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17-October-2011

Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-17

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WeeklyUpdates/2011-10-17


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Friends of the Tree

Upcoming Events

This Week

Monday, 17 October

  • NASA Cantina, Mountain View, 10 Forward, 5pm to 8pm – We host a cantina for the participants of the NASA Collaboration Summit from NASA and their partners. You are welcome to join us for some great conversation and food.

Tuesday, 18 October

Wednesday, 19 October

  • Dutch Entrepreneurs Silicon Valley Tour, Mountain View, 10 Forward, 9:30am to 11am – We host a group of dutch entrepreneurs on their tour through the Valley. Feel free to swing by and say hi.

Thursday, 20 October

Friday, 21 October

Next Week

Product Status Updates

Firefox

  • Mobile team having a work week in Toronto this week
  • No other updates this week since it’s eating much of fx-team’s brains

Thunderbird

Nothing new this week.

Older Branch Work

Drumbeat

  • Mozilla Festival in London Nov 4 – 6: 400+ people now registered
  • Want to fill the remaining space with as many coders and designers as possible
  • Especially looking for:
  • Interested? Wanna come? get in touch through festival [at] mozilla [dot] org
  • Marcia and Pierros are running a “Contribute to Mozilla” area at the Festival. Please get in touch with them if you are interested in helping staff the pod areas and answer questions from potential contributors. Thanks!

Speakers

The limit is 3 minutes per speaker. It’s like a lightning talk, but don’t feel that you have to have slides in order to make a presentation.

http://blog.webfwd.org/post/11319845945/webfwd-goes-global-welcome-to-our-3-new-fellows-1

Presenter

Topic

Media

More Details
Diane Bisgeier

WebFWD adds 3 new Fellows

Blog post at http://blog.webfwd.org/post/11319845945/webfwd-goes-global-welcome-to-our-3-new-fellows-1
Michael Coates

Engaging Security for your Website – The Security Review Process

slides

Web App Security Review Request Form
David Boswell

Share your story about how you got involved with Mozilla

Example: How I got involved with Mozilla (and why that wouldn’t work today)

Add your link to the Stories wiki page or post to Mozillians forum

Status Updates By Team

Firefox

Platform

Messaging

Mobile

IT

Release Engineering

QA

Mobile QA
  • Most folks attending the mobile workweek in Toronto.
WebQA
QA Community
Automation Services
  • Case Conductor Beta will be released to uTest on Oct 19th, 2011

Automation & Tools

  • Lots of on-going work, many of us in Toronto for mobile work week.
  • See here for notes

Security

Security Reviews Scheduled for this week

Date / Time

Item
Mon Oct 17 / 10:00 PST

SPDY & bug 528288
Wed Oct 19 / 13:00 PST

bug 675822 First sync desktop status page with upload progress bar
Fri Oct 22 / 10:00 AM PST

Safe Browsing Backend

Calendar and Meeting details

General Meeting Details
* IRC Channel: #security
* Etherpad: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/secreview
* Dial-in Info:
** In office or soft phone: extension 92
** US/INTL: 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 then extension 92
** Toronto: 416-848-3114 then extension 92
** Toll-free: 800-707-2533 then password 369
** Conference num 624

Engagement

PR

Events

Creative Team

Community Marketing

Support

Metrics

Evangelism

Labs

Developer Tools

Add-ons

Webdev

L10n

WebFWD

Last week WebFWD announced 3 new Fellows to our Portfolio: MeeMoo, Synbiota and Verese. Details at http://blog.webfwd.org/post/11319845945/webfwd-goes-global-welcome-to-our-3-new-fellows-1

Introducing New Hires

  • Patryk Adamczyk: joining the Mobile UX team, managed by Madhava Enros, located in the Toronto office.
  • Olivier Yiptong: joining the Mobile Dev team, managed by Stuart Parmenter, located in the Toronto office.
  • Harald Kirschner: joining the Innovation team, managed by Todd Simpson, located in the Mountain View Office.
  • Mark Mayo: joining the Innovation team, managed by Todd Simpson, located on the Vancouver office.
  • Christina Choi: joining the Stats & Metrics team, managed by Gilbert Fitzgerald, located in the San Francisco office.
  • Adrian Gaudebert: joining the Web Tools team, managed by Laura Thomson, located in Lyon, France.
  • Schalk Neethling: joining the Web Tools team, managed by Laura Thomson, located in Pretoria, South Africa.
  • Stephen Lewchuk: coop student with Metrics team managed by Gilbert FitzGerald working out of the SF office
  • Tantek Çelik: joining the Products team, managed by Chris Blizzard, located in the San Francisco office.
  • Gary Kwong: joining the Security Research and Testing team managed by Brandon Sterne, located in the Mountain View office.

Foundation Updates

Roundtable

12-October-2011

Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-12

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Mobile/Notes/12-Oct-2011


Details

  • Wednesdays – 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC
  • Dial-in: conference# 95346
    • US/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 95346
    • US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95346
    • Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95346
  • irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel
  • vidyo: WarpCore

Schedule

Next merge date is 2011-11-08

Major Topics for This Week

  • Native Android UI is our primary focus
    • Mozilla has decided to start working 100% on the native Android UI version of Firefox Mobile
    • See https://wiki.mozilla.org/Fennec/NativeUI
    • Firefox Mobile 9 (Aurora) will likely be the last XUL-based UI
    • Many details will be fleshed out at the mobile summit next week.

Application

Front-end

  • Firefox Mobile 9 (Aurora) cleanup and wind-down
    • Camera patches for stability
    • Back out locale picker?
    • A few performance and regression fixes will likely land
  • Firefox Mobile 10 (NativeUI) is starting up

UX design

Platform Support

Android

  • waiting on reviews for Flash patches

Performance

Testing

QA

  • Native UI Questions
    • What actions should QA take on present UI/XUL related bugs filed on Nightly (10.0a1)?
      • For 10.0, QA continues to focus on david baron’s readability, low level crash fixes, flash patches. (plans may change post summit)
    • Parallel transition for tablet UI?
    • Minimum viable feature set
  • Beta Status

Test Suites

Test Automation

Release Engineering

android_tier_1

  • triaging through the android_tier_1 list at the 10:30PDT testing meeting
  • (fixed) bug 692346 – explicitly require a /mnt/sdcard-based tegra devRoot
  • (fixed) bug 690860 – android debug nightlies — now keeping tinderbox builds 30 days; is that enough?
  • (fixed) bug 664857 – try syntax not working for android unittests
  • bug 665891 – add 200 new tegras to pool: 120 tegras arrived. Working with ops to get those imaged + live
    • this required switching to the 2011 image rather than 2010
  • bug 689937 – 7 new foopies needed to run those tegras

SUMO

  • For v6, we had 5715 reviews on the android market and if we calculate only those reviews, version 6 gets an average of 3.8 stars.
  • For v7, we have 2391 reviews so far on the android market and if we calculate only those reviews, version 7 gets an average of 3.9 stars.
  • Trends in 5-star reviews: performance improvements; 14% still request flash support

As a simple validation, we also see on Input that v5 praise was 73%, for v6.02 praise was 74%, and for v7.01 praise is 76%. So we see similar incremental improvement in the numbers.

