{"id":2322,"date":"2016-01-27T00:00:05","date_gmt":"2016-01-27T04:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/?p=2322"},"modified":"2016-01-27T00:00:05","modified_gmt":"2016-01-27T04:00:05","slug":"thunderbird-2016-01-26","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/2322","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird: 2016-01-26"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div class=\"mw-content-ltr\" dir=\"ltr\" id=\"mw-content-text\" lang=\"en\">\n<p>Thunderbird notes 2016-01-26. NOON PT (Pacific).  For meeting time, previous notes and call-in details see <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Attendees\">Attendees<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> rkent, ba, jcranmer, wsmwk, Jorg K, marcoagpinto, mkmelin, aceman, sshagarwal (audio only), Paenglab, MakeMyDay\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"MAIN_FOCUS_OF_MEETING\">MAIN FOCUS OF MEETING<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> version 45\n<\/li>\n<li> governance, futures\n<\/li>\n<li> builds\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1211160\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1211160<\/a> &#8211; Why is updates with calendar add-on messing with Thunderbird?\n<ul>\n<li> I (rkent) hope to respond to review comments today.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Action_items_from_last_meetings\">Action items from last meetings<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Thunderbird Council reorganization: we&#8217;ll discuss this in the Council directly and do some reorganization. This is not a forever governance plan, but we need to be practical given the many demands of the moment.\n<ul>\n<li> I (rkent) sent a proposal to the  Council two weeks ago, now I need to badger a few people to give responses and decisions. Gerv has a process of voting to approve the slate using tb-planning that he will be running.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> we should really clean up the module owners and peers at <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Modules\/MailNews_Core\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Modules\/MailNews_Core<\/a> and <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Modules\/Thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Modules\/Thunderbird<\/a>. Candidates for removal: Bienvenu, standard8, sid0, JosiahOne.\n<ul>\n<li> jcranmer??\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Current_status_.2F_Announcements\">Current status \/ Announcements<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Etherpads see list of names at  <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird<\/a> and  <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/calendar\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/calendar<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird38-support-issues\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird38-support-issues<\/a> for version 38 ESR issues\n<\/li>\n<li> Tree issues: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird-tree-status\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/public.etherpad-mozilla.org\/p\/thunderbird-tree-status<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Please help green up the tree &#8211; including not only c-c but also esr38, beta, and aurora\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Current_Release_Critical_Issues\">Current Release Critical Issues<\/h3>\n<p>Leave critical bugs here until confirmed fixed. If confirmed, then remove.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> tracking-tb38 flags:  approved(+)+unfixed in ESR: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/mzl.la\/1LDrkxP\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/mzl.la\/1LDrkxP<\/a>    nominated(?): <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/pgwflyg\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/pgwflyg<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> tracking matrix: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/kent_caspia.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/kent_caspia.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>blocking\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 38.3.1 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1211160\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1211160<\/a> calendar 4.0.3.1 is a workaround for 38.3.0 \u2014 Thunderbird Version 38.3 Buttons not working menu items \/\/ <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1211291\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1211291<\/a> &#8211; Folders are visible, but messages are not. (?related to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1211358\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1211358<\/a>  lightning chrome.manifest not updated in 38.3.0\u00a0?\n<ul>\n<li> rkent has patch, see above\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>important (but not top critical)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> status TBD &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1182629\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1182629<\/a> &#8211; update to 38.1.0 from 38.0.1 re-enables disabled Lightning\n<\/li>\n<li> status TBD &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1176399\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1176399<\/a> &#8211; Multiple master password when GMail OAuth2 is enabled\n<\/li>\n<li> status TBD &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1176748\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1176748<\/a> &#8211; fix main thread proxies to the migration code (jorgk and m_kato have done such fixes in the past)\n<\/li>\n<li> filelink, proxy,\n<\/li>\n<li> topcrash <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1149287\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1149287<\/a> is ** 31% of our crashes** &#8211; see below\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Version_45\">Version 45<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> tracking-tb45 flags: unfixed\u00a0?\/+ &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/mzl.la\/1PMzNiK\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/mzl.la\/1PMzNiK<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> Items that may need to be checked and tested: gtk3, windows 10, windows 64bit?\n<\/li>\n<li> hardware acceleration &#8211; not looking promising (no changes \/ no testing in recent months)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Releases\">Releases<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Past\n<ul>\n<li> 38.5.1\n<\/li>\n<li> 43.0b1 2015-12-31\n<\/li>\n<li> 44.0b1 2016-01-18\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Upcoming &#8211;  <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/RapidRelease\/Calendar#Future_branch_dates\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/RapidRelease\/Calendar#Future_branch_dates<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> 45.0b1\n<\/li>\n<li> 38.6.0\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Lightning\">Lightning<\/h3>\n<p>Past releases:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 4.0.5.1 (bundled)\n<\/li>\n<li> 4.0.5.2 (AMO)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Upcoming  releases:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> 4.0.6 (bundled) (TB 38.6)\n<\/li>\n<li> 4.7.0 &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1225778\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1225778<\/a> (TB 45)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Round_Table\">Round Table<\/h3>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Jorg_K\">Jorg K<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Landed:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1175839\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1175839<\/a> &#8211; JSMime regression, square brackets not quoted correctly.