Percona Live Has No Code of Conduct

I am not at Percona Live this week because I opted to stay home after a crazy year of travel (41 talks in 11 different countries on 3 continents in the past year). However, I realized today that Percona Live has no Code of Conduct.

I will not be attending any Percona Live events until there is an acceptable Code of Conduct. MySQL is the world’s most popular open source database; the community deserves a Code of Conduct.

ETA: I have contacted Kortney, the conference organizer for Percona Live, and asked for a Code of Conduct to be put in place ASAP.

ETA: If you want to know why this is an issue, see

ETA: This is my personal statement, and not a statement of what any of my Mozilla colleagues may feel. Other colleagues, including employees under me, may choose to attend or even present at any events they wish. I personally do not feel comfortable at a conference with no Code of Conduct, this is not a reflection on the technical merits of any conference.

40 responses

  1. Fernando Mattera wrote on :

    What happen?

    1. Sheeri wrote on :

      Fernando, pictures of a booth are floating around that suggest a company’s employees are creating a sexualized atmosphere.

      1. Fernando Mattera wrote on :

        (Plz, show me some pictures…)

  2. Valerie Parham-Thompson wrote on :

    Thank you.

  3. Ana wrote on :

    Thank you!

  4. Allen Kinnard wrote on :

    Sheeri, I was very sad when I realized you where not going to be at the conference this year. It make me very sad when someone allows politics to ruin an event for themselves. But it makes me even sadder when they try to torpedo an event they did not even bother to attend. As someone that has attended this conference for the past 5 years, I have to say this was by far the best we have had. It was awesome to see Oracle back and have the community here in all of it’s incarnations. There was no animosity between versions of MySQL and actually a lot of praise going from each project to the others. It makes you just seem like the typical anger old guy yelling at the kids to get off his lawn when they are playing across the street.

    I am asking you, please calm down, try to burry the hatched with what ever your issues are and be a force for good with in the community instead of making waves, the quite honestly we don’t need with in our community.


    1. Sheeri wrote on :

      This is not about technical content, nor is is about politics between Percona and Oracle or whoever. This is about the fact that there are things going on that would violate a Code of Conduct, if there was one, and make the conference more hostile to women, in an industry that is already having difficulty with diversity.

      I’m trying to be a force for good – for the good of women in tech everywhere.

      1. Allen Kinnard wrote on :

        By commenting in public and trying to cause a storm. No Sheeri, that is passive aggressive behavior at it’s worst. You know everyone on the community panel and in the organization of this conference. If you have an issue you should take it to them. I am sure everyone would would listen and welcome your feed back. But doing it in the manner is just sad.

        Like I said, please be a force for good with in our community. Posts like this are NOT a force for good.

        1. Sheeri wrote on :

          I have updated my post – I emailed Kortney privately and asked her to work on a Code of Conduct for Percona Live ASAP.

          I am trying to cause *awareness* about this issue, but not necessarily a storm. Frankly this should be something that everyone agrees with! I think it’s ridiculous that folks think it’s OK for a conference to NOT have a Code of Conduct. Yes, it SHOULD be common sense, but it is not.

          I was made aware of this problem on Tuesday, and only blogged about it now, on the last day of the conference. If I wanted to create a storm I would have called for the company to be banned from the expo hall or something days ago.

        2. Joe j wrote on :

          OK … so she’s passive-aggressive.

          What does this have to do with the content of the posting — please share your comments on that.

  5. Noel McKinney wrote on :

    Thank you. Such behavior is completely unacceptable, no excuses.

  6. Serge Frezefond wrote on :

    Sheeri, Percona Live this year was for me the best MySQL user Conference ever.
    A very Friendly Atmosphere. No futile discussion about someone going to crash everything.
    A lot of good technical discussions between Percona, Oracle, MariaDB, SkySQL, MySQL Users.
    Robert Hodges spoke about fair competition and I think this is the key point.
    Peter talked about we should love each other. I agree we should respect each other.

    Regarding the sexist side I have seen nothing of that sort. People are free at Percona Live as anywhere and there are just grown up adults. I personally have just seen very professional attitude. But I agree that pictures should never been interpreted lightly. We should never draw conclusion as there is always a context and personal choices that we should respect. Words matter much more and I have not heard of any comment of that sort.

