{"id":2007,"date":"2014-12-10T00:00:04","date_gmt":"2014-12-10T04:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/?p=2007"},"modified":"2014-12-10T00:00:04","modified_gmt":"2014-12-10T04:00:04","slug":"mozilla-platform-2014-12-09","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/2007","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform: 2014-12-09"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div class=\"mw-content-ltr\" dir=\"ltr\" id=\"mw-content-text\" lang=\"en\">\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Need_To_Know\">Need To Know<\/h2>\n<p><small>(Release and system issues that may impact engineering this week.)<\/small>\n<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Notices.2FSchedule_.28lsblakk.2Fsylvestre.2Flmandel.29\">Notices\/Schedule (lsblakk\/sylvestre\/lmandel)<\/h3>\n<table cellpadding=\"10\" class=\"wikitable\" style=\"color: green;background-color: #ffffcc\">\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"2\"><big>Next Merge:<\/big> <b>January 12, 2015<\/b>\n<\/td>\n<td colspan=\"2\"><big>Next Release:<\/big> <b>January 13, 2015<\/b><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th colspan=\"4\" style=\"color: black\">Trains<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Central: 37\n<\/td>\n<td>Aurora: 36\n<\/td>\n<td>Beta: 35\n<\/td>\n<td>Release: 34<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<ul>\n<li> Firefox 34.0.5 updates are enabled at 100% as of this morning\n<\/li>\n<li> We might need to do a mobile-only 34.0.1\n<\/li>\n<li> Firefox Beta 35.0b2 shipping today\n<\/li>\n<li> Fennec Beta 35.0b2 delayed go to build until Thursday\n<ul>\n<li> We&#8217;re still working on split apk for Gingerbread users, should have that in place in the next couple of weeks\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Build_Changes_.28gps.29\">Build Changes (gps)<\/h3>\n<p><small>(Build changes of which engineers should be aware.)<\/small><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"RelEng_.28catlee.29\">RelEng (catlee)<\/h3>\n<p><small>(Repo, test, and other information for engineers from the release engineering team.)<\/small><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Upcoming_Outages.2FUpgrades\">Upcoming Outages\/Upgrades<\/h3>\n<p><small>(System outages\/upgrades and tree closures that impact engineering.)<\/small>\n<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Quality_Programs\">Quality Programs<\/h2>\n<p><small>(An opportunity to hear about status with the various quality programs that do not have a formal team structure.)<\/small>\n<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"MemShrink_.28njn.29\">MemShrink (njn)<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: maroon\">&lt;Read Only&gt;<\/span><br \/>\nNo update.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Team_Stand-ups\">Team Stand-ups<\/h2>\n<p><small>(In &lt;2 mins, what did your team accomplish last week, on what is your team working on this week, and on what, if anything, is your team blocked? No questions during the stand-ups. All questions should be asked during the roundtable.)<\/small>\n<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Electrolysis_.28e10s.29_.28blassey.29\">Electrolysis (e10s) (blassey)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Please help test e10s in Nightly!\n<ul>\n<li> Known issues: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Electrolysis#What_to_Expect\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Electrolysis#What_to_Expect<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"GFX_.28milan.29\">GFX (milan)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> B2G: the follow up to 2.1 (&#8220;2.X&#8221;) looks to be based on Gecko 37&#8230;\n<ul>\n<li> Graphics plans are unchanged from 2.2 to 2.X\n<\/li>\n<li> Graphics plans were based on Gecko 38\n<\/li>\n<li> So&#8230; will likely keep the 38 time frame and uplift to B2G 37 branch past the trunk.  Will figure it out by mid January when this becomes relevant.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"JS_.28naveed.29\">JS (naveed)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Work Week\n<ul>\n<li> Shumway load time is highest priority\n<\/li>\n<li> 2015 Planning (more on this to come)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Layout_.28jet.2Fdbaron.29\">Layout (jet\/dbaron)<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: maroon\">&lt;Read Only&gt;<\/span>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Investigating <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1107378\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1107378<\/a> to fix webkit-dependent sites in China added to a mobile (fennec) fix-list.\n<\/li>\n<li> Landed <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1089417\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1089417<\/a> &#8211; restyling fixes for CSS media queries\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Media_.28mreavy.29\">Media (mreavy)<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: maroon\">&lt;Read Only&gt;<\/span>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 1. What has your team done since last week that might impact others?