{"id":2297,"date":"2015-12-02T00:00:04","date_gmt":"2015-12-02T04:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/?p=2297"},"modified":"2015-12-02T00:00:05","modified_gmt":"2015-12-02T04:00:05","slug":"thunderbird-2015-12-01","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/2297","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird: 2015-12-01"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div class=\"mw-content-ltr\" dir=\"ltr\" id=\"mw-content-text\" lang=\"en\">\n<p>Thunderbird notes 2015-12-01. NOON PT (Pacific).  For meeting time, previous notes and call-in details see <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings<\/a>  <\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Attendees\">Attendees<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> jorgk, fallen, ba, wsmwk, mkmelin,MakeMyDay, rkent, marcoagpinto, roker\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"MAIN_FOCUS_OF_MEETING\">MAIN FOCUS OF MEETING<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> version 45\n<\/li>\n<li> governance, futures\n<\/li>\n<li> builds\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Action_items_from_last_meetings\">Action items from last meetings<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Thunderbird Council reorganization: we&#8217;ll discuss this in the Council directly and do some reorganization. This is not a forever governance plan, but we need to be practical given the many demands of the moment.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Current_status_.2F_Announcements\">Current status \/ Announcements<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Etherpads see list of names at  <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird<\/a> and  <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/calendar\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/calendar<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird38-support-issues\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird38-support-issues<\/a> for version 38 ESR issues\n<\/li>\n<li> Tree status issues: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird-tree-status\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird-tree-status<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Please help green up the tree &#8211; including not only c-c but also esr38, beta, and aurora\n<ul>\n<li> Please be aggressive filing bugs, and fixing what you can, so dev checkins can occur when patches become available.\n<\/li>\n<li> If a bug breaks nightly or beta build or tests, please make severity=blocker\n<\/li>\n<li> Please prioritize reviews\/feedback requests in your queue that are tree issues!\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Thunderbird 45: string freeze 2015-12-14, interface freeze later (that&#8217;s me demanding a concession like last year).\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Current_Release_Critical_Issues\">Current Release Critical Issues<\/h3>\n<p>Leave critical bugs here until confirmed fixed. If confirmed, then remove.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> tracking-tb38 flags:  approved(+)+unfixed in ESR: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/mzl.la\/1LDrkxP\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/mzl.la\/1LDrkxP<\/a>    nominated(?): <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/pgwflyg\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/pgwflyg<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>blocking\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 38.3.1 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1211160\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1211160<\/a> calendar 4.0.3.1 is a workaround for 38.3.0 \u2014 Thunderbird Version 38.3 Buttons not working menu items \/\/ <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1211291\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1211291<\/a> &#8211; Folders are visible, but messages are not. (?related to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1211358\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1211358<\/a>  lightning chrome.manifest not updated in 38.3.0\u00a0?)\n<\/li>\n<li> nightly (3 bugs blocking builds, all are assigned) &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1195442\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1195442<\/a> &#8211; Mac builds broken ~1 month on nightly\n<\/li>\n<li> rkent is working on it &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1183490\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1183490<\/a> &#8211; (dataloss) New emails do not adhere to sort by order received\n<ul>\n<li> Plan is to understand issues in converting completely to nextKey = ++lastKey for non-IMAP, then plan how much to implement for 38.3.0  A simple fix of the dataloss is probable. I have a try patch that does the nextKey = ++lastKey that works, now I need to think about patch for 38 (bug 1202105 needs to go to trunk and 38)\n<\/li>\n<li> update 2015-10-20, patches have been posted but waiting for reviews for 2 weeks (aceman will look at those)\n<\/li>\n<li> update 2015-11-17, review done 11-14, need to update and land.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>important (but not top critical)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> status TBD &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1182629\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1182629<\/a> &#8211; update to 38.1.0 from 38.0.1 re-enables disabled Lightning\n<\/li>\n<li> status TBD &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1176399\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1176399<\/a> &#8211; Multiple master password when GMail OAuth2 is enabled\n<\/li>\n<li> status TBD &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1176748\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1176748<\/a> &#8211; fix main thread proxies to the migration code (jorgk and m_kato have done such fixes in the past)\n<\/li>\n<li> filelink, proxy,\n<\/li>\n<li> topcrash <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1149287\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1149287<\/a> is ** 31% of our crashes** &#8211; see below\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Version_45\">Version 45<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> tracking-tb45 flags: unfixed\u00a0?\/+ &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/mzl.la\/1PMzNiK\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/mzl.la\/1PMzNiK<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> Items that may need to be checked and tested: gtk3, windows 10, windows 64bit?\n<\/li>\n<li> hardware acceleration &#8211; not looking promising (no changes \/ no testing in recent months)\n<\/li>\n<li> jsaccount should come in aurora\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Releases\">Releases<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Past\n<ul>\n<li> 38.0.1 nominally shipped 2015-06-12, 38.1.0 shipped 2015-07-10, 31.8.0 shipped 2015-07-17, 40.0beta shipped 2015-07-27 (skipping 39.0b), 38.2.0 shipped 2015-08-14, 41.0b1 2015-09-08 build2 (missed ~2015-08-10)\n<\/li>\n<li> 41.0b2  (with uplifts for 38.3.0)\n<\/li>\n<li> 38.3.0 ~2015-09-25 (throttled on 2015-10-06)\n<\/li>\n<li> 42.0b2 2015-10-13 (42.0b1 abandoned)\n<\/li>\n<li> 42.0b3 ~2015-09-23  (skipped)\n<\/li>\n<li> 38.4.0 2015-11-25  (quite late) &#8211; many release notes issues\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Upcoming &#8211;  <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/RapidRelease\/Calendar#Future_branch_dates\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/RapidRelease\/Calendar#Future_branch_dates<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> 43.0b1  starting this week     <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird-release-43b1\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird-release-43b1<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> STRING FREEZE for version 45 in 2 weeks &#8211; 2015-12-14\n<\/li>\n<li> 38.5.0 ~2015-12-14 ~3 weeks\n<\/li>\n<li> 44.0b1 ~2015-12-14 ~3 weeks\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Lightning\">Lightning<\/h3>\n<p>Past releases:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 4.0.1.2 &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1182264\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1182264<\/a>, 4.0.2.1 &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1194997\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1194997<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> 4.0.3, 4.0.3.1 (no changes compared to 4.0.2.1)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Upcoming  releases:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 4.0.4 &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1215969\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1215969<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> 4.7.0 &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1225778\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1225778<\/a> (TB 45)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Round_Table\">Round Table<\/h3>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Jorg_K\">Jorg K<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Landed six patches\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1219928\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1219928<\/a> &#8211; M-C spell checker problem\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=586587\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 586587<\/a> + one more &#8211; M-C drag and drop onto editor window\n<\/li>\n<li> ((bug|1226537}} &#8211; C-C spell check in subject problem\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1214377\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1214377<\/a> &#8211; M-C editor problem, copy\/paste &#8211; &#8220;white-space: pre;&#8221;\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1225864\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1225864<\/a> &#8211; M-C CJK route cause of problem in the serialiser\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Awaiting review:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=769604\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 769604<\/a> &#8211; C-C font size toolbar button and change increase\/decrease size function.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1225904\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1225904<\/a> &#8211; C-C CJK e-mail with long lines gets corrupted\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=653342\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 653342<\/a> &#8211; C-C CJK fix serializer flags, support delsp=yes, tie all CJK issues altogether. Automatically fixes <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=26734\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 26734<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> (Attended Mozilla Berlin &#8220;Tech Meeting&#8221;: Firefox OS, Telemetry, Servo\/Rust)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"aceman\">aceman<\/h4>\n<p>Assisting Thomas D. to drive the patches to fix determining the send format (plain\/HTML) of outgoing messages:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=136502\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 136502<\/a> &#8211; landed\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=584313\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 584313<\/a> &#8211; needs review in compose.cpp (e.g. Neil)\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1222176\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1222176<\/a> &#8211; patch with tests prepared, needs reviews\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"wsmwk\">wsmwk<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> 38.4.0\n<ul>\n<li> built and shipped\n<\/li>\n<li> tracking Lightning related update issues <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1215828\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1215828<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> new etherpad   <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird-encryption\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird-encryption<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"rkent\">rkent<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> I was away for a full week for Thanksgiving, just back today, and have a ear infection as well, so has not been a good week. Responding to the pEp proposals, and Mitchell&#8217;s post, are my main priorities at the moment.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Friends_of_the_tree\">Friends of the tree<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> congrats to kohei who was recognized for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Add-ons\/Contribute\/Recognition#November_2015\" rel=\"nofollow\">&#8220;creating the Thunderbird version of the Get the Add-on button&#8221;<\/a>  (and has done a ton of work moving dozens of Thunderbird web pages to bedrock)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Action_Items\">Action Items<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> we should really clean up the module owners and peers at <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Modules\/MailNews_Core\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Modules\/MailNews_Core<\/a> and <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Modules\/Thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Modules\/Thunderbird<\/a>. Candidates for removal: Bienvenu, standard8, sid0, JosiahOne.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Help_Wanted\">Help Wanted<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Support lead\n<ul>\n<li> Revise lightning articles on SUMO: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.org\/en-US\/search\/advanced?q=lightning&amp;language=en-US&amp;category=10&amp;category=20&amp;product=thunderbird&amp;sortby_documents=relevance&amp;a=1&amp;w=1\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/support.mozilla.org\/en-US\/search\/advanced?q=lightning&amp;language=en-US&amp;category=10&amp;category=20&amp;product=thunderbird&amp;sortby_documents=relevance&amp;a=1&amp;w=1<\/a>  &#8211; to query articles that needs change: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.org\/en-US\/contributors\/kb-overview?product=thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/support.mozilla.org\/en-US\/contributors\/kb-overview?product=thunderbird<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Accessibility lead\n<\/li>\n<li> persons comfortable (not necessarily technical experts) with Core type issues. Example  graphics to guide <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1195947\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1195947<\/a> Thunderbird hardware acceleration (HWA) issues to be resolved\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\n\t\t\t\tRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2015-12-01&amp;oldid=1108006\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2015-12-01&amp;oldid=1108006<\/a>&#8221;\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird notes 2015-12-01. NOON PT (Pacific). For meeting time, previous notes and call-in details see https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings Attendees jorgk, fallen, ba, wsmwk, mkmelin,MakeMyDay, rkent, marcoagpinto, roker MAIN FOCUS OF MEETING version 45 governance, futures builds Action items from last meetings Thunderbird Council reorganization: we&#8217;ll discuss this in the Council directly and do some reorganization. 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