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8-December-2010

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2010-12-07

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Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-12-07

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Current Release Schedules
Thunderbird 3.3 Alpha 2

Thunderbird 3.1.7 & 3.0.11
  • TBD
  • Code freeze: 23rd Nov 23:59
  • L10n freeze: 23rd Nov 23:59
  • Builds start: 24th Nov
  • QA with builds start: 29th Nov
  • Beta period starts: 30th Nov
  • Final release: 9th Dec

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> Ludo
  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida or dmose for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project)

  • Funnel cake 3 after 20 days gives us a 92% retention rate. Inline with Funnel cake 1 – 2 retention after same time period.
  • Fine graining numbers coming up (ie os etc e.g. 11% users on Mac OS X and 33% on Windows XP).
  • Germany seems to retain more.
  • Q what numbers can we compare to ?
    • previous Funnels
    • Firefox
    • Rafael to try to find some numbers out.

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Account Provisioner:

  • Contracts almost done.
  • Code done.
  • Should be ready to release by next Tuesday.

Pluggable Mail Stores (bug 402392):

  • two test failings

Experiments

  • Thunderbird Conversations slated for release on 2010/12/07, with blog post on mozilla labs, screencast, updated AMO page, lotta screenshots, twitter announcement (please retweet), and the whole shebang.
    • Expecting a lot of feedback!
    •  :protz currently slightly busy now, will continue bugfixes and improvements, for future alpha releases in sync with Thunderbird 3.3 alpha releases (gallery view, bugfixes, improved quick reply…).
  • Updates for Mailing List Manager, Contacts on deck.
  • Sync Add-on further out.

Trunk (Miramar) Development

  • Active branches.
  • Next Alpha: Early January.
  • Help on fixing blockers would be very useful and appreciated, see this list of higher priority bugs.
  • blocking criteria :
    • Alpha 1 -> Serious usability issues.
    • After -> not real criteria, regression/usability issues as usual.

3.2

  • Decision on if/when we’ll do 3.2 on hold until we progress account provisioning further.

Thunderbird Stability & Security Releases

  • Doing a quick respin (build 3) to fix a regression that affects Theme add-ons.
  • 3.1.7(build2 out on the beta channel) and 3.0.11 to be released on Thursday.
  • 3.0.11 is the last release fro the 3.0.x branch
  • End Of Life (EOL) for 3.0.x.
  • Doing build3 for 3.1.7 – small change – on schedule for Thursday release
  • Bug Lists: 3.1, 3.0
Major updates to 3.1
  • Nothing this week.

QA Updates

  • Had the dupme event last week
    • 2 people showed up at the second session (and one found a duplicate !!)
    • Regular #tb-qa people at the first session
    • Nobody new at the last session
    • Notes and docs that need to be cleaned up are up at Thunderbird:Testing/Workshops#Past_events
    • Had a few more ideas of workshops
      1. How to use bugzilla ?
      2. How to gather stack traces and log files
      3. Getting started with mozmill
  • The change from announced weekly event, 1 day in the week to more loosy 1 event per week didn’t really work out – we will go back to one day event per week – need to communicate that and get it rolling.
  • Should probably advertize extensions a bit more with what to test etc …

Marketing Updates

  • Press Update: going to push on conversion view more today – early articles 1, 2, 3, should increase Miramar pickup
  • Total ADUs: Thunderbird 2.x is 15% of total users, about 6.6MM total Thunderbird ADUs and holding steady with over 85k downloads a day.
  • This week:
    • Add-on Con 2010 this Wednesday and Thursday, will demo all of our Labs add-ons
  • Add-on contest still in our plan, need to find the proper timing.

Infrastructure Update

  • Buildbot 0.8 upgrade this week!
    • Thursday December 9th / 9am – 1pm Pacific
  • New hardware is on site, waiting to plug it in
    • includes lignting stuff
  • SSL for Spreadthunderbird
    • https is usable
    • drupal module installed to have auth done over https.
  • Mozilla Messaging organization now on GitHub

Build / Release Update

Web Update

  • Couple website fixes and ispdb fixes coming up
  • Still blocked on broker/account provisioning stuff for second provider~
  • Looking into bug 600367 this week and more ispdb bugs

Documentation

Support

(If you support Thunderbird or write documentation to help support Thunderbird, please subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list and briefly introduce yourself to the list)

  1. 423 new support topics +17% from last week (363 last week; this week is still a bit down from normal, American Thanksgiving lingering effect?)
  2. 3.1 Support Issues
  3. Congrats to Firefox launching Kitsune KB last week.
    • Plan to switch SuMoMo to Kitsune KB in 1Q or 2Q2011.
    • Wiki page and tracker bug coming soon!
  4. Investigating Web Trends analytics for SuMoMo (not as detailed as Google Analytics on first glance e.g. missing country by country analytics)
  5. about:support addon is now at 0.40 with condensed plain text output – Thunderbird support contributors: please give it a try. Thanks to sid0 for excellent work and code!
  6. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

