan we had, l10n-drivers do the branch work twice, once towards l10n-central now, and then towards 2.0 once we get there? (Axel)
    • let’s do that
    • Beta 7 is string freeze, independent of branch
    • string freeze on mozilla-central may stay post-branch to reduce the impact of localizers not switching to the 2.0 branch in time

Press & Public Reactions

12-October-2010

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2010-10-12

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Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-10-12

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Current Release Schedules
Thunderbird 3.2

Thunderbird 3.1.5

Thunderbird 3.0.9
To Be Announced

  • Code freeze: Sept 30 @ 23:59 PDT
  • L10n freeze: Oct 3 @ 23:59 PDT
  • Builds start: Oct 4
  • QA with builds start: Oct 5
  • Beta period starts: Oct 6
  • Final release: Oct 14
  • Code freeze: Oct 1 @ 23:59 PDT
  • L10n freeze: Oct 4 @ 23:59 PDT
  • Builds start: Oct 5
  • QA with builds start: Oct 6
  • Beta period starts: Oct 7
  • Final release: Oct 14

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!

Agenda

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friends of the Tree When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozillamessaging.com so that he can send them a shirt!

  • Breaking_Pitt for all the good work he did at testing the special post libxul landing build.

Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project)

  • Funnel Cake 3 to be based on Tb 3.1.5 and launch a week after Tb 3.1.5.
  • ISPDB Conversion: 37 – 46% success rate. Top missing domains: psmtp.com, ocn.ad.jp, cox.net, interia.pl, aon.at, netease.com, one.com, outlook.com, so-net.ne.jp, videotron.ca

Thunderbird Development

Feature Work

Account Provisioner:

  • The add-on is ready to start testing against live servers.
  • We expect them to be available “in the next couple of days”.
  • Add various fields to enable alternate forms of integration.

Pluggable Mail Stores:

  • xpcshell tests all pass with Maildir store, still have a couple mozmill failures, build and play with it
  • Next, need to write code to recreate .msf file from maildir store.

Experiments

  • Up next: GMail Conversation View
  • Updates for Mailing List Manager, Contacts on deck.
  • Sync Add-on further out.
  • On schedule to release an add-on a week for the next month or so

3.2

  • 3.2 currently planned to be released from a comm-1.9.2 branch
  • Waiting for account provisioning discussions to progress before making decision on if/when to cut it.

Trunk Development

Thunderbird Stability & Security Releases

  • Discussing proposed 3.0 EOL on tb-planning. Proposed for happening at time of next security release (end Nov/start Dec).
  • 3.1.5 and 3.0.9 now being tested on beta channel. Possible 3.1.5/mac only respin due to a regression issue.
  • Bug Lists: 3.1, 3.0
Major updates to 3.1
  • No changes since last week.

QA Updates

  • Currently having a test week on nightlies, 54% coverage
  • Working on 3.1.5 and 3.0.9 this week

Marketing Updates

  • PR update: A few articles this week – Kim Komando mention, back up and recovery articles 1, 2, and mention on Army of Awesome program for support
  • ADUS: 6.0MM Total ADUs, under 1MM on Tb 2.0.0.24
  • Continuing discussion on “One Mozilla” web site updates.

Next:

  • Wrap up and summarize participation survey results
  • Tb 3.1.5 and Add-on PR work

Infrastructure Update

  • ISPDB move to MySQL : complete

Build / Release Update

  • 3 Mac64 build slaves should be online by the end of the week.
  • staging clobberer moved to MySQL to improve performance.
  • progress on enabling packaged unit tests
  • continue on reconfiguring our builds using the latest MoCo code (generateCCBranchObjects)
  • Upgraded several Linux build VMs to 3GB RAM as libxul has increased the build memory requirements. One build I checked was over 1.5 hours faster as a result.

Web Update

  • Started work on Account Provisioning middleware.

