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	<title>Comments on: Crash Analysis: now in Open Source flavor</title>
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		<title>By: digi-tv</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.org/webdev/2008/04/21/crash-analysis-now-in-open-source-flavor/comment-page-1/#comment-104525</link>
		<dc:creator>digi-tv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Talkback collector server runs on Solaris 8 (and very likely won’t run on newer versions of Solaris), and the digester that processes the reports requires windows]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Talkback collector server runs on Solaris 8 (and very likely won’t run on newer versions of Solaris), and the digester that processes the reports requires windows</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Burns</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.org/webdev/2008/04/21/crash-analysis-now-in-open-source-flavor/comment-page-1/#comment-70734</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@morgamic

yes flash seems to be behind quite a few of the crashes I get, seems quite a spike in frequency from b4 to b5.

Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@morgamic</p>
<p>yes flash seems to be behind quite a few of the crashes I get, seems quite a spike in frequency from b4 to b5.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: morgamic</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.org/webdev/2008/04/21/crash-analysis-now-in-open-source-flavor/comment-page-1/#comment-70698</link>
		<dc:creator>morgamic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dave - good points, I am not very familiar with the Talkback system, but I think it&#039;s great that in both cases we&#039;ve made an effort to make that information public.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave &#8211; good points, I am not very familiar with the Talkback system, but I think it&#8217;s great that in both cases we&#8217;ve made an effort to make that information public.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Miller</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.org/webdev/2008/04/21/crash-analysis-now-in-open-source-flavor/comment-page-1/#comment-70690</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having our crash stats available to the public in itself isn&#039;t something new; we&#039;ve had crash reports available to the public for several years via http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/ and you can still see current crashes from Firefox and Thunderbird 2.x there.

The difference is that Talkback is proprietary software that we haven&#039;t been able to hand out the source for, or make any really useful changes to, so it&#039;s been mostly the same stale code for several years, and could only be included in official builds.  Breakpad is open and free, and anyone can make a build that includes it.

Socorro (the server-side component) is also open and free, and runs on modern hardware/software (thus making IT very happy).  The Talkback collector server runs on Solaris 8 (and very likely won&#039;t run on newer versions of Solaris), and the digester that processes the reports requires Windows (eek).  IT will be *very* *very* happy when all of the Talkback-enabled products are finally end-of-lifed so that we can get rid of those ancient servers. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having our crash stats available to the public in itself isn&#8217;t something new; we&#8217;ve had crash reports available to the public for several years via <a href="http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/" rel="nofollow">http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/</a> and you can still see current crashes from Firefox and Thunderbird 2.x there.</p>
<p>The difference is that Talkback is proprietary software that we haven&#8217;t been able to hand out the source for, or make any really useful changes to, so it&#8217;s been mostly the same stale code for several years, and could only be included in official builds.  Breakpad is open and free, and anyone can make a build that includes it.</p>
<p>Socorro (the server-side component) is also open and free, and runs on modern hardware/software (thus making IT very happy).  The Talkback collector server runs on Solaris 8 (and very likely won&#8217;t run on newer versions of Solaris), and the digester that processes the reports requires Windows (eek).  IT will be *very* *very* happy when all of the Talkback-enabled products are finally end-of-lifed so that we can get rid of those ancient servers. <img src='http://blog.mozilla.org/webdev/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AndersH</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.org/webdev/2008/04/21/crash-analysis-now-in-open-source-flavor/comment-page-1/#comment-70639</link>
		<dc:creator>AndersH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve installed flashblock just to get to see the crash reporter (instead of the application error dialog). But since I have the debugging tools installed, are there a form where I could upload a minidump (or whatever is needed) into Socorro?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve installed flashblock just to get to see the crash reporter (instead of the application error dialog). But since I have the debugging tools installed, are there a form where I could upload a minidump (or whatever is needed) into Socorro?</p>
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		<title>By: morgamic</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.org/webdev/2008/04/21/crash-analysis-now-in-open-source-flavor/comment-page-1/#comment-70612</link>
		<dc:creator>morgamic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andy - this is related to a bug about how Flash handles crashes when it&#039;s active;
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422308

Were some of your crashes happening when Flash was active?  We have seen a similar skew and it sucks, but is known and being worked on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy &#8211; this is related to a bug about how Flash handles crashes when it&#8217;s active;<br />
<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422308" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422308</a></p>
<p>Were some of your crashes happening when Flash was active?  We have seen a similar skew and it sucks, but is known and being worked on.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Burns</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.org/webdev/2008/04/21/crash-analysis-now-in-open-source-flavor/comment-page-1/#comment-70607</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crash reported only seems to fire on about 60% of my crashes with 3.0b5 on windows, if that&#039;s typical it will skew your numbers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crash reported only seems to fire on about 60% of my crashes with 3.0b5 on windows, if that&#8217;s typical it will skew your numbers.</p>
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