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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, March 19, 2013 09:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Remember to use headphones and mute yourself when not talking

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Meeting Changes

• taking notes on Etherpad at https://thunderbird.etherpad.mozilla.org/status-meeting-minute-taking

• We have a calendar at https://mail.mozilla.com/home/mbanner@mozilla.com/Thunderbird%20Schedules to have meetings coming up.

Critical Issues

• Folks, do some reviews if you can. Also, try to help de-orange our tree.

Action Items From last Week

• Standard8: Document flags to tb-planning

• Standard8: Follow up with metric numbers being public
  • This should be happening soon, work has been done, waiting for final approvals
• Look into having the notes blogged
  • We need to get the meeting notes blog to pick up the pages again.
• Move http.jsm into toolkit? Maybe? clokep will talk to Mossop about that.
  • Mossop has been sick – clokep will be more aggressive this week.

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to abourcier@mozilla.com that she can send them a shirt!

Google Summer of Code

• Please go here and make sure your project ideas are listed

• We’re going to be submitting our ideas to Gerv and Florian this Friday, so make sure your ideas are polished and they have a mentor.

Status Updates

mconley

• Ensemble
  • In contact with a small firm in Slovakia that might be interested in hiring a contractor to help me on this

  • Successfully decoupled nsMsgSearchTerm from nsIAbManager using my new service
    • This should be ready for review soon (see bug 841603, and then I’ll work on decoupling other bits

    • A bit worried about the performance impact of frequently calling out to JS components from C++…
    • Haven’t had too much time for reviews lately. :( This might get worse, as Firefox Australis work is really starting to heat up.
• Profiler has been updated to give us symbols! Get an updated version of the Profiler here: https://github.com/bgirard/Gecko-Profiler-Addon/blob/master/geckoprofiler.xpi?raw=true

jcranmer

• Guess who won’t be on the call? Not me for once!

• Should have more time over next few weeks to do stuff including reviews
• cc-rework
  • Higher priority due to fallout from moz.build changes

  • Elimination of comm-central/configure.in works on Linux, doesn’t on OS X due to LDAP, untested on Windows (see bug 846540)
• jsmime
  • Landed bug 834757 (fix up nsIMimeConverter for JS implementation)

  • Working implementation of nsIMsgHeaderParser locally, not published anywhere
  • Hoping to get both parts into Thunderbird 24 (will fix almost all RFC 2047 problems!)

wsmwk

• patchlove
  • reviewing existing patchlove bugs and finding more old bugs with patches to add to patchlove

  • having good results in closing obsolete bugs and getting old patches landed
• bug 816327 – gmail folders redownloading – data collecting seems to be bearing fruit

clokep

• Sent Mossop an email, didn’t receive a response and pinged him on IRC last week:
  • Mossop was sick and should respond “soon”.

  • Will follow up more aggressively again this week
• http.jsm will need another change (found while updating to the Twitter v1.1 API): https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1890
  • Twitter v1 API could potentially be shut off as of March 5th, they’re doing “blackout” tests now. Patch to upgrade is waiting for review.

Standard8

• Mainly working on tree bustages, and working with Jcranmer on sorting out the build system so that we can hopefully avoid more bustages as the build system reorgs itself.

• Trying to catch up on reviews soon, but tree bustages and releases taking priority.

Action Items

• jcranmer: Ping bienvenu about WIP maildir converter for GSoC (by Friday)

• Ask Roland: is there a way we can give people SUMO permissions for article editing without having to bug you about it?

Attendees

Usul, satdav, jcranmer, florian, wsmwk, Standard8

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, February 5, 2013 09:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Remember to use headphones and mute yourself when not talking

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Meeting Changes

• taking notes on Etherpad at https://thunderbird.etherpad.mozilla.org/status-meeting-minute-taking

• We have a calendar at https://mail.mozilla.com/home/mbanner@mozilla.com/Thunderbird%20Schedules to have meetings coming up.
  • Is this visible for people with no Zimbra account
    • Yes

Critical Issues

• none

Upcoming

• Firefox is releasing 18.0.2 – doesn’t affect us.

