{"id":1361,"date":"2013-05-28T23:00:03","date_gmt":"2013-05-29T03:00:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/?p=1361"},"modified":"2013-05-28T23:00:03","modified_gmt":"2013-05-29T03:00:03","slug":"mozilla-platform-2013-05-28","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/1361","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform: 2013-05-28"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div class=\"mw-content-ltr\" dir=\"ltr\" id=\"mw-content-text\" lang=\"en\">\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Notices.2FSchedule\">Notices\/Schedule<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> FF21 post-mortem held today &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/21-0-Post-Mortem\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/21-0-Post-Mortem<\/a>\n<li> FF22b3 going to build today\/tomorrow, released before the end of the week\n<ul>\n<li> After 6\/4, no more speculative fixes. After 6\/11, only new critical regressions will see fixes\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<table class=\"wikitable\">\n<tr>\n<td> <big><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?type0-7-0=notequals;value0-7-0=%2B;field0-3-0=cf_status_firefox23;type0-1-0=notequals;type0-5-0=notequals;value0-5-0=disabled;value0-4-0=verified;field0-1-0=cf_status_firefox23;field0-0-0=cf_tracking_firefox23;type0-4-0=notequals;columnlist=bug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cop_sys%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate;field0-6-0=cf_status_firefox23;value0-3-0=unaffected;field0-7-0=cf_tracking_firefox22;query_format=advanced;value0-2-0=fixed;value0-6-0=verified%20disabled;value0-1-0=wontfix;type0-3-0=notequals;field0-2-0=cf_status_firefox23;field0-5-0=cf_status_firefox23;field0-4-0=cf_status_firefox23;type0-6-0=notequals;type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=%2B;type0-2-0=notequals;list_id=5004437\" rel=\"nofollow\">37 bugs<\/a><\/big> <small>(40 bugs last week)<\/small>\n<\/td>\n<td> <b><big><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?type0-1-0=notequals;type0-5-0=notequals;value0-5-0=disabled;value0-4-0=verified;list_id=4754086;field0-1-0=cf_status_firefox22;field0-0-0=cf_tracking_firefox22;value0-3-0=unaffected;value0-6-0=verified%20disabled;value0-1-0=wontfix;field0-5-0=cf_status_firefox22;type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=%2B;type0-2-0=notequals;field0-3-0=cf_status_firefox22;type0-4-0=notequals;columnlist=bug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cop_sys%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate;field0-6-0=cf_status_firefox22;query_format=advanced;value0-2-0=fixed;type0-3-0=notequals;field0-2-0=cf_status_firefox22;field0-4-0=cf_status_firefox22;type0-6-0=notequals\" rel=\"nofollow\">43 bugs<\/a><\/big> <small>(41 bugs last week)<\/small><\/b><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th scope=\"row\"> <small>Unresolved Aurora 23 Trackers (non-security, not tracked for Beta)<\/small>\n<\/th>\n<th scope=\"row\"> <b><small>Unresolved Beta 22 Trackers (non-security)<\/small><\/b><br \/>\n<\/table>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Key_Issues\">Key Issues<\/h2>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Future_of_the_platform_meeting\">Future of the platform meeting<\/h3>\n<p>As posted to dev-platform (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/groups.google.com\/forum\/?fromgroups#!topic\/mozilla.dev.platform\/9BrLa_9zTUM\" rel=\"nofollow\">What should be next for the platform meeting?<\/a>):<\/p>\n<p>The general feeling about the platform meeting seems to be:\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> it has some useful content\/purpose that we want to maintain\n<li> it has no particular focus and is not optimized for anyone\n<\/ol>\n<p>For 1, the uses that I&#8217;ve heard include (please feel free to add to this list):<br \/>\n&#8211; opportunity to find owners for stability, orange factor, other bugs<br \/>\n&#8211; opportunity to present ideas (like moving to Git) to a chunk of engineering<br \/>\n&#8211; like to know what other teams are up to<\/p>\n<p>Other useful content that has been suggested includes:<br \/>\n&#8211; content for hackers<br \/>\n&#8211; engineering paper cuts<\/p>\n<p>For 2, it seems clear that this meeting is broken in its current form. I have heard the following suggestions to maintain the benefits in 1 without the platform meeting:<br \/>\na. set up a regular newsletter or other form to push team status to engineering (easier said than done)<br \/>\nb. set up an engineering managers meeting to handle cross team issues that require escalation like finding bug owners (requires buy in from a good number of managers)<\/p>\n<p>Has the platform meeting run it&#8217;s course? Is it time to retire this staple of the weekly engineering meeting schedule?\n<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Threads\">Threads<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> dev-platform\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/groups.google.com\/forum\/?fromgroups#!topic\/mozilla.dev.platform\/2gvnS7kfqdA\" rel=\"nofollow\">Code Review Session<\/a> (sjohnson)\n<\/ul>\n<li> dev-webapi\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/groups.google.com\/forum\/?fromgroups#!topic\/mozilla.dev.webapi\/NG85dsMxvCc\" rel=\"nofollow\">Doc Sprint around WebAPIs on May 31st<\/a> (David Bruant)\n<\/ul>\n<li> mobile-firefox-dev\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/pipermail\/mobile-firefox-dev\/2013-May\/000089.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Using Gecko as a Widget (GeckoView)<\/a> (mfinkle)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/pipermail\/mobile-firefox-dev\/2013-May\/000086.