{"id":2335,"date":"2016-02-17T00:00:05","date_gmt":"2016-02-17T04:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/?p=2335"},"modified":"2016-02-17T00:00:05","modified_gmt":"2016-02-17T04:00:05","slug":"seamonkey-2016-02-16","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/2335","title":{"rendered":"SeaMonkey: 2016-02-16"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div class=\"mw-content-ltr\" dir=\"ltr\" id=\"mw-content-text\" lang=\"en\">\n<h2 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Agenda\">Agenda<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Who&#8217;s taking minutes? -&gt; <b>Ratty<\/b>\n<\/li>\n<li> Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Rainer Bielefeld for trying to get things organized<\/b>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Action_Items\">Action Items<\/h3>\n<p>(who needs to do what that hasn&#8217;t been recorded in a bug)<br \/>\nWe should assign people to the open items.<\/p>\n<p><b>NEW<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> \u2014\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>OPEN<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> \u2014\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>CLOSED<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> \u2014\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Status_of_the_SeaMonkey_Buildbot_Master_and_Tree\">Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>[frg]<\/b> Is there any hope that Mozilla fixes the build bots? if not an alternate distribution plan should be developed.\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>[IanN]<\/b> I know there is working going on but Callek_cloud9 and ewong|away probably know more.\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>Ratty<\/b> thinks we really should plan for a alternative distribution plan. Suggests Jenkins as an alternative to buildbot. Unfortunately he hasn&#8217;t been able to get a hold of ewong for the last week.\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>IanN<\/b> will talk to our RelEng about this. We need some simple but effective and easy to maintain.\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>[frg]<\/b> l10 seems to be generally broken or problematic. Seeing lots of commits in the Firefox Beta tree.\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>[rsx11m]<\/b> no visible action on getting 2.40 out either\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>[Ratty]<\/b> I may start uploading my private builds to callek.net. Will have to do some coordination with Adrian Kalla who is doing some L10n builds on Linux.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Notes:\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Callek:<\/b> Regarding the windows systems, sadly no progress yet. I&#8217;m hopeful we can get done sooner than later, I&#8217;m realistic expecting it won&#8217;t be until january at earliest.\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>Ewong<\/b> will set up a cron job to do semi regular builds on the loaner machine.\n<ul>\n<li> The loaner machine was decommissioned without notice.\n<\/li>\n<li> Got a new loaner.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1092468\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1092468<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1108970\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1108970<\/a>. Migrating our <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1114876\" rel=\"nofollow\">Windows builders to Win2008<\/a> and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.\n<\/li>\n<li> There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1107635\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1107635<\/a>).\n<\/li>\n<li> Even en-US builds have stopped again. The latest trunk nightlies were 2.43a1 dated 9-Jan-2016 for L32 &amp; L64, 6-Jan-2016 for Mac, and 2.42a1 dated 11-Nov-2015 for W32. No 2.44a1 yet, to parallel Firefox 47.0a1 which is being published every night (or every day depending on your timezone).\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1083689\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1083689<\/a> Langpacks aren&#8217;t updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren&#8217;t uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).\n<\/li>\n<li> For various reasons we don&#8217;t have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.\n<\/li>\n<li> wrt <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1155011\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1155011<\/a>, we already have a Soccoro token.  The patches on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1155013\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1155013<\/a> require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> [2nd February 2016]\n<ul>\n<li> [Tonymec] Building has stopped since 9 January. No tinderbox builds either. [frg] c-c would be clear to me. c-a pulls the wrong Chatzilla and Inspector again. Not sure if this is the cause. See <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1167346\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1167346<\/a>. [IanN] ewong|away has mentioned looking at Jenkins.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> [19th January 2016]\n<ul>\n<li> [comm-central]\n<ul>\n<li> All platforms red because of <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1238428\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1238428<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> frg is having trouble building non en-US debugQA (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1238767\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1238767<\/a>).\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> [8th December 2015]\n<\/li>\n<li> No Update. Ewong is hospitalized. Get well soon!\n<ul>\n<li> Excluding Windows, the tree is green for most part. We&#8217;re down one osx64 slave.\n<\/li>\n<li> Re: Tests. Still broken.\n<ul>\n<li> Currently <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1209378\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1209378<\/a> is in progress to fix the perma-brokeness of our testing infrastructure; but it is &#8216;hard&#8217;.