{"id":105,"date":"2009-01-07T00:00:43","date_gmt":"2009-01-07T04:00:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/105"},"modified":"2009-01-07T00:00:43","modified_gmt":"2009-01-07T04:00:43","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2009-01-06","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/105","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2009-01-06"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-01-06<\/h1>\n<h3>From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-12-30\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-12-30\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-01-13&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-01-13 (not yet written)\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2009&amp;month=01&amp;day=06&amp;hour=17&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2009&amp;month=01&amp;day=06&amp;hour=17&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\">Tuesday, Jan 6th, 17:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Agenda\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda <\/span> <\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>bienvenu<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida for schedule changes\/additions.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Calls_For_Help\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Calls For Help <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p><a name=\"Action_Items\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p><a name=\"New\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> New <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"Open\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Open <\/span> <\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> clarkbw &#8211; send mail about drivers about triaging 3.0b1 wanted this week\n<li> dmose &#8211; triage [tb3needs] bugs\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Closed\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Closed <\/span> <\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> dmose &#8211; Draw up a <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/User:Dmose:Straw_Man_Schedule\" title=\"Straw Man Schedule\">straw man schedule<\/a> for shipping one month after Firefox\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Thunderbird_3_Beta_2\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b2\" title=\"Thunderbird 3.0b2\">Thunderbird 3 Beta 2<\/a> <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> For reference, Gecko 1.9.1b3: Jan 13 Code Freeze, Jan 15 QA, Jan 26 Release according to their plan.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> clarkbw is release driver\n<li> gozer is build engineer\n<li> Proposed: Slushy string freeze from: Monday 2nd February 23:59 PST\n<li> Proposed: Firm string freeze and slushy Code freeze from: Thursday 5th February 23:59 PST\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Blockers\/Wanted\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;target_milestone=3.0b1&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;target_milestone=3.0b1&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b2 &#8211; blocking<\/a>: 77 (+2)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;long_desc_type=substring&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=tb3needs&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=exact&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=exact&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=noop&amp;type0-0-0=noop&amp;value0-0-0=\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;long_desc_type=substring&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=tb3needs&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=exact&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=exact&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=noop&amp;type0-0-0=noop&amp;value0-0-0=\">TB 3 Needs<\/a> (6)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b2 &#8211; wanted<\/a>: 31 (+4)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Proposed Blocking\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3?\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3?\">Proposed Blockers (b? + milestone)<\/a>: 9 (0)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Fixed:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b2 &#8211; blocking<\/a>: 21 (+3)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b2 &#8211; wanted<\/a>: 13 (+2)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> We need to drive bugs with large string changes, e.g., archive, auto config, activity manager. Some way of marking bugs needing strings would be useful.\n<ul>\n<li> Archive is getting reviewed now\n<li> Activity Manager is also under review\n<li> AutoConfig is further away from review &#8211; will try to get it closer this week.\n<li> Multiple e-mail addresses and tags needs strings.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Thunderbird_3\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 3 <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap\" title=\"DevRoadmap\">Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"QA_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA Updates <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> topcrashes\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=471492\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=471492\">bug 471492<\/a> crash [@ nsImapMailFolder::CopyMessagesOffline]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=422907\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=422907\">bug 422907<\/a> nsMsgLocalMailFolder::GetTrashFolder (rootFolder is null)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=470804\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=470804\">bug 470804<\/a> NS_GetInnermostURI (CAPS?) (TB2) (patch landed on trunk &#8211; not 1.9.1 or 1.8.x)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=470808\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=470808\">bug 470808<\/a> nsProxyEventObject::CallMethod (imap)\n<li> <strike><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=470835\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=470835\">bug 470835<\/a> nsMsgLocalMailFolder::AddMessage (should be fixed in 12-23 nightly)<\/strike> (optimistically gone)\n<\/ul>\n<li> bugday, <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-01-08\" title=\"2009-01-08\">first of 2009<\/a> focused on trunk (we&#8217;re losing ground on that front of the triage war)\n<\/ul>\n<p>Uncomfirmed bug count rose over the holidays and needs to be driven down.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> litmus: we can now get reports of updated\/new litmus tests for Thunderbird only, which will help us to manage updating of tests\n<li> crash-stats group has put up <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/crash-stats.mozilla.com\/mtbf\/of\/Thunderbird\/development\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/crash-stats.mozilla.com\/mtbf\/of\/Thunderbird\/development\">MTBF reports<\/a> for milestone and development releases.  