{"id":166,"date":"2009-04-21T23:00:44","date_gmt":"2009-04-22T03:00:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/166"},"modified":"2009-04-21T23:00:44","modified_gmt":"2009-04-22T03:00:44","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2009-04-21","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/166","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2009-04-21"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-04-21<\/h1>\n<h3>From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-04-14\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-04-14\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-04-28&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-04-28 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2009&amp;month=04&amp;day=21&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2009&amp;month=04&amp;day=21&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\">Tuesday, Apr 21st, 16:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Agenda\" name=\"Agenda\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>asuth<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida for schedule changes\/additions.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Action_Items\" name=\"Action_Items\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"New\" name=\"New\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> New <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a id=\"Open\" name=\"Open\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Open <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a id=\"Closed\" name=\"Closed\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Closed <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a id=\"Thunderbird_3_Beta_3\" name=\"Thunderbird_3_Beta_3\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3\" title=\"Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0b3\">Thunderbird 3 Beta 3<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Planned Freeze Dates ( <i>All dates use time of 23:59 PST<\/i> )\n<ul>\n<li> Slushy String freeze date: 2009-04-28 (Tuesday)\n<li> Slushy Code Freeze date: 2009-04-30 (Thursday)\n<li> Firm String \/ Code freeze date: 2009-05-05 (Tuesday)\n<li> l10n-mozilla-1.9.1 freeze date: 2009-05-07 (Thursday)\n<li> Target Build Ship date: 2009-05-12 (Tuesday)\n<\/ul>\n<li> dmose is release driver\n<li> gozer is build engineer\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Blockers\/Wanted\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b3&amp;target_milestone=3.0b3&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b3&amp;target_milestone=3.0b3&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b3 &#8211; blocking<\/a> 61 (-8)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b3&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b3&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b3 &#8211; wanted<\/a> 27 (+1)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&amp;sharer_id=1537\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&amp;sharer_id=1537\">b3ux<\/a> 28 (-1)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Proposed Blocking\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b3&amp;target_milestone=3.0b3&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b3&amp;target_milestone=3.0b3&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%3F\">Proposed Blockers (b3)<\/a> 1 (0)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Fixed:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b3&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b3&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b3 &#8211; blocking<\/a> 60 (+9)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b3&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0b3&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0b3 &#8211; wanted<\/a> 19 (+4)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Six weekly milestones (<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b3#Milestones\" title=\"Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0b3\">[m1] &#8211; [m6]<\/a>) have been created to help spread out <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&amp;sharer_id=1537\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=%5Bb3ux%5D&amp;sharer_id=1537\">b3ux feature work<\/a> across the milestone and avoid lots of hard landings \/ misses at the end of the cycle.\n<ul>\n<li> davida driving [b3ux]\n<li> davida: too many bugs? slip or cut\n<ul>\n<li> various discussion; general feeling seemed to be that shipping was very important\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Bug-owners: please try to find a little time (an hour?) and go through as many bugs as you can and add a few paragraphs about implementation strategy and test plan.  This will be helpful for both QA and for convincing people to step up to the plate for new bugs, and the hope is that it will actually be a net win as far as time spent goes, despite requiring the time-investment up-front.\n<ul>\n<li> Please try and write at least one TestPlan this week\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Thunderbird_3\" name=\"Thunderbird_3\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final\" title=\"Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final\">Thunderbird 3<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap\" title=\"Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap\">Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap<\/a>\n<li> Blockers\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&amp;sharer_id=1537\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&amp;sharer_id=1537\">blocking-thunderbird3+<\/a> 114 (-8)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=tb3needs&amp;sharer_id=1537\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=tb3needs&amp;sharer_id=1537\">TB 3 Needs<\/a>: 3 (-2)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Proposed Blocking\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3?\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3?\">Proposed Blockers (all)<\/a>: 19 (+3)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.\n<li> If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don&#8217;t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"QA_Updates\" name=\"QA_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Test day is this Thursday see <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-04-23\" title=\"Thunderbird:QA TestDay:2009-04-23\">Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-04-23<\/a>\n<li> Litmus test run is next week\n<li> Trying <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/chat.mozillamessaging\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/chat.mozillamessaging\">Webchat<\/a> as a new way to engage users\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Marketing_Updates\" name=\"Marketing_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"IT_update\" name=\"IT_update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> IT update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Saturday&#8217;s <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/noc.mozillamessaging.com\/2009\/04\/warning-intermittent-network-issues.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/noc.mozillamessaging.com\/2009\/04\/warning-intermittent-network-issues.html\">outage<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Caused by our firewall hitting it&#8217;s connections limit\n<ul>\n<li> Caused by an accidental global increase in keepalive timeouts that should have been limited to chat.mozillamessaging.com\n<\/ul>\n<li> Resulted in degraded performance of all our web presences\n<li> Fully monitored now, and will not happen again\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> All planned new hardware has been ordered\n<li> Planned RAM upgrade has begun\n<ul>\n<li> 1 VMware Server has been upgraded\n<li> 1 is planned for this week\n<li> The other 2 will be next week\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/chat.mozillamessaging.com\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/chat.mozillamessaging.com\">chat.mozillamessaging.com<\/a> is up and ready for some trial by fire\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Roundtable\" name=\"Roundtable\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Status_Updates\" name=\"Status_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a id=\"davida\" name=\"davida\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> davida <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"dmose\" name=\"dmose\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> dmose <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"nth10sd\" name=\"nth10sd\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> nth10sd <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=440641\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=440641\">bug 440641<\/a> successfully triaged with hang stack.\n<ul>\n<li> Getting some more qawanted on my plate..