Other

Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-12

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Firefox/Planning/2011-10-12


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Planning Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays – 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room
  • irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)

Video/Teleconference Details – NEW

  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US)
  • Vidyo Room: Warp Core
  • Vidyo Guest URL
REMEMBER

These notes are read by people who weren’t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.

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Actions from Last Week

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases

Firefox Desktop

Release (3.6, 7)

  • Firefox 3.6 → 7.0.1 update has been postponed, still trying to figure out when we are rescheduling. Christian will message at least 1 week before it happens, currently checking with various stakeholders

Beta (8)

Aurora (9)

Nightly (10)

Firefox Mobile

Native Android UI is our primary focus

Customer pain points and plans to fix

  • Performance: 5% increase in 5-star reviews on android market from v6 to v7 with users noticing the performance improvements. NativeUI is plan to fix most common startup performance issue.
  • Flash player: 14% of all reviews for FF7 on the android market request flash player; click-to-play work is in-progress to fix.
  • Stability: Users report high memory/resource usage in below-average reviews on android market. NativeUI is plan to fix.

Release (7)

Beta (8)

Aurora (9)

  • Might be the last XUL based UI release of Firefox Mobile
    • Camera patches for stability
    • Back out locale picker. This was mainly in Fx9 for testing so we could add it to Fx10 for realz.
    • A few performance and regression fixes will likely land

Nightly (10)

  • Work on the native UI is starting up
    • Full team is working on it
    • Reviewing architecture
    • Planning tasks
  • Some patches still landing on XUL nightly so we can get early testing
    • Flash
    • Platform crash fixes

Firefox Sync

  • Firefox 7:
    • A postmortem will be held this week on Sync issues. Will report on that next week.
  • Firefox 10+:

Add-on Builder

  • SDK-based add-ons that were repacked are able to be downloaded and auto-updated again!
  • Release today will push: search improvements, repacker changes, foundations for Jinja/Shipyard MVC overhaul
  • New repacker process has been solidified, testing will begin this week for SDK 1.2 repacks of Builder-originated add-ons.

Add-on SDK

Release (1.1 -> Firefox 7)

  • No major complaints with the new repack proposal – likely to move ahead with that for the 1.2 release.

Stabilization (1.2 -> Firefox 7, 8)

  • Add-on SDK 1.2RC1 was spun up yesterday
  • First draft of release notes can be found here
  • Unless there are any issues, the RC build is the one we’ll release next Tuesday, October 18, as Add-on SDK 1.2.

Development (1.3 -> Firefox 8, 9)

  • Will Merge the Development branch to Stabilization when 1.2 releases
  • Our end-of-year goals are likely to be altered slightly with new mobile UI shift

Feedback Summary

Desktop

7.0.1

  • More freezes/hangs/not responding: [1] and dozens more (probably half of our top issues are some flavor of this).
  • Users got hijacked with something (or a common page is starting to use) “text enhance”.
  • Close button binding closing browser rather than tab bug 685225. Not sure why this is getting more attention.
  • Exc in ev handl: Error: Bad NPObject as private data! errors are also attributable to VNC plugin.

8.0

  • Higher amount of crashes and hangs after updating Flash (10/3) – [2]
  • Back/Forward buttons are not working for a small amount of users [3]
  • Can’t drag tabs to bookmarks bug 680677
    • Some complaints that you can’t reorder tabs at all.
  • Some third party add-ons aren’t being disabled by default in 8.0: bug 693698. Skype: bug 693459

Mobile

see Mobile section above^^

UX & User Research

Usability sessions still happening as planned in Toronto during mobile week.

Presentation on Firefox Design Principles this Thursday at 2pm PST in Mountain View.

Market Insights

Desktop

Updates taking a break during scope revamp; to be coming back soon. Feedback on topics covered the past weeks welcome.

Mobile

Summary below, full update here and in your inbox.

  • The announcement of ICS and Nexus Prime was postponed, but plenty of details leaked: the new device will have top specs, LTE and NFC support, 3 hard-coded buttons
  • The Android Market suffered an outage for users in China due to technical issues from Google, now fixed
  • Opera Mini 6.5 and Opera Mobile 11.5 were released, with focus on data usage and saving
  • Amazon Fire pre-ordered 95 000 times in first day after launch, Silk browser vulnerable to privacy concerns
  • LTE emerging fast all over the world
  • Singapore and Japan lead browser traffic from connected devices (non-computers), UK and US not far behind

Question: what is the trend of unlimited mobile data plans? Answer: the trend is that unlimited mobile data plans are disappearing in the countries that have most of their users on plans, like the US, but most of the world is on prepaid subscriptions, which are by definition tiered.

Marketing, Press & Public Reaction

Questions, Comments, FYI

  • When do we anticipate we’ll do the Firefox 3.6.x → 7.0 upgrade message?
    • Christian said he is figuring it out, will have at least a week notice
  • (bsmedberg) I posted to dev.planning about allowing users to upgrade more slowly (LTS for consumers) but didn’t get any response. Does that mean I should assume it was rejected, or just not yet considered?

Actions this week

  • Jen to come back with postmortem summary for sync issues in FF7
    • Will do this next week since postmortem is this week.

11-October-2011

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-11

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2011-10-11


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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> Ludovic
  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

  • aceman from Slovakia for helping in daily triage.

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Account Provisioner

Polishing the latest details.

OpenSearch
  • Just finishing up some refactoring and adding some Mozmill tests
  • After that, reviews/landing!
Test Pilot
  • Test Pilot checked into 9.0.
  • Next up
    • File followups for minor issues
    • Update add-on version for 8.0
    • Start making studies!
    • First study about Menus and Toolbar or what kind and # of accounts

Experiments

Thunderbird Conversations

On hold, working on get an account.

Compose in a tab
Account Summary
Ubuntu Unity Integration
  • EDS Contacts Integration add-on got updated to fix an annoying authentication loop problem. Fix should be rolled out shortly.
  • Ubuntu Oneiric gets released on Thursday! Woo!
    • As such, Mike is bracing himself for a possible onslaught of bug reports / triage (in Launchpad)
  • Blake and Mike are heading to Orlando at the end of the month to attend the Ubuntu Developer Summit

Schedule and Progress

Thunderbird 8
Thunderbird 9
  • Add-on compatibility bump information collated, should be done before Thunderbird 9 makes it to beta.
Thunderbird 3.1.x
  • The 3.1 series is going to keep going while we discuss how to work with enterprise users. Once there’s a way forward there, we’ll close down the 3.1 branch.

Extension of the week

  • Auto Compress File : uses mozilla’s integrated zip library to compress attachments and send them smaller to your correspondents.

QA Updates

  • Releases
  • Bugzilla

Marketing Updates

  • Thunderbird ADUs reached 7.4MM with Germany, US, France, Japan, Italy leading the way.
  • Getting ready for TB8.
  • Preparing a few surveys.
  • Getting swag ready for Ubuntu Dev Summit

Infrastructure Update

  • New Try Server is out: Known Issues
    • Still experiencing various issues, but will get them hammered out.
  • SSL serving infrastructure significantly beefed up for all the new https:// start pages.