Action Items

• Standard8: Update Wiki status meeting page with calendar link – DONE!

• Standard8: Document flags to tb-planning
• Standard8: Follow up with metric numbers being public – This should be happening soon, work has been done, waiting for final approvals
• Look into having the notes blogged
• We need to get the meeting notes blog to pick up the pages again.

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to abourcier@mozilla.com that she can send them a shirt!

Status Updates

• Standard8
  • Apologies for not being at the meeting today

  • Fixed a bunch of tree bustage this week
  • OS X builds being looked into (Bug 837618)
  • Been working with releng on getting 17.0esr and 17 mainstream building from one repository – various branding updates etc.
  • Aiming to catch up on reviews end of this week / start of next
  • Next week is preparation for builds for the 17.0.3 releases
  • Merge date for next cycle is 19th Feb (not 18th due to holidays: President’s day in USA; Family Day in Toronto; Vancouver Family day is February 11 for some strange reason)
• mconley
  • Spent a few hours going through my review queue this past weekend

  • Queue is shrinking, but still needs attention. I’ll get there soon.
  • Ensemble
    • Can save and update contacts very nicely with syntax like this: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2116543

    • Working on asynchronously retrieving all contacts with Promises, returning a Backbone Collection.
    • Considering altering the roadmap so that we target read-only capability for imported contacts for TB 24.s
      • Focusing on that will reduce focus on LDAP/Facebook/etc connectors.

      • Does anyone from the community want to help out with those?
      • Ludo says “+1″.
• bwinton
  • Also spent a few hours going through my review queue this past weekend.

  • Queue is also shrinking, but still needs attention.  :)
• jcranmer
  • Will not be at meeting

  • e4x is now dead and gone FOREVER! Thank-you!!!!!!!
  • Hoping to have m-c ready for subconfigure scripts shortly (see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648980) [prerequisite for cc-rework]
  • JS MIME
    • Next piece of functionality is i18n support (RFC 2047/RFC 2231)

    • Designing body/attachment and htmlifiers API still
  • de-RDF
    • Repreparing the folder-lookup patch based on mailing list feedback
  • DXR work and exams will probably suck up more of my time in the next few weeks
• aceman
  • happy that bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436089 lands now (checked in right now!!!). More removal of nsISupportsArray and nsIEnumerator in the queue.

  • Could use review in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=807848
  • bwinton’s & mconley’s reviews flowing in :)
  • special thanks to Neil for increased activity/responsiveness.
• Roland Tanglao
  • fingers crossed that :sancus gets showfor bug done this week so we can move the SuMoMo migration forward:

  • showfor: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=816279
  • migration tracker bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=816277
  • https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Thunderbird17.0SupportIssues (if you find any issues in 17.0.2)
• Usul
  • followed on some bugs

  • looked quickly at crashes
  • Marketing – AM is in the process of giving the keys to Benjamin.
  • Talked to Sun (yes it’s true they still have a team of 1 plus students working on old version about using Moztrap instead of Litmus
• clokep
  • Initial patch for handling invalid certs / SSL connections in chat done in https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100

  • Contacted Google and iTeleport about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775977 (iTeleport buddies causing Thunderbird to disconnect), got a response from iTeleport — being redirected to their engineering department
• Irving
  • Occasional reviews

  • Looking at bug 701533; appears to be symptom of a general problem with front end dropping all references to an IMAP socket without closing it; when NSS times out and closes the socket, references get released on the wrong thread.
• Axel
  • Have asked AMO Admins to implement Tb Addons Re-Categorization; https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835063 <=> https://etherpad.mozilla.org/tb-amo-category-improvements

Question Time

• Can anyone steal reviews for any module, or does it need to be a peer?
  • You have to use your best judgement. If it’s a trivial fix, or fixing something you feel you understand, then go for it. In Florian’s case, he should probably just take it.  ;)

Attendees

Roland Tanglao, Mike Conley, Irving Reid, Blake Winton, Ludovic Hirlimann, Florian Queze, aceman (audio, no mic), clokep (audio, no mic), RealRaven aka Axel :) (no mic here as well)

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> mconley

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
• Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to abourcier@mozilla.com that she can send them a shirt!