  • Nothing special this week from the code side, been working on getting chromebug working with partial success.
  • The Website Team successfully migrated all support articles from wiki.mozilla.org to the Mozilla Messaging Support Knowledge Base
  • A few contributors are already localizing these new pages

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

Fallen, dmose, standard8, bwinton, davidB, gozer, jhopkins, roland, ludo, rebron

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Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2010-12-07

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Platform/2010-12-07

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Notices / Schedule

Firefox 4 beta 8

  • Waiting on sync changes
  • Driving blockers to zero, hopefully will converge in the next couple days
  • QA needs at least a week. If we build Thursday we might not be comfortable releasing by the following Thursday

Firefox 3.6.13 and 3.5.16

  • Created build #3 of 3.6.13, released it to beta on Monday
  • Still plan to release on this Thursday, December 9th

Blocker Report

Firefox 4 Beta 

Blocker report for Firefox 4.0.beta8 (as of 2010-12-07 11:07:47.826151-08:00)

Overview
----------------------------------------------

4.0.beta8
      blocking: 193
         fixed: 181
          open:  12

Open Blocker Assignees
----------------------------------------------

   Philipp von Weitershausen [:philikon]:   5 +++++
                         Patrick McManus:   1 +
                  Blake Kaplan (:mrbkap):   1 +
              Michael Morgan [:morgamic]:   1 +
                        Myk Melez [:myk]:   1 +
                      Axel Hecht [:Pike]:   1 +
    Nobody; OK to take it and work on it:   1 +
                      ben turner [:bent]:   1 +

Outstanding Review Requests
----------------------------------------------

                         jst@mozilla.org:   1 +
                     mconnor@mozilla.com:   1 +
                   dtownsend@mozilla.com:   1 +

        Total outstanding flagged review:   3

Firefox Development

(from our goals):

Firefox

  • [ON TRACK] API-Complete Jetpack
    • Joint with Jetpack team
    • Currently working towards feature-complete beta SDK
  • [ON TRACK] Stand up basic Firefox with Electrolysis

Developer Tools

  • [NEW] Ensure that Firefox 4 ships with a compatible version of Firebug
  • [NEW] Publish a roadmap for integrated developer tools in Firefox, including console, inspection, and js debugging
  • [NEW] Develop long term plan for Skywriter maintenance/support

Platform

(there is a team-by-team goals breakdown, as well)

  • [ON TRACK] Finish Firefox 4 blockers.
  • [ON TRACK] Support Firefox Team to stand up a browser on Electrolysis.
  • [ON TRACK] Ship Firefox 4 final with layers composition accelerated using:
    • OpenGL on Mac OS X;
    • Direct3D on Windows.
  • [ON TRACK] Ship Firefox 4 final with content accelerated using Direct2D on Windows Vista/7.
  • [ON TRACK] Ship Firefox 4 final with better Opentype font feature support using Harfbuzz on all tier-1 platforms, and text rendering performance equal to or better than Firefox 3.6.
  • [ON TRACK] Ship Firefox 4 final with full WebGL 1.0 support turned on by default on all platforms that support OpenGL.
  • [DONE] Integrate Opentype santizer library
  • [ON TRACK] Play back video on Fennec without blocking on main content thread
  • [ON TRACK] Integrate codec ARM optimizations
  • [ON TRACK] Ship indexedDB
  • [ON TRACK] Ship HTML5 parser
  • [ON TRACK] Ship HTML5 forms (current set)
  • [ON TRACK] Ship GC compartments work
  • [ON TRACK] Proof of concept implementation of a proxy based DOM binding
  • [ON TRACK] 30% performance improvment on the Cal_* tests in Zimbra
  • Performance 15% improved over Oct 1 Sunspider perfomance
  • Performance 15% improved over Oct 1 v8 performance
  • Continuous ARMv7 Android and Maemo JS Shell regression and performance testing in place
  • [ON TRACK] Drive blocker list to zero.
  • [ON TRACK] Develop implementation plan for OOP content accessibility.
  • [ON TRACK] Fix and ship multi-process plugins on Mac
  • [ON TRACK] Fix and ship asynchronous plugin painting on all plaforms
  • [ON TRACK] Fix and ship content processes on Fennec

GFX

  • 119 betaN, final, and Fennec blockers (-4 w/w)
  • OpenGL composited layers on Fennec update (jrmuizel)
    • Can be turned on (layers.accelerate-all pref) on trunk.
    • Known bug: Changing orientation of device, or resuming fennec, breaks all drawing.

Layout

  • Blocker count slowly dropping, now 103
    • Many bug fixes in hand

Content

  • Major remainders from compartment landing fixed (beta8 blockers). Many thanks to mrbkap and gal.