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/RelEng\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/RelEng\">RelEng<\/a> page for the RelEng status history.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Release_Train\">Release Train<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> SeaMonkey 2.39 was released November 8th, 2015.\n<\/li>\n<li> SeaMonkey 2.40 final (tracking <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1233615\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1233615<\/a>) is <s>in progress:<\/s> in limbo.\n<ul>\n<li> Without ewong we are stuck.\n<\/li>\n<li> IanN to check with Callek_cloud9 to see if he can help.\n<\/li>\n<li> build #4 are up for all platforms and locales\n<\/li>\n<li> Windows builds aren&#8217;t signed yet\n<\/li>\n<li> apparently there is an issue with uploading those builds to the new S3 infrastructure <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.seamonkey-project.org\/2016\/02\/04\/update-on-2-40\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">[1]<\/a> See <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1223633\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1223633<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1213721\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1213721<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> comm-release default tip is on 2.41 now.\n<\/li>\n<li> Next merges scheduled for March 7 (February 29th: beta\u2192release).\n<\/li>\n<li> Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/calendar\/embed?src=bW96aWxsYS5jb21fZGJxODRhbnI5aTh0Y25taGFiYXRzdHY1Y29AZ3JvdXAuY2FsZW5kYXIuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbQ\" rel=\"nofollow\">Releases Scheduling<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Extensions_and_Plugins_Compatibility_Tracking\">Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/Basics\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/Basics\">Basics<\/a> page. Please only list current changes here.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/AddonCompat\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/AddonCompat\">Addon Compatibility Listings<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> Lightning betas are up for both 2.40 and 2.41.\n<\/li>\n<li> We are looking for a new place to host the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/AddonCompat\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/AddonCompat\">Addon Compatibility Listings<\/a> for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/forums.mozillazine.org\/viewtopic.php?p=14168717#p14168717\" rel=\"nofollow\">this post<\/a>.\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>Firefox &amp; Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey<\/b> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/addonconverter.fotokraina.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/addonconverter.fotokraina.com\/<\/a><br \/>This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf &#8211; it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there&#8217;s only so much an automated tool like that can do.\n<ul>\n<li> <b><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/forums.mozillazine.org\/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=217009\" rel=\"nofollow\">Lemon Juice<\/a><\/b> continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/lemon-juice\/addonconverter\" rel=\"nofollow\">[2]<\/a>.\n<\/li>\n<li> looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/forums.mozillazine.org\/viewtopic.php?f=40&amp;t=2834855&amp;start=270#p14168717\" rel=\"nofollow\">[3]<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1145026\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1145026<\/a>.\n<\/li>\n<li> Rainer Bielefeld will no longer update the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter. &#8212; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/User:Rrbd\" title=\"User:Rrbd\">Rrbd<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/User_talk:Rrbd\" title=\"User talk:Rrbd\">talk<\/a>) 09:59, 16 August 2015 (PDT)\n<\/li>\n<li> Ratty filed <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1130390\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1130390<\/a> to add a link on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.seamonkey-project.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">seamonkey-projects.org<\/a> to the Firefox &amp; Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.\n<\/li>\n<li> The <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/addonconverter.fotokraina.com\/amo-browsing\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">AMO Browsing for SeaMonkey<\/a> extension, which makes AMO pages a lot more SeaMonkey-friendly, seems mature. (It had 9 successive revisions between 27 September and 3 October, and no change since then.) It was developed by LemonJuice (of Add-on Converter fame), and Tonymec, who tested it and now uses it, supports it enthusiastically. The author proposes to add it as a &#8220;built-in extension&#8221; besides ChatZilla, DOMi and the like. What do you think? (See also <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1145026\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 1145026: AMO Add-On-Descriptions: Add link function leading to SeaMonkey add-on-converter and filling URL input pane<\/a>; the extension actually does much more than the bug&#8217;s Summary implies: for instance it gets rid of the stupid &#8220;You need Firefox 10 or later&#8221; popups.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516026\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 516026<\/a> Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1130854\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1130854<\/a> Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1113183\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1113183<\/a> Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1130852\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1130852<\/a> Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Ratty has the <b>Firefox Devtools up and running<\/b>. We can now use the Firefox Devtools debugger in both remote and local mode.\n<ul>\n<li> Venkman is now totally retired <b>R.I.P.<\/b>.