{"id":109,"date":"2009-01-14T00:00:51","date_gmt":"2009-01-14T04:00:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/109"},"modified":"2009-01-14T00:00:51","modified_gmt":"2009-01-14T04:00:51","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2009-01-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/109","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2009-01-13"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-01-13<\/h1>\n<h3>From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-01-06\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-01-06\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-01-20&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-01-20 (not yet written)\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2009&amp;month=01&amp;day=13&amp;hour=17&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2009&amp;month=01&amp;day=13&amp;hour=17&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\">Tuesday, Jan 13th, 17:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Agenda\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda <\/span> <\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>Standard8<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida for schedule changes\/additions.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Calls_For_Help\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Calls For Help <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p><a name=\"Action_Items\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p><a name=\"New\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> New <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"Open\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Open <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"Closed\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Closed <\/span> <\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> dmose &#8211; triage [tb3needs] bugs\n<li> clarkbw &#8211; send mail about drivers about triaging 3.0b1 wanted this week\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Thunderbird_3_Beta_2\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b2\" title=\"Thunderbird 3.0b2\">Thunderbird 3 Beta 2<\/a> <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> For reference, Gecko 1.9.1b3: Jan 13 Code Freeze, Jan 15 QA, Jan 26 Release according to their plan.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> clarkbw is release driver\n<li> gozer is build engineer\n<li> Proposed: Slushy string freeze from: Monday 2nd February 23:59 PST (<b>three weeks<\/b>)\n<li> Proposed: Firm string freeze and slushy Code freeze from: Thursday 5th February 23:59 PST\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Blockers\/Wanted\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;target_milestone=3.0b1&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;target_milestone=3.0b1&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b2 &#8211; blocking<\/a>: 60 (-17)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;long_desc_type=substring&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=tb3needs&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=exact&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=exact&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=noop&amp;type0-0-0=noop&amp;value0-0-0=\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;long_desc_type=substring&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=tb3needs&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=exact&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=exact&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=noop&amp;type0-0-0=noop&amp;value0-0-0=\">TB 3 Needs<\/a> 6 (0) Note: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=402573\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=402573\">bug 402573<\/a> waiting 1.9.1 approval.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b2 &#8211; wanted<\/a>: 42 (+11)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Proposed Blocking\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3?\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3?\">Proposed Blockers (b? + milestone)<\/a>: 7 (-2)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Fixed:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b2 &#8211; blocking<\/a>: 22 (+1)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b2&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b2 &#8211; wanted<\/a>: 16 (+3)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> We need to drive bugs with large string changes, e.g., archive, auto config, activity manager. Some way of marking bugs needing strings would be useful.\n<ul>\n<li> Archive patch landed.\n<ul>\n<li> One problem with local folders.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Activity Manager is awaiting a new patch from Emre.\n<li> AutoConfig is further away from review &#8211; initial patches posted <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=422814\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=422814\">bug 422814<\/a>.\n<li> Multiple e-mail addresses and tags needs strings.\n<ul>\n<li> Multiple e-mails not a priority for b2.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Thunderbird_3\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 3 <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap\" title=\"DevRoadmap\">Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> time to truly clamp down and ship sooner rather than later, even at the cost of substantial feature cuts\n<li> we need to get everything tracked in bugzilla\n<li> we will now have component drivers so that people actually own keeping subsets of bugs well-triaged\n<ul>\n<li> dmose to propose component assignments tuesday\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> things to file &amp; triage:\n<ul>\n<li> component drivers: blocking+ \/ blocking? bugs\n<li> davida: development roadmap\n<li> clarkbw: UX bugs from last weeks meeting\n<li> dmose: message reader bugs, tb3needs bugs\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> new triage rules\n<ul>\n<li> to stay on blocking+ list, a bug must be owned by someone, even if that&#8217;s (temporarily) the component driver\n<li> for each triaged bug on the blocking list: owner, target milestone, priority (P1 &#8211; P3; will be used to move bugs if milestone added)\n<li> criteria for blocking+: if this were the last blocker, we would make all of our users wait even longer for the existing changes in order to get the fix for this one?\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> to think about:\n<ul>\n<li> when do we branch? (i suspect immediately after b2)\n<li> when do we lock down the branch for only blocking+ and approved+ (i suspect a couple of weeks after b2)\n<li> how do we want to handle existing wanted+ bugs? (throw them off the list?)\n<li> when should we target having the first round of filing \/ triage done? (1 week from Tuesday?)