Build / Release Update

Web Update

  • Ran the TB8 compatibility bump last week, catching up!
    • TB9 bump should be done ahead of beta, code will be done this week.
  • Fixed a number of kitsune bugs, and the new version is live on SUMOMO.
  • Filed bug 692956 to track getting TB on nightly.mozilla.org

Documentation

Support

(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list and briefly introduce yourself to the list)

  1. 1687 new support topics (1944 1 week ago) – 3-9October2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png
  2. Thunderbird 8 Support Issues – Please edit and add any issues found in TB8 starting with TB8 Beta 1
  3. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

rebron , mconley, bwinton, standard8, Usul, roland, bienvenu, sancus,gozer,jenzed

Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-11

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Goals

Notices / Schedule

Firefox Development

Firefox Developer Tools

Performance

GFX

  • Graphics BugKill day was last Friday, October 7, 2011.
    • We closed 308 bugs out of the 493 total we touched – about 63% close rate. (There were bugs we didn’t touch but did open; thus this is a maximum.)
    • Anecdotal “evidence” says that older bugs were closed with a higher frequency than newer bugs.
    • We found some patches that had languished for 4+ years, many without review requests (i.e., a failure on our part to notice them).
    • We found other bugs that had languished for a long time for no good reason, and created patches for them.
    • Still TBD: where we go from here for our remaining 2000+ bugs.

JS

Layout

Video

DOM

  • New DOM bindings for NodeList and friends landed! (peterv, bug 648801)
  • malloc() call site responsible for 3% of our mallocs found and eliminated. (jlebar, bug 688619)

WebAPI

  • Initial patches for camera on desktop.
  • Have reproducable testcase for appcache bug!

Network

Plugins

Mobile

  • Native UI Status Update [1]
    • using birch twig
    • `front end` team formed
  • Flash work progressing, expected to be “usable” in nightlies (on phones) this week

Accessibility

Multi-Process

http://screencast.com/t/co0keQy7MjP

– What you can see in the video: loading multiple tabs, tab titles, progress notifications, status notifications, mouse (hover, scroll, drag, text selection), keyboard input, focus change, killing the content process, restarting the content process, non-remote tab not affected by process kill

– What else is in being worked on at the front-end: session restore, context-menu, spellchecker menu, network prioritizer, back/forward history, panorama. See details at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=fxe10s

Tree Management

  • Rev3 -> Rev4 Snow Leopard update:
    • Testing new r4 machines in parallel. There are 64 machines in production, hidden on tbpl. Can see test/talos results by adding ‘&noignore=1’ to tbpl.
    • When r4 machines are known to be good, will turn off r3 snow leopard machines.

Security

Security Reviews Scheduled for this week

Date / Time

Item
Mon Oct 10 / 13:00 PST

WebRTC Discussion
Wed Oct 12 / 13:00 PST

JetPack
Thu Oct 13 / 10:00 AM PST

Panel Based Download Manager
Thu Oct 13 / 11:00 AM PST

Silent Updates Service / Silent Update OS Dialogs

Calendar and Meeting details

Stability Report

Socorro

Desktop

  • Trunk
    • bug 693467 Firefox 10.0a1 Crash @ mozilla::plugins::PluginModuleParent
    • bug 693655 Firefox 10.0a1 Crash [@ nsDocAccessible::AnchorJump() ]
    • bug 693658 Firefox 10.0a1 Crash Report [@ mozilla::a11y::FocusManager::ProcessFocusEvent(AccEvent*) ]
  • Firefox 7
    • bug 688637 – Blocklist in place for 14.4.0 version. McAfee advises they have shipped a 14.4.1 update to remedy this issue. This signature is no longer at the top of the 7.0.1 stats (#41 in browser crashes)
    • bug 690877 Roboform Toolbar crash – they released an update so this signature is now dropping.
    • bug 689738 Kaspersky Password Manager
    • bug 680927 Oracle Enterprise, F5 Networks, Passlogix V-GO, IBM Tivoli Access Manager SSO
    • bug 680274 Firefox Crash [@ JS_GetGlobalObject ] with Norton’s software
  • Flash
    • Several reports from input that there are problems with Flash.
    • Trying to get some data correlating this to Flash 11.
    • Doing a review of the Flash problems to track changes in signatures and prepare a list for Adobe.
    • Have a reproducible Flash hang – working on trying to figure out if that can help diagnose some of these problems.

Mobile

  • Detailed weekly report – https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Fennec/crash_rep_10Oct2011.
  • Working on better reports that break down the crash experience – content crashes vs Application crashes.
  • Also looking at crash experience – needs some work.
  • Analysis Highlights
    • bug 689778Some content crashes are not getting reported at all
    • bug 689781Some content crashes will show in about:crashes but does not get sent to soccoro
    • bug 692185 – Java crashes are not showing up in App Notes for Fennec Java Crashes
    • bug 691842 – Fennec 8.0b1 is showing no reports.
    • bug 689366 – top crash on 9.0a2, will be fixed in 10. Would like to try and get this in for 9.0.
    • Top Bugs :
      • bug 661158 Crash on mobile SMP devices while sending PRNetAddr over IPDL [@ Pickle::ReadBytes]
      • bug 663494 – crashing occurs when trying to restart after energysaving power down; crash [@ base::CloseSuperfluousFds]
      • bug 622992 Fennec crash in base::CloseSuperfluousFds
      • bug 687367 – Bionic domain name functions are not thread-safe on pre-3.0 Android
    • Top 6.0.2 Bug :
      • bug 677548 – crash [@ nsBuiltinDecoderStateMachine::AdvanceFrame ][@ libc.so@0x15dd8]

Roundtable

10-October-2011

Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-10

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

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Friends of the Tree

  • Robert Kaiser (KaiRo) would like to nominate Terry Rather, who has been and is continuing to be incredibly helpful by replying to every single email sent to webmaster-at-mozilla-dot-org, forwarding real issues to the right people and helping people with support requests.
  • Naoki Hirata (nhirata) would like to nominate VictorC for helping out with Performance Testing on Test day.
  • Shannon Prior would like to nominate Chrissie Brodigan, Lee Tom, Steven Garrity, Pascal Chevral, Anthony Ricaud and all of the localizers who helped with the State of Mozilla project!

Upcoming Events

This Week

Monday, 10 October

Tuesday, 11 October

Wednesday, 12 October

Thursday, 13 October

  • Firefox UX Team will present “Firefox Design Principles” — learn useful principles to guide you when building a Firefox feature, what our audience looks like, and what makes us different from other browsers. If we can pull it off, this will be simul-presented in San Francisco (by Alex Limi) and Mountain View (by Alex Faaborg), and streamed via Air Mozilla — look out for announcement of exact time on dev.planning. Tentatively scheduled for 2pm PST.