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1231917\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1231917<\/a> &#8211; funny artefacts when replying to a saved message.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1235205\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1235205<\/a> &#8211; dictionary selection problem.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1239658\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1239658<\/a> &#8211; Override charset carried over to the next message processed (part 1).\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1240903\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1240903<\/a> &#8211; Links broken in compose (regression)\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=301712\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 301712<\/a>  &#8211; M-C &#8211; More en-US dictionary clean-up, removed 4000 uncommon names.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1241480\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1241480<\/a> &#8211; Bustage fix.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Awaiting review:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=597369\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 597369<\/a>  &#8211; Override charset carried over to the next message processed (part 2).\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Ongoing:\n<ul>\n<li> Investigating why drafts folder gets corrupted every few months <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1216914\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1216914<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Other work: Aurora Landings\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"jcranmer\">jcranmer<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Review queue is still backlogged\n<ul>\n<li> Most complicated review at this point is the JSAccount stuff\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Looking at JS-ification concerns, see mdat\/tb-planning post\n<ul>\n<li> Current status of JS protocol libraries:\n<ul>\n<li> SASL: Complete, except for NTLM, GSSAPI, and EXTERNAL (not that it&#8217;s easy to pull in)\n<\/li>\n<li> Email-socket: prototyping along with NNTP client\n<\/li>\n<li> NNTP client: I want to test replacing our C++ implementation with this once JSAccount is finished\n<\/li>\n<li> JSMime: I have untested prototypes for message composition for below\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Working on improving JS send implementation\n<ul>\n<li> Current idea is to try to use an internal interface to break the patches into smaller sets\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> PSA: if you&#8217;re touching anything in nsMsgSend or nsMsgCompUtils (or anything else in mailnews\/compose except for nsMsgCompose), PLEASE ADD AN XPCSHELL TEST (or a mozmill test if not possible via xpcshell)&#8230; if you don&#8217;t, it will probably break within a year!\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"sshagarwal\">sshagarwal<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Apologies for being invisible for quite some time\n<\/li>\n<li> Completed delivery format status being persisted in draft feature request: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1202165\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1202165<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> Will be working on Address book visibility issues in AB window and composition sidebar\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"aceman\">aceman<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> We need decision on {{bug|584313)) from a mailnews peer if it can go in (was looked at by Neil and comments were solved)\n<ul>\n<li> Magnus make the call if needed.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=\" rel=\"nofollow\">1202165<\/a> is ready in code (needs review from jcranmer, who gave r- due to test failure). I just work on some additional mozmill tests.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Question_Time\">Question Time<\/h3>\n<p>When will we get 64 bit Thunderbird builds on Windows. They are built right now for Daily, for example:<br \/>\n<a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/ftp.mozilla.org\/pub\/thunderbird\/nightly\/2015\/12\/2015-12-15-03-02-04-comm-central\/thunderbird-46.0a1.en-US.win64.installer.exe\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/ftp.mozilla.org\/pub\/thunderbird\/nightly\/2015\/12\/2015-12-15-03-02-04-comm-central\/thunderbird-46.0a1.en-US.win64.installer.exe<\/a><br \/>\nSee <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=634233\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 634233<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Other\">Other<\/h3>\n<p>European meet-up dates:<br \/>\nTB is looking for events\/dates in March to May timeframe, that would allow the team to meet with possible European partners in Europe. BA to send an e-mail to the TB team with upcoming European events.\n<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Help_Wanted\">Help Wanted<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Support lead\n<ul>\n<li> Revise lightning articles on SUMO: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.org\/en-US\/search\/advanced?q=lightning&amp;language=en-US&amp;category=10&amp;category=20&amp;product=thunderbird&amp;sortby_documents=relevance&amp;a=1&amp;w=1\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/support.mozilla.org\/en-US\/search\/advanced?q=lightning&amp;language=en-US&amp;category=10&amp;category=20&amp;product=thunderbird&amp;sortby_documents=relevance&amp;a=1&amp;w=1<\/a>  &#8211; to query articles that needs change: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.org\/en-US\/contributors\/kb-overview?product=thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/support.mozilla.org\/en-US\/contributors\/kb-overview?product=thunderbird<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Accessibility lead\n<\/li>\n<li> Person comfortable (not necessarily technical experts) with Core type issues. Example,  graphics to guide <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1195947\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1195947<\/a> Thunderbird hardware acceleration (HWA) issues to be resolved\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\n\t\t\t\tRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2016-01-26&amp;oldid=1114402\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2016-01-26&amp;oldid=1114402<\/a>&#8221;\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird notes 2016-01-26. NOON PT (Pacific). For meeting time, previous notes and call-in details see https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings Attendees rkent, ba, jcranmer, wsmwk, Jorg K, marcoagpinto, mkmelin, aceman, sshagarwal (audio only), Paenglab, MakeMyDay MAIN FOCUS OF MEETING version 45 governance, futures builds bug 1211160 &#8211; Why is updates with calendar add-on messing with Thunderbird? 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