• Roland nominates Vincent aka el cameleon for writing articles in English, French and keeping track of hot, breaking Thunderbird issues.Merci beaucoup!

Thunderbird Development

Feature Work

Modern Address Book

• Regression that I caught last week when importing contacts from the Mork address books is fixed. Hooray!

• I need to refactor the way we save contacts in the database, since that’s affected by the new connector interface
• I’ve started designing the “backend for the front-end”, so to speak. Nothing down yet, but soon.

Instant Messaging

• This section is getting removed because IM shipped! Woo!

Schedule and Progress

• Likely not going to be rolling a 17.0.1.

• Next merge date: 07 01
• For information about channels, point people here – http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/channel/

Beta Version

• Thunderbird 18.0b1 rolling out this week (start build on Wednesday, ship it on Thursday)

Extension of the week

• Before Tabs Toolbar gives you a customizable toolbar just before the tab selector.
  • For added sweetness, try this experimental version. When you drag the appmenu button in there, it looks like the current Firefox app button! Woo!

QA Updates

• Did TB release stuff.

• Trying to figure out how to do new job and old job!
• Cleaning up Bugzilla components that is watching.

Build / Release Update

• Thunderbird 18.0b1 this week

• bug 815302 – [tracking] Build Thunderbird ESR and Mainline from a single repo

Web Update

• New Features page @: http://momo.last-chance.net/en-US/thunderbird/features

• Sandstone background and layout
• Font updated to Open Sans
• Tabzilla added to header menu, will be site-wide.
• Footer needs a few minor alterations, and screenshots probably need to be retaken/cropped better. I resized them quickly with CSS so some are a bit blurry. Couple of other minor tweaks.
• Not sure what to do with the main landing page image.
  • Probably going to use the octopus.

Support and Documentation

1. Again big thanks to all contributors (both volunteer and staff), past and preset, who helped support Thunderbird in the employee-driven phase. On to the next phase post Thunderbird 17! Can never give enough thanks!

2. Hot Thunderbird 17 Support Issues:
   • Windows Classic Theme bug – WORKAROUND: see KB article with hot issues

   • bug 814630, bug 805185 – Multiple Thunderbird Message Windows – WORKAROUND: delete session.json or Alt F4 on Windows to close one of the Thunderbird Message Windows
3. 915 new support topics (734 1 week ago ) – Media:19-25nov2012-tb-gs-stats.png
4. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

• We’re getting a few conflicts wrt times for this meeting.
  • Mark is going to be sending around mail to tb-planning about frequency and timing for the status meeting moving forward, as well as the content for the status meetings.
• No meeting next week until further notice.
• If you’re not on about:credits, go to about:credits, scroll all the way to the bottom for instructions on how to make that happen.

Attendees

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, November 27, 2012 09:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Remember to use headphones and mute yourself when not talking

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> jhopkins

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
• Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to abourcier@mozilla.com that she can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

Feature Work

Modern Address Book

• It’s been a slow couple of weeks due to other project deadlines (because today is release day!)

• I’ve almost finished porting over the TB Mork Connector tests to the new interfaces. I think I’ve found a regression while I’m at it, so there’s that to fix as well.
• We’re going to have to come up with a new solution for whitelisting HTML mail from particular addresses – we don’t want to store that in the address book anymore.