\n<li> There will be a TB 3 beta 3 (milestone created in bugzilla)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"QA_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA Updates <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> topcrashes\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=471492\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=471492\">bug 471492<\/a> crash [@ nsImapMailFolder::CopyMessagesOffline]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=422907\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=422907\">bug 422907<\/a> nsMsgLocalMailFolder::GetTrashFolder (rootFolder is null)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=470804\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=470804\">bug 470804<\/a> NS_GetInnermostURI (CAPS?) (TB2) (patch landed on trunk &#8211; not 1.9.1 or 1.8.x)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=470808\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=470808\">bug 470808<\/a> nsProxyEventObject::CallMethod (imap)\n<li> <strike><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=470835\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=470835\">bug 470835<\/a> nsMsgLocalMailFolder::AddMessage (should be fixed in 12-23 nightly)<\/strike> (optimistically gone)\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/query.cgi?bug_id=470119%2C65775%2C125928%2C204339%2C215068%2C254519%2C324953%2C325429%2C339740%2C377125%2C381555%2C382480%2C382694%2C387403%2C406921%2C411988%2C433307%2C437908%2C439470%2C452661%2C452832%2C455069%2C455947%2C460058%2C460636%2C464808%2C465057%2C465177%2C465372%2C467288%2C468155%2C470170&amp;field-1-0-0=bug_id&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;type-1-0-0=anyexact&amp;value-1-0-0=470119%2C65775%2C125928%2C204339%2C215068%2C254519%2C324953%2C325429%2C339740%2C377125%2C381555%2C382480%2C382694%2C387403%2C406921%2C411988%2C433307%2C437908%2C439470%2C452661%2C452832%2C455069%2C455947%2C460058%2C460636%2C464808%2C465057%2C465177%2C465372%2C467288%2C468155%2C470170\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/query.cgi?bug_id=470119%2C65775%2C125928%2C204339%2C215068%2C254519%2C324953%2C325429%2C339740%2C377125%2C381555%2C382480%2C382694%2C387403%2C406921%2C411988%2C433307%2C437908%2C439470%2C452661%2C452832%2C455069%2C455947%2C460058%2C460636%2C464808%2C465057%2C465177%2C465372%2C467288%2C468155%2C470170&amp;field-1-0-0=bug_id&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;type-1-0-0=anyexact&amp;value-1-0-0=470119%2C65775%2C125928%2C204339%2C215068%2C254519%2C324953%2C325429%2C339740%2C377125%2C381555%2C382480%2C382694%2C387403%2C406921%2C411988%2C433307%2C437908%2C439470%2C452661%2C452832%2C455069%2C455947%2C460058%2C460636%2C464808%2C465057%2C465177%2C465372%2C467288%2C468155%2C470170\">in-testsuite? = bugs that need tests<\/a>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:QA_Days\" title=\"QA Days\">bug days resumed<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Roundtable\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> clarkbw, asuth, davida will be going down to MV this afternoon for several days.\n<li> davida is expecting to attend FOSDEM &amp; CBIT.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Status_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"davida\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> davida <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> recruiting\n<li> planning 2009\n<li> long term planning\n<li> working w\/ clarkbw and others re: UX 3.0 planning\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"dmose\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> dmose <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> goals for next two weeks:\n<ul>\n<li> improve efficiency of personal daily planning (on track)\n<li> figure out how to excise more distractions from my day (on track)\n<li> finish driving tb3 plan towards better alignment with reality (on track)\n<li> drive JS-in-mailnews patches into the tree (some progress)\n<li> finish GloDa review (lagging)\n<li> triage message-reader bugs (not yet started)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> non-goal activities\n<ul>\n<li> various strategy work\/discussion\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"nth10sd\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> nth10sd <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Wrapping up mozmill work &#8211; now sort-of usable in TB.\n<li> Minor patches &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=432903\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=432903\">bug 432903<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=461317\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=461317\">bug 461317<\/a>\n<li> Triage, Rumbling Edge, QA, Mozmill discussions.\n<li> School starts this week so will be shuffling on and offline.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"jcranmer\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> jcranmer <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"Standard8\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Standard8 <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p>Non-goal activities:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviews\n<li> Sorted out blocker lists\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=472492\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=472492\">bug 472492<\/a> fix &#8220;ex = TypeError: GetDBView() is null&#8221; warnings seen in leak &amp; bloat tests\n<\/ul>\n<p>Two week goals (end of week 2):\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Complete Password Manager migration\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=419595\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=419595\">bug 419595<\/a> review comments addressed and patch landed.\n<li> Investigated and fixed issues with &#8220;complicated&#8221; usernames (i.e. &#8220;foo@bar.com&#8221;) as a result of investigating <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=155172\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=155172\">bug 155172<\/a>.\n<li> Need clarkbw&#8217;s review on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=239131\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=239131\">bug 239131<\/a>\n<li> Need dolske&#8217;s review on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=472824\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=472824\">bug 472824<\/a> and to get it landed in 1.9.1 (have now requested blocking).\n<li> The transition will fix <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=155172\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=155172\">bug 155172<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469221\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=469221\">bug 469221<\/a> (both blockers) and several other bugs.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Complete moving Leak and Bloat to Mozmill (if Mozmill issues are resolved)\n<ul>\n<li> Issues for running with Mozmill appear to be fixed. Need to spend some time working on the revised test.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Investigate if there is a simpler way to switch fully to toolkit autocomplete without doing too much work.\n<ul>\n<li> Found a fix for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=343332\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=343332\">bug 343332<\/a> however it still didn&#8217;t solve the issues completely therefore dropped the bugs from my assigned list for now.