Friday, 14 October

Next Week

Product Status Updates

Firefox Future (8, 9, 10)

  • Nothing to say, keep on rocking mozilla-central
  • FYI, the Aurora add-on compatibility bump will hopefully happen this week

Firefox Current (3.5, 3.6, 4.0 – 7.0)

Mobile Firefox

  • Work on the Java front end is moving ahead

Thunderbird

Older Branch Work

Drumbeat

Speakers

The limit is 3 minutes per speaker. It’s like a lightning talk, but don’t feel that you have to have slides in order to make a presentation.

Presenter

Topic

Media

More Details
Heather Arthur

Bugzilla Dashboard(s)

http://harthur.github.com/bzhome/

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:REST_API, http://toolness.github.com/bugzilla-dashboard, https://github.com/dangoor/buggerall
Shannon Prior

State of Mozilla

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/annualreport/2010/

Status Updates By Team

Firefox

Platform

Messaging

Mobile

IT

Release Engineering

QA

Test Execution
  • Firefox 8 beta 2 (desktop/mobile) to be deployed this week
  • Syncing issues should be 90% resolved today. If you’re still having issues, please follow these instructions to report bugs.
  • BrowserID testday this friday, Oct 14
WebQA
QA Community
Automation Services

Automation & Tools

Security

Security Reviews Scheduled for this week

Date / Time

Item
Mon Oct 10 / 13:00 PST

WebRTC Discussion
Wed Oct 12 / 13:00 PST

JetPack
Thu Oct 13 / 10:00 AM PST

Panel Based Download Manager
Thu Oct 13 / 11:00 AM PST

Silent Updates Service / Silent Update OS Dialogs

Calendar and Meeting details

Engagement

PR

Events

Creative Team

Community Marketing

Support

Metrics

Evangelism

Labs

Developer Tools

Add-ons

Webdev

L10n

Introducing New Hires

  • Davor Spasovski: joining the Web Dev team, managed by Wil Clouser, located in the Mtn. View Office.
  • Diane Bisgeier: Program Manager WebFWD, located in the SF office.

Foundation Updates

Roundtable

5-October-2011

Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-05

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

Mobile/Notes/05-Oct-2011


Details

  • Wednesdays – 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC
  • Dial-in: conference# 95312
    • US/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 95312
    • US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312
    • Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312
  • irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel
  • vidyo: WarpCore

Schedule

  • Next merge date is 2011-11-08

Major Topics for This Week

Application

Front-end

  • Always on the lookout for performance issues
  • More stabilizing Fx9 on tablet and phone
    • We have been doing pretty good finding and fixing regresisons
    • We have a few patches to push to Aurora. More coming.
    • More triage on the backlog of non-theme bugs we have been accumulating
  • Get more testing on:
    • Webapps
    • Locale Picker
    • Camera
  • Make some decisions on:
    • Flash on demand (front-end patch getting better)
    • UA (we should just add ‘mobile’ to our phone UA, following the Android ‘guidelines’)
    • Featurettes, like the Clear Private Data changes, need triage and UX

UX design

  • Fx9
    • The tablet UI is in Aurora, but there are few things we like to see land in Aurora:
      • Prefs/Downloads/Add-ons screens (as they are in nightly)
      • the new throbber, on tablets only
      • style revisions to Start Page bug 626528
      • that’s all – looking good!
    • progress on readability, from dbaron
    • is there a front-end patch/build for flash?
  • Post-Fx9

Platform Support

Android

Native Front-End

  • See [1]
  • Planning to have a prototype for the work week in Toronto (on schedule)

Flash

  • Front-end: Working with desktop team on click-to-enable
  • Honeycomb work shelved until after the mobile summit
  • Snorp working on clipping and performance issues

IME

  • bug 653895 – Cached text and selection indexes in parent process aren’t always synced
    • Have a draft implementation, which seems to work with SwiftKey X, but still has some issues with Swipe – needs more debugging.
  • Shelved for a couple weeks while we’re working on the native FE

Permissions

  • bug 691054 landed in beta, aurora, and nightly to remove some scary-sounding permissions (“Read phone state and identity”) that we weren’t using.
  • bug 672352 discusses other permissions and how to message them to users.
  • mbrubeck would like to write a blog post about this.

Performance

  • Focusing on mobile startup shrink bugs for Fx 10. There are about 32 bugs in the queue.
    • Status: bug 673249 is a dupe of bug 686805 (incremental zip compression in our linker) and Taras has slated for 10/3
  • Need approval of matrix/test cases by eng; will shop them around today so QA has enough time to prep for Friday’s test day.

Bugs

A small selection of bugs we are (or could be) looking at:

  • bug 674651 – nsContentPolicy should skip resource and chrome schemes
    • Updated patch and found small to no improvement. Looking to make sure all the code paths are covered.
  • bug 689713 – Warm up the DNS cache in Java when launching with a URL intent
    • Need to test
  • bug 690903 – nsFormHistory should lazily initializes SQLite DB
    • Patch in progress
  • bug 691534 – Use asyncFetch when loading files in aboutHome.xhtml
    • Landed and requested Aurora approval
  • bug 690901 – Start building a new profile in Java instead of waiting for Gecko to load
  • bug 690898 – Use pre-built SQLite DBs when creating a new profile

Testing

QA

Test Suites

Test Automation

  • bug 691073 – crash while running jsreftests on my tegra – NEED HELP
  • bug 691425 – minidump collection and processing in automation to be landed shortly
  • bug 691349 – Reftest OpenGL tests for Android coming online in the near future!

Release Engineering

android_tier_1

  • we’re now at 29 open android tier 1 bugs, even though we’re the greenest we’ve been in ages.
    • we welcome any help here
  • (fixed) bug 690496 – n900 talos broken
  • (fixed) bug 690751 – tegra power cycle exceptions
    • due to differing firmwares on the remote pdus
    • bear switched us to snmp in bug 690464 (locked); should solidify our power cycle story
  • bug 665891 – add 200 new tegras to pool: 70 new tegras on their way shortly; will bring us to 190.
  • bug 689937 – 7 new foopies needed to run those tegras
  • philor may be asking about turning off debug android tests soon

SUMO

  • Fraudulent SMS reported by 55 users on SUMO.

http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/881358

  • 70 messages sent to firefoxforandroid@mozilla.com last week, 39 to SUMO.
  • 25% of low reviews for v8 about permissions
  • Completed drafts for master password and add bookmark to home screen articles

Quotes:

  • Absolutely in love with Firefox 7 on Android. Soooo much better than the stock browser.
  • Better Getting better. Faster than previous versions. Needs support for flash to become my default browser. Keep updating. Droid X.
  • After a year it so there is a ‘copy’ feature! Nice UX I really like tabs mechanism, fast and nice. I’ll start using it when you add flash support.
  • Better than regular browser on my EVO
  • Very nice! For quick searches Dolphin Mini, for real Internet Browsing Firefox with outstanding bookmarks sync!

Other

Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-05

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Firefox/Planning/2011-10-05


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Planning Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays – 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room
  • irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)

Video/Teleconference Details – NEW

  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US)
  • Vidyo Room: Warp Core
  • Vidyo Guest URL
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Actions from Last Week

Kev to come back with a summary of the current state of the ESR discussions

NOTE: As of 11:00 Pacific, this update is incomplete. I will update this page by 13:00 Pacific, and will go over missing items on the call.