Schedule and Progress

• Next merge date: 11 19

• For information about channels, point people here – http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/channel/
• merge scripts are now automated
• branding changes needed to allow mainstream and ESR branding to exist side-by-side in the same source repository

Extension of the week

• Prevent Message Deletion via tag

Marketing Updates

• .me promo

Build / Release Update

• closed bug 798361 – Make release automation work with mock slaves
  • 18.0b1 and 17.0.1esr will be built using mock
• 17.0 + 17.0esr, 10.0.11esr released
• should not be getting ‘random red’ on Windows anymore

Web Update

• fixed several bugs with account provisioner last week related to bug 812101

• pushed out l10n for TB17 & ESR What’s New Pages
• Features page updates upcoming today asap
• planet.mozillamessaging.com is now at planet.mozilla.org/thunderbird
  • both in sync for now, and will have a redirect in place soon

Support and Documentation

1. Thanks to all who helped support Thunderbird in the employee-driven phase. On to the next phase post Thunderbird 17!

2. Thunderbird 17 Support Day tomorrow November 21, 2012 – Starting NOW, please fill in the Thunderbird 17 Support Day Etherpad with Thunderbird 17 support issues
3. 734 new support topics (687 1 week ago ) – Media:12-18November2012-TB-GS-Stats.png
4. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

•  :fallen has access to staging build environment to work through various build issues.

• Lightning is now being built along with Thunderbird to avoid the need for separate Lightning build infrastructure.
  • still working on getting releases running.

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

• [jhopkins] beta release timing
  • we will do our first beta on the second week, so no beta this week but beta next week instead.

Attendees

ludovic, rkent, dlech, mbanner, roland, wsmwk, jhopkins, irving, mconley, bwinton, jb, ambourcier, sancus, andreasn

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, November 20, 2012 09:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Remember to use headphones and mute yourself when not talking

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> irving (again?)

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
• Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to abourcier@mozilla.com that she can send them a shirt!

• David Lechner has been working on various patches for Thunderbird, including patches with tests.

Thunderbird Development

Feature Work

Modern Address Book

• More or less finished migrating the TB Mork connector over to the new interface

• Still need to re-jig / re-enable some tests for the new approach
• Hopefully starting some UI work later this week or early the next.

Schedule and Progress

• Next merge date: 19 11

• For information about channels, point people here – http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/channel/

• For 17 onwards, we will be relaxing the rules slightly for the stability & security updates to allow more bug fixes, assuming they don’t break the standard rules of no-L10n changes, not breaking extensions.

Beta Version

• Final beta out tomorrow

• This has the fix in for the downloading of emails multiple times bug, that has been seen with some imap servers & specific types of email.

ESR

• ESR 10 going to build sometime this week, with ESR 17 following when its ready.

Extension of the week

• Want to stop smoking try Quitomzilla

QA Updates

• Thunderbird 17 preparations and checking on crashes and making sure bugs have been filed.

Marketing Updates

• getting tools in line for TB17 release: blog post, what’s new page.

• working with Gandi registrar on a program: any TB user can get a free .ME email address from Nov 15th to Dec 31st, 2012
• finalizing Engagement contributor briefing

Build / Release Update

• Thunderbird 17.0b3 this week

• CentOS6/mock release configs patch completed for merge day next week bug 798361

Support and Documentation

1. Please help us test TB 17 beta. It’s our long term release for a year so we’d like its quality to be high and therefore we need to test it now with your add-ons, anti-virus and POP. Also TB17 beta fixes the spellcheck bug in TB 16, bug 790475

2. 687 new support topics (1186 1 week ago ) – Media:5-11november2012-gs-tb.png – Why fewer topics? Probably because we revamped en-US/kb/ask page in bug 751734 and bug 807146 (thanks to Vincent, Wayne, Matt, gozer and sancus for their help with this!)
3. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

• Who is the list of people provided on the Thunderbird by Mozilla? See the proposed governance model

• Are the ADU stats for Thunderbird going to be public?
  • We are working with the metrics team as to what can be made public
• Can we share income information of Thunderbird at as a whole?
  • JB will discuss internally.
• In the past, Beta has been the pre-release version of the software, but now it is more of an early-adopter, could we promote it as such?
  • Firefox doesn’t seem too concerned about branding Firefox Beta as something close to Firefox Release. Promoting the relationship between the two doesn’t seem to cause damage.

Attendees

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, November 13, 2012 09:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Remember to use headphones and mute yourself when not talking

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> irving

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
• Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to abourcier@mozilla.com that she can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

Feature Work

Modern Address Book

• Slow week – mostly complete moving my Mork connector over to the new connector interface

• Once that’s done, according to the roadmap, I’ll start hacking on the first iteration of the UI.