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Look at Performance tests\n<ul>\n<li> Get some rough ideas of what &amp; how.\n<ul>\n<li> Had meeting with Alice (from MoCo) and got some good info on what Firefox does. <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/MailNews:Performance_Testing:Meeting_2008_01_09\" title=\"Meeting 2008 01 09\">Meeting minutes<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Two week goals (start of week 1):\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Finish driving in Password Manager\n<li> Implement send in background\n<li> Investigate Weave pop-tart system\n<li> Try and get initial numbers for Ts to see if we can enable jemalloc.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"asuth\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> asuth <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"bienvenu\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> bienvenu <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviews and Driving\n<li> Use translated version of Local Folders for new local folders account, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=464425\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=464425\">bug 464425<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Two week goals (week 2)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Finish folder archiving work. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451995\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451995\">bug 451995<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Initial patch landed. Tracking bug for remaining work &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=473212\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=473212\">bug 473212<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Two week goals (week 1)<br \/>\nGet back to autoconfig repo; try to get pieces of it ready for review.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> I&#8217;ve been doing massive cleanup on the code, and have generated a couple wip patches in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=422814\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=422814\">bug 422814<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"gozer\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> gozer <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p>On vacation.\n<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"clarkbw\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> clarkbw <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Posted patch for message reader reply button\n<li> Bug triage\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"wsmwk\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> wsmwk <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> blurbed about bugs that need litmus testcases\n<li> pinged ~30 FIXED bugs that may still need tests &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/query.cgi?bug_id=470119%2C65775%2C125928%2C204339%2C215068%2C254519%2C324953%2C325429%2C339740%2C377125%2C381555%2C382480%2C382694%2C387403%2C406921%2C411988%2C433307%2C437908%2C439470%2C452661%2C452832%2C455069%2C455947%2C460058%2C460636%2C464808%2C465057%2C465177%2C465372%2C467288%2C468155%2C470170&amp;field-1-0-0=bug_id&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;type-1-0-0=anyexact&amp;value-1-0-0=470119%2C65775%2C125928%2C204339%2C215068%2C254519%2C324953%2C325429%2C339740%2C377125%2C381555%2C382480%2C382694%2C387403%2C406921%2C411988%2C433307%2C437908%2C439470%2C452661%2C452832%2C455069%2C455947%2C460058%2C460636%2C464808%2C465057%2C465177%2C465372%2C467288%2C468155%2C470170\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/query.cgi?bug_id=470119%2C65775%2C125928%2C204339%2C215068%2C254519%2C324953%2C325429%2C339740%2C377125%2C381555%2C382480%2C382694%2C387403%2C406921%2C411988%2C433307%2C437908%2C439470%2C452661%2C452832%2C455069%2C455947%2C460058%2C460636%2C464808%2C465057%2C465177%2C465372%2C467288%2C468155%2C470170&amp;field-1-0-0=bug_id&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;type-1-0-0=anyexact&amp;value-1-0-0=470119%2C65775%2C125928%2C204339%2C215068%2C254519%2C324953%2C325429%2C339740%2C377125%2C381555%2C382480%2C382694%2C387403%2C406921%2C411988%2C433307%2C437908%2C439470%2C452661%2C452832%2C455069%2C455947%2C460058%2C460636%2C464808%2C465057%2C465177%2C465372%2C467288%2C468155%2C470170\">in-testsuite?<\/a>\n<li> triage\n<li> updated <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Testing\">Thunderbird:Testing<\/a> to include running nightlies and early releases\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"beckley\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> beckley <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"Penelope\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h6><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Penelope <\/span> <\/h6>\n<ul>\n<li> Mac and Windows builds were made but our QA was out sick, so testing will happen this week\n<li> Having problems with Linux builds and will be looking at getting those soon\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"KaiRo\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> KaiRo <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> SeaMonkey now uses the same ID and hiding method for status bar progress indicator, making life easier for shared code &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=458533\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=458533\">bug 458533<\/a>\n<li> Did some testing of Lightning in SeaMonkey with Mnyromyr&#8217;s tabmail patch &#8211; works fine with this, no error console messages, some missing menu items (overlay issues)\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"rkent\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> rkent <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"rebron\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> rebron <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Drafted 2009 event\/conference plan.  Still need to finalize resourcing (attendance, sponsorship).\n<li> Evaluating GetSatisfaction as part of our support\/help strategy.  We have 35 articles in there already.\n<li> Continuing web site work, coordinate web site localization.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Two Week Goal\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Distribution plan.\n<li> Continue work on Support\/Help plan.\n<li> Beta 2 work.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Attendees\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p>davida, dmose, Standard8, bienvenu, clarkbw, wsmwk, beckley, Kairo, Rebron<\/p>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-01-13\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-01-13<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-01-13 From MozillaWiki last meeting | index | next week \u00bb Thunderbird Meeting Details Tuesday, Jan 13th, 17:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) How to dial-in Agenda Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; Standard8 Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes\/additions. 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