Documentation

Support

  1. 494 new support topics down 8% (539 last week) – investigated last week and this week’s decrease, not a GS or Canadian Thanksgiving issue, just less folks upgrading
  2. 3.1 Support Issues
  3. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details –

Lightning Updates

  • Trunk builds are mostly working again, mac64 will be our next hurdle.
  • Crashes due to JS threading, working on fixing them
  • Backporting fixes to 1.9.2 will be started soon
  • Much progress on l10n nightlys, local repack builds were successful

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

  • Mac PPC trunk nightly builds may be broken (see bug 600965
    • Looking to follow Firefox down the 32/64 bit Mac nightly build route.
    • May take a couple of weeks to get running.

Attendees

Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2010-10-12

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Platform/2010-10-12

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Notices / Schedule

Firefox 4 Beta 7

  • GC Compartments is on TraceMonkey, coming soon to mozilla-central and b7 relbranch, will require bake time
  • new progress indicator landed yesterday (see bug 602964)
  • update issues for Windows users were resolved today (see bug 602275)

Firefox 3.6.11

  • Rebuilding now for a regression bug 601440 caused by a fix for a TB topcrash
  • Date will be slipping to next Tuesday, a week from today

Firefox 3.5.14

  • No rebuild needed, will ship next Tuesday with 3.6.11

Blocker Report

A handy list of Firefox 4 triage queries is available:

Firefox Development

(from our goals):

Firefox

  • [CARRY OVER] API-Complete Jetpack
    • Joint with Jetpack team
  • [NEW] Stand up basic Firefox with Electrolysis
    • Joint with Platform
    • UI may not be functional, should launch and open a web page.

Developer Tools

  • [NEW] Ensure that Firefox 4 ships with a compatible version of Firebug
  • [NEW] Publish a roadmap for integrated developer tools in Firefox, including console, inspection, and js debugging
  • [NEW] Develop long term plan for Skywriter maintenance/support

Platform

  • As we wrap up the feature freeze with beta 7, we’re creating a dashboard queries to coordinate our efforts for the remainder of the release. At a high level:
    • Review queues are getting clogged, lots of people with 12+ review requests with JST the winner at 44, roc at 21, ted at 22, peterv at 16, etc. Please go through your review queues and knock out all the blocker reviews ASAP.
    • Next we have a ton of blockers without owners. I’ll be sending around queries so it’s easy for people to find them, but component leads shouldn’t wait.
    • Next after freeze, we have a spectacular list of crashes that we should grind through. Sheila Mooney is helping to pull together the next attack on crashes. See details here.
  • Goals: Real list found here. Quick overview:
    • [ON TRACK] Finish Firefox 4 blockers.
    • [ON TRACK] Support Firefox Team to stand up a browser on Electrolysis.

GFX

Layout

  • OTS font sanitizer integrated! (Q4 goal…)
  • Blockers blockers blockers
    • 1 beta8 blocker
    • 39 betaN blockers
    • 141 blockers total
    • 14 requests need triage

JS

Tree Management

  • power outage in colo yesterday bug 603452
  • IT downtime closing 650castro this weekend for network upgrades on Sunday
    • will close mobile test tree
    • will *not* block any desktop build/tests or mobile builds
      • per discussion with stuart, will close tree for this anyway.
  • Moving build machines into Build-VPN, possibly tomorrow? bug 602741

Roundtable

  • What happens if you need to change APIs or strings now? [beltzner]
  • Thank you Clint for adding support for –loop to runtests.py! bug 603517 [jst]
  • Please have your teams complete their security reviews

11-October-2010

Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2010-10-11

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WeeklyUpdates/2010-10-11

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Video for today’s meeting

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Friends of the Tree

Contributors who made the MDN documentation sprint this weekend a great success:

  • Florian Scholz (Elchi3)
  • Jean-Yves Perrier (teoli)
  • Sebastian Perez Vasseur
  • David Bruant

Upcoming Events

This Week

Monday, 11 October

Tuesday, 12 October

Wednesday, 13 October

  • Brownbag: Web Developers & the Open Web Survey Results
    • 1:00 pm PST in Ten Forward and on Air Mozilla
    • Jay Patel & Joan Green will present the findings from our most recent MDN developer survey