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Feedback on Prompt.jsm<\/a> (wesj)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Products.2FProjects\">Products\/Projects<\/h2>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Firefox_Mobile\">Firefox Mobile<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Async prompt service <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=870062\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 870062<\/a>\n<li> Refactor to eliminate GeckoApp.mAppContext for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=867517\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 867517<\/a>, Gecko-based WebView\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"OrangeFactor\">OrangeFactor<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Past week&#8217;s OrangeFactor: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/brasstacks.mozilla.com\/orangefactor\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">5.74<\/a> (Previous Week: 6.88).\n<li> Thanks to philor for disabling failure-prone Android tests that were causing frequent suite timeouts.\n<li> Windows iX Slave Top Oranges\n<ul>\n<li> Win7 media test failures discussed last week still unassigned &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=872748\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 872748<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=872760\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 872760<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=872788\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 872788<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=872996\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 872996<\/a>.\n<li> #1 top orange (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=858377\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 858377<\/a> &#8211; Intermittent test_393498.js | false == true) currently unowned. WinXP iX slaves primarily.\n<li> #4 top orange (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=774689\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 774689<\/a> &#8211; Intermittent 632781-verybig.html | image comparison (==), max difference: 255, number of differing pixels: 14400 ) currently unowned. WinXP iX slaves primarily.\n<\/ul>\n<li> #7 top orange (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=875194\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 875194<\/a> &#8211; Intermittent Android test_video_crossorigin.html | uncaught exception &#8211; NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE: Component is not available at <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/mochi.test:8888\/tests\/content\/canvas\/test\/crossorigin\/test_video_crossorigin.html:33\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/mochi.test:8888\/tests\/content\/canvas\/test\/crossorigin\/test_video_crossorigin.html:33<\/a>) currently unowned.\n<li> 21 intermittent failures fixed in the last week &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=intermittent-failure%2C%20&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;o1=greaterthan&amp;v1=2013-05-21&amp;f1=cf_last_resolved&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;list_id=6652036\" rel=\"nofollow\">List<\/a> &#8211; Thanks!.\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"MemShrink\">MemShrink<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Brian Hackett <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=865059\" rel=\"nofollow\">delayed the analysis of JS scripts<\/a> until they are Baseline-compiled, which reduces how much memory is used by scripts that are only run a few times. Among other things, this reduces startup memory by 14mb (10%), entirely eliminating a spike in memory usage we saw in the first 30 seconds after startup on AreWeSlimYet.\n<li> Joe Drew and Andreas Gal landed some <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=862970\" rel=\"nofollow\">nice fixes<\/a> to reduce <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=865929\" rel=\"nofollow\">image memory usage on B2G<\/a>, which continues to be a concern.\n<li> Read more about these and many other memory improvements in the MemShrink report for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/jlebar.com\/2013\/5\/8\/MemShrink_process%2C_weeks_97-98.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">weeks 97-98<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Roundtable\">Roundtable<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> (armenzg) new win7, winXP test machines live in production\n<li> tbpl database update Thursday &#8211; no downtime, but just fyi.\n<li> hg upgrade coming 01june &#8211; brief downtime, more details in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=741353\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 741353<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<hr>\n<div class=\"h-event vevent\">\n<p><b><span class=\"p-summary summary\">Platform Meeting<\/span> Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <span class=\"dt-start dtstart\">Tuesday <span class=\"value\">2013-05-28<\/span> &#8211; <span class=\"value\">11:00<\/span> am <abbr class=\"value\" title=\"-0700\">Pacific<\/abbr><\/span>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Teleconferencing\" title=\"Teleconferencing\">Dial-in<\/a>: conference# 98411\n<ul>\n<li> US\/International: +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 98411\n<li> US toll free: +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 98411\n<li> Canada: +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 98411\n<li> FR\/Paris: +33 1 44 79 34 80, x92  Conf# 98411\n<\/ul>\n<li> <span class=\"location\"><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/v.mozilla.com\/flex.html?roomdirect.html&amp;key=T2v8Pi8WuTRc\" rel=\"nofollow\">Engineering Vidyo Room<\/a> \/ Warp Core \/ SFO-Boardroom \/ Tor Commons<\/span>\n<li> join irc.mozilla.org <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\" rel=\"nofollow\">#planning<\/a> for back channel\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2013-05-28?title=Platform\/2013-05-28&amp;oldid=661048\">?title=Platform\/2013-05-28&amp;oldid=661048<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Notices\/Schedule FF21 post-mortem held today &#8211; https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/21-0-Post-Mortem FF22b3 going to build today\/tomorrow, released before the end of the week After 6\/4, no more speculative fixes. 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