The response from the Enterprise User Working group has been mostly positive, in that the proposal meets needs. We’ve also spoken with large software vendors, and the concept of the ESR is something that they believe they can work with. There are concerns around specific sections of the proposal, notably:

  • The possible limitation of ESR to two full release cycles (this has been outlined as a minimum, per the proposal, but there is concern that the ESR would end at the minimum)
  • Limited access to the ESR via authentication or paywall mechanisms

In addition to the discussions around the ESR, there has been additional discussion around GPO and MSI support, but those conversations are out of scope for the proposal itself, and we’re trying to keep them separate.

Media response to the proposal has been factual, and has been neutral across the board. In general, the proposal has been accepted as something that addresses needs and shows that Mozilla is listening, but needs ratification from both organizations that deploy Firefox and Mozilla itself. References to various articles written about the article are available below:

CNET News: Mozilla proposes not-so-rapid-release Firefox
Computerworld: Mozilla proposes 5X slower Firefox release tempo for enterprises
Conceivably Tech: Mozilla Proposes 42-Week Release Cycle For Firefox in Businesses
Ghacks: Mozilla Proposes Extended Support For Firefox
ZDNet: Mozilla attempts to appease enterprise users with talk of 42-week Firefox release cycle
PC World: Mozilla Answers Business Users with a Slower Firefox Schedule
InformationWeek: Firefox Enterprise Support: Mozilla Changes Its Tune
ITProPortal: Mozilla Proposes ‘Slower’ Firefox Releases for Enterprises
PC Pro: Firefox offers slower release cycle for business
PC Magazine: Irked By Quick Release Cycle Get Extended Firefox Support
Tom’s Hardware Guide: Mozilla Proposes Firefox ESR Versions for Businesses‎

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases

Firefox Desktop

Release (3.6, 7)

Beta (8)

  • Expecting to start 8.0b2 today

Aurora (9)

  • Add-on compatibility bump is scheduled for next week

Nightly (10)

  • Seeing bad user sniffing due to two digit version (we knew this would happen)
    • bug 690287 – Tracking bug
    • bug 690391 – Be proactive in impact assessment
    • We are discussing some potential mitigation, nothing to share yet

Firefox Mobile

Top customer issues and plans to fix

Top three FF7 issues and plans for resolution:

  • Performance: 22% of & 2 star reviews on Android market this week report that FF7 is too slow. Startup shrink and memshrink projects continue work to resolve, see also https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Notes/05-Oct-2011#Performance.
  • Flash player support: 22% of 1&2 star reviews on the Android Market this week report that they need Flash player; flash player is the top complaint (other than device wish list) on SUMO with 98 votes this week, Flash is the most common issue reported against FF7 on input.mozilla.com. 17% of email sent to ‘the developer’ from Android Market this week were also requests for Flash support. Flash support did not make FF9, but there is a prototype in progress, see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=630007
  • Stability: 11% of 1 & 2 star reviews on the Android Market this week report that the browser is unstable: freezes phone is most common, followed by crashes, and lastly it is resource heavy.

Top three FF8 issues and plans for resolution:

  • Permissions: 24% of 1 & 2 star reviews on the Android Market this week report that the browser has unacceptable permissions (phone identity), see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=691054 for the fix
  • Support for flash is second most common below-average review comment.
  • Performance (slow & unstable) is third.

FYI: 55 people on SUMO reported receiving a fraudulent SMS message about a Mozilla Firefox phone number drawing in the UK requesting an email reply.
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/881358

Perf Bugs

A small selection of bugs we are (or could be) looking at:

  • bug 674651 – nsContentPolicy should skip resource and chrome schemes
    • Updated patch and found small to no improvement. Looking to make sure all the code paths are covered.
  • bug 689713 – Warm up the DNS cache in Java when launching with a URL intent
    • Need to test
  • bug 690903 – nsFormHistory should lazily initializes SQLite DB
    • Patch in progress
  • bug 691534 – Use asyncFetch when loading files in aboutHome.xhtml
    • Landed and requested Aurora approval
  • bug 690901 – Start building a new profile in Java instead of waiting for Gecko to load
  • bug 690898 – Use pre-built SQLite DBs when creating a new profile

7

8

  • New permission request added which has caused poor ratings
    • backed out on trunk
    • need to figure out what to do about scary permissions

9

  • Requesting approval for some followups for tablet theme
  • Requesting approval for some perf improvements
  • Requesting approval for some camera crash fixes

10

  • More performance work
  • Potential new stuff: Phone UI, Reading Mode and Flash

Firefox Sync

  • Firefox 7:
    • Mitigations are being taken to fix the Sync issues occurring. Expected to be back to normal tomorrow.
    • A postmortem will be held.
  • Firefox 10+:
  • New Inbox for Sync ideas that will be reviewed monthly – Anyone welcome to contribute

Add-on Builder

  • upload to AMO launched last week, will be updated today to fix a couple of small issues.
  • 1.0 final public release remains targeted for early to mid-Q1 2012
    • I will be engaging with marketing as that time horizon draws near
  • Q4 2011 goals are on the goals wiki under the AMO section
    • This quarter is about shaping and hardening the existing feature set for the upcoming final release
  • KPI stats update:
    • There are currently over 8,500 registered users on the Builder – an increase of almost 400% Q/Q
    • The Builder is currently home to some 15,700 add-ons and libraries, ~2,000 of which have seen significant development – an increase of more than 400% Q/Q

Add-on SDK

Release (1.1 -> Firefox 7)

  • Did a post-mortem on repacks process
  • posted a proposal for repacks (short term and long term) on dev.planning, addons blog, and jetpack forum (Proposal)

Stabilization (1.2 -> Firefox 7, 8)

  • Third test build 1.2b3 spun yesterday
  • Are moving release up one week to Oct. 18th (discussion)

Development (1.3 -> Firefox 8, 9)

  • Merge to stabilization will also be moved up one week to reflect new schedule

Feedback Summary

Desktop

Firefox 7.0.1

  • Lots of sync complaints around server problems (mainly because it’s distracting)
    • Can’t delete accounts because of a deletion-page error (users try that first when they get errors)
    • We may have broken the “reset your sync account” fix as well
    • Errors about incorrect passwords are not the correct error and often confusing.
  • Add-on compatibility
    • Yahoo Toolbar is definitely incompatible and not fixed by 7.0.1 but I’m no longer sure about the lost bookmarks tie-in.
      • From kev: Yahoo took down bookmarks.yahoo.com, Toolbar is compatible but binary isn’t which leads to bustage and a storage migration that prevented users from accessing the bookmarks they had.
    • AVG — users need to update manually.
    • Some norton complaints but getting better — Updating is slow
  • Yahoo Mail errors (may have been server problems on their end)
  • Angel (a course management software used by a number of universities) isn’t compatible with Firefox 7, some schools are advising users to downgrade to Firefox 6. bug 673714. Blizzard is working on this.
  • Lots of complaints about java: [1] and [2]. This may be related to Angel (above).
  • Complaints of freezing/hanging (again, may be more than usual, hard to say) [3] (for example).
  • “XML Parsing Error: undefined entity Location: chrome://browser/content/browser.xul.” errors. Caused by add-on updates (may be related to updating from Firefox 3.X – Firefox 7), may be not.
  • Firefox gets stuck and is unable to load pages after a while. Caused by network.http.max-connections getting set to 256 (changed in bug 648570). [4]

Firefox 8

  • Videos on Apple.com only play audio (they’re delivering h.264 content to Firefox builds). bug 528314
  • Can’t drag and drop tabs into bookmarks: bug 674723.
  • Scrolling on some sites is slower than usual on OSX: [5]
  • Lots of Sync complaints here as well: [6]

Firefox 9

(A rehash for those of you in the Aurora meeting yesterday, but now with bug numbers!).

