{"id":1184,"date":"2012-11-07T00:00:03","date_gmt":"2012-11-07T04:00:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/?p=1184"},"modified":"2012-11-07T00:00:04","modified_gmt":"2012-11-07T04:00:04","slug":"mozilla-platform-2012-11-06","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/1184","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform: 2012-11-06"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Products.2FProjects\">Products\/Projects<\/h2>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Firefox_OS\">Firefox OS<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Most B2G engineers are in SF for their workweek\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/b2g-convergence-schedule\" rel=\"nofollow\">Convergence schedule<\/a> for remainder of the year announced\n<ul>\n<li> We&#8217;re currently in <b>C1 until Nov 19<\/b>, followed by an Exec Review\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/b2g-convergence-landing\" rel=\"nofollow\">Landing process<\/a> per-milestone has also been documented\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Firefox_Desktop\">Firefox Desktop<\/h3>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Release_update\">Release update<\/h4>\n<p>Next Merge Day: <b>13 days<\/b><br \/>\nFirefox 17.0 Release: <b>14 days<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Shooting for a Thursday push for FF17 beta 5 (going to build today)\n<li> Beta 6 will go to build Monday, targeting EOD PT &#8211; only a small handful of critical fixes will be approved for landing at this point\n<li> Beta 6 will ship next Wednesday, and the merge from m-b to m-r should occur shortly after\n<li> Merge and release will occur Monday 11\/19 and Tuesday 11\/20\n<ul>\n<li> Thanksgiving coverage has been lined up in case a critical FF17 issue requires investigation\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Development_update\">Development update<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Dao landed another Snappy fix to avoid doing unecessary work during startup, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=756313\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 756313<\/a>\n<li> New round of fixes went into beta 4 for Social API, including a more discoverable method to remove the feature, and better error handling on lack of network connectivity scenarios. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=803344\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 803344<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=804258\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 804258<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=804910\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 804910<\/a>\n<li> Stub installer metrics landed, yay! <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=802734\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 802734<\/a> &#8211; good teamwork from UX\/Privacy\/metrics\/dev\/rel-mgmt\n<li> Please test around <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=807217\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 807217<\/a> to ensure that Social API disabled in PB mode is working as expected\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Firefox_Mobile\">Firefox Mobile<\/h3>\n<dl>\n<dt>\\o\/Check out Finkle&#8217;s Blog<\/p>\n<dd> Remote Web Console for Android is here!\n<\/dl>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/starkravingfinkle.org\/blog\/2012\/10\/firefox-for-android-remote-web-console-is-here\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/starkravingfinkle.org\/blog\/2012\/10\/firefox-for-android-remote-web-console-is-here\/<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<dl>\n<dt>Responsiveness\n<\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=785945\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 785945<\/a> &#8211; Awesomescreen entries are very slow to appear\n<li> Quickly closing tabs with swipe gesture is better: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=770492\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 770492<\/a> &#8211; Quick sliding to close tabs will not dismiss them anymore at some point\n<\/ul>\n<dl>\n<dt>Usability\n<\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<ul>\n<li>Fix for honeycomb issue landed in Fx18 and Fx19: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=787318\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 787318<\/a> &#8211; Tabs thumbnails are not updated\n<li> fullscreen elements prevent screen timeout <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=805017\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 805017<\/a> &#8211; Disable screen timeout when DOMFullscreen is enabled\n<\/ul>\n<dl>\n<dt>IME Awesome Continues\n<\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=805162\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 805162<\/a> &#8211; Rewrite Android IME code to be thread safe\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=806349\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 