{"id":1987,"date":"2014-11-19T00:00:04","date_gmt":"2014-11-19T04:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/?p=1987"},"modified":"2014-11-19T00:00:04","modified_gmt":"2014-11-19T04:00:04","slug":"mozilla-platform-2014-11-18","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/1987","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform: 2014-11-18"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div class=\"mw-content-ltr\" dir=\"ltr\" id=\"mw-content-text\" lang=\"en\">\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Need_To_Know\">Need To Know<\/h2>\n<p><small>(Release and system issues that may impact engineering this week.)<\/small>\n<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Notices.2FSchedule_.28lmandel.29\">Notices\/Schedule (lmandel)<\/h3>\n<table cellpadding=\"10\" class=\"wikitable\" style=\"color: green;background-color: #ffffcc\">\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"2\"><big>Next Merge:<\/big> <b>November 28, 2014<\/b>\n<\/td>\n<td colspan=\"2\"><big>Next Release:<\/big> <b>December 1, 2014<\/b><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th colspan=\"4\" style=\"color: black\">Trains<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Central: 36\n<\/td>\n<td>Aurora: 35\n<\/td>\n<td>Beta: 34\n<\/td>\n<td>Release: 33<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<ul>\n<li> As announced on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/groups.google.com\/d\/msg\/mozilla.dev.planning\/d7fugMdUNsQ\/5y9GbmoDo-kJ\" rel=\"nofollow\">dev-planning<\/a>, Firefox 34 will take an extra week before release\n<ul>\n<li> CHANGE IN RELEASE DATE: Dec 1\/2, 2014\n<\/li>\n<li> CHANGE IN MERGE DATE: Fri, Nov 28, 2014\n<\/li>\n<li> No change to Firefox 35 release date\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Desktop 34 beta10 ships today\n<\/li>\n<li> Mobile 34 beta10 ships tomorrow\n<\/li>\n<li> FINAL BETA: Desktop\/Mobile 34 beta11 gtb on Thursday\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Some release related work week sessions (e-mail lsblakk for details):\n<ul>\n<li> Detecting issues earlier in the cycle\n<\/li>\n<li> Mitigation strategies for issues in field that don&#8217;t require a point release (think blocklist)\n<\/li>\n<li> Release process\/schedule discussion\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Build_Changes_.28gps.29\">Build Changes (gps)<\/h3>\n<p><small>(Build changes of which engineers should be aware.)<\/small><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"RelEng_.28catlee.29\">RelEng (catlee)<\/h3>\n<p><small>(Repo, test, and other information for engineers from the release engineering team.)<\/small><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Upcoming_Outages.2FUpgrades\">Upcoming Outages\/Upgrades<\/h3>\n<p><small>(System outages\/upgrades and tree closures that impact engineering.)<\/small>\n<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Quality_Programs\">Quality Programs<\/h2>\n<p><small>(An opportunity to hear about status with the various quality programs that do not have a formal team structure.)<\/small>\n<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"CritSmash_.28dbolter.29\">CritSmash (dbolter)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> We&#8217;re doing well on criticals, not great otherwise.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"MemShrink_.28njn.29\">MemShrink (njn)<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: maroon\">&lt;Read Only&gt;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\nareweslimyet.com (AWSY) is broken due to e10s landing. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1100253\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 1100253<\/a> is tracking this. There&#8217;s a big warning at the top of AWSY so that people don&#8217;t freak out too much.\n<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Stability_.28kairo.29\">Stability (kairo)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/arewestableyet.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Overall numbers<\/a> look good again except for Nightly (and Android Aurora, which is coming back down after a MediaCodec fix).\n<ul>\n<li> Nightly issues are mostly e10s and GFX.\n<\/li>\n<li> While there&#8217;s some things we probably want to investigate, no firefighting needs on any channels above Nightly atm!\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/arewestableyet.com\/graph\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Long-term crash rate graphs<\/a> are now available for Nightly and Aurora in addition to Beta and Release\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Help needed: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1093683\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1093683<\/a> (Yosemite crash when saving files) is rising across channels, needs investigation, if on Apple side, we may need to communicate with them.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Team_Stand-ups\">Team Stand-ups<\/h2>\n<p><small>(In &lt;2 mins, what did your team accomplish last week, on what is your team working on this week, and on what, if anything, is your team blocked? No questions during the stand-ups. All questions should be asked during the roundtable.)<\/small>\n<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"A.2ATeam_.28jgriffin.29\">A*Team (jgriffin)<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: maroon\">&lt;Read Only&gt;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8211;run-by-dir for mochitest-browser-chrome has landed! See <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1057512\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1057512<\/a>. Three tests are currently disabled as a result, we&#8217;re working on finding owners and fixing them:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1096285\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1096285<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1097056\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1097056<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1100301\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1100301<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Accessibility_.28dbolter.29\">Accessibility (dbolter)<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: maroon\">&lt;Read Only&gt;<\/span>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Eitan implemented <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1069598\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1069598<\/a> gesture quicknav (for Gaia)\n<\/li>\n<li> Trevor is ready for engineering help with our e10s a11y solution (will reach out)\n<\/li>\n<li> W3C land: possibility of element.getComputedRole is being discussed. Essentially this opens the door to accessibility-like DOM API. A downside is it will be a little too easy to instantiate our a11y engine (increases exploit attack surface), upsides include a11y innovation as well as a11y acid tests.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Electrolysis_.28e10s.29_.28blassey.29\">Electrolysis (e10s) (blassey)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> e10s is still enabled by default for Nightly users (except IME or a11y)\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1089008\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1089008<\/a> &#8211; Windows without gfx hardware acceleration will no longer automatically disable e10s\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1066685\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1066685<\/a> &#8211; Jetpack page-mod add-ons are now e10s compatible. This is big news for add-on compatibility.