  • Add-on compatibility (in Aurora you get 3 weeks on, 3 weeks off), which is a pain
  • Weird toolbar resizing problems: [7] and [8] bug 691917
  • Problem with closing security exception window (?) [9]
  • A couple complaints about how we’re moving tabs around: [10] and [11].
  • A couple complaints involving download manager behavior: [12] and [13] and [14] and [15] bug 691921

Firefox 10

  • Complaints about dropdowns not working with arrow keys: [16] (probably bug 690668 but a lot of complaints for somthing that’s x64 specific).
    • Should get fixed after a quick bug review.

Mobile

This has moved UP to the Mobile status report ^^^

UX & User Research

Still looking for developers who want to watch usability sessions in Toronto during mobile week. Will take about 1 hour of your time from the 17th-19th. Contact Mary Trombley to get started.

Market Insights

Mobile

Summary below, full update here and in your inbox.

  • Android approaching 1 million activations/day as it launches a new version next week and conquers even lower price points ($35 in India)
  • Opera extended its partnership with Safaricom, Kenya’s leading network operator
  • The iPhone 4s was announced, featuring an updated CPU and camera and iCloud integration
  • PhoneGap was acquired by Adobe, who also launched a new suite of mobile applications
  • UC Web, a Chinese mobile browser, prepares to target the US market
  • Amazon is rumoured to be interested in acquiring WebOS
  • 3G turns 10 years old. Japan, its pioneer, has a 96% penetration rate

Marketing, Press & Public Reaction

Mobile

  • Continuing to iterate on product positioning
  • Researching approaches to focus on tablet users
  • Putting together marketing plan for Firefox 9 release

Questions, Comments, FYI

Actions this week

  • Jen to come back with postmortem summary for sync issues in FF7
  • Daniel to report back on re-repack of SDK-based addons after version number bustage

4-October-2011

SeaMonkey Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-04

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2011-10-04


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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

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Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
    • I nominate Callek for the tremendous amount of work he’s done recently setting up the software on the build machines. — Tonymec 13:30, 2 October 2011 (PDT)
    • – I concur. Ewong
    • Please note A person or entity can’t be nominated twice in a row.

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn’t been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

OPEN

  • IanN to come up with a proposal on any additions/subtractions for the project areas page and send it around council/members.
  • IanN to write the “Friends of the Fish Tank” F.A.Q.

CLOSED

  • We should find a better way of getting nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • We could put out a call for nominations the week before then, at the time of the meeting notice going out we could include any nominations (We need to come up with a quick FAQ as to what merits a nomination). IanN has put out an email to the members list. InvisibleSmiley came up with some sensible suggestions.
    • We need to advertise such a thing happens even if it is only in the meeting notice.

Release Train

  • Callek is working on getting comm-aurora and comm-beta on MXR (bug 653424).
    • Patch updated. Awaiting review
  • 2.4 final shipped 27 September (along with the channel moves), 2.4.1 shipped 29 September and 2.5b1 shipped 30 September.
  • Target date for 2.5 is around 8th November.

Extensions Compatibility Tracking

  • Addon Compatibility Listings created and maintained by InvisibleSmiley, with help from some community members like DERoss.
    • Recent changes can be found here.
    • [InvisibleSmiley:] The External Sources part is still TODO, help appreciated.
  • Enigmail provides versions for release (AMO) and all branches (Enigmail nightly page)
  • Lightning currently provides versions for the current stable release (AMO), Aurora and trunk (both FTP) and Beta (Calendar Versions page).
  • The latest Firebug is now fully compatible but still not flagged as such on AMO (which seems to depend on automatic tests being set up and run on the Firebug side, see Issue 4430)
    • [InvisibleSmiley] Use Firebug 1.9 pre-releases for 2.4 and later (maybe even earlier SM versions; haven’t checked)
  • Besides the above, we should also take a look at other add-ons that are important for our users when they switch to 2.x.
  • InvisibleSmiley created a FAQ Wiki page. Everybody please help update it, so it stays current without needing too much maintenance.
  • KaiRo created a SeaMonkey Features page and sub-pages for all those that are in development.

We need to get the Addon Compatibility page finished and better communicate how to keep Lightning and Enigmail updated since unfortunately the only versions provided on AMO are for the current stable release. People keep coming back reporting that e.g. Lightning stopped working on trunk, Aurora or Beta. But since it contains binary components, Lightning easily breaks if you don’t retrieve the matching install file yourself.

We should also add some information on this to the release notes of future betas.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.x Follow-ups and Issues

  • Lost Bookmarks bug 673474 and Cookies bug 673672 on auto-update from 2.0.14 to 2.x.
    • Bookmarks can be re-imported from bookmarks.html.
  • Users are unhappy about various UX and usability issues with the new Data Manager.
    • Ratty proposes that until all the major pain points are addressed, links to the old individual managers be established (probably from the various Data Manager panes).

2.4

open tracking (0)
tracking requests (0)
targeted (0)
fixed (26)

  • The New 2.4 Features page has a comprehensive list of features.
  • 2.4.x had ~57,700 ADU yesterday and 2.4.1 has had ~33,600 downloads so far.
    • vs. 22,422 on 2.3, 5,050 on 2.2, 1,679 on 2.1 and 30,925 on 2.0. So, in the last two weeks, ~5k have migrated to 2.3 or above.
  • Also note that yesterday’s numbers are somewhat low due to Germany having had a holiday.

2.Next

  • We need to make sure that anything that landed on comm-beta (for TB) or mozilla-beta (for FF) which affected non-shared code and which fixed regressions will be fixed on our side, too. Please mark bugs we feel *need* to land on a particular train tracking+ or tracking? so that when I go to do a release I can be sure I don’t miss anything.
    • We also need to try harder to fix regressions ASAP. Also keep an eye on and prioritize bugs to be ported from FF/TB that land on branches (Aurora, Beta). We need to keep an eye especially on Session Restore, Sync and Tabbrowser.
    • We have to be careful not to break code shared with Thunderbird, otherwise patches might have to be backed out of string frozen repositories.
  • Please help updating the New 2.5 Features page as we go.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 58 new, 25 fixed, 14 triaged.