Tree Management

  • Fallout from our fun last week hunting down new orange caused by zombo.com DNS:
    • Friendly reminder that the RelEng Sheriff can re-trigger tests or even builds of specific changesets for you.
    • Cutting off external network access to test machines. See dev.tree-management thread here
  • IT needs to rearrange test minis in the new colo. Proposed dates are December 17th, December 23rd. This will require a full working day with little or no test coverage. bug 616658
  • Win7 debug unit tests enabled
    • last known perma-orange for xpcshell – bug 610654
    • who can make xpcshell run faster on Win7? [1] It runs pretty slow. The other test suites did not get affected (except reftest a little bit)
      • xpcshell takes quite long on win7 and increases the end-to-end times
      • shall we keep on running xpcshell only on win2k3? shall we proceed with the switch? who can take ownership of making xpcshell faster on Windows 7?
      • we would like to stop running unit tests on win2k3 a couple of days after the last perma-orange on win7 gets fixed but this depends on answering the previous question.

Roundtable

  • Pulling WebSockets for Firefox 4 due to a security problem with proxy upgrade negotiation. (inherent problem with standard, spec in flux)
  • String freeze: [blocking with strings] has 10 bugs, 6 prelanded strings, 4 new strings. I’m losing track, bug 616015 and bug 616014 were filed without/wrong whiteboard and blocking+. (Axel) [blocker noms with strings]
    • file bugs with [strings] in the whiteboard, request blocking, and CC :Pike. Johnath is to triage those.
  • Blocker re-triage next week.
  • Branching for Fennec4.0b3, Firefox4.0b8, and what branches to use so that post beta3/beta8 fixes can land, to be revisited later this week. (discussion in meeting with legneato, stuart, joduinn, catlee).
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7-December-2010

Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2010-12-06

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WeeklyUpdates/2010-12-06

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Video for today’s meeting

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Friends of the Tree

  • Henrik Skupin nominates B.J. Herbison, Aleksej, Tobbi, variable, and auscompgeek, who helped us running a successful Add-ons Manager test day last Friday.

Upcoming Events

This Week

Monday, 6 December

Tuesday, 7 December

Wednesday, 8 December:

Thursday, 9 December: 

  • Add-On Con (Computer History Museum)

Friday, 10 December

Next Week

Product Status Updates

Firefox 4

  • Beta 8 is holding for JPAKE work
  • 16 blockers, will likely be down to ~10 EOD

Firefox 3.6 and 3.5

  • Created 3.6.13 build #3 due to a regression on Friday
  • Released 3.6.13 build #3 to the beta audience this morning
  • Still intend to release 3.6.13 and 3.5.16 on Thursday, December 9th

Mobile Firefox

  • Beta 3 holding for JPAKE work
  • Beta 4 work is underway

Thunderbird

  • 3.1.7 and 3.0.11 beta releases live, final targeted for Wednesday, Dec 9th.

Drumbeat

  • School of Webcraft: January semester call for courses now open
    • Propose your course ideas here

Speakers

The limit is 3 minutes per speaker. It’s like a lightning talk, but don’t feel that you have to have slides in order to make a presentation.

Title

 Presenter

 Topic

 Media

 More Details
MPL B1 Released!

 Luis Villa

 MPL Beta 1.

 http://mpl.mozilla.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/MPL-beta-one.pdf

 http://mpl.mozilla.org/

Status Updates By Team

Firefox

Platform

Messaging

Mobile

IT

Release Engineering

QA

QA Org Highlights
  • Desktop Firefox
    • Still waiting for Beta8 builds to land. Should be this week.
  • Browser Technologies
    • Awaiting Fennec beta 3 to land. This week.
    • Awaiting Firefox 1.1 final to land. This week.
    • Jetpack 1.0b1 release 12/7
  • Web QA
  • QA Services
    • Community
      • Meetup in Munich to introduce Gary Kovacs to the community was a big success. Thanks to Tomcat for arranging this.
      • A successful Add-ons Manager test day was held last Friday.

Automation & Tools

  • First results from Addons performance testing are landing in AMO Db via the changes to Buildbot and Graph Server – huge milestone for that team
  • Nightly Tester Tools Version 3.0 is released!
  • Bughunter crash reproduction system running, sent list of reproduced crashes to developers
  • More information here

Security

Engagement

PR

Events

Creative Team

Community Marketing

Support

Metrics

Evangelism

Labs

Developer Tools

Add-ons

Webdev

L10n

Introducing New Hires

Foundation Updates

Roundtable

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2-December-2010

Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2010-12-01

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Mobile/Notes/01-Dec-2010

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Details

  • Wednesdays – 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel

Schedule

Major Topics for This Week

Front-end

  • Beta 3 stuff
    • Sync/JPAKE
    • IME Regressions
  • Moving ahead to b4 blockers and final blockers
    • Final blocker list will be triaged next week. Anything pushed will be moved to the next release (post 4.0)

UX design

Maemo

Qt

Android

Electrolysis

General Platform

Video

Camera

Plugins

Performance

Networking

Graphics

Startup

Layout

Content

Release Engineering

  • tegras:
    • all ordered tegras in office and tagged
    • waiting on imaging <- no rush here, 14 in production, waiting on A-Team patches to address current issues
  • multi-locale:
    • bear is in the final verify steps -> running a staging release to verify the apk is OK

QA

  • New Bugs over the week: filed
  • Cross-browser Performance tests are done. Check out the results
  • Regression hunting before b3. Also, starting up plans for stability checks around sync and b3 in general via the android feedback mailing list
  • Working on defining a Device Compatibility testplan for beta 3+. Work in progress.
  • Release test wiki for beta 3 is up. Assignments are subject to change, but things that’ll be done are set.
  • Results from nightly Smoketest runs

Other

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Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2010-12-01

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Firefox/Planning/2010-12-01

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Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays – 11:00am PST, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)
REMEMBER

These notes are read by people who weren’t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.

