{"id":2164,"date":"2015-04-29T23:00:26","date_gmt":"2015-04-30T03:00:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/?p=2164"},"modified":"2015-04-29T23:00:26","modified_gmt":"2015-04-30T03:00:26","slug":"channel-2015-04-29","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/2164","title":{"rendered":"Channel: 2015-04-29"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div class=\"mw-content-ltr\" dir=\"ltr\" id=\"mw-content-text\" lang=\"en\">\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Attendees\">Attendees<\/h2>\n<p>lmandel, sylvestre, roland, rrayborn, lizzard, hwine, kbrosnan, jenstrickland, elan, kairo, jorge, mschmidt, ryanvm\n<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Schedule_Update\">Schedule Update<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> 38.0.5 is hitting us hard\n<ul>\n<li> late build of b7:\n<ul>\n<li> l10n migration script not run\n<\/li>\n<li> release automation failed (beta built from m-r)\n<\/li>\n<li> Too late for QE sign off\n<\/li>\n<li> Decided not to release (which was an excellent choice: we would have create a big(ger) mess)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<ul>\n<li> b8: sign off postpone because of a branding issue affecting both desktop &amp; mobile\n<ul>\n<li> now hitting CDN cache issue\n<\/li>\n<li> one good news: mobile is live\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> The next GTB (beta 9) is Wednesday, go live Thursday (May 1st is an holiday)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> I will be still tracking the 38 bugs as we have 38.0.5 (the same flags being used for the two versions&#8230; Yeh, I know\u00a0:\/)   proposing new bugzilla tracking flag.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> DXVA disabled &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1157764\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1157764<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Sylvestre will be in pto May 9 =&gt; 16 (planned before Lukas left us)\n<ul>\n<li> lmandel is covering\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Add-ons\">Add-ons<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> AMO signed ~400 add-ons as a proof of concept of add-on signing.  Fx28 and earlier have a different parser and crashed.  The signing was reverted. <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1158467\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1158467<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Stability\">Stability<\/h2>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Aurora_.2F_Dev_Edition\">Aurora \/ Dev Edition<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Overall rate: 2.0 browser, 0.4\/1.0 plugin crash\/hang (target: &lt;1.5; 0.07\/0.14)\n<\/li>\n<li> browser side is getting into decent shape for beta, but plugin side still far away from it\n<ul>\n<li> aklotz still looking into issues, making some progress\n<\/li>\n<li> move it to 40\u00a0?\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Beta\">Beta<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Overall rate: 1.54 (target: &lt;1.4, including shutdownhangs )\n<\/li>\n<li> bug 1116812 (TDRs) is 3.7% in 38.0b6 data, bug 1157764 might help with that\n<\/li>\n<li> bug 1127270 (layers::CompositorParent::ShutDown) is 3.6%\n<\/li>\n<li> bug 1141089 (ContainerState::InvalidateForLayerChange) is 1.7%, only data-gathering patches so far\n<\/li>\n<li> bug 1153558 (gfx, msvcr120.dll) is 1.5%, patch for bug 1133119 should help and be in b78\n<\/li>\n<li> bug 1154003 (FillRectangle) is 1.5%, patch should be in b78\n<\/li>\n<li> bug 1143806 (layers::SyncObjectD3D11::FinalizeFrame) is 1%, patch might not help 38\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> bug 1154703 (startup, layers::CompositorD3D11::Initialize) is #1 in top crash score (but startup might be to aggressive in score factor atm), patch is in b9\n<\/li>\n<li> bug 1130061 (webrtc::videocapturemodule::DeviceInfoDS::CreateCapabilityMap) is #5, 0.5% overall, patch also in b9\n<\/li>\n<li> top crash score prototype can be viewed here, now with useful indicators: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/crash-analysis.mozilla.com\/rkaiser\/crash-report-tools\/score\/?version=38.0b6&amp;limit=40\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/crash-analysis.mozilla.com\/rkaiser\/crash-report-tools\/score\/?version=38.0b6&amp;limit=40<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Release\">Release<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Overall rate: 1.28 (37.0.1 had 1.33, 36 had ~1.2, 35 .8-.85)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"QE\">QE<\/h2>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Beta_3\">Beta<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Push to beta will come shortly after this meeting, looks like CDNs are finally fine.