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=980161\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 980161<\/a> &#8211; Tracking Protection is now e10s compatible.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=980161\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 980161<\/a> &#8211; Shumway is now e10s compatible.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1047248\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1047248<\/a> &#8211; Firebug version 3 (alpha) is now e10s compatible.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=669200\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 669200<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=961361\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 961361<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1098055\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1098055<\/a> &#8211; Many plugin fixes for e10s compatibility.\n<\/li>\n<li> Screenshot of Gecko Profiler for e10s:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dropbox.com\/s\/uxsdu5f1sor5kd0\/Screenshot%202014-11-17%2015.59.30.png?dl=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/www.dropbox.com\/s\/uxsdu5f1sor5kd0\/Screenshot%202014-11-17%2015.59.30.png?dl=0<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> We may disable e10s on Nightly a few days before the Aurora merge date.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Firefox_Mobile_.28snorp.2Fblassey.2Fmfinkle.29\">Firefox Mobile (snorp\/blassey\/mfinkle)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Possible uplift of fixes (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1086693\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1086693<\/a>) and enabling MediaCodec backend on 34 now that we have some more time\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"GFX_.28milan.29\">GFX (milan)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Desktop QA is maintaining a &#8220;Top 5&#8221; graphics bugs in Trello that we&#8217;re using to prioritize bug fixing.  Very convenient.\n<\/li>\n<li> (Still ) chasing some blacklisting opportunities, mostly on AMD now.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Layout_.28jet.2Fdbaron.29\">Layout (jet\/dbaron)<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: maroon\">&lt;Read Only&gt;<\/span>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> CSS properties &#8220;object-fit&#8221; &amp; &#8220;object-position&#8221; have landed (impl: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=624647\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 624647<\/a>, pref-enabled: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1099450\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1099450<\/a>)\n<\/li>\n<li> Should be enabled in tomorrow&#8217;s nightly, depending on inbound merge timing.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Media_.28mreavy.29\">Media (mreavy)<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: maroon\">&lt;Read Only&gt;<\/span>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Hello problems over the weekend caused by a Push server update\n<ul>\n<li> Push team figuring out what went wrong and why an update they didn&#8217;t intend got included\n<\/li>\n<li> Seems stable now.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Fighting a 20fps max issue in B2G 2.1 (regression likely due to bug 848954)\n<\/li>\n<li> Looking to update media\/webrtc\/trunk either late in 36 or early 37 (more likely) with code shared with Chrome 40\n<\/li>\n<li> Major rewrite of webrtc signaling about to land\n<ul>\n<li> Moving towards renegotiation and multiple streams\n<\/li>\n<li> bwc++!\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Mac Support for MP4\/h264\/AAC switched off in beta and will not release in 34, expected to ship in 35. (bug 1068455\u200f and bug 1070703)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Necko_.28dougt.2Fjduell.29\">Necko (dougt\/jduell)<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: maroon\">&lt;Read Only&gt;<\/span>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> No update this week.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Roundtable\">Roundtable<\/h2>\n<p><small>(Comments and questions that arise during the course of the meeting or otherwise do not have a section.)<\/small>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> (lmandel) Less sheriff coverage this week. You may want to handle your own landings.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\".3CRead_only_beyond_this_point.3E\">&lt;Read only beyond this point&gt;<\/h2>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Mailing_List_Threads\">Mailing List Threads<\/h3>\n<p><small>(Threads that are likely to be of interest to engineering from various mailing lists.)<\/small>\n<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Good_Reads\">Good Reads<\/h3>\n<p><small>(Links to blog posts, books, videos, etc. that you think will be of interest to others.)<\/small>\n<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"irc_.23planning_Log_From_This_Meeting\">irc #planning Log From This Meeting<\/h3>\n<pre><\/pre>\n<hr>\n<div class=\"h-event vevent\">\n<p><b><span class=\"p-summary summary\">Engineering Meeting<\/span> Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <span class=\"dt-start dtstart\">Tuesday <span class=\"value\">2014-11-18<\/span> &#8211; <span class=\"value\">11:00<\/span> am <abbr class=\"value\" title=\"-0800\">Pacific Standard Time<\/abbr><\/span>\n<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Teleconferencing\" title=\"Teleconferencing\">Dial-in<\/a>: conference# 98411\n<ul>\n<li> US\/Toll-free: +1 800 707 2533, (pin 369) Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<li> US\/California\/Mountain View: +1 650 903 0800, x92 Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<li> US\/California\/San Francisco: +1 415 762 5700, x92 Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<li> US\/Oregon\/Portland: +1 971 544 8000, x92 Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<li> CA\/British Columbia\/Vancouver: +1 778 785 1540, x92 Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<li> CA\/Ontario\/Toronto: +1 416 848 3114, x92 Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<li> UK\/London: +44 (0)207 855 3000, x92 Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<li> FR\/Paris: +33 1 44 79 34 80, x92 Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> <span class=\"location\"><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/v.mozilla.com\/flex.html?roomdirect.html&amp;key=T2v8Pi8WuTRc\" rel=\"nofollow\">Engineering Vidyo Room<\/a> \/ <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/air.mozilla.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Air Mozilla<\/a> \/ MTV Alien Nation \/ TOR Finch \/ SFO Warfield \/ PDX Hair of the Dog<\/span>\n<\/li>\n<li> join irc.mozilla.org <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\" rel=\"nofollow\">#planning<\/a> for back channel\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\n\t\t\t\tRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2014-11-18&amp;oldid=1034548\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2014-11-18&amp;oldid=1034548<\/a>&#8221;\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Need To Know (Release and system issues that may impact engineering this week.) 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