    1. Sheeri wrote on :

      Serge – at least two other women have complained, one to the company directly, and one reported that there was flirting going on. Which is completely inappropriate.

      Since I’m not there, I can’t say anything about that, only what I hear. However, it does not sound like a place *I* would feel comfortable in. I’m glad for you that you feel comfortable and safe, but personally I think anything of a sexually charged nature anywhere in a conference, including an Expo Hall, is inappropriate. It is not where I want to be, and it is not where I will be unless I can be assured that there is a Code of Conduct where I can take steps.

  7. Shlomi Noach wrote on :

    Hi Sheeri,

    First, and as a background discussion for this answer, I would like to refer you and the readers to what’s known as “Donglegate”, a recent lose-lose-lose-lose situation in PyCon.
    Kindly read it through (tons of references, no specific link I can recommend).

    Now, back to our case.

    You relate to something that took place at the conference. I of course know what this is. I have publicly expressed my opinion on this (to fellow attendees), as have others.
    I don’t know that there was flirting; I do know it made me uncomfortable enough that I (male) intentionally avoided going to that expo booth directly because of this.
    It just did not appeal to me, I was unease getting near there; other felt just fine and saw no problem. I can definitely understand man or women who have reservations on this: I am among them.

    So I spoke to some people around, and thought to myself: “We might want to have a Code of Conduct”.
    I mean, the conference is *still on*, actually, so *not right now* obviously.

    At this stage I wish to also note that I am acting as Chairman for this conference.
    This should put my writings above in an entirely new perspective.

    Code of Conduct may well formulate for Percona Live conferences (I don’t know that I will be Chairman in the future, but I am now).
    If it formulates, it will not be so because of your blog, but because the thought has formulated early in this conference.

    Like the woman from “donglegate”, you were quick to publish (your perfectly valid, personal thoughts) without first contacting any of the organizers of the event.
    You have not contacted the chairman of the event (myself) although we have (and will most certainly continue to have) a very direct and friendly connection, so in this respect I have to protest.

    I would have much more appreciated it if you contacted me or other organizers first.
    I would also have appreciated it if you did not start by saying “I will not be attending any Percona Live events until there is an acceptable Code of Conduct.”
    Again, this is your personal valid opinion, but it creates so much drama and negativeness. Would be great to have a friendly advice and comment. I happen to know both myself and the organizers are very open to hear anyone’s opinion!

    Thanks, and take care

    1. Sheeri wrote on :

      I am well aware that whether or not Percona forms a Code of Conduct will likely have nothing to do with my blog post. Which is why I’m surprised at the outrage. I’m expressing my opinion, which in the grand scheme of things, is one of very many. But everyone seems to think that I’m “creating a storm”…..I never said anyone else should boycott Percona Live, just that I would. I also never said that the organizers wouldn’t have listened. That it happened at all is shocking to me.

      I had several conversations in private and on Twitter/Facebook (public/semi-public) with attendees that felt uncomfortable. I saw pictures on Tuesday and felt uncomfortable. The expo hall is small, and I know the organizers all saw what was going on. You yourself said you felt uncomfortable, why did *you*, as the conference chair, choose to let it go, thus exposing everyone who came after you to that same uncomfortableness?

      By making it public I was raising awareness about this issue, intentionally for folks who ARE NOT the organizers. The organizers already knew. Hopefully by pointing this out, *other* conferences will think twice about having a code of conduct. I know I will for the future conferences I organize and attend. I have already looked towards Oracle for their Code of Conduct (they actually have several).

      Talking about sexism isn’t “spreading negativity” any more than talking about the Boston Marathon bombings is. It happens and it’s real and people need to know about it and be conscious of it to prevent it BEFORE it happens.

      1. Shlomi Noach wrote on :

        Hi Sheeri,

        i did not relate to any message about sexism you may have passed.
        I relate to the negative form in which you bring this up (which is your right). Your title “Percona Live has No Code of Conduct” reads to me (and I’m not a native English speaker) like as accusation, in a negative spirit. I’m saying this is is not as friendly as, say, “Calling to Establish a Code of Conduct for Percona Live”. As also follows in your post.

        You have organized conferences before. Have all of them had Code of Conduct? Do all the User Group meetings you organize have a Code of Conduct? Would it be nice of me to post a blog titled “Sheeri has Organized Conferences With No Code of Conducts”, and say how I would never ever attend such a conference of yours until you ASAP change the way you organize events? That I would never come to a User Group Meeting of yours until Sheeri meets up with my expectation to present a Code of Conduct?