It&#8217;s still a work in progress. And there is a bug outstanding that causes 3.0b1 (and b2pre?) to not be shown.  On the development view, MTBF of 3.0b2pre is stated as over 10x better than 3.0b1pre, but crash rate appears to be about the same.  Also note the data may not be accurate for the entire user population, as we think it doesn&#8217;t included data from users who have no crashes.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/konigsberg.mozilla.org\/crash-stats.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/konigsberg.mozilla.org\/crash-stats.html\">crash stats helper<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Roundtable\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Davida has been thinking about Post TB 3 issues.\n<li> Dmose has proposed straw man schedule for TB 3 &#8211; blocking bug count needs to go down quickly in order for it to be realistic.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Status_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"davida\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> davida <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"dmose\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> dmose <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> very fragmented 3-day week, including&#8230;\n<ul>\n<li> junk\/unknown status discussion\n<li> tb3 driving work\n<li> a few reviews\n<li> various meetings\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> goals for next two weeks:\n<ul>\n<li> improve efficiency of personal daily planning\n<li> figure out how to excise more distractions from my day\n<li> finish driving tb3 plan towards better alignment with reality\n<li> drive JS-in-mailnews patches into the tree\n<li> triage message-reader bugs\n<li> finish GloDa review\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"nth10sd\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> nth10sd <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozmill-dev\/browse_thread\/thread\/6b3c2dd721967be3?hl=en\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozmill-dev\/browse_thread\/thread\/6b3c2dd721967be3?hl=en\">Active discussions<\/a> with Mozmill devs and Mark about the path of Mozmill moving forward.\n<li> Mapping of Litmus tests with Mozmill tests are being <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/User:Nth10sd\/MozMill_TB_Litmus_Tests\" title=\"Nth10sd\/MozMill TB Litmus Tests\">done here<\/a>.\n<ul>\n<li> First one sort-of <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=471510#c5\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=471510#c5\">finished<\/a>\n<li> Latching on to one more in the coming weeks.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Looking at more Litmus tests to be converted to Mozmill tests.\n<li> Thunderbird <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rumblingedge.com\/2009\/01\/02\/numbers-of-bugs-relevant-to-thunderbird-listed-by-year\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.rumblingedge.com\/2009\/01\/02\/numbers-of-bugs-relevant-to-thunderbird-listed-by-year\/\">bug progress through the years<\/a> in a Rumbling Edge blog post.\n<li> Usual occasional bug triage and (minor) patch writings.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"jcranmer\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> jcranmer <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"Standard8\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Standard8 <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p>Non-goal activities:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviews\n<li> Trying to debug Mac random orange <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=462269\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=462269\">bug 462269<\/a>, seem to have currently worked around the problem. Will observe over the next week or so.\n<li> Made a start on the next round of Card -&gt; Contact changes, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=126491\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=126491\">bug 126491<\/a>, need to revisit patch\n<\/ul>\n<p>Two week goals (Start of week 2):\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Complete Password Manager migration\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=472101\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=472101\">bug 472101<\/a> Drop nsIMsgIncomingServer::rememberPassword (unneeded option\/preference)\n<li> All patches now up for reviews. See <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=239131\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=239131\">bug 239131<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=433316\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=433316\">bug 433316<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=419595\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=419595\">bug 419595<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Complete moving Leak and Bloat to Mozmill (if Mozmill issues are resolved)\n<ul>\n<li> Still awaiting resolution (stalled over new year).\n<\/ul>\n<li> Investigate if there is a simpler way to switch fully to toolkit autocomplete without doing too much work.\n<ul>\n<li> Todo\n<\/ul>\n<li> Look at Performance tests\n<ul>\n<li> Get some rough ideas of what &amp; how.\n<li> See if we can get a Ts structure in place (or something else)\n<ul>\n<li> This would be useful for jemalloc and assessing implementing a packages-static file for unix.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"asuth\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> asuth <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"bienvenu\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> bienvenu <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviews\n<li> Fixed regression in cross-folders views handling of marking messages read, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=472137\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=472137\">bug 472137<\/a>\n<li> Fixed regression in how we deal with invalid .msf files for local folders, including rebuild index, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=471307\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=471307\">bug 471307<\/a>\n<li> Investigated problems in handling imap folder names that need to be munged, patch up for review <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=115091\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=115091\">bug 115091<\/a>\n<li> updated autoconfig repo with latest trunk, and fixed things that broke.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Two week goals (week 2)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Finish folder archiving work. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451995\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451995\">bug 451995<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> first patch is up for review. Other patches will be submitted soon.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Two week goals (week 1)<br \/>\nGet back to autoconfig repo; try to get pieces of it ready for review.