806349<\/a> &#8211; Input auto-correction is not enabled\n<\/ul>\n<dl>\n<dt>Safe Browsing\n<\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<ul>\n<li>Freshly landed on Inbound (not for Fx17 for which Safe Browsing is a theme): <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=806422\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 806422<\/a> &#8211; Do not cache Complete&#8217;s across a Safe Browsing update\n<\/ul>\n<dl>\n<dt>Stability Wins\n<\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=797705\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 797705<\/a> &#8211; java.lang.NullPointerException: at org.mozilla.gecko.GeckoEvent.createNativeGestureEvent(GeckoEvent.java\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=804926\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 804926<\/a> &#8211; java.lang.NullPointerException: at org.mozilla.gecko.GeckoApp.requestRender(GeckoApp.java)\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=781259\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 781259<\/a> &#8211; java.lang.NullPointerException: at org.mozilla.gecko.DoorHangerPopup$3.run(DoorHangerPopup.java)\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=799877\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 799877<\/a> &#8211; java.lang.IllegalStateException: at android.widget.ListView.layoutChildren(ListView.java) with Adapter(class org.mozilla.gecko.AllPagesTab$AwesomeBarCursorAdapter)\n<\/ul>\n<dl>\n<dt>Telemetry Probes\n<\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<ul>\n<li> FENNEC_STARTUP_* probes\n<li> FENNEC_AWESOMEBAR_ALLPAGES_EMPTY_TIME\n<li> FENNEC_THUMBNAILS_COUNT, FENNEC_FAVICONS_COUNT, PLACES_PAGES_COUNT, PLACES_BOOKMARK_COUNTS\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Metro_.5BWeekly.5D\">Metro [Weekly]<\/h3>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Product\">Product<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> First draft of users stories ready for review: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/metro-mvp-use-cases\" rel=\"nofollow\">etherpad<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"UX\">UX<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Iteration on remote tabs: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/cl.ly\/image\/3v3S1v2X3S28\" rel=\"nofollow\">mockup<\/a> , <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=801056\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 801056<\/a>\n<li> Semantic zoom on start page: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/cl.ly\/image\/113a2H3A432n\" rel=\"nofollow\">mockup<\/a> , <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=807867\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 807867<\/a>\n<li> Iterating on &#8220;About Firefox&#8221; in setting charm: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=807691\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 807691<\/a>\n<li> Reviewed FX Metro user stories  and matching them with user actions: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/firefox-ux.etherpad.mozilla.org\/36\" rel=\"nofollow\">etherpad<\/a>\n<li> Keep focusing on designing P1 features: snap view, bookmarks, topsite UI implementation.\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Engineering\">Engineering<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> VC2010 backport is complete on elm. Should have vc10 elm builders doing nightlies this week.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=795887\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 795887<\/a> &#8211; Cache corruption should be significantly reduced in Metro due to Firefox closing the cache when it is suspended, r+ed, landing this week.\n<li> Elm to mc merge work continues.\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Project_Management\">Project Management<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Proposed new iteration model for development, under review and will post publicly once first draft is agreed to by core team.\n<li> First pass at time estimations done and total under review, will post once information is validated.\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Stability_Report_.5BWeekly.5D\">Stability Report [Weekly]<\/h3>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Desktop\">Desktop<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Flash\n<ul>\n<li> New version of Flash shipped today: Adobe Flash Player version 11.5.502.110\n<\/ul>\n<li> Trunk\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=808531\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 808531<\/a> crash in mozilla::MediaPipelineTransmit::PipelineListener::NotifyQueuedTrackChanges\n<li> 6 of the top 10 are image or gfx crashes, we need people to look into