        Do not confuse my criticism on the way you choose to express your thoughts (which I have) with any criticism on you trying to set things right in terms of conduct, behavior etc. (which I have none).

        I do not speak for any other commenter on this post and so cannot answer for anyone.

        As per your question, I am not an American lawyer, nor an American, nor a lawyer. I saw no laws broken, I saw women dressed in orange tight dresses. This made me uncomfortable; not so that I would impose my personal uncomfort on them. Seeing them, say, at the Lobby, would not cause me any discomfort, so let’s put things into perspective. I think they chose the wrong appearance for a Database Geek conference. I was in the mindset to discuss this further at a later time, and saw no “clear and immediate danger”, so to speak. I should also add that I related to this with sarcasm (which one may also see as a form of humor).

        I stress again that I have no argument with your opinion or any other person’s opinion on this. I have argument in the way by which you present this. “And I hope no one ever got hurt in any of your conferences or user group meetings where there may have been no Code of Conduct.” is something I can say to you, would be valid, be true, but not at the kind of communication I would like to have with you.

        I can imagine you were upset after speaking to your friends; any person is entitled to be upset and I also appreciate it.


    2. Valerie wrote on :


      Thank you as always for your thoughtful take on things. I am sorry that I did not realize you we’re the chair–I’m sure this was announced, so my bad. Several people involved with conference planning were aware there was discomfort from some attendees, but there was no action or statement given. Sometimes it is necessary to call people out in the public commons to encourage resolution.


      1. Shlomi Noach wrote on :

        Peace indeed 🙂

        I always regret commenting online. For that matter, once Sheeri and myself moved the discussion to private channel it was so much easier to just understand one another.

        To be honest, I don’t see being Chairman as being in charge of dressing code or being the police around; but still a point through which some information should flow.

        For me, it took quite a few days to establish some sort of opinion on this; and this is my private opinion, which may well not apply for all. I’ve given a lot of thought and discussed with several people. I don’t know yet if, how and when I’ll express my own opinion, but one thing is clear: there is no consensus around this. And reading Alex’ comment still furthers calls for thought.

        I’m happy to discuss further, but prefer to do so in private; the WWW is not always our good friend.

        1. Valerie wrote on :

          Thank you, Shlomi.

          I believe it’s important for us to discuss this as a community, but I respect your request. I’ve sent you a note via LInkedIn with some thoughts.


          1. Shlomi Noach wrote on :

            Hi Valerie,

            I’ve answered in detail to your mail a few hours ago; have now resent in case you never got it.


  8. Jim Noble wrote on :

    What happened? Did you go to the conference? Were you harassed there?

    Do they allow booths to have women in them?

    I don’t understand the issue… perhaps some pictures would help.

  9. Jim Noble wrote on :

    Does this “requirement” to have a code of conduct not reflect a small subset of people?

    This seems more like a witch hunt, similar to the British World War I “Order of the White Feather” to me… If the conference has staff, and there is a police department, what difference does a code of conduct make? If someone does something illegal, call the police. It’s always worked in the past… at least for all of the women I know…

    It seems to me that the “ada initiative” people are very overzealous, and have an ax to grind with anything that is remotely sexual, regardless if it is appropriate or not. I would be wary of tying yourself to an organization with such low scruples.

  10. Mark Grennan wrote on :


    You where missed.

    I was at the booth I believe you are speaking about and I was a bit shocked. Their booth was more the kind of thing I’d expect to see at DefCon in Las Vegas then Persona Live. I was even more shocked when I learned these where full time employees not just “Booth Babes”/Models hired for the show.

    Maybe next year you want be so warn down. I hope even if Percona Live doen’t adopt a Code of Conduct you will attend. If anything like this happens next year I’ll protest with you.

    Your energy is needed. Please return.

    1. Sheeri wrote on :

      Mark, I appreciate your support. Frankly I’m feeling as though the negative comments here and the almost 20 downvotes on Planet MySQL are sending me a message. I do plenty for the community without attending Percona Live, or any other big MySQL Conference. I spoke at 40 conferences in 11 countries last year (since May 1, so after Percona Live), plus MySQL Connect. I’ve been leaning more towards focusing on different audiences, those who don’t have a ton of different MySQL experts at their disposal (like Percona Live and MySQL Connect do). Maybe this is a message to continue doing that.