Schedule and Progress

• Next merge date: 19th November

• For information about channels, point people here – http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/channel/

Build / Release Update

• Thunderbird 17.0b2 released last week

• centos6/mock automation landed today. config changes will land for 18.0b1. bug 798361
• beta this week? not optimistic about it. please keep #build in the loop

Web Update

• Still deep in porting moz.org to bedrock

• worked on Mozillians a bit last week
• Automated Start Page code should be ready for testing by the end of this week
• committed to moving SUMOMO content over to SUMO for week of Dec 11

Support and Documentation

(SUMO offsite in San Francisco last week)

1. Please help us test TB 17 beta. It’s our long term release for a year so we’d like its quality to be high and therefore we need to test it now with your add-ons, anti-virus and POP. Also TB17 beta fixes the spellcheck bug in TB 16, bug 790475

2. 1186 new support topics (1280 two weeks ago ) – Media:Tbgs-29oct-4nov-2012.png
3. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Attendees

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, November 6, 2012 09:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Remember to use headphones and mute yourself when not talking

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> Ludovic

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
• Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to abourcier@mozilla.com that she can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

Feature Work

Modern Address Book

• Some low-level restructuring to encourage code-reuse

• Started moving Mork connector over to new interface
• Started to move over to using DeferredTask and Promises.

Instant Messaging

• a few patches for 17 in the queue (eg Fastamil interop for IM)

Schedule and Progress

• Next merge date: 20 November

• For information about channels, point people here – http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/channel/

• 16.0.2 and 10.0.10esr released, fixing further security issues mainly due to core code. Also fixed an IMAP download issue.

Beta Version

• Last week’s beta was delayed due to the security issues, should be getting a new beta this week.

Earlybird

• A spellcheck issue that exists in release bug 790475 has been patched in Daily and Earlybird.
  • Please test HTML mail with non-default fonts, and make sure that spellcheck behaves. Thanks!

QA Updates

• Figuring moztrap

Build / Release Update

• Thunderbird 17.0b2 ‘go to build’ expected today (bug 797853)
  • using bhearsum+rail’s new release automation web interface to start this build.
• Move to CentOS6 + mock build platform targetted at 18.0b1

Web Update

• internet is being difficult so I might not be on Vidyo

• fixed mozcom-cdn references on the website, I think I got them all, but if you see any errors related to “mozcom-cdn.mozilla.net” let me know.

Lightning Updates

• Philipp was at calconnect, lots of good stuff happening there:
  • Tested autodiscovery extension, good results for most servers

  • Tested delgation/counter patches, UI is good but not fully functional yet
  • Learned about some new and emerging standards
  • Changing ical.js backend format to the JSON format proposed by some calconnect folks

• Lightning 1.9 betas were out early, which worked pretty nicely.

• Lightning 1.9 betas has some small regressions, but nothing major
• Build System integration work is progressing, initial support will land soon

• Please test Lightning 1.9 betas extensively!

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

• The proposed Governance and Release Model document has been updated, and descriptions for the module owner and release drivers that have previously been discussed put in place. See the thread on tb-planning for more information.
  • We’re looking to “finalise” this as the way forward from the Thunderbird 17 release.

Attendees

andreasn, Irving, mconley, bwinton, florian, jb, Usul, standard8, Fallen

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, October 30, 2012 09:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Remember to use headphones and mute yourself when not talking

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> TBD

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
• Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to abourcier@mozilla.com that she can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

Feature Work

Modern Address Book

• Draft specification for contact provider connectors interface has been posted here.

• See mail to TB-planning.
• Now would be a great time to hear about feedback
• #ensemble on irc.mozilla.org is the project channel.