those: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/crash-stats.mozilla.com\/topcrasher\/byversion\/Firefox\/19.0a1\/7\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/crash-stats.mozilla.com\/topcrasher\/byversion\/Firefox\/19.0a1\/7<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Beta\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=808561\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 808561<\/a> crash in nsDisplayListBuilder::DisplayCaret\n<\/ul>\n<li> Aurora\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=806820\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 806820<\/a> crash in SuppressDeletedPropertyHelper\n<\/ul>\n<li> Release\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=807684\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 807684<\/a> crash in libnortonconfidential16.dylib@0x22f6d @ libsystem_c.dylib with Norton Confidential\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=807923\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 807923<\/a> crash in browsemngr.dll@0x11a176 with Browser Manager 2.3.796.11 bundled with Babylon\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"B2G\">B2G<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>KaiRo created a daily list of B2G on-device crashes, new ones will be generated every day automatically from now on. Today&#8217;s version (yesterday&#8217;s data): <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/crash-analysis.mozilla.com\/rkaiser\/2012-11-05\/2012-11-05.b2g.crashes.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/crash-analysis.mozilla.com\/rkaiser\/2012-11-05\/2012-11-05.b2g.crashes.html<\/a>\n<li>Symbols for unagi are now being uploaded, needs <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=809116\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 809116<\/a> to actually be used on the crash-stats server.\n<li>Please test the crash reporting UI (and make sure crashes are sent at least when on wifi)!\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Snappy_.5BWeekly.5D\">Snappy [Weekly]<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/tglek\/2012\/11\/05\/snappy-43-big-improvements-faster-startup-smoother-tabstrip\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Snappy #43: Big improvements: faster startup? Smoother tabstrip!<\/a>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Performance\/Snappy\/2012-11-01\" title=\"Performance\/Snappy\/2012-11-01\">Nov 1 Snappy minutes<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Start-up\n<ul>\n<li>Firefox median startup performance (as measured by <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/mzl.la\/RDgf2Q\" rel=\"nofollow\">SIMPLE_MEASURES_FIRST_PAINT<\/a>) improved between 20%-25% at the end of Firefox 18 cycle (~Oct 26).\n<li>D\u00e3o Gottwald postponed loading content until Firefox chrome is painted (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=756313\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 756313<\/a>). This will result in browser chrome painting sooner.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Tab Strip\n<ul>\n<li>Bas Schouten landed Azure (Windows 8) caching for gradients, which is useful when rendering border corners. (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=805831\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 805831<\/a> This should speed up tab-strip drawing when 2d-acceleration is used.\n<li>Neil Deakin made two changes to avoid unnecessary layout flushes\n<ul>\n<li>changed popup.xml&#8217;s state getter to not flush frames when retrieving state (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=792296\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 792296<\/a>)\n<li>prevented scrollbox.ensureElementIsVisible() from being called if the tab strip doesn&#8217;t overflow (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=752376\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 752376<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Content\n<ul>\n<li> Matt Woodrow significantly improved the performance of the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/mrdoob.com\/lab\/javascript\/threejs\/css3d\/periodictable\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">periodic table demo<\/a> (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=806256\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 806256<\/a>). However, performance is still poor with Direct2D (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=808838\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 808838<\/a>).\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Tools\n<ul>\n<li>Benoit Girard updated the profiler to support linking to a specific view. Just grab the URL to share your current view. Read about more updates on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benoitgirard.wordpress.com\/2012\/11\/02\/upcoming-gecko-profiler-changes\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Benoit&#8217;s blog<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Games_.5B1st_Tuesday_of_Month.5D\">Games [1st Tuesday of Month]<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> As-yet-unnamed benchmark suite\n<ul>\n<li> Focus on real-world, leaning towards gaming and emscripten\n<li> Cross browser (Firefox [release\/beta\/aurora\/nightly\/tinderbox], Chrome, IE, Safari, Opera)\n<li> Desktop and mobile\n<li> Been hoping to deploy soon, but ran into stability issues on mobile that required some rearchitecting.