\n<\/ul>\n<li> More testcase reduction fun (JS-land).\n<li> Mozmill has experimental modal dialog support, now waiting on templatized DOM trees patch (needed for folder selection on the left side for TB)\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Standard8\" name=\"Standard8\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Standard8 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviews &amp; Driving\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=489168\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=489168\">bug 489168<\/a> Leaking nsAbCardProperty when collecting addresses for email addresses that already exist in the address book.\n<li> Send in background <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=440794\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=440794\">bug 440794<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Fixed sending more than one message in a session.\n<li> Hooked up to shutdown service so that we&#8217;ll now finish sending if we&#8217;re already sending when user attempts to quit (note, this is currently affected by <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459376\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459376\">bug 459376<\/a>\n<li> Had some discussions on how to fix\/avoid the quit-application-requested bug (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459376\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459376\">bug 459376<\/a>).\n<li> Did some big re-factoring <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=489325\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=489325\">bug 489325<\/a> so we can get sane progress indications from the back-end to the front-end which will lead into doing retry on failure etc.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"asuth\" name=\"asuth\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> asuth <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"bienvenu\" name=\"bienvenu\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> bienvenu <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviews and driving\n<li> Autoconfig is on the trunk, but not enabled in the UI yet &#8211; working through blocking issues with Philor.\n<li> Smart Mailboxes patches in review process\n<li> Worked on GMAil XLIST support\n<li> Fixed exception in gloda folder deleted event listener, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=488590\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=488590\">bug 488590<\/a>\n<li> Landed potential fix for hang on shutdown with open imap connections<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=487965\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=487965\">bug 487965<\/a>\n<li> speed up undoing move\/delete of large number of local messages by using db batching, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=488606\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=488606\">bug 488606<\/a>\n<li>  make sure we playback offline events if you shutdown offline and restart online, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=364082\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=364082\">bug 364082<\/a>\n<li> make longer network timeout for copying large number of imap messages, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=409259\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=409259\">bug 409259<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"gozer\" name=\"gozer\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> gozer <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Build\n<ul>\n<li> Investigate source based nightly\/try builds <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=489338\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=489338\">bug 489338<\/a>\n<li> Try Server Mac OS X issues look resolved\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Web\n<ul>\n<li> Saturday&#8217;s outage\u00a0: <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-04-21#IT_update\" title=\"\">#IT_update<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/chat.mozillamessaging.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/chat.mozillamessaging.com\/\">chat.mozillamessaging.com<\/a> up and ready for testing\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Infrastructure\n<ul>\n<li> All planned new hardware has been ordered\n<li> Colo Rack move will happen April 29th, more details still to come\n<li> We have a Jabber server now (backend to chat), would there be interest in opening this up\u00a0?\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"clarkbw\" name=\"clarkbw\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> clarkbw <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"wsmwk\" name=\"wsmwk\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> wsmwk <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> resurrected <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=201332\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=201332\">bug 201332<\/a> [meta] bugs related to &#8220;Show only subscribed folders&#8221; option\n<li> qa&#8217;d <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=486430\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=486430\">bug 486430<\/a> Mail Start Page disappears after right click\n<li> qa&#8217;d <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=487965\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=487965\">bug 487965<\/a> hang on shutdown with open imap connections and zero cpu\n<li> qa&#8217;d <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=487375\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=487375\">bug 487375<\/a> Severe performance issues on USB stick while deleting or receiving mail\n<li> bugday &#8211; triage trunk unconfirmed with no previous comment\n<li> profile manager &#8211; more banging on dataloss concerns\n<li> cruisin\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"beckley\" name=\"beckley\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> beckley <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"Penelope\" name=\"Penelope\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h6> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Penelope <\/span><\/h6>\n<ul>\n<li> Synced Eudora source to latest TB 3.0b3pre sources, and next Eudora beta will be based on TB 3.0b3 released sources\n<li> Talked to gozer and bhearsum about configuring updates for Eudora\n<li> Worked some on that, but having problems with Venkman not breaking in some update wizard pages\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"KaiRo\" name=\"KaiRo\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> KaiRo <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"rkent\" name=\"rkent\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> rkent <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"rebron\" name=\"rebron\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> rebron <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"Tsk\" name=\"Tsk\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Tsk <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li>Done\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li> Tested chat.mome\n<li> changed the look from chat.mome\n<li> Triaged some perf related bugs\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Continuing\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li> Test plans\n<li> Community engagement\n<li> Looking into mozmill\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Todo\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li> start thinking about 3.0\n<li> make the litmus testing sucessfull.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"andreasn\" name=\"andreasn\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> andreasn <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Got network running in the Vista VM and Dropbox to sync between the Desktop and the VM.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Last week\n<ul>\n<li> Activity manager stuff\n<li> Vista: better looking sidebar.\n<li> Vista: lots of new icons\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> This week\n<ul>\n<li> Get as many Vista icons in as possible\n<li> Track Linux changes in bugzilla and wiki.\n<li> Vista theme work.\n<li> XP theme work.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Attendees\" name=\"Attendees\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees <\/span><\/h3>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-04-21\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-04-21<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-04-21 From MozillaWiki &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings last meeting | index | next week \u00bb Thunderbird Meeting Details\u00a0: Tuesday, Apr 21st, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) How to dial-in Agenda Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; asuth Minute taking Schedule. 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