\n<ul>\n<li> Hello is in Release\/34!  Early reviews are generally good (and recognize the differences for privacy compared to say Skype).\n<\/li>\n<li> Landed sdparta! <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1091242\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1091242<\/a> &#8211;  (rewrite of the majority of webrtc signaling, other than the parsing).\n<ul>\n<li> Known regression <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1109130\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1109130<\/a> breaks &lt; MSVC 2013 compiles; fix shortly\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Lots of great discussions at #mozlandia\n<\/li>\n<li> FoxEye presentation (echoes of roc&#8217;s older MediaStream Processing proposal)\n<\/li>\n<li> Work moving forward towards multiple streams of a type and renegotiation\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> 2. What will your team do this week that might impact others?\n<ul>\n<li> Starting work towards a webrtc.org update\n<\/li>\n<li> More sdparta work\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Performance_.28vladan.29\">Performance (vladan)<\/h3>\n<p>1. What has your team done since last week that might impact others?\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1107779\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1107779<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1107782\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1107782<\/a>: Avi found that the &#8220;activeTicks&#8221; FHR measurement significantly over-reports Firefox usage time, because Firefox fires &#8220;user-interaction-active&#8221; notifications while the mouse cursor is positioned over the browser even when the user is away from the computer\n<ul>\n<li> Should we just land the fix, or is it important to maintain continuity with the current measurement (for monitoring for relative changes)?\n<\/li>\n<li> The above bugs are unrelated to the big drop in activeTicks reported in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1096498\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1096498<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Talos numbers for most E10s tests are available\n<ul>\n<li> we&#8217;re still converting some tests, e.g. tresize\n<\/li>\n<li> there are serious regressions from E10S, e.g. WebGL is <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/graphs.mozilla.org\/graph.html#tests=%5B%5B325,1,41%5D,%5B325,1,47%5D,%5B325,1,33%5D,%5B325,1,25%5D%5D&amp;sel=none&amp;displayrange=30&amp;datatype=running\" rel=\"nofollow\">4x worse on Windows<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> Joel Maher said he&#8217;ll write a blog post summarizing Talos regressions\/improvements from E10S\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Spark is the new, much faster way of analyzing large amounts of Telemetry data:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/robertovitillo.com\/2014\/11\/29\/a-telemetry-api-for-spark\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/robertovitillo.com\/2014\/11\/29\/a-telemetry-api-for-spark\/<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/www.slideshare.net\/RobertoAgostinoVitil\/spark-meets-telemetry\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/www.slideshare.net\/RobertoAgostinoVitil\/spark-meets-telemetry<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>2. What will your team do this week that might impact others?\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=998863\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 998863<\/a>: Almost ready to land asynchronous initialization of out-of-process plugins\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>3. Is anything slowing your team down or getting in their way?\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=998863\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 998863<\/a>: Need one more review for asynchronous initialization of out-of-process plugins\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Shumway_.28tschneidereit.29\">Shumway (tschneidereit)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> As part of the FlashKill initiative, the Shumway team&#8217;s Q1 goal is to whitelist Shumway for Facebook&#8217;s Flash Video Player:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Shumway\/Roadmap#FB1_Milestone\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Shumway\/Roadmap#FB1_Milestone<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> Facebook test videos: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/gopro\/videos\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/gopro\/videos<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Working with JS team on JS startup performance and Media team on video buffering.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Roundtable\">Roundtable<\/h2>\n<p><small>(Comments and questions that arise during the course of the meeting or otherwise do not have a section.)