\n<li> Will send sample results to dev.platform\/dev.firefox soon; goal is an arewefastyet-style display for gaming &amp; emscripten work\n<li> [<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.com\/~vladimir\/misc\/bench.png\" rel=\"nofollow\">result screenshot<\/a>]\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Game porting efforts, .NET -&gt; JS\n<ul>\n<li> We&#8217;ve been working with Kevin Gadd, author of JSIL, one of the .NET -&gt; JS porting tools\n<li> Goal is to get various frameworks and tools that use .NET running on the web (e.g. XNA, what a lot of xbox live arcade games are built on top of)\n<li> Complementing our emscripten porting efforts\n<li> There are other approaches possible, still evaluating what&#8217;s best\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Web Audio\n<ul>\n<li> Progressing, implementation framework is in place, Ehsan is working to get it to play sounds (via media streams) soon\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Games triage flags\n<ul>\n<li> [games:p1\/p2\/p3] or p? in the whiteboard\n<li> Vlad will be looking to find owners for the P1s very soon; many of them are in JS-land and are performance things that we at least want to make sure we have ways to reproduce and track\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Other smaller team projects\n<ul>\n<li> animation frame rate smoothing\n<ul>\n<li> eventually intelligent adaptation based on content\n<li> eventually vsync\n<\/ul>\n<li> WebGL compositing speedup and optimization\n<ul>\n<li> good interaction with OMTC\n<li> multi-buffering to remove stalls\n<\/ul>\n<li> BananaBread Multiplayer\n<ul>\n<li> Currently working to get it working with WebSockets\n<li> Once done, will move on to add in Peer to Peer support using WebRTC\n<li> Two new levels for capture the flag approved\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Engineering_Metrics\">Engineering Metrics<\/h2>\n<table class=\"wikitable\">\n<tr>\n<td> <big>0.0<\/big>\n<\/td>\n<td> <big>0.0 days<\/big>\n<\/td>\n<td> <big>0.0 days<\/big>\n<\/td>\n<td> <big><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?type0-7-0=notequals;value0-7-0=%2B;field0-3-0=cf_status_firefox18;type0-1-0=notequals;type0-5-0=notequals;value0-5-0=disabled;value0-4-0=verified;list_id=4754155;field0-1-0=cf_status_firefox18;field0-0-0=cf_tracking_firefox18;type0-4-0=notequals;columnlist=bug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cop_sys%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate;field0-6-0=cf_status_firefox18;query_based_on=Tracking16%2B;value0-3-0=unaffected;field0-7-0=cf_tracking_firefox17;query_format=advanced;value0-2-0=fixed;value0-6-0=verified%20disabled;value0-1-0=wontfix;type0-3-0=notequals;field0-2-0=cf_status_firefox18;field0-5-0=cf_status_firefox18;field0-4-0=cf_status_firefox18;type0-6-0=notequals;type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=%2B;type0-2-0=notequals;known_name=Tracking16%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\">70 bugs<\/a><\/big>\n<\/td>\n<td> <b><big><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?type0-1-0=notequals;type0-5-0=notequals;value0-5-0=disabled;value0-4-0=verified;list_id=4754086;field0-1-0=cf_status_firefox17;field0-0-0=cf_tracking_firefox17;value0-3-0=unaffected;value0-6-0=verified%20disabled;value0-1-0=wontfix;field0-5-0=cf_status_firefox17;type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=%2B;type0-2-0=notequals;field0-3-0=cf_status_firefox17;type0-4-0=notequals;columnlist=bug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cop_sys%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate;field0-6-0=cf_status_firefox17;query_based_on=Tracking16%2B;query_format=advanced;value0-2-0=fixed;type0-3-0=notequals;field0-2-0=cf_status_firefox17;field0-4-0=cf_status_firefox17;type0-6-0=notequals\" rel=\"nofollow\">29 bugs<\/a><\/big><\/b><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th scope=\"row\"> Patch Review Time\n<\/th>\n<th scope=\"row\"> SG:Crit Resolution Time\n<\/th>\n<th scope=\"row\"> Top Crash Resolution Time\n<\/th>\n<th scope=\"row\"> Unresolved Aurora Trackers (non-security, not tracked for Beta)\n<\/th>\n<th scope=\"row\"> <b>Unresolved Beta Trackers (non-security)<\/b><br \/>\n<\/table>\n<ul>\n<li> BUG IN NIGHTLY\n<li> Burn up\/down charts accurate\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~klahnakoski\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~klahnakoski\/<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Review history revised and fixed based on feedback\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/metrics.mozilla.com\/bugzilla-analysis\/ReviewHistory.