Thursday, 14 October

Friday, 15 October

Next Week

Product Status Updates

Firefox 4

  • Code freeze for Beta 7 marches on!
  • There are 14 blockers left which we hope to close out in the next couple of days
  • We created a relbranch for 4.0b7 to unblock mozilla-central work
    • Checkins are metered while dealing with the backlog
    • b7 blockers should be landed both on the relbranch and the default branch

Firefox 3.6 & 3.5

  • Released to beta last week
  • We will be respinning 3.6.11 for bug 601440
    • This puts the Thursday release date at risk. If we need to, we’ll push to to next Tuesday (2010-10-19)

Mobile Firefox

  • Firefox 4 Beta 1 for Android and Maemo shipped
  • Beta 2 code freeze is October 19 (next Tuesday)
  • Firefox Home 1.0.3 is now in the app store

Thunderbird

  • 3.0 end-of-life plan posted to tb-planning
  • 3.1.5 / 3.0.9 watching one issue (bug 601440), otherwise ok for release
  • Contributor survey has generated good feedback, we will be accepting responses through end of day this Sunday, October 18th.

Older Branch Work

Drumbeat

Speakers

The limit is 3 minutes per speaker. It’s like a lightning talk, but don’t feel that you have to have slides in order to make a presentation.

Title

Presenter

Topic

Media

More Details
Your Title Here

Your Name Here

What are you going to talk about?

Links to slides or images you want displayed on screen

Link to where audience can find out more information
Castro Downtime Part Deux: Electric Boogaloo

Ravi Pina

Upcoming downtime for Castro office (Wkend of 10/16)

Army of Awesome

William Reynolds

Help other Firefox users on Twitter & point them in the right direction

Slides (runs best in Fx 4 beta)

Army of Awesome page
Weekly Meeting HTML Slideshow Thingy

Atul Varma

Making Weekly Meeting Information More Ambient and Digestable

The Slideshow (super-fast version)

Github Project Page

Status Updates By Team

Firefox

Platform

Messaging

Mobile

IT

  • Spun off versioncheck.addons.mozilla.org & services.addons.mozilla.org from the original Zeus cluster to a dedicated AMO Zeus cluster
  • Wrapping up Mac Mini move to Santa Clara data center

Release Engineering

QA

QA Org Highlights
  • WebQA
  • Browser Technologies
    • Shipped Fennec2.0/Firefox Mobile 4.0 Beta
  • Desktop Firefox
    • Fx 4 Beta 7: Code freeze delay. Holding pattern for test execution.

Automation & Tools

  • Brasstacks server performance upgraded!
  • Log Parsers for War on Orange delivered to metrics, working on storing data
  • Working toward a 1.5.1 Mozmill release this week to fix issues surrounding running in buildbot environment
  • More information here

Security

Engagement

PR

Participation

  • Participation page is live! Please promote the page + share with people looking to spread Firefox.
  • The Army of Awesome is live as well!
    • Go to the Army of Awesome page to try it out. Sending replies to users’ tweets takes only a few moments and goes a long way toward helping others have a better Web experience.

Creative Team

Support

Metrics

Evangelism

Labs

Developer Tools

Add-ons

Webdev

L10n

Introducing New Hires

  • Kumar McMillan – Add-ons Webdev
  • Richard Newman – services
  • Will Bamberg – Jetpack docs

Foundation Updates

Roundtable

6-October-2010

Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2010-10-06

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Mobile/Notes/06-Oct-2010

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Details

  • Wednesdays – 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel

Schedule

  • Beta 1 is being prepped for release
  • Beta 2
    • String freeze: Oct 8
    • Code freeze: Oct 19

Major Topics for This Week

Front-end

  • Primarily working on Beta 2 blockers
  • Also working on other blockers and some performance/optimization bugs
  • Features (see Planning page)
    • Work re-started on scroll indicators
    • Need to re-evaluate the page interactions feature
  • New Core (nee Android) theme is underway
    • Martell is supplying styles and glyphs
    • Patches will start landing incrementally
  • Can beta 2 string freeze be pushed to next week?