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"2.x_.28Last.2C_Current.2C_Next.29\">2.x (Last, Current, Next)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> SeaMonkey Statistics can be viewed at <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/dataviz.mozilla.org\/t\/public\/views\/SeamonkeyADI\/VersionChannelADI?:embed=y#1\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/dataviz.mozilla.org<\/a> Across all channels we have an approximate ADU of 120k.\n<ul>\n<li> Ratty suggests embedding these graphs somewhere on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.seamonkey-project.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">seamonkey-projects.org<\/a> or <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/dev.seamonkey.at\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/dev.seamonkey.at<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1133728\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1133728<\/a> Look at embedding dataviz information into the SeaMonkey website.\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>Links are broken again. Dataviz views now needs a SSO login. We need to find out how to expose a limited view for public consumption <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1173006\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1173006<\/a>.<\/b>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/Basics\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/Basics\">Basics<\/a> page for the usual reminders.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"2.40\">2.40<\/h4>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&amp;field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey240&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\">open tracking<\/a> (0)<br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?&amp;field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey240&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\">tracking requests<\/a> (6)<br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&amp;target_milestone=seamonkey2.40\" rel=\"nofollow\">targeted<\/a> (0)<br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&amp;f1=OP&amp;v6=fixed&amp;o3=equals&amp;list_id=8372932&amp;v3=fixed&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;o6=notequals&amp;o2=equals&amp;f4=CP&amp;v5=fixed&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;j1=OR&amp;f3=cf_status_seamonkey240&amp;f2=target_milestone&amp;f5=cf_status_seamonkey239&amp;f6=cf_status_seamonkey238&amp;v2=2.40\" rel=\"nofollow\">fixed<\/a> (15)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.seamonkey-project.org\/releases\/seamonkey2.40\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">SeaMonkey 2.40 Release Notes<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"2.Next\">2.Next<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>We have official permission to use the Firefox FxA 2.0 sync servers!<\/b> We need someone to work on porting sync 2.0 over to replace legacy sync code. The finer details of how are so far unknown, but we should have a usable solution before legacy sync is turned off. See: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.swarnava.in\/2014\/02\/new-firefox-sync-has-landed-in-firefox.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly<\/a>. Tracked in:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=998807\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 998807<\/a> Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1003434\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1003434<\/a> Add support for about:sync-progress.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Stalled. Needs a kick.\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=815954\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 815954<\/a> Click-to-Play: Port <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=812562\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 812562<\/a> (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=476108\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 476108<\/a> GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Current breakages:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1209875\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1209875<\/a> did break any builds of 2.41+ containing a localized ChatZilla &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1213641\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1213641<\/a> filled\n<\/li>\n<li> No en-US trunk builds later than 30 November yet (or even 11 November on win32). Aurora is currently building on Linux (L32 \/ L64) only.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:\n<ul>\n<li> Changes to Safe Browsing.\n<\/li>\n<li> Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages\n<ul>\n<li> already affected: config.xul for about:config, Will be fixed in SeaMonkey <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1222816\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1222816<\/a>.\n<\/li>\n<li> Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1097111\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1097111<\/a> &#8211; SeaMonkey tracking in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1133743\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1133743<\/a>.\n<\/li>\n<li> Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>Ratty<\/b> restored about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles [<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1192276\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1192276<\/a>]. Subsequent to Chameleon, Firefox developers have again redesigned the about:privatebrowsing UI to include UI for tracking protection. We should look into picking any changes we like.\n<\/li>\n<li> mozilla-central <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1189918\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1189918<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1190465\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1190465<\/a> allow to fork Toolkit style pages for the classic\/default\/modern theme without harming theme developers. SeaMonkey <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1022354\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1022354<\/a> will move theme overrides to the theme manifests.