  • More new than fixed and triaged together…
    • We need to go through those NEW bugs looking for dupes.
  • Good further triage targets could come out of looking at the component bug counts, pick yours!

IanN wonders when would be a good time to have another bug day. Perhaps in October, once 2.4 is out?

  • Tonymec and IanN wonder if the last time was mid-week or on weekend. Operation Nugzilla happened from May 18th to 20th (Wed to Fri).
  • Tonymec checks his calendar and suggests the last week of October e.g. 26th to 31st or so.
  • Tonymec to start a discussion in the sm-members list regarding the next bug day. We should give potential bug busters as much notice as possible.

Open reviews/flags:
31 review
12 super-review
0 ui-review
7 feedback

Major wanted/needed features:

Active

  • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition [IanN].
    • Progressing slowly, still waiting on reviews from TB side. Full customization has to go to 2.next (currently 2.6 but could be pushed back further) as it needs work on TB too which is taking a while to get reviews on, plus feedback from kaze.
    • IanN has done as much unpicking of Composer/Mail Compose code as possible in the dependent bugs, so will be reworking his customising patches.
  • de-RDF bug 654864 has been finished and landed on all development branches, including 2.3. Still to do:
    • Neil wanted to follow up on some listener issues
    • for the selection issue, see what the TB guys come up with in bug 669203
  • bug 477845 Build a standalone (Comm-central) Composer. [kaze]
    • kaze has done a bit of work in this bug recently. Building on Windows works. Now supports debug builds on Linux if tests are disabled (–disable-tests). Still a lot to do.
    • IanN will see if he can help get builds working with --enable-tests.

Needing help, Unowned, Stalled

  • Kill-RDF:
    • bug 657607 Port jminta’s kill-rdf to SeaMonkey where applicable Part 2 [meta].
    • bug 657604 Remove the RDF global object. [serge]
  • bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
    • SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.
  • bug 449728 Drag tabs between windows.
  • bug 477840 Backport KompoZer to Composer (Depends on bug 477845).
    • kaze has done a ton of work there. We still need to work out some organizational issues. At the moment there is no active interest from MoMo for bringing standalone composer into comm-central. That’s something we (KaiRo and kaze) will have to negotiate with the Thunderbird team (Standard8).
  • bug 507841 Port Bug 422814 – Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure (autoconfig, Quick Account Setup).
  • bug 533908 SeaMonkey Mail: tabs not restored [misak].
  • bug 523274 Complete new default theme icon set.
  • bug 526210 Update the icon set for the SeaMonkey Modern Theme.
    • bug 548778 New communicator icons (based on Strata theme) for SeaMonkey. Some proposed icons got posted, we should take a look how to get that contribution into the product.
    • The rest is unowned so far.
  • bug 87098 [SeaMonkey] Delete key should delete location bar history list entry.
    • Note: Our location bar history doesn’t and can’t use autocomplete at all.
  • bug 677484 Individual SeaMonkey components are not properly handled by the Windows 7 taskbar.
  • bug 654009 Reply to list: automatically determine From: address
    • Note: The actual task here is to port bug 45715 “Reply to List” [button/(context) menu item]

Roundtable – Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers – what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

Aqualon

asrail

Callek

  • bug 688357, fix SeaMonkey Windows Build Failure due to Bug 648581.
  • bug 680113 – Select Add-ons dialog lists distribution add-ons as installed by the user
  • bug 687797 – Bring CentOS 5 Linux Slaves up to date based on MoCo puppet configs.
  • bug 680200 – Add fi to Venkman all-locales
  • bug 688682 – Tracking bug for build and release of SeaMonkey 2.4 Final Release
  • bug 688958 – Tracking bug for build and release of SeaMonkey 2.4 MU [Major Update]
  • bug 690041 – Tracking bug for build and release of SeaMonkey 2.4.1 Oilspill
  • bug 688951 – Build/Release SeaMonkey 2.5 Beta 1
  • IT Fixed bug 686771 – Grant Callek access to push to l10n repositories.
  • bug 689152 – Broken feed preview prevents subscribing to any feed
  • bug 691244 – SeaMonkey Idle Slaves don’t reboot properly…
  • Upgraded buildbot code on the tools repo fork and buildbotcustom (seamonkey-production branch) which includes rolling in the previously fixed (by me) bug 668724 and doing a followup for that.
  • Created Releases/SeaMonkey2.5 Tracking page, with some handy bug queries.
  • Nominated a new name for SeaMonkey Council, currently waiting on some people to vote, once known, details will be announced.
  • Congratulated ewong on his ability to properly implement a subclass of nsIDeveloper<Edmund>. Something I, Myself, did (nsIDeveloper<Callek>) almost 3 years ago.
  • Created hotfix addon for our Update Cert Issue from Sea < 2.3.1. Once this is approved I will broadcast it more than just meeting.

ewong

  • Fixed:
    • bug 513900 – executable permissions for data files (port bug 461322 to SeaMonkey)
  • Checkin-needed:
  • Needs Review:
  • Working On:
    • bug 78357 – Account wizard doesn’t have place to enter port info
    • bug 654966 – File > Save As > Templates should not be active for NNTP folders.
    • bug 670561 – show profile path in profile manager.
    • bug 675589 – Group all session restore menu items together.
  • Investigating:
    • bug 13818 – Ability to change the “quoteline”
    • bug 16717 – Disable source folder in Move/Copy/File menus
    • bug 39113 – Show current profile name in preferences (backed out)
    • bug 513900 – executable permissions for data files (port bug 461322 to SeaMonkey)
    • bug 527173 – Spellchecker settings are in the Mail section but the SP is used by all components
    • bug 620324 – Selected multiple mail folders to move, but only one folder gets moved
  • BackBurner:
    • bug 649952 – Port |Bug 609824 – Re-add Bloglines to the feed reader options| to SeaMonkey

IanN

  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 21432 Implement Print Preview and Print Setup / Page Setup as in the browser
    • bug 685345 Stop using abDirTreeOverlay in TB
    • bug 676991 Move toolbar print button to utilityOverlay
    • bug 688970 Fix hiding of print preview menus on OS X
    • bug 690151 Bump Chatzilla compatibility for SeaMonkey 2.7 / Firefox 10.0
    • bug 690153 Bump DOM Inspector compatibility for SeaMonkey 2.7 / Firefox 10.0 / Thunderbird 10.0
    • bug 690160 Bump Venkman compatibility for SeaMonkey 2.7 / Firefox 10.0 / Thunderbird 10.0
    • bug 690326 Simplify venkman-overlay for Thunderbird
    • bug 683315 Update en-GB for Gecko 8.0 (mozilla-aurora)
    • bug 683323 Update en-GB for SeaMonkey 2.5/Thunderbird 8.0 (comm-aurora)
    • bug 689186 Update en-GB for Firefox 8.0 (mozilla-aurora)
    • bug 689200 Update en-GB for Calendar 1.0b8pre (comm-aurora)
    • Test for bug 552782 Outlines: Numbering is wrong
  • Waiting for review on:
    • bug 638643 Remove obsolete EditorToggleParagraphMarks from editor.js
    • bug 691144 Open Containing Folder should preselect the file
  • Waiting for additional review on:
    • bug 680805 Share edit menus between Composer, Plain Text Editor and Messenger Compose
    • bug 688765 Move file menu from editorOverlay to editingOverlay
    • bug 690145 Move CharsetPopupMenu code from editorOverlay to editingOverlay
  • Reviewed and waiting for other work before possible checkin:
    • bug 674942 Mailnews part of cookie code still gets built as MOZ_MAIL_NEWS is not configured correctly
  • Working on:
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.