UX design

Maemo

Qt

Android

  • Progress dialogs landed
  • custom dlopen waiting for reviews
  • using packager logic waiting for reivews

Electrolysis

General Platform

Video

Camera

Plugins

Performance

  • Weave/Sync has a few major performance problems being investigated:
    • Startup
    • Panning during sync

Networking

Graphics

  • GL layers (bug 598864)
    • regular web content and canvas working
    • lots of problems: slow, blurry, bugs in transforms (some affect desktop)
    • basic, not cross-process GL code isn’t working on maemo5-gtk (bug 593880) or android (bug 595087), help appreciated

Startup

Layout

Content

Release Engineering

  • android release updates checked in
    • still not successfully tested?
  • android tests
    • bear was able to run 3 test suites green from source checked into hg w/out patches
    • setting up clean test env in MV. need bug 602196 fixed (IT)
    • bmoss helped image 3 tegras in MV; we’ll try to get these up shortly as a small test pool
    • trying to get more tegras bug 596166
  • if we got fennec linux desktop unit tests (x86) running, would anyone look?

QA

Automation

  • android – results in releng staging! congrats BEAR!
    • talos can run with no patches
    • bug 601634 – update to talos for tp4, tsvg and tdhtml
  • browser-chrome – green – linux desktop (1 random timeout)! Thanks Front End Team!
    • bug 600877 – browser chrome fails to get proper focus on maemo, blocking full run
  • [mochitest: green]
    • bug 590248 and bug 587646 account for 60% of known mochitest failures on n900!, no progress on these two bugs?! Still no traction on this – WEEK #7, can we get 10 weeks with no resolution?

Automation tracking

  • Maemo
    • tpan/tzoom work on android, but tzoom is still orange in general bug 600590
  • browser-chrome – need some attention, carryover from last week
    • new tests: bug 489163 [NO PATCH] (should have been bug 489160) [WIP]
    • 1 test left to run green:
      • bug 600528 – browser-sessionstore.js gets a timeout on linux desktop browser-chrome tests
  • [mochitest: green]
    • bug 590248 and bug 587646 account for 60% of known mochitest failures on n900!, no progress on these two bugs?! Still no traction on this – WEEK #6, can we get 6 weeks with nobody looking at these?
    • considering running a small subset of passing tests for android mochitests so we have results that people will use.

Fixed last week:

  • android – results in releng staging! congrats BEAR!
    • a couple patches working through the review queue for talos on android bug 596132 [FIXED]
    • one patch needs landing for mochitest on android bug 598366 [FIXED]
    • SUTAgent has had some fixes in the last week bug 600266 [FIXED]
    • page loader tests works for android, needs review bug 599494 [FIXED]

  • browser-chrome – need some attention, carryover from last week
    • new test files:
    • 3 run green:
      • bug 598957 – browser_preferences_basic panning is busted [FIXED]
      • bug 598962 – Viewport browser-chrome tests failures [FIXED]
      • bug 600529 – browser_mainui.js failure [FIXED]
    • need to land patch bug 597056 to remove firefox tests from mobile tests [FIXED]

Other

Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2010-10-06

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Firefox/Planning/2010-10-06

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Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays – 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)
REMEMBER

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Agenda

  • actions from last week:
  • schedule and progress on upcoming releases
  • review highlights and notices
  • respond to questions and concerns

Action Items

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases

Firefox 3.6.x and 3.5.x

  • Plan to do the advertised 3.0/3.5 → 3.6.10 update later this afternoon
  • 3.6.11 is in beta, throttled to 15% (currently ~10k users)
    • We will be increasing the throttling today (bug 602266)
  • 3.5.14 is in beta, not throttled (currently ~100 users)

Add-on Builder 1.0a6 – AMO Integration

Jetpack SDK 0.9

  • freezes Wednesday, October 13
  • tentative release Wednesday, October 20
  • most major deliverables on track

Input 1.9

  • ETA: mid next week
  • Features: Product differentiation on Themes and Sites, security stuff

Highlights / Notices

  • User feedback summary:
Issue

SUMO

Input

Buglink
Youtube & Video rendering

~20 users

144

bug 579597 and related.
Font rendering

~20

226

bug 588880
Middle button click-to-scroll rendering glitch

0

31

bug 588403
Zynga Toolbar not compatible

10

89

Not a bug.