\n<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"emre\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> emre <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Two week goals\n<ul>\n<li> Finalizing activity manager and activity manager integration of core components.\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=257942\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=257942\">bug 257942<\/a> in review\n<\/ul>\n<li> Implementing a two level auto-sync model for TB-Idle cases.\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=471208\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=471208\">bug 471208<\/a> filed, and work initiated\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"gozer\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> gozer <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Build\n<ul>\n<li> Unit test buildbot master is brand new and all builders are slave to it\n<li> We now have unit test coverage on mozilla-central and releases\/1.9.1 across all 3 platforms\n<li> Waterfall is public: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/build.mozillamessaging.com\/buildbot\/unittest\/waterfall\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/build.mozillamessaging.com\/buildbot\/unittest\/waterfall\">Unittest Waterfall<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Infrastructure\n<ul>\n<li> Network outage took down lots of MoCo&#8217;s network, taking some of us down with it <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=471679\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=471679\">bug 471679<\/a>\n<li> We now have the infrastructure in place to run our own:\n<ul>\n<li> Bouncer\n<li> Download mirror\n<\/ul>\n<li> Corporate website redesign is underway in its own <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/svn.mozilla.org\/mozillamessaging.com\/sites\/mozillamessaging.com\/branches\/kinkora\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/svn.mozilla.org\/mozillamessaging.com\/sites\/mozillamessaging.com\/branches\/kinkora\/\">branch<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Personnal\n<ul>\n<li> On vacation: Jan 9th &#8211; Jan 16th (<i>on call<\/i>)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"clarkbw\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> clarkbw <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> bug triage catching up\n<li> driver work\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"wsmwk\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> wsmwk <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> closed 33 bugs\n<li> filed more crashes, topcrashes\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"beckley\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> beckley <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p>Catching up after several weeks of vacation\n<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"Penelope\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h6><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Penelope <\/span> <\/h6>\n<p>Final touches being made to next Eudora\/Penelope betas:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Builds will be made beginning of this week\n<li> Release end of this week\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"KaiRo\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> KaiRo <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"rkent\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> rkent <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p>I have soft tags working well enough now that I am running it as part of my normal email processing &#8211; though I have to run a custom TB build with several bug fixes to do that. I&#8217;m particularly pleased that the UI is so easy to use in the training. That is, once you turn on soft tagging for a particular tag, you then just continue to do manual tagging, including correcting of any tagging errors, and that does all of the training. I need to get any backend fixes into beta2 so that the TaQuilla soft-tagging extension can run with the standard release.<\/p>\n<p>I will need to touch the Bayesian tokenizer to fix some issues that are arising in soft tagging (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=472005\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=472005\">bug 472005<\/a>). While I am at it I intend to revive my old spam corpus testing extension, and make some minor changes to the tokenization of headers, after I test to make sure that the changes are a net improvement in performance.<\/p>\n<p>I am tempted to add the bayesian filter processing soon to RSS and newsgroups, as I can see that a big win for soft tagging would be to mark certain blogs or news posts as &#8220;interesting&#8221;, and then only read soft-tagged &#8220;interesting&#8221; posts when pressed for time &#8211; or sort them in &#8220;interesting&#8221; order, and read the more interesting first. This would be really useful in things like planet.mozilla, where there are more regular posts than I have time to read.\n<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"rebron\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> rebron <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Targeting mid-February launch for redesigned web site.  Work is being done on this <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/svn.mozilla.org\/mozillamessaging.com\/sites\/mozillamessaging.com\/branches\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/svn.mozilla.org\/mozillamessaging.com\/sites\/mozillamessaging.com\/branches\/\">branch<\/a>.\n<li> I&#8217;ll be posting our proposed Conference\/Event calendar this week.  If there are conferences or events you&#8217;d like to attend or would like to see us there, please let me know.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Two Week Goal\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> PR coordination.\n<li> Continued web site work, coordinate web site localization.\n<li> 2009 event planning.\n<li> Continue work on Support\/Help plan.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"sipaq\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> sipaq <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"mkmelin\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> mkmelin <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"Attendees\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p>bienvenu, davida, dmose, clarkbw, beckley, Gary, Rafael, gozer (wants a pony), standard8\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-01-06\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-01-06<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-01-06 From MozillaWiki last meeting | index | next week \u00bb Thunderbird Meeting Details Tuesday, Jan 6th, 17:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) How to dial-in Agenda Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; bienvenu Minute taking Schedule. 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