Instant Messaging

• App menu in chat tab automatically landing very soon

Schedule and Progress

• Next merge date: 19 Nov

• For information about channels, point people here – http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/channel/

Beta Version

Probably another beta this week. Today or tomorrow
Ludovic wonders about usage number on Beta. We’re at about 20K – this is a stable number. We currently have a very homogeneous group on Beta. Nobody using antivirus, on other providers than gmail, dovecot, only plaintext e-mail. We need new beta testers.

Extension of the week

No extension of the week

QA Updates

• Moved our test cases from Litmus to moztrap

• We lost 4 tests in the process.
• Post 17 wants to have a day when people can play with moztrap.
• Reason for the move to moztrap was that Litmus is going away.
• Working on bubbling up bugs for devs past 17 should get something out this week.

Marketing Updates

Question from Ludovic: What is going on with Twitter and Facebook pages. Do we have a volunteer to do this in the future? Ludovic will send an e-mail to the list about it.

Build / Release Update

Nothing to report

Web Update

• TB 16->17 Compat update done, will go out early — LAST COMPAT UPDATE YAY
  • Will write documentation on how this works for future uses.

• Engagement off-site last week. Tiring.

Support and Documentation

1. Support Meeting, Wednesday October 24, 5:30a.m. Pacific in the Thunderbird Vidyo room – Please fill out 24 Oct 2012 Support Meeting Etherpad and join us if you can

2. Thunderbird 16.0 Support Issues of the week :
   • Spell Checker broken in HTML email, workaround use “Variable Width” please add any missing issues to the TB16 support issues page – still not sure if TB16 compacting fixes have made a big difference

   • bug 803843 – IMAP mailfiles keep growing to gigabyte size / dovecot server
3. 1280 new support topics (1280 one week ago ) – Media:15-21October2012-GS-TB-Part1of2-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png, Media:15-21October2012-GS-TB-Part2of2-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png
4. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

Nothing to report.

Mark Banner will ping phillip and ask for weekly updates

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Attendees

standard8, usul, mconley, sancus, andreasn, rolandtango, kent, irving

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, October 23, 2012 09:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Remember to use headphones and mute yourself when not talking

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> TBD

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
• Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to abourcier@mozilla.com that she can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

Feature Work

Modern Address Book (Ensemble)

• Tentative roadmap published!

• Working on a draft specification for the connector API.
• In-progress document on the synchronization model
• More information on tags in Ensemble

Schedule and Progress

• Next merge date: 19 November

• For information about channels, point people here – http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/channel/

• We released 16.0.1 and 10.0.9esr in sync with the Firefox security updates last week.

• Mac crashers seem to have gone away in 16.0*

Beta Version

• 17.0b1 released last week.

Build / Release Update

• Builders will soon be building on Thunderbird relevant changes only, i.e. pushes to suite/ won’t cause Thunderbird builds but will still show up on tbpl.

Support and Documentation

1. Thunderbird 16.0 Support Issues – Thanks to Vincent and Wayne and all who helped with the support day and helped update the etherpad, please add any missing issues to the TB16 support issues page – nothing major and new so far, still not sure if TB16 compacting fixes have made a big difference

2. 1280 new support topics (1176 one week ago ) – Media:8-14Oct2012-Part1of2-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png, Media:8-14Oct2012-Part2of2-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png
3. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

• We will be documenting the process for getting bugs to 17 post-release very soon, and where the repositories will be etc.

• New Thunderbird bugs filed via the guided form will now go into an untriaged component. Thanks to Wayne for leading this initiative.

Attendees

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, October 16, 2012 09:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Remember to use headphones and mute yourself when not talking

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> TBD

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
• Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to abourcier@mozilla.com that she can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

Schedule and Progress

• Next merge date: DD MM

• For information about channels, point people here – http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/channel/

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

• What concerns do we have, if any, about implementing an Untriaged component for Thunderbird? For almost a year Firefox has an Untriaged component which is working well for them. It is where all bug reports go that have been filed by users doing https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided (which is what ALL users get if they don’t have bugzilla privileges). Such bugs no longer go to component=General. The relevant Firefox bugs are bug 713163 and bug 713165.

Attendees

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, October 10, 2012 09:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Remember to use headphones and mute yourself when not talking

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page