Questions and Concerns

Press & Public Reactions

5-October-2010

SeaMonkey Meeting Minutes: 2010-10-05

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2010-10-05

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> Ratty

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

OPEN

CLOSED

K.I.V.

  • Get permission from Google to use their geolocation JSON service [KaiRo]. We can still only wait on the Google front right now. Didn’t hear anything about open Geolocation service yet. No easy solution in sight.

SeaMonkey 2.0.9

open blockers (1)
blocker requests (0)
fixed (30)

  • Based on Gecko 1.9.1.14 and in sync with Firefox 3.5.14, target date October 14, see Releases.
  • Builds have been created and are available for testing from FTP and on the beta channel.

SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1

open blockers (0)
blocker requests (2)
targeted (2)
fixed (86)

  • L10n freeze has passed on Friday, code freeze is TODAY.

(Further 2.1 scheduling:)

  • Please help updating the New 2.1 Features page as we go.
  • Plans for 2.1: 6-8 weeks per milestone, b2 (feature freeze) probably in late October; final to be decided later.
  • Unsure how this fits Firefox 4 plans as they are still trying to get to their feature freeze.
  • [KaiRo] The one thing I’m mostly unclear about is what to do about PPC. Apparently the builds we are producing are not really working well any more after the platform downgraded PPC from tier-1 to whatever. The newer Firefox “universal builds” are i386/x86_64 instead of PPC/i386, but we don’t have the 64bit machines needed to build those. We need a newer SDK for 64bit that only runs on Mac OS X 10.6 and all our machines are currently 10.5. Also see:
    • bug 600965 Mac nightly build very very buggy when run on PPC.
    • Could we do something like bug 588412? Probably, though we’ll need to update our AUS server and put the correct hacks in there for SeaMonkey as well. Unfortunately that doesn’t solve that problem of actually shipping PPC/i386 universal builds.
    • [KaiRo] I hope I can shed some light on getting new build machines today, and if we get this going, I hope we find a way out of this by just converting some 10.5 machines to 10.6.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 57 new, 31 fixed, 23 triaged.

  • Fix rate is good, triage continues to be weak. Should do more there.
  • Good further triage targets could come out of looking at the component bug counts, pick yours!

Major wanted/needed features:

2.1

Needing help, Unowned, Stalled
  • bug 460953 kill-rdf port.
  • bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
    • SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.
  • bug 449728 Drag tabs between windows.
  • bug 477845 Build a standalone (Gecko 2.0) Composer. [kaze]
    • kaze is currently job hunting so doesn’t have much time to spend on this.
    • bug 477840 Backport KompoZer to Composer (Depends on bug 477845).
    • kaze has done a ton of work there. We still need to work out some organizational issues. At the moment there is no active interest from MoMo for bringing standalone composer into comm-central. That’s something we (KaiRo and kaze) will have to negotiate with the Thunderbird team (dmose).
  • bug 523274 Complete new default theme icon set.
  • bug 526210 Update the icon set for the SeaMonkey Modern Theme.
    • Some proposed icons got posted, we should take a look how to get that contribution into the product.
    • The rest is unowned so far.
  • bug 507841 Port Bug 422814 – Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure (autoconfig, Quick Account Setup).
  • bug 573538 No options for Safe-Mode.
Active
  • bug 533908 SeaMonkey Mail: tabs not restored [misak]
    • No progress to report.
  • bug 569341 Data Manager [KaiRo]
    • Landed for 2.1 Beta 1!
    • A number of followup bugs are filed for further improvements.
  • bug 410613 OpenSearch [KaiRo]
    • Landed for 2.1 Beta 1!
    • A few followup bugs are filed for further improvements.
  • bug 570004 Popup/”doorhanger” notifications [Neil]
    • Currently ground work is being done to make the main porting effort easier in bug 595810 (Centralise notifications for ease of conversion to doorhangers).
  • bug 467867 [META] Implement Firefox TabBrowser API in Seamonkey [misak]
    • At the moment all the more important or useful APIs have been ported. Somebody needs to look at the DevMo documentation to see what’s left to port and to file more dependent bugs if necessary.
  • bug 566138 Better integration with Windows 7 taskbar
    • bug 581526 Add SeaMonkey support for the Windows 7 jump list [mcsmurf]
    • status/progress?
  • bug 576970 Port Sync UI to SeaMonkey trunk [InvisibleSmiley]
    • Most of the patches are still to be reviewed; the things I requested reviews for are some of the smallest ones. More reviewers and help on addressing the real issues would be good.