InvisibleSmiley

  • Fixed:
    • bug 689123 Add support for Ctrl+A to Message Filters dialog list
    • bug 688950 Update SeaMonkey website for 2.4 Final release
    • bug 684651 Create/Update 2.4 Release Notes
    • bug 690044 Update SeaMonkey website for 2.4.1 Oilspill release
    • bug 688954 Update SeaMonkey website for 2.5 Beta 1 release
    • bug 689039 Fix Save button in Sync generic change dialog (accessing wrong bundle variable)
    • bug 679117 Add View/Apply Theme to MailNews
    • bug 688694 Make Account Settings dialog wider for Windows 7 after bug 660893 Port fix for bug 654402 |”Copies & Folders” page in Account Settings is cut off|
    • bug 689018 Port |bug 656492 – Rename “Sync Key” to “Recovery Key”| and |bug 681402 – Manage Accounts menu has My Sync Key|
    • bug 688281 Port bug 660684
    • bug 687329 Add and use template variable for release date for all release pages
    • bug 687207 Update SeaMonkey website for 2.4 Beta 3 release
  • Working On:
    • bug 665678 Open Add-ons Manager, Data Manager etc. according to Link Behavior preferences (i.e. in a window if the user chose so)
    • bug 688953 Create/Update 2.5 Release Notes
    • review bug 684537 Port bug 626949 |Sync UI: Style generic change dialogs like the setup and Add a Device wizards| to suite
    • track bug 687316 (Remaining) Sync changes to port to Suite

KaiRo

mcsmurf

  • Fixed bug 552118 File association icon is set to generic.
  • Working on bug 688615 Wrong reg key used in Installer shell icon handler code.

Misak

Mnyromyr

  • Working on bug 356742 [cocoa] Sheets are offscreen if opened when all windows closed (attached to hiddenwindow).

MReimer

Neil

Fixed bug 686616 “Tabs from other computers” Menu item appears when it isn’t supposed to.

Ratty

Fixed:

  • bug 687317 HTMLIsIndexElement is no longer available (spew when dealing with FAYT bar).
  • bug 689593 Change users of Array.prototype.splice to not rely on non-standard behavior of deleting all elements from |k| onward for |arr.splice(k)|.
  • bug 689963 “Error: nsIClassInfo is not defined” in nsSidebar.js.

Working on:

  • bug 690701 “Save Video As…” should respect the filename set in the Content-Disposition header.
  • bug 690706 Future-proof CrashSubmit against future argument additions.
  • bug 690778 Update nsFeedSniffer.cpp (Port part of bug 589292 Add contentDisposition{Filename} properties to nsIChannel).

Other:

  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • End user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

Ricardo

sgautherie

  • Fixed Core bugs:
    • bug 661403 configure.in: fix MOZ_INSTALLER code w.r.t. confvars.sh
  • Fixed other projects bugs:
    • [Calendar] bug 689370 Remove overridden ‘MOZ_INSTALLER=’ option from confvars.sh, in Calendar

Stanimir

  • Working on:

stefanh

Fixed:

  • bug 689270 js error when opening the Bookmarks menu without any windows open.

tonymec

Any other business?

  • Congratulations to ewong on the birth of his first child!
  • Need to review project areas
    • Iann will come up with a proposal on any additions/subtractions for the project areas page and send it around council/members.
  • Extended Support Releases (ESR)
    • At the moment looks like that will be based off either Gecko 8 or 9 so potentially that will be either 2.5 or 2.6 for us. Assuming we have the machines, we will also have an ESR which might help move some of those still on 2.0 up to 2.5/2.6.
    • Our ESR should use the same branch as Firefox ESR so any Security and Stability “extended” fixes for Gecko will be picked up by the SeaMonkey ESR.
  • Another nugzilla day.

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-04

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 11:00 pm

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

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Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> Bienvenu
  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Account Provisioner
OpenSearch
Test Pilot

Experiments

Thunderbird Conversations
Compose in a tab
Account Summary
Ubuntu Unity Integration
  • Nothing to report this week.

Schedule and Progress

Thunderbird 7
  • Released last week, with a follow-up 7.0.1 to fix an issue with disappearing add-ons on upgrade (temporary dataloss).
Thunderbird 8
  • Currently on: Beta (after today)
  • Releasing beta 1 today.
  • Add-on compatibility bump will happen this week (either today or Friday)
Thunderbird 9
  • Currently on: Aurora (after today)
Thunderbird 3.1.x
  • The 3.1 series is going to keep going while we discuss how to work with enterprise users. Once there’s a way forward there, we’ll close down the 3.1 branch.

Extension of the week

  • None this week – send suggestions to ludovic@mozilla.com

QA Updates

  • Releases
  • Bugzilla

Marketing Updates

  • Reached 7.3MM ADUs last week with Germany, US, France, Japan, and Italy leading the way.
  • Tb 7/7.01 releases and Tb 8 Beta 1.
  • Brand and market research planning.
  • Working with Ann-Marie on user surveys

Infrastructure Update

  • Vancouver office move out
  • Relocated all Vancouver build capacity to San Jose (mac-only)

Build / Release Update

  • OS X builds are now done in San Jose like the other platforms, so no more build dependency on the Vancouver office (bug 688838)
  • Thunderbird 7 and 3.1.15 released
  • Thunderbird 8.0 beta 1 built

Web Update

  • working on a better l10n scheme for our version of kitsune
  • TB8 compatibility bump will be run on Thursday after the AMO push
  • slightly over 50% of locales done l10n on TB7 pages bug 689449
  • Trying to figure out a way to get TB on nightly.mozilla.org

Documentation

  • interviewing new practicum student
  • talking to BCIT Tech Writing program head about addressing students on open source opportunities
  • four new KB articles (list and links to follow)
  • one new MDN article (New in TB 7)
  • four major MozillaZine updates (list and links to follow)
  • 33 inquiry responses

Support

(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list and briefly introduce yourself to the list)

  1. 1944 new support topics (1625 1 week ago) – Media:26September-2October2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png – up because of TB7 release on Tuesday
  2. Thunderbird 7 Support Issues
  3. Thunderbird 8 Support Issues – Please edit and add any issues found in TB8 starting with TB8 Beta 1
  4. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

  • Lightning 1.0b7 released, no pressing issues
  • Lightning 1.0rc1 is being built, linux and windows is here, mac due tomorrow
  • l10n dashboard is just about set up, bug 689526
  • Working on getting mozmill running for calendar, partial success.

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

bienvenu standard8 jb mconley bwinton rebron roland ludo gozer jhopkins sancus jenzed phillip

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