Agenda

  • actions from last week:
  • schedule and progress on upcoming releases
  • review highlights and notices
  • respond to questions and concerns

Action Items

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases

Firefox 4 (Desktop)

Firefox 4 (Mobile)

Firefox 3.6/3.5

  • Released build #2 of 3.6.13 and 3.5.16 today to beta audience, with a fix for bug 614565
  • Still plan to release on December 9th
  • Draft schedule for 3.6.14 and 3.5.17 will come next week

Add-on Builder 1.0a7

  • Shipped Add-on Builder on new AMO infra (yay! – completed AMO goal in the process)
  • New staging and unit test framework now active.
  • 1.0a7 is under development and on track
  • Started initial thinking on which release should qualify as beta, best case looking like 1.0a8 – likely will contain the Skywriter/Cloud9 merge.

Input 2.1

  • Release Date: 12/9
  • Features: Suggestions, Siphon by Device Types (for mobile), Better search on past releases
  • Starting development work on 3.0 and targeting code freeze for end of December (with release in early January).

Jetpack SDK 0.10

  • blockers resolved
  • Add-on SDK 1.0b1 RC1 today
  • Add-on SDK 1.0b1 final Monday, December 6?
  • 1.0b1 is not a feature-complete beta, as we intend to enhance existing APIs and add new APIs in future beta releases
  • but it is a feature-stable beta, which means that we don’t expect to make any breaking changes to the existing APIs in subsequent betas
  • and the bar for making such changes will be very high (i.e. we’ll have to have a very good reason to break any APIs we ship in 1.0b1)

Highlights / Notices

  • Weekly Feedback Report
    • Same issues as last week, but in general, less complaints (probably due to thanksgiving?).
Issue

 SUMO

 Input

 Buglink
Flash has artifacts that overlay chrome (Flash-related)

 6

 110

 bug 590568
Status Bar Removal

300+ (includes many other threads)

542

 bug 574688
Tuenti.com–Pages Don’t load (Compartments?)

 428

bug 601803
[Cannot Reproduce] Vkontakte Page constantly reloads and HTML5 Video isn’t running

 83
Flash-related crashes

 1135
Users who want to disable Panorama

30
Refresh/reload button moved

15

314+216
  • SUMO 2.3 launched so the site looks TOTALLY different. Check it out: http://support.mozilla.com . We’re patching some small issues and adding Firefox 4 documentation today

Questions and Concerns

Press & Public Reactions

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1-December-2010

SeaMonkey Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-30

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SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2010-11-30

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> Ratty

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

OPEN

CLOSED

K.I.V.

  • Get permission from Google to use their geolocation JSON service [KaiRo]. We can still only wait on the Google front right now. Didn’t hear anything about open Geolocation service yet. No easy solution in sight.

SeaMonkey 2.0.11

open blockers (1)
blocker requests (0)
fixed (32)

SeaMonkey 2.0.12

open blockers (0)
blocker requests (0)
fixed (0)

  • Based on Gecko 1.9.1.17, target date TDB, see Releases, in sync with Firefox 3.5.17.

SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 2

open blockers (1)
blocker requests (3)
targeted (1)
fixed (57)

(Further 2.1 scheduling:)

  • Please help updating the New 2.1 Features page as we go.
  • Plans for 2.1: 6-8 weeks per milestone, b2 (feature freeze) probably in early December; final to be decided later.
    • We’ll probably close for the beta2 once SyncUI has landed.
  • Unsure how this fits Firefox 4 plans as they are still trying to get to their feature freeze.
  • Firefox 4 now officially being in early 2011, which gives us a bit more time.
    • As Firefox is now going RC in January, it makes sense to do a short-cycle b3 and try to match it with FF4RC. We can then make make b3 the final feature and string freeze, to be followed by 2.1pre.
  • Beta 1 on PPC is broken.
    • We have stopped PPC builds.
    • We have converted our Mac boxes to 64bit switched Mac trunk to Intel 32/64bit universal builds.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 38 new, 20 fixed, 22 triaged.

  • Fix rate is dropping, probably not too many reviews happening. Can we improve?
  • Good further triage targets could come out of looking at the component bug counts, pick yours!
  • Proposed SeaMonkey Triage Week
    • We have categories at SeaMonkey:Triage_Week#Categories we want to look at, together with the dates that are hopefully ok.
    • We’ve decided to use the existing #seamonkey channel instead of creating a special purpose triage channel as this is a pretty quiet channel and the regulars are already here.
    • InvisibleSmiley will create a wikipage with instructions for people wanting to help who are not familiar with triaging.
      • The General Information page will contain the UNCO/NEW bug searches that are already on the Categories page.
    • InvisibleSmiley suggested to concentrate first on the UNCO bugs and then on the NEW bugs.

