{"id":1009,"date":"2012-07-17T23:00:07","date_gmt":"2012-07-18T03:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/?p=1009"},"modified":"2012-07-17T23:00:07","modified_gmt":"2012-07-18T03:00:07","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2012-07-17","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/1009","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2012-07-17"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2012-07-17<\/h1>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2012-07-10\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2012-07-10\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2012-07-24&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2012-07-24 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2012&amp;month=07&amp;day=17&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, July 17, 2012 16:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to use headphones and mute yourself when not talking<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mibbit.com\/chat\/?server=irc.mozilla.org&amp;channel=%23maildev\" rel=\"nofollow\">#maildev<\/a> on IRC.<\/p>\n<p>Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\" title=\"Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\">communications<\/a> page\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>bwinton<\/b> (roland owes me one! \u00a0\ud83d\ude09\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/calendar\/embed?mode=agenda&amp;src=5m2lftdbbr6c3dr9s3foivs278%40group.calendar.google.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes\/additions.\n<li> Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to abourcier@mozilla.com that she can send them a shirt!<\/p>\n<p>JB nominates the tb-planning list.  Since there are 180 of them, we&#8217;ll be sending a virtual t-shirt to the list. \u00a0\ud83d\ude42\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Features\/Thunderbird\">Feature Work<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Thunderbird\/Test_Pilot\" title=\"Features\/Thunderbird\/Test Pilot\">Test Pilot<\/a> <\/span><\/h5>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Thunderbird\/BigFiles\" title=\"Features\/Thunderbird\/BigFiles\">Filelink (Big Files)<\/a> <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Box.com support has landed, disabled, in comm-central, and was uplifted to comm-aurora yesterday.\n<ul>\n<li> Brian King is working to get it functional and tested. If it gets to a satisfactory state, we&#8217;ll enable it for TB 16.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Thunderbird\/Instant_messaging_in_Thunderbird\" title=\"Features\/Thunderbird\/Instant messaging in Thunderbird\">Instant Messaging<\/a> <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Indexing of IM conversations in gloda on the fly landed recently on trunk, it&#8217;s now possible to find IM conversations immediately without restarting.\n<li> That change, along with presence information in email headers and new messages notifications, was also pushed to aurora so it will be part of Thunderbird 15.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Google Summer of Code Projects <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> App Tabs for Thunderbird  <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.google-melange.com\/gsoc\/project\/google\/gsoc2012\/trungnn\/8001\" rel=\"nofollow\">Overview<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/trungnn-gsoc2012.tumblr.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Blog<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=761727\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 761727<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&#8211; Session Persistence\u00a0: DONE\u00a0\ud83d\ude00 -&gt; going to improve App Tab UI during the next week.\n<\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Improving GMail Integration <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.google-melange.com\/gsoc\/project\/google\/gsoc2012\/atuljangra\/31001\" rel=\"nofollow\">Overview<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=721316\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 721316<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Get ISPDB into Production <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.google-melange.com\/gsoc\/project\/google\/gsoc2012\/sergio_ufes\/24002\" rel=\"nofollow\">Overview<\/a> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=SummerOfCode\/2012\/ISPDB\" rel=\"nofollow\">Status reports<\/a>\n<li> Finishing <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=543614\" rel=\"nofollow\">Automated Checks<\/a> feature.\n<li> I&#8217;ll start to work on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=526468\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 526468 &#8211; Can&#8217;t enter several documentation URLs<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> &#8216;No reply&#8217; reminder for Thunderbird <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.google-melange.com\/gsoc\/project\/google\/gsoc2012\/didihl\/9001\" rel=\"nofollow\">Overview<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/code.google.com\/p\/reply-manager\/wiki\/WeeklyStatusReport\" rel=\"nofollow\">Status reports<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/DIdiHL\/comm-central\/commits\/reply-manager\" rel=\"nofollow\">Commits<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule and Progress <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Next merge date: <\/b> 27th August\n<li> For information about channels, point people here &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mozilla.org\/thunderbird\/channel\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.mozilla.org\/thunderbird\/channel\/<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Beta Version <\/span><\/h5>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> ESR <\/span><\/h5>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Extension of the week <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> MozCamp preparation continues\n<ul>\n<li> Most of the people who have been active have recieved an invitation.\n<ul>\n<li> If you didn&#8217;t get yours, please get in touch with Anne-Marie.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Working on Friday&#8217;s Thunderbird sessions.\n<ul>\n<li> It would be helpful for the Addon-Editors if we could figure out what times we want.\n<li> All Friday.  A couple of timeslots on Saturday and Sunday, time depending on MozCamp organizers.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Build \/ Release Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Thunderbird 14.0 and 10.0.6esr on deck for release\n<li> Working on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=772446\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 772446<\/a> &#8211; Migrate desktop linux firefox builds to mock slaves.  Thunderbird will also benefit from these changes.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Fiddling with release stuff.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> At a SUMO event.\n<li> Will fill this out later.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> It&#8217;s hard to view Thunderbird as a business, because the business aspects are quite closed.\n<ul>\n<li> On the other hand, the same is true with Firefox.\n<li> rkent feels that the problem with Thunderbird is a success as a product, but a failure as a business.\n<ul>\n<li> But the developers aren&#8217;t being taken away because it&#8217;s a business failure, it&#8217;s that it doesn&#8217;t drive the Mozilla mission.\n<li> And that&#8217;s a failure to find the right organizational home, not a business failure.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> rkent feels that Thunderbird&#8217;s community strategy conflicts with Thunderbird&#8217;s Mozilla&#8217;s strategy?\n<ul>\n<li> (For instance) Mozilla seems to view the user as a single person checking their email casually at home.\n<li> But the typical Thunderbird user is someone trying to get something done at the office.\n<li> It seems to bwinton like the new direction for Thunderbird lines up better with the community&#8217;s direction.\n<ul>\n<li> Less change, and the community will focus on the things that are important to it.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> And then time kind of ran out, but we all feel that rkent should post to tb-planning to continue the discussion.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees <\/span><\/h3>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2012-07-17\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2012-07-17<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2012-07-17 &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Thunderbird Meeting Details\u00a0: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) How to dial-in Remember to use headphones and mute yourself when not talking Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[40],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1009"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1009"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1009\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1009"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1009"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1009"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}