<\/small>\n<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Touch_input_standardization_update_.28mbrubeck.29\">Touch input standardization update (mbrubeck)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/pointerevents\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">W3C Pointer Events<\/a> going to Proposed Rec.  Shipping in IE, portions shipping in Chrome, partially implemented in Gecko.\n<ul>\n<li> Chrome and Safari have no plans to ship full Pointer Events implementation.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/community\/touchevents\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Touch Events CG<\/a> is actively discussing errata and extensions, about to start a weekly-ish telecon.  Let me know if you want to get involved.\n<\/li>\n<li> <b><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Gecko\/Touch\" title=\"Gecko\/Touch\">Gecko\/Touch<\/a><\/b> has a breakdown of our implementation status and various missing pieces.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Links\">Links<\/h2>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Mailing_List_Threads\">Mailing List Threads<\/h3>\n<p><small>(Threads that are likely to be of interest to engineering from various mailing lists.)<\/small>\n<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Good_Reads\">Good Reads<\/h3>\n<p><small>(Links to blog posts, books, videos, etc. that you think will be of interest to others.)<\/small>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>&#8220;Mastering Version Control at Mozilla&#8221;<\/b> (Gregory Szorc)\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~gszorc\/mastering-vcs\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~gszorc\/mastering-vcs\/<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>&#8220;How Microsoft Uses C++ to Deliver Office Across iOS, Android, Windows, and Mac&#8221;<\/b> (CppCon 2014 video)\n<ul>\n<li> Part 1: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=3HROqnw-nf4\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=3HROqnw-nf4<\/a> (one hour)\n<\/li>\n<li> Part 2: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MGMoRu5yrVc\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MGMoRu5yrVc<\/a> (one hour)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>&#8220;Emscripten and asm.js: C++&#8217;s role in the modern web&#8221;<\/b> (CppCon 2014 video with Mozilla&#8217;s own Alon Zakai)\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=JhMlWj4tCDo\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=JhMlWj4tCDo<\/a> (one hour)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"irc_.23planning_Log_From_This_Meeting\">irc #planning Log From This Meeting<\/h3>\n<pre><\/pre>\n<hr>\n<div class=\"h-event vevent\">\n<p><b><span class=\"p-summary summary\">Engineering Meeting<\/span> Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <span class=\"dt-start dtstart\">Tuesday <span class=\"value\">2014-12-09<\/span> &#8211; <span class=\"value\">11:00<\/span> am <abbr class=\"value\" title=\"-0800\">Pacific Standard Time<\/abbr><\/span>\n<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Teleconferencing\" title=\"Teleconferencing\">Dial-in<\/a>: conference# 98411\n<ul>\n<li> US\/Toll-free: +1 800 707 2533, (pin 369) Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<li> US\/California\/Mountain View: +1 650 903 0800, x92 Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<li> US\/California\/San Francisco: +1 415 762 5700, x92 Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<li> US\/Oregon\/Portland: +1 971 544 8000, x92 Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<li> CA\/British Columbia\/Vancouver: +1 778 785 1540, x92 Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<li> CA\/Ontario\/Toronto: +1 416 848 3114, x92 Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<li> UK\/London: +44 (0)207 855 3000, x92 Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<li> FR\/Paris: +33 1 44 79 34 80, x92 Conf# 98411\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> <span class=\"location\"><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/v.mozilla.com\/flex.html?roomdirect.html&amp;key=T2v8Pi8WuTRc\" rel=\"nofollow\">Engineering Vidyo Room<\/a> \/ <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/air.mozilla.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Air Mozilla<\/a> \/ MTV Alien Nation \/ TOR Finch \/ SFO Warfield \/ PDX Hair of the Dog<\/span>\n<\/li>\n<li> join irc.mozilla.org <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\" rel=\"nofollow\">#planning<\/a> for back channel\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\n\t\t\t\tRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2014-12-09&amp;oldid=1039670\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2014-12-09&amp;oldid=1039670<\/a>&#8221;\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Need To Know (Release and system issues that may impact engineering this week.) 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