Open reviews/flags: 45 review 18 super-review 1 ui-review 4 feedback

Major wanted/needed features:

2.1

Needing help, Unowned, Stalled
  • bug 460953 kill-rdf port.
  • bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
    • SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.
  • bug 449728 Drag tabs between windows.
  • bug 477845 Build a standalone (Gecko 2.0) Composer. [kaze]
    • kaze is currently job hunting so doesn’t have much time to spend on this.
    • bug 477840 Backport KompoZer to Composer (Depends on bug 477845).
    • kaze has done a ton of work there. We still need to work out some organizational issues. At the moment there is no active interest from MoMo for bringing standalone composer into comm-central. That’s something we (KaiRo and kaze) will have to negotiate with the Thunderbird team (dmose).
  • bug 523274 Complete new default theme icon set.
  • bug 526210 Update the icon set for the SeaMonkey Modern Theme.
    • Some proposed icons got posted, we should take a look how to get that contribution into the product.
    • The rest is unowned so far.
  • bug 507841 Port Bug 422814 – Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure (autoconfig, Quick Account Setup).
  • bug 573538 No options for Safe-Mode.
  • bug 521159 [SeaMonkey 2.1] Port |bug 514327 Detect outdated plugins and offer upgrade path|
  • bug 87098 [SeaMonkey] Delete key should delete location bar history list entry
  • bug 588067 Switch SeaMonkey to use omnijar for nightly/release builds
  • bug 401417 Add an option for a search box in SeaMonkey toolbar
Active
  • bug 533908 SeaMonkey Mail: tabs not restored [misak]
    • Has some updates on mail tab restore but depends on some mailtab work from Mnyromyr (needs tab persistence functions for our mailnews tabs).
  • bug 570004 Popup/”doorhanger” notifications [Neil]
    • Implementation moved to bug 595810.
    • waiting for two reviews.
  • bug 566138 Better integration with Windows 7 taskbar
    • No real progress.
  • bug 576970 Port Sync UI to SeaMonkey trunk [InvisibleSmiley]
    • On hiatus since the very encouraging last review.
  • bug 484968 Make SeaMonkey tab bar scrollable to cope with tab overflow [Ratty].
    • Waiting for reviews.

We also should take a look at the other items on 2.1-wanted
Also the nominations need triaging.

  • We will need to take a close look at Lightning, which is mainly targeting Thunderbird.
    • Lightning 1.0 beta 1 is for SM2.0 and TB3.0, 1.0 beta 2 is for TB3.1 (Gecko 1.9.2), 1.0 beta 3 will be Gecko 2.0-based.

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

Aqualon

  • Working on bug 601091 Port FillInHTMLTooltip changes from firefox.

asrail

Callek

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 608048 xpcshell target does not pass-down $(EXTRA_TEST_ARGS).
  • bug 609796 Port |bug 576399 GCC 4.5 -Os bustage workaround| to c-c.
  • bug 613374 [SeaMonkey 2.0, nightlies] new OTS code causes “gfxUserFontSet.cpp:281: undefined reference to `ots::Process(ots::OTSStream*, unsigned char const*, unsigned int, bool)’.
  • bug 613419 Port Breakpad default-changes to comm-central in configure.in.
  • bug 613811 Port PYTHON_VERSION check to c-c configure.in.

To Do:

  • bug 613814 Port |bug 469880. Support a libnotify-based implementation of nsIAlertsService for GTK.| to c-c.
  • bug 614274 (SM2.0.11) Tracking bug for build and release of SeaMonkey 2.0.11.
  • bug 615196 [SeaMonkey 2.0, linux64 (dep) ‘build’] new OTS code causes “/usr/bin/ld: gfxUserFontSet.o: relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against ‘ots::Process(…)’ can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC”.

ewong

  • Fixed:
    • bug 423401 Please use a local variable and copy the string once.
    • bug 555557 Update license blocks to use “Mozilla Foundation” instead of “Mozilla Messaging” (c-c).
    • bug 576026 runtests.py.in is an interpolated file and shouldn’t be. (v2 Re-landed).
    • bug 594744 Update cache preferences from bug 559942.
    • bug 602748 Fix “a the” in comments (for Calendar code).
  • Working on:
    • bug 418896 profileserver.py.in shouldn’t need to be preprocessed.
    • bug 606482 _install_-updates preference wrongly labeled with “_check_ for”.
    • bug 611029 Move abSelectAddressesDialog.xul to /suite/mailnews.
    • bug 612030 follow-up to removal of region.dtd.
    • bug 601562 Update Modern theme from missingPlugin.css to pluginProblem.css.
  • Investigating:
    • bug 11459 – Need option for mailto: to launch external mail app or open a webmail url.
    • bug 573538 – No options for Safe-Mode.

IanN

  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Working on:
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.