      The community will always have my energy, whether it’s teaching people MySQL through or the podcasts at, and through speaking at conferences. It just may not be at “the” conferences. Maybe by the time I finish teaching the next generation of more diverse MySQL DBAs, the community will be more open to welcoming them.

      1. Mark Grennan wrote on :

        So your going to continue speaking. Good, And we always have OurSQL. (May it never end.)

        If a MySQL DBA could go to any conference in the USA. Where would you send them? Maybe I’ll make a change too.

        1. Sheeri wrote on :

          Mark – The fact is that both Percona Live and MySQL Connect are the best conferences for a MySQL DBA to learn more about MySQL. But there are many folks who are doing DBA stuff in addition to their other job, or folks that can benefit from DBA knowledge (for example, systems administrators who support corporate blogs that run on MySQL, or developers who write queries against MySQL). In the last year I focused on those folks; systems administration conferences and developer conferences do not have a lot of MySQL expertise around, so I worked on filling those gaps. I don’t think the best way for a MySQL DBA to learn more would be to attend a developer conference where there are only a few MySQL-related sessions. But I wanted to teach a different audience.

          As much as I missed people and they missed me, nobody would say “that conference was OK, the technical content would have been better if Sheeri spoke at it”. Because there are fantastic speakers there, people who know more about MySQL than I ever will. I choose to *speak* at events besides “the big MySQL conferences” but the fact remains that “the big MySQL conferences” are the best places for MySQL DBAs to learn more.

          I had to make a list of all the talks I gave in the last year, from May 1 2012 – April 30 2013, and here they are – I’ve tagged them as “db”, “sysadmin” and “developer” to highlight what the specialty of the event was:
          Wed 10 April, Back Bay LISA User Group meeting, “MySQL and Puppet” – sysadmin
          Sun 17 March, Open Database Camp at Northeast LinuxFest, “MySQL Backups” – db/sysadmin/developer
          Thu 28 Feb, Confoo, “Are You Getting the Best Out of Your MySQL Indexes?” – developer
          Thu 28 Feb, Confoo, “Different MySQL Forks for Different Folks” – developer
          Fri 22 Feb, Scale11x, “Are You Getting the Best Out of Your MySQL Indexes?” – sysadmin/developer
          Wed 13 Feb, RMOUG Training Days, “Are You Getting the Best Out of Your MySQL Indexes?” – database
          Tue 12 Feb, RMOUG Training Days, “Backing Up MySQL” – database
          Mon 28 Jan, Linux Conf Australia, “Getting Started With a Podcast” – sysadmin/developer
          Mon 28 Jan, Linux Conf Australia, “MySQL Security” – sysadmin/developer
          Mon 28 Jan, Linux Conf Australia, “The Art of Cat Herding: How to Manage Geeks” – sysadmin/developer
          Mon 14 Jan, Boston MySQL User Group, “MySQL Security”