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/metrics.mozilla.com\/bugzilla-analysis\/ReviewHistory.html<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Review queue times (first review, all reviews, etc coming)\n<ul>\n<li> Based on\u00a0% of reviews in the last 18 weeks done in 24 hours\n<ul>\n<li> Break out first reviews as well\n<\/ul>\n<li> There is a long slow &#8220;leak&#8221; of old patches &#8211; decide if they matter\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Key_Issues\">Key Issues<\/h2>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Actions_Last_Week\">Actions Last Week<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> jet to staff social performance profiling, layout-side\n<li> jet\/jkew to take the text, layout top crashers\n<li> jp to see about moztrap presentation in future weeks\n<li> dmandelin to follow up on test dir re-org thread\n<li> ehsan to update tree policy page on Ts regression backout policy for desktop and provide link\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/en-US\/docs\/Developer_Guide\/Committing_Rules_and_Responsibilities#Dealing_with_performance_regressions\" rel=\"nofollow\">link to policy<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> finkle Ts follow up for mobile\n<ul>\n<li> Finkle talked to the Android testing team and we might update the Ts test to be more realistic, but even for now, it does a good job of testing the &#8220;Load link from other app into Firefox&#8221; use case. Ts matters.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Issues\">Issues<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Changes to JS components\/JSMs (khuey)\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Roundtable\">Roundtable<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> gps is soliciting input for a brown bag on the build system. <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/build-system-brownbag\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/build-system-brownbag<\/a>\n<li> (catlee) B2G builds on TBPL\n<li> (catlee) HG downtime cancelled &#8211; may not be necessary now\n<li> (catlee) Android tests running on panda boards on cedar branch\n<li> (catlee) releng and IT want to add Windows 8 64-bit to tbpl but want to check if it is enough to not need to also add Windows 8 32-bit\n<ul>\n<li> This is posted on dev.platform <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/groups.google.com\/forum\/?fromgroups=#!topic\/mozilla.dev.platform\/QNKVMKenJ8E\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/groups.google.com\/forum\/?fromgroups=#!topic\/mozilla.dev.platform\/QNKVMKenJ8E<\/a>\n<li> This would save maintenance time and cost and allow higher capacity for Win8 64-bit\n<li> Any objections? Sounds good?\n<\/ul>\n<li>(curtisk) Security Champions &#8211; looking for people that want to be the champion for the area the normally work in. This is the thing from the Mon meeting Curtis talked about.\n<ul>\n<li> meeting in J\/K (IRL\/Vidyo) 1300 PDT 6-Nov or contact Curtis\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2012-11-06\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2012-11-06<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<hr>\n<div class=\"h-event vevent\">\n<p><b><span class=\"p-summary summary\">Platform Meeting<\/span> Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <span class=\"dt-start dtstart\">Tuesday <span class=\"value\">2012-11-06<\/span> &#8211; <span class=\"value\">11:00<\/span> am <abbr class=\"value\" title=\"-0700\">Pacific<\/abbr><\/span>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Teleconferencing\" title=\"Teleconferencing\">Dial-in<\/a>: conference# 95312\n<ul>\n<li> US\/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 95312\n<li> US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312\n<li> Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312\n<\/ul>\n<li> <span class=\"location\"><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/v.mozilla.com\/flex.html?roomdirect.html&amp;key=UK1zyrd7Vhym\" rel=\"nofollow\">Warp Core Vidyo Room<\/a> \/ SFO-Boardroom<\/span>\n<li> join irc.mozilla.org <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\" rel=\"nofollow\">#planning<\/a> for back channel\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Products\/Projects Firefox OS Most B2G engineers are in SF for their workweek Convergence schedule for remainder of the year announced We&#8217;re currently in C1 until Nov 19, followed by an Exec Review Landing process per-milestone has also been documented Firefox Desktop Release update Next Merge Day: 13 days Firefox 17.0 Release: 14 days Shooting for [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[258],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1184"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1184"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1184\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1184"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1184"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1184"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}