InvisibleSmiley

  • Fixed:
    • bug 612265 “Always use Google to subscribe to feeds” setting ignored
    • bug 525973 Option “Only check for new mail after opening Mail & Newsgroups” need documentation
    • bug 614090 Add a Reporting Bugs section to the Community page
    • bug 615101 Add hints for migrating and moving profiles to 2.0 docs Profiles page
  • Working On:

KaiRo

  • Helped Callek in getting SeaMonkey 2.0.11 builds done.
  • Reacted to some slaves being converted to Mac64 (10.6) (bug 611105) and did set them up correctly (bug 558168).
  • Fully switched Mac trunk to Intel 32/64bit universal builds and dropped PPC (bug 599862).
  • Filed a buildbotcustom tweak I needed for removing Leopard opt builds (bug 614937, not needed on buildbot 0.8).
  • Filed and landed update commit fix (bug 614541), filed bug for setting default hg user on machines (bug 614543).
  • Landed a change for Mac IPC prefs (bug 614231).
  • Landed Firefox places ports on SeaMonkey (bug 610736).
  • Updated search code fixes patch for Firefox (bug 600244).
  • Landed Data Manager patch for selecting another entry after deleting (bug 597994).
  • More work on calling Data Manager with specific view (bug 588418).
  • Worked on redirecting UI to open Data Manager instead of separate windows (bug 588419).
  • Worked on Data Manager displaying only domains for a specific data type (bug 613795).
  • Implemented adding permissions in Data Manager (bug 588417).
  • Created patch for switching all callers of data viewers to Data Manager (bug 588419).
  • Made DEL key reset permissions (bug 613086) and ESC key leave forget pane (bug 613087), added icon to Data Manager tab (bug 615014).
  • Implemented correct display of IDN in Data Manager (bug 591324).
  • Issued a few new versions of the Tahoe Data Manager add-on with all that functionality, 1.3 with the full set is currently up for review.
  • Worked on the new Jökulsárlón Download Manager add-on for Firefox 4 and SeaMonkey 2.1, integrated my previous work on progress/properties windows, made download manager look reasonable in a tab, and added some minor functionality.
  • Worked on tab icon (kairobug 341) and DEL key handling (kairobug 342) in Jökulsárlón Download Manager add-on.
  • Fixed gathering Bugzilla data on dev.seamonkey.at by switching to bzAPI.
  • Added Finnish to shipping 2.0.x locales for the 2.0.11 release.
  • New versions of my dictionary add-ons received review and now work on Mozilla-2.0-based apps flawlessly.
  • Landed another German help update from Michael (bug 610979).
  • Discussed SeaMonkey’s and my future.
  • Fixed spam issues with my summary mail of Vienna decisions to Council.
  • Struggled with nouveau graphics driver issues and N810 touch screen issues.
  • As usual, my blog has more detailed status about my work, and Mozilla Status Board Posts also tell about my next planned steps.

mcsmurf

Misak

Working on:

Mnyromyr

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 608202 xpcshell: new test_attachment_size.js fails, “ASSERTION: nothing to write!: ‘dest >= line && dest < src’ … mimeenc.cpp, line 757” in yenc test.

Working on:

Stalled:

  • bug 539738 Tree width of Preferences window has been hardcoded.

MReimer

Working on bug 614587 client.py should allow to clone from HG via HTTPS.

Neil

Fixed:

  • bug 613174 ###!!! ASSERTION: Changing refcount of nsDocument object during Traverse is not permitted!: ‘Error’, file content/base/src/nsDocument.cpp, line 1709.
  • bug 613725 ###!!! ASSERTION: Not a UTF-8 string. This code should only be used for converting from known UTF-8 strings.: ‘Error’, file ../../../dist/include/nsUTF8Utils.h, line 452.
  • bug 613875 Crash [@ nsURIHashKey::HashKey(nsIURI const*)].

Working on:

  • bug 594776 Notifications for installing lwthemes with non-default themes (port bug 592338).
  • bug 595810 Centralise notifications for ease of conversion to doorhangers.
  • bug 605972 Use balloon tips to notify new messages.
  • bug 611503 Constructing an nsTDependentString from an nsTAString makes no sense.

Ratty

Bugs fixed:

  • bug 465303 Add Preference UI for accessibility.blockautorefresh and for Hardware Acceleration.
  • bug 613199 URLBar FixUps [2010-11] Part 1 (implement copy and cut, port bug 607518, and fix bug 480537) checked in.

Working on:

TODO:

  • postData followups including bug 600243 (fix postData handling in urlbarBinding’s overrideValue).
  • Investigate implementing bug 611162 browser.urlbar.doubleClickSelectsAll from the firefox urlbar binding.