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"User_Advocacy\">User Advocacy<\/h2>\n<p>Trusteer Rapport is broken<br \/>\nKeeping an eye on MSE, not noticing compelling qualitative feedback, doing some more quantitative stuff today.\n<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Roundtable\">Roundtable<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Any objection to having a tracking-flags firefox-status 38.0.5\u00a0?\n<ul>\n<li> The sheriff script not ready for this. We will have different issues\n<\/li>\n<li> Sylvestre is going to take care of that\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Do we need to plan for beta 10 early next week?\n<ul>\n<li> rc1\/2 instead of a beta 10\n<\/li>\n<li> gtb on sunday b10 (or rc1)\u00a0?\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> When\/how should we do the merges?\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Initially, we planned to merge m-b into m-r\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> release is 38.0.5 m-b 39 relbranch for 38\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Option 1)<br \/>\nWe do this merge:<br \/>\n39 will be in m-b<br \/>\n38.0.5 will be in m-r<br \/>\nSide effect =&gt; 39 won&#8217;t have any more testing until June 2nd May 26.  Main risk there is for suggested tiles. <\/p>\n<p>Option 2)<br \/>\nWe don&#8217;t do this merge:<br \/>\n39 will live in m-a for a few more weeks.<br \/>\n38.0.5 beta will be built from m-b<br \/>\n38.0 will live in m-r (and we don&#8217;t have to use relbranch)<br \/>\nSide effect =&gt; 40 will be in m-a later and we want to communicate on this.<br \/>\nAlso means that 40 will be on m-c longer delaying the start of 41<\/p>\n<p>Option 3)<br \/>\nPostpone 38.0\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Draft of postmortem:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/38-0-Post-Mortem\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.org\/38-0-Post-Mortem<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> OpenH264 update shipped to desktop Nightly, making its way to release (see thread on r-d)\n<\/li>\n<li> Sync migration prompts have been enabled (bug 1154991)\n<\/li>\n<li> YouTube MSE enabled again for small percent of 37.0.x release population on Windows\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Special_Topics\">Special Topics<\/h2>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Aurora.2FBeta_Feature_Review\">Aurora\/Beta Feature Review<\/h3>\n<p>39\n<\/p>\n<hr>\n<ul>\n<li> Suggested tiles: Many open bugs. Slated for 39 anyway.  Bug 1140185.\n<\/li>\n<li> Async plugin init: Disabled in 38. Still unstable. May not ride to beta on 39.  Bug 1116806.\n<\/li>\n<li> Vertical text support: Likely to be disabled when 39 moves to Beta. Bug 1138384.\n<\/li>\n<li> FHR\/Telemetry unification: May be disabled when 39 moves to Beta. Bug 1139460.\n<\/li>\n<li> Sharing urls from Hello: On track for 39 release. Bug 1132301.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Great stuff! thanks!\n<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><b>Channel Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Tuesdays and Thursdays at 10am Pacific Time\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\" rel=\"nofollow\">irc.mozilla.org #planning<\/a> for backchannel\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Video\/Teleconference Details &#8211; NEW<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# <b>99951<\/b> (US\/INTL)\n<\/li>\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# <b>99951<\/b> (US)\n<\/li>\n<li> Vidyo Room: <b>ReleaseCoordination<\/b>\n<\/li>\n<li> Vidyo <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/v.mozilla.com\/flex.html?roomdirect.html&amp;key=EXysadF68Dac\" rel=\"nofollow\">Guest URL<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\n\t\t\t\tRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Firefox\/Channels\/Meetings\/2015-04-29&amp;oldid=1071036\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Firefox\/Channels\/Meetings\/2015-04-29&amp;oldid=1071036<\/a>&#8221;\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Attendees lmandel, sylvestre, roland, rrayborn, lizzard, hwine, kbrosnan, jenstrickland, elan, kairo, jorge, mschmidt, ryanvm Schedule Update 38.0.5 is hitting us hard late build of b7: l10n migration script not run release automation failed (beta built from m-r) Too late for QE sign off Decided not to release (which was an excellent choice: we would have [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[29736],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2164"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2164"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2164\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2164"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2164"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2164"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}