\n<ul>\n<li> affected pages that should be reverted are about:config [<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1222816\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1222816<\/a>], about:addons [<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1222817\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1222817<\/a>], about:support [<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1222818\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1222818<\/a>] (look ok in Modern but hurt in the Default theme).\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=566746\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 566746<\/a> (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=912031\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 912031<\/a> Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned<\/b>. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=825588\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 825588<\/a> Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=851471\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 851471<\/a> Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=888915\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 888915<\/a> Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. <b>Neil has a WIP patch on hand<\/b>.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> We&#8217;ve picked up he default for <tt>security.tls.version.min<\/tt> from Mozilla Core, but <tt>security.tls.version.fallback-limit<\/tt> is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1123673\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1123673<\/a>).\n<ul>\n<li> Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1084025\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1084025<\/a> disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1123673#c6\" rel=\"nofollow\">[4]<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1198340\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1198340<\/a> The carousel within Add-On Manager can be used for SeaMonkey specific content. TO DO: Find out what sort of format AMO needs for the carousel. Get our webdev person to create necessary content. Submit content for upload to AMO.\n<ul>\n<li> Unfortunately nobody knows exactly how addons.mozilla.works because there&#8217;s no full time developer working on AMO. Ratty was given <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1009759\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1009759<\/a> as an example. So now we need someone who knows python+django.\n<\/li>\n<li> About specific aspects of this problem, see: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1230796\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1230796<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1230804\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1230804<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1230806\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1230806<\/a> and maybe more.\n<\/li>\n<li> [Ratty] The url for the discovery pane is set in a pref. Instantbird points the URL to a chrome XUL document. If we do this we don&#8217;t have to worry about the python stuff.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Feature_List.2C_Planning\">Feature List, Planning<\/h3>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/dev.seamonkey.at\/#bugstats\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug statistics<\/a> for the last two (full) weeks: 17 new, 3 fixed, 6 triaged.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> low triaging effort, low number of new bugs filed.\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>Ratty has a SeaMonkey build with a working Firefox Devtools!!!!<\/b> Relevant patches:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1208112\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1208112<\/a> Package DevTools client in SeaMonkey now that it&#8217;s been moved out of \/browser\/ [checked-in].\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1223338\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1223338<\/a> Add DevTools client L10N language files to SeaMonkey builds [checked-in].\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1223341\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1223341<\/a> Add the Firefox Devtools to the SeaMonkey UI. Waiting for review.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1223344\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1223344<\/a> Some tweaks to gDevTools.jsm to get Devtools working in SeaMonkey [Devtools]. Waiting for review.\n<\/li>\n<li> Not working yet: WebIDE and Responsive Design. But everything else seems to work.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Mozilla wants to <b>separate Firefox and Thunderbird, in infrastructure and organizationally<\/b>, which will likely affect SeaMonkey as well\n<ul>\n<li> discussions in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/groups.google.com\/d\/msg\/mozilla.governance\/kAyVlhfEcXg\/Eqyx1X62BQAJ\" rel=\"nofollow\">mozilla.governance<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/groups.google.com\/forum\/#!topic\/mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey\/MvmEOIOXPxE\" rel=\"nofollow\">mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/groups.google.com\/forum\/#!topic\/tb-planning\/bigvCJtidHE\" rel=\"nofollow\">tb-planning<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.lizardwrangler.com\/2015\/12\/03\/thunderbird-update\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">blog.lizardwrangler.com<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> unclear at this time what &#8220;separating the infrastructure&#8221; means\n<\/li>\n<li> likely goes hand-in-hand with planned reduction of key features and future deprecation of the Gecko rendering engine\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>Fundamental core features<\/b> Firefox\/Mozilla plans to remove:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1222546\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1222546<\/a> Product plan: remove support for heavyweight themes\n<ul>\n<li> if effective for all Toolkit applications, would render most 3rd-party themes disfunct\n<\/li>\n<li> no sufficiently plausible specifics provided &#8216;why&#8217; full themes &