Other:

Ricardo

  • Help bug 232063 (Shortcuts for Text Viewing, Navigation, and Selection) fixed.
  • Have not taken another help bug because I don’t have spare time these days, sorry.

sgautherie

  • Fixed SeaMonkey (related) bugs:
    • bug 537219 Port |Bug 442730 – composition security options for encrypt should only be one menu item (with checkbox) like signing| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 607583 Move updateOptionItems() call from xul to js
    • bug 612337 [SeaMonkey] Package ConsoleAPI.js
    • bug 613414 [SeaMonkey] mochitest-plain-3: new test fails = “test_consoleAPI.html | console exists”
    • bug 613901 Port |Bug 609207 – wyciwyg moved to necko_wyciwyg.xpt, but Firefox isn’t shipping it| to SeaMonkey
  • Fixed Core bugs:
    • bug 597811 [SeaMonkey] mochitests-1/5: “WARNING: NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS(rv, rv) … nsHTMLInputElement.cpp, line 436” + “test_bug592802.html | Test timed out.”, caused by “test_bug548193.html / nsContentPrefService.js”

stefanh

  • Did some reviews
  • Fixed:
    • bug 595978 Update mac readme (no ppc support).
    • bug 611857 [Mac Default] Adopt css for click-through support
  • Working on:
    • bug 613358 Polish the mailNews search dialog on Mac and also fix some obsolete styles (all OS).
    • bug 614382 Polish the Edit filter dialog on Mac and also fix some obsolete styles (all OS).
  • Waiting on reviews:
    • bug 611759 [Pinstripe] Remove ‘-moz-appearance: treeheadersortarrow’ from listbox.css/tree.css

Any other business?

  • [Neil] Do we have a list of platform-specific reviewers?
    • Not at the moment. We are still waiting on the rework proposal from Callek for the project areas list, it’s due in today.
    • [KaiRo] If in doubt, I’d be happy if we went with code review alone and trusting the coder that it works as it should for such cases. Along with a call for testing once it landed (in m.d.a.seamonkey and m.d.quality).
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Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-30

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2010-11-30

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Current Release Schedules
Thunderbird 3.3 Alpha 2

Thunderbird 3.1.7 & 3.0.11
  • TBD
  • Code freeze: 23rd Nov 23:59
  • L10n freeze: 23rd Nov 23:59
  • Builds start: 24th Nov
  • QA with builds start: 29th Nov
  • Beta period starts: 30th Nov
  • Final release: 9th Dec

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> Standard8
  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida or dmose for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project)

  • Still crunching logs for Funnel Cake 3.
  • ISPDB: 47% success rate, Top missing domains: ocn.ad.jp, psmtp.com, interia.pl, aon.at, cox.net, telenet.be, one.com, charter.net, freemail.hu, netease.com

Thunderbird Development

Feature Work

Account Provisioner:

  • Dave Sifry is working on contracts/term sheets.
  • Sancus is working on integrating with another provider.
  • Andreas is working on a new end page.
  • Other than that, nothing new.

Pluggable Mail Stores (bug 402392):

  • Merged with trunk, fixed some test failures in Berkeley store, 3 left to fix
    • Test to fix not to hard up to now, but busy with other point
    • should be dogfoodable by 3.3

Experiments

Trunk (Miramar) Development

  • Active branches.
  • Aiming for frequent alphas, specifically to pick up fixes / features.
  • Help on fixing blockers would be very useful and appreciated, see this list of higher priority bugs.
  • blocking criteria :
    • Alpha 1 -> Serious usability issues.
    • After -> not real criteria, regression/usability issues as usual.

3.2

  • Decision on if/when we’ll do 3.2 on hold until we progress account provisioning further.

Thunderbird Stability & Security Releases

  • 3.1.7 and 3.0.11 out on beta channel
  • Bug Lists: 3.1, 3.0
Major updates to 3.1

QA Updates

Marketing Updates

  • Press Update: Miramar Alpha 1 articles 1, 2, 3
  • Web site task force notes 11-18-2010, reviewing bugs for Mozilla.com new design update as they pertain to us
  • Got mentioned on german tv “Abenteuer Leben”

Next:

  • Driving more users to Miramar Alpha 1
  • Plan out “Get Add-ons content” for Add-ons Manager in Miramar.

Infrastructure Update

  • New Hardware : arrives today/tomorrow
  • Expect new builders to be spinning up by the end of the week

Build / Release Update

  • John back from vacation
  • Parallel build infrastructure: worked
  • Thunderbird 3.0.11/3.1.7
  • Nightly updates on builders
  • Ability to run packaged tests on release builds (comm-central)

Web Update

  • Mostly blocked on Broker(account provisioning middleware) waiting for provider services
  • Will spend time on ispdb this week and other bugs that have been in queue for a while

Documentation

  • Various support articles / bugs fixes

Support

(If you support Thunderbird or write documentation to help support Thunderbird, please subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list and briefly introduce yourself to the list)

  1. 363 new support topics -19% from last week (449 last week; this week is again a bit down from normal, American pre-Thanksgiving lingering effect?)
  2. 3.1 Support Issues
  3. finally put the Get Satisfaction Metrics code into git:(momogs repo, emailreport.rb – the script that I run daily to gather daily Get Satisfaction Metrics) – HELP WANTED – love to have a real programmer fix and enhance this code
  4. Welcome to new GS support contributor, Chris Richard!
  5. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

  • Still having a lot of trouble on trunk, most notably venkman no longer works
  • Backporting to 1.9.2 completed, will blog today or tomorrow.
  • Didn’t hear much from Oracle people since the sun -> Oracle move , and neither from inverse.