          Thu 8 Nov, CodeConnexx, “MySQL Query Optimization with EXPLAIN” – developer
          Fri 9 Nov, CodeConnex, “The Art of Cat Herding: How to Manage Geeks” – developer
          Wed Sep 26, Nagios World, “Alerting on MySQL with Nagios” – sysadmin
          Sat 29 Sept, MySQL Connect, “Keynote: Community Perspective—Why Upgrade to MySQL 5.6” – db
          Sat 29 Sept, MySQL Connect, “Google-Hacking MySQL” – db
          Sun 30 Sept, MySQL Connect, “Database Scaling at Mozilla” – db
          Sun 12 Aug, Northeast PHP, “Getting Rid of Scheduled Tasks Using MySQL Events” – developer
          Sat 11 Aug, Northeast PHP, “Are You Getting the Best Out of Your MySQL Indexes” – developer
          Sat 11 Aug, Northeast PHP, “Better JOINs and Subqueries” – developer
          Mon 16 July, 2012 ACE LATAM north tour Costa Rica, “MySQL Security” – db
          Mon 16 July, 2012 ACE LATAM north tour Costa Rica, “Optimizing MySQL Queries using EXPLAIN” – db
          Fri 13 July, 2012 ACE LATAM north tour Honduras, “MySQL security” – db
          Fri 13 July, 2012 ACE LATAM north tour Honduras, “Get rid of cron scripts using MySQL events” – db
          Wed 11 July, 2012 ACE LATAM north tour Guatemala, “MySQL Security” – db
          Wed 11 July, 2012 ACE LATAM north tour Guatemala, “Get Rid of Cron Scripts Using MySQL Events” – db
          Mon 9 July, 2012 ACE LATAM north tour Trinidad, “Ideas for DBAs” – db
          Mon 9 July, 2012 ACE LATAM north tour Trinidad, “The Art of Cat Herding: How to Manage Geeks” – db
          Fri 6 July, 2012 ACE LATAM north tour Ecuador, “MySQL Security” – db
          Fri 6 July, 2012 ACE LATAM north tour Ecuador, “Optimizing MySQL Queries using EXPLAIN” – db
          Wed 4 July, 2012 ACE LATAM north tour Columbia, “Getting Rid of Cron Scripts Using MySQL Events” – db
          Wed 4 July, 2012 ACE LATAM north tour Columbia, “Optimizing MySQL Queries using EXPLAIN” – db
          Wed 27 June, LATAM Conference on MySQL, NoSQL and Cloud Technologies, “Alerting on MySQL with Nagios” – db
          Thu 28 June, LATAM Conference on MySQL, NoSQL and Cloud Technologies, “MySQL Security” – db
          Sat June 7, Southeast LinuxFest, “Intermediate MySQL Administration” – sysadmin/developer
          Fri June 6, Southeast LinuxFest, “MySQL Security” – sysadmin/developer
          Sat 30 May, OUG Harmony, “Optimizing MySQL JOINs and Subqueries” – db
          Sat 30 May, OUG Harmony, “MySQL Security” – db
          Wed 16 May, Central Virginia MySQL User Group, “MySQL Security” – db
          Sat 12 May, Professional IT Community Conference, “Getting Started with a Podcast” – sysadmin
          Sat 12 May, Professional IT Community Conference, “Securing MySQL” – sysadmin

          It’s a long list, but it has a lot of audience diversity, and I’m proud of that.

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  12. lynn Ferrante wrote on :

    Sheeri, I support your suggestion for a code of conduct.

  13. Mat Keep ( wrote on :

    ignore the “down votes” on planet – the amount of rational voting that happes there, versus company / political “allegiances” demonstrates it is not an accurate measure of sentiment – more blind stupidity in some cases.

    If you and others feel so uncomfortable that you exclude yourselves, then something has to be done, and there is no room for debate. Thankfully the conference organizers at Percona are, I believe, of the highest ethical standards, and I’m sure will respond quickly to address concerns and implement a code of conduct

  14. Jeremy Cole wrote on :


    I was perhaps the first to note publicly the situation at that booth, and found it completely unacceptable. However, I also find that this blog post is exceptionally poorly worded and poorly positioned, and is unacceptable as well. I think, if you want to speak out on this subject it is a fine thing to do, and you have every right to do so, and I will in fact support it 100%. However, I think this post and its content does more to hurt your cause than to help it. If you are interested in helping the cause, you should use more tact and more care in how you approach these public communications.

    IMHO, that is why you are getting such a negative reaction, not because of the situation, nor because of who you are, or even what you’re suggesting — just 100% *how* you suggested it.



    1. Sheeri wrote on :

      I have posted in other places that I was upset, after two days of seeing this and not seeing anyone stop it. It snowballed within me, and erupted at this post. Every single one of the women I know at Percona Live mentioned how awful this was, and at the last one it was too much. I could edit the post but that is unfair, so I leave it up. We are all human; when my mistake is pointed out I have admitted it.

      The fact that a sexualized atmosphere was noticed early on and nobody stopped it – even though it made the conference chair himself uncomfortable – is extremely concerning to me.

      1. Shlomi Noach wrote on :

        Hi Sheeri, I disagree with your above interpretation of what I noticed, and we have both still to discuss my experience. We have not, as yet. Therefore please do not attribute to me things unless what I specifically said: something made me uncomfortable enough that I didn’t go to said booth.

        I’m very happy to continue discussion privately, before flame arises to no good.