We also should take a look at the other items on 2.1-wanted
Also the nominations need triaging.

  • We will need to take a close look at Lightning, which is mainly targeting Thunderbird.
    • Lightning 1.0 beta 1 is for SM2.0 and TB3.0, 1.0 beta 2 is for TB3.1 (Gecko 1.9.2), 1.0 beta 2 will probably be Gecko 2.0-based.

SeaMonkey Developer Meeting

See wiki page: SeaMonkey Developer Meeting

  • Happening on October 23/24, in Vienna.
  • Please give feedback if you are coming, if you stay for hacking days, and when you are arriving/leaving.
  • Proposals for sessions are very much wanted.
  • How many sessions will we do at all and how long should one session be?
    • It might be a good idea to go over a proposed session plan on the last IRC meeting before the dev meeting. There happens to be one scheduled on Tuesday the same week.

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

Aqualon

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 585449 [xpcshell] test_askuser.js fails: “ASSERTION: StoreMDNSentFlag failed: ‘NS_SUCCEEDED(rv)’, file …/mailnews/extensions/mdn/src/nsMsgMdnGenerator.cpp, line 1097”.
  • bug 599653 xpcshell-tests target should run extensions/mdn test.
  • bug 600378 [SeaMonkey] OSX, Perma-Orange in test_GCrace.html.
  • bug 601347 crash [@ nsNetscapeProfileMigratorBase::CopyCookies(int)].

Working on:

Slightly stalled:

  • bug 521159 [SeaMonkey 2.1] Port |bug 514327 Detect outdated plugins and offer upgrade path|, needs more investigations on my side.

asrail

Callek

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 598360 [SeaMonkey] mochitest-5: failing test_notifications.html and test_prompt.html due to doorhangers.
  • bug 598548 Update and rollout upstream TBPL changes. [Mozilla Messaging]
  • bug 599809 mailnews/Makefile points to wrong topsrcdir, using m-c instead of c-c.
  • bug 601207 mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central not being updated properly.

Working on:

  • bug 560772 Make use of mozilla::services for comm-central.
  • bug 571527 Add pref for auto vs. ask-me addon update.
  • bug 597887 mochitests: “Error: useless setTimeout call (missing quotes around argument?)” at “file_bug546995.html : 28”.
  • bug 599693 Allow developers to run mochitest-1 … mochitest-5 by simply specifying those as a make target.
  • bug 600364 [seamonkey] mochi-browser failures due to indexedDB issues: browser_permissionsPromptAllow.js and others.
  • bug 600767 [SeaMonkey] Linux Mochi-1 test_2d.composite.uncovered.image.destination-atop.html failing.

ewong

  • Investigating:

IanN

  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Working on:
    • bug 595685 mochitest-chrome: intermittent “TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | …/test_space_key_pauses_resumes.xul | The download was paused, and then resumed to completion”. [REOPENED]

InvisibleSmiley

  • Working on:

KaiRo

  • Started the process for SeaMonkey 2.0.9, our next regular security update.
  • Updated Linux build machines to new gcc 4.5 version and put it into use (bug 599530).
  • After Mark switched us to libxul (bug 394502), I clobber SeaMonkey boxes (bug 598546) and updated packaging for SeaMonkey (bug 598644).
  • Enabled OOPP for SeaMonkey (bug 545716) and fixed universal builds for this (bug 598916).
  • Fixed file names of universal builds (bug 600223).
  • Cared that RAM on our Linux machines would be increased to be able to link debug libxul again (bug 598914). Raised a bug on follow-up hiccups and missing minis (bug 599302).
  • Addressed review comments and landed Data Manager on SeaMonkey trunk (bug 569341).
  • Updated OpenSearch patch and pushed for getting reviews, go them and landed it (bug 410613).
  • Backported cleanups from that to Firefox (bug 600244).
  • Posted updated WIP patches for search bar (bug 401417) and search suggestions in sidebar (bug 595235).
  • Landed patch for sidebar polish with lwthemes (bug 581382).
  • Fixed broken “Move Bookmarks” dialog (bug 590714).
  • Added more blogs to http://planet.mozilla.de/
  • Tested and blogged about JS speed
  • Updated German L10n for the upcoming beta.
  • More planning for the SeaMonkey Developer Meeting in Vienna.
  • More planning for and start of my visit to California and Mozilla HQ.
  • As usual, my blog has more detailed status about my work, and Mozilla Status Board Posts also tell about my next planned steps.

mcsmurf

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 599605 Full update for nightly builds doesn’t work, removes xul.dll.
  • bug 590575 Deselecting optional components in SeaMonkey installer does not work.

Working on:

  • bug 581526 Add SeaMonkey support for the Windows 7 jump list.

Misak

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 593683 Small fixes in tabbed browser: also treat about:sessionrestore as initial page.

Working on:

  • bug 583317 Update status bar correctly after tab switching and Add calls to listeners for onUpdateCurrentBrowser. Port of bug 327604 and bug 331938.
  • bug 593681 Small fixes to keep sessionstore in sync with FF.
  • Working on porting bug 588482 – Restore Session on-demand after startup
  • Working on porting bug 586068 – Cascade page loads when restoring and it’s followups

Mnyromyr

MReimer

Neil

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 528582 Broken tabbrowser after undo close tab.
  • bug 600229 TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chrome://mochikit/content/browser/suite/common/dataman/tests/browser_dataman_basics.js | Test timed out.

Working on:

  • bug 581307 XPCOMUtils should provide a convenient way to lazily import modules. [has r+]
  • bug 581309 Remove unused properties from XPCOMUtils. [has r+]
  • bug 595570 Bookmark Sidebar no longer shows the Bookmark title when you hover over a link. [needs landing]
  • bug 595810 Centralise notifications for ease of conversion to doorhangers.

Ratty

Bugs fixed:

Working on:

  • bug 586947 Places File Bookmark (Ctrl+D) needs improvement badly.
  • bug 595738 Warning: assignment to undeclared variable index (in msgHdrViewOverlay.js)
  • bug 601435 Move null check into isElementVisible() like Firefox.

Other:

Ricardo

Fixed:

Working on:

  • bug 246405 mail_help.xhtml should be split to several files.
    • Patch to split Reading…, Sending…, Creating HTML mail…, Using attachments and Deleting messages.
    • Patch to split “Using address books”

sgautherie

  • Fixed SeaMonkey (related) bugs:
    • bug 534689 Port |Bug 384179 – crash on startup| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 545172 –enable-tests on all our Builders by default
    • bug 594081 “Check online presence (AOL)” should be removed from address book tools menu
    • bug 595394 Error: formatURL: Couldn’t find value for key: SIDEBAR_VERSION
    • bug 599726 Move abCardViewOverlay.xul from mailnews/ to suite/
  • Fixed MailNews Core bugs:
    • bug 599743 End-of-life Python 2.4 for build support, in c-c
    • bug 601113 Port |Bug 543800 – package chrome style tests into .jar file for local testing| to comm-central
  • Fixed Core bugs:
    • bug 599567 configure.in: fix YASM detection on Win32 and COMPILE_ENVIRONMENT check on all platforms

stefanh

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 596758 Need to rename ‘menu_HelpUpdatesSeparator’ to ‘updateSeparator’.
  • bug 599621 Fix some reminding/missed issues regarding personas and sidebar.

Working on:

Any other business?

  •  ?

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2010-10-05

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-10-05

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Current Release Schedules
Thunderbird 3.2

Thunderbird 3.1.5

Thunderbird 3.0.9
To Be Announced

  • Code freeze: Sept 30 @ 23:59 PDT
  • L10n freeze: Oct 3 @ 23:59 PDT
  • Builds start: Oct 4
  • QA with builds start: Oct 5
  • Beta period starts: Oct 6
  • Final release: Oct 14
  • Code freeze: Oct 1 @ 23:59 PDT
  • L10n freeze: Oct 4 @ 23:59 PDT
  • Builds start: Oct 5
  • QA with builds start: Oct 6
  • Beta period starts: Oct 7
  • Final release: Oct 14

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!

Agenda

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project)

  • Funnel Cake 2: ~82% retention rate after 30+ days in comparison to ~84% retention rate after 30+ days for Funnel Cake 2
  • ISPDB Conversion: 38 – 42% success rate. Top missing domains: psmtp.com, ocn.ad.jp, cox.net, interia.pl, aon.at, telia.com, one.com, tiscali.com, outlook.com

Thunderbird Development

Feature Work

Account Provisioner:

  • Start sending out the Add-On and API to our partners for feedback.
  • Add various fields to enable alternate forms of integration.

Pluggable Mail Stores:

  • Down to four xpcshell test failures with Maildir store, and a couple mozmill failures, build and play with it

Experiments

  • Up next: GMail Conversation View
  • Updates for Mailing List Manager, Contacts on deck.
  • Sync Add-on further out.
  • On schedule to release an add-on a week for the next month or so

3.2

  • 3.2 currently planned to be released from a comm-1.9.2 branch
  • Waiting for account provisioning discussions to progress before making decision on if/when to cut it.

Trunk Development

Thunderbird Stability & Security Releases

  • 3.1.5 and 3.0.9 now being built and pushed to beta channel.
  • Bug Lists: 3.1, 3.0
Major updates to 3.1
  • Pushed out 3.0.8 -> 3.1 again.
  • Advertised about latest version on more 2.x builds.
  • Still getting transition of users across from both 2.0.0.x and 3.0.x, now about 65% of ADUs on TB 3.1.

QA Updates

Marketing Updates

  • PR update: mostly mentions this week Postbox 2 review and here
  • ADUS: 6.2MM Total ADUs, 1.5MM on 2.x was 3MM in July and 2.5MM in August
  • Launched Participation Survey w/ dmose
  • Continuing discussion on “One Mozilla” web site updates.

Next:

  • Exploring use of User Voice w/ Mozilla Engagement Team for marketing feedback

Infrastructure Update

  • New hardware order completed, awaiting delivery
  • 64-bit Minis acquired
  • Try server not merging unittest builds anymore
  • Moving ISPDB to MySQL (staging done)
  • Pending Builds Dashboard:

Build / Release Update

  • working on the Thunderbird 3.1.5 and 3.0.9 releases
  • enabling packaged unit tests
  • began work on reconfiguring our builds using the latest MoCo code (generateCCBranchObjects)

Web Update

Documentation

Support

  1. 539 new support topics down 18% (655 last week) again looking into why it’s down so much!
  2. 3.1 Support Issues
  3. Support Contributor, Matt, of Australia has written some useful material on his blog at http://thunderbirdtweaks.blogspot.com/ – with permission hope to repurpose some material with edits for SuMoMo
  4. welcome to new Get Satisfaction Contributor, Laurent_Laperrousaz !
  5. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details –

Lightning Updates

  • Trunk builds are mostly working again, mac64 will be our next hurdle.
  • Crashes due to JS threading, working on fixing them
  • Backporting fixes to 1.9.2 will be started soon
  • Much progress on l10n nightlys, local repack builds were successful

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

  • Mac PPC trunk nightly builds may be broken (see bug 600965
    • Looking to follow Firefox down the 32/64 bit Mac nightly build route.
    • May take a couple of weeks to get running.

Attendees

Gozer, dmose, bienvenu, standard8, usul, roland, Fallen, rebron, sancus and bwinton

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