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

davida, dmose, bwinton, sancus, jhopkins, jenzed, roland, gozer, Ludo,

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Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-30

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Platform/2010-11-30

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Notices / Schedule

Firefox 3.6.13 and 3.5.16

  • Created build #2 today, with a fix for bug 614565
  • Still plan to release on December 9th

Blocker Report

Firefox 4 Beta 

Blocker report for Firefox 4.0.beta8 (as of 2010-11-30 11:03:00.963342-08:00)

Overview
----------------------------------------------

4.0.beta8
      blocking: 188
         fixed: 164
          open:  24

Open Blocker Assignees
----------------------------------------------

   Philipp von Weitershausen [:philikon]:   6 ++++++
                  Blake Kaplan (:mrbkap):   2 ++
              Michael Morgan [:morgamic]:   2 ++
                        Andreas Gal :gal:   2 ++
    Nobody; OK to take it and work on it:   2 ++
          Josh Aas (Mozilla Corporation):   1 +
              english-us@evangelism.bugs:   1 +
                      Axel Hecht [:Pike]:   1 +
                         Jason Orendorff:   1 +
                  Chris Leary [:cdleary]:   1 +
                  Ehsan Akhgari [:ehsan]:   1 +
                        Myk Melez [:myk]:   1 +
                   Jason Duell (:jduell):   1 +
                         general@js.bugs:   1 +
                 Wesley Johnston (:wesj):   1 +

Firefox Development

(from our goals):

Firefox

  • [ON TRACK] API-Complete Jetpack
    • Joint with Jetpack team
    • Currently working towards feature-complete beta SDK
  • [ON TRACK] Stand up basic Firefox with Electrolysis

Developer Tools

  • [NEW] Ensure that Firefox 4 ships with a compatible version of Firebug
  • [NEW] Publish a roadmap for integrated developer tools in Firefox, including console, inspection, and js debugging
  • [NEW] Develop long term plan for Skywriter maintenance/support

Platform

(there is a team-by-team goals breakdown, as well)

  • [DONE] Javascript performance near or even with Chrome 5 on their benchmarks (within 20% on SS, 30% on V8), with substantial wins on our benchmarks. (Windows, in-browser.)
  • [DONE] Hardware acceleration of video and other HTML and SVG content, as well as user interface, on by default for compatible hardware on all Tier-1 desktop and mobile platforms.
  • [DONE] Fully support the WebGL 1.0 spec, with support turned on by default in a Firefox 4 beta on platforms that support OpenGL or OpenGL ES.
  • [MISSED] security: zero reproducible high/crit > 30 days
  • [DONE] Support multi-process Fennec.
  • [DONE] Support Jetpacks running in separate processes and never blocking the Fennec UI. NOTE: jetpack team hasn’t actually integrated this code yet, but it works in small test environments.

GFX

  • 123 betaN, final, and Fennec blockers
  • OpenGL composited layers on Fennec update (jrmuizel)
    • Sort of usable now, patches need to be finished before they can land though.
    • Performance work still to be done.

Layout

  • Blocker count slowly dropping, now 108
    • Many bug fixes in hand
  • Lots of editor/contenteditable fixes have landed (ehsan)
    • Google Docs features that were disabled for Firefox (spreadsheet formula syntax highlighting) will be enabled for Firefox 4

Tree Management

Roundtable

  • Infallible malloc (added to agenda by Jesse)
    • The problem, which has only recently come to light:
      • We haven’t actually made malloc infallible yet. We already made new infallible for Firefox 4, but many data structures (including arrays and strings) can still misbehave on OOM because malloc can still return NULL.
      • Many exploitable OOM bugs are in system libraries rather than Firefox itself. Replacing malloc may be the only way for us to work around all of these bugs.
      • Security researchers have been reporting many OOM bugs lately.
        • We often can’t reproduce what they see because we OOM slightly earlier or later.
        • This is a recipe for embarrassment when “old” testcases find “new” bugs, as Alex Miller discovered.
    • The plan of record:
    • Proposal:
      • Make malloc infallible
      • Fix too-large-allocation crashes (distinct from OOM), which will be obvious in crash-stats.
        • Will require exposing a fallible malloc somehow
        • May require adding methods or variants to string classes, for example.
    • We must run GC and purge caches before giving up or we will have false positive OOMs when tons of memory is not actually live.
      • Need to monitor OS memory pressure and avoid getting close to these false OOMs.
      • This was part of E10s, is it ready for Firefox 4?
    • Damon will organize a smaller meeting later today to discuss this. Email him if you want to be part of that meeting.
  • Crash Update
    • Crashes on trunk down considerably – ~5/100 active users.
    • In pretty good shape for Beta8
    • Any stability risks in remaining beta8 blockers we should be aware of?
  • Don’t forget to file bugs when you see problems in nightlies.
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