  15. Alex Alexander wrote on :

    Sheeri ,

    Alex Alexander here the CEO and Co-Founder of AccelerationDB what you are referring as code of conduct is actally you are trying to control what our associates can wear. This is the 21 st century not 17th we are a progressive company that strongly supports diversity, open door policies, and equal emplyment at work. We strive to become The Emplyer of Choice in Silicon Valley. We will not control what our employees will wear. Anyone should be able to wear what they want and should not be judged and verbally attacked creating a hostile work environment or a violation of ADEA Act. Would you subject me to so called code of conduct if I chose to wear a dress ? Would you control what type of dress I wear?

    PS: I live in The Castro and LOVE it. Next time you are in San Fran be sure to visit Castro I believe you will have a lot of fun applying your code of conduct

    Everyone at Percona were wonderful, great talks, great people.

  16. Robert Arnold wrote on :

    This post is a typical example of an aggressive Geek Feminism, which apparently is raising in Tech communities. Some similar issues happened on OSCON :
    So called feminists attack woman for how they look and what they wear.
    Probably it is time to establish Geek Anti-Feminism movement?

  17. BUSH wrote on :

    Your “Fitsum, nab lbKa temeles …before it is too late” threat, however, does not work with me as I feel confident of my spiritual position to continue the struggle to the end.

  18. Andrea wrote on :

    I was there and found the ladies you guys are picking on rather refreshing and fun. I did not hear a single complain from any other woman I spoke to!
    Please do not take the stand of “for the good of women” I for one does not need anyone to protect me from what I think was a nice bunch of ladies.

    A would approve a code a conduct that would allow anyone to freely express themself however they want without anyone critising them.

    This is after all a tradeshow, not a prison.

  19. Laine Campbell wrote on :

    I was one of the people offended by this. I have a lot going on in my head about the specific incident, about the standards of conduct and about the responses to this post that were by and large from men. I have been quiet because I had 10 people at the conference, and then a 3 day company gathering to coordinate and lead, but my silence has nothing to do with not wanting to speak up. I will be providing my own feedback via planet MySQL over the next week.

    In the meantime, I’d like to point out that attacking tone, instead of content, is a classic derailment technique when discussing sexism, racism and many other oppression based “isms”. That doesn’t wash. If you only have the tone to discuss, you have no point being part of the discussion.

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  21. Rachel W wrote on :

    I must say- as a woman myself I am disappointed in what you have written. I work with AcceleractionDB. You have clearly voiced how yourself and others
    have felt uncomfortable, yet at the same time there are plenty of technical conferences with women at booths specifically to draw people in. Yes, they are friendly and personable and try to draw people in to a booth by talking to them when they walk by, both men and women alike. This is commonplace at shows.
    Don’t dare make the mistake of women being talkative and friendly for “flirting” as you mentioned. I find that statement highly offensive regardless of what conference you’re at or what company you are representing. There was no “flirting” from our booth at the Percona conference and my colleagues and I behaved in a professional manner and in the best interest of AcceleractionDB. You referenced which is absurd. There was no harassment or anything close to pornographic going on. How dare you reference that as a validation for your blog, especially when you weren’t even there to form an opinion for yourself. As for the women who objected their opinions in person at our booth- the first words out of their mouths were verbally abusive and yelling loud enough for anyone to hear. That is unprofessional and inexcusable. I personally felt uncomfortable hearing a colleague being yelled at and I have felt equally attacked through this posting and your tweets.

    I’m proud of being a woman and will not change into charcoals and blacks and manly suits in order to carry on a professional conversation or to be treated with respect. Our goal was to have fun and draw attention to our company. We managed both.

    Why do we have to tear each other apart as women? We have all worked hard to be where we are, and we should be standing by each other to build each other up and support one another.
    I would not stand for anyones rights being violated or disregarded and am sorry our clothing at PerconaLive made you feel this way. Everyone is entitled to their own way of thinking, but publicly bringing others down is not the way to do it.

  22. Female DBA #32 wrote on :

    As a woman in tech for > 20 years, I find the whole issue overblown, old and tiring. I mean really, if a bunch of women dress that way and as a result the company is not taken seriously, revenues suffer and the issue resolves itself. Tech companies like every other company is out capitalist society will succumb to the same market forces. Bad marketing decisions are not limited to any sector. I’m not sure if the greater crime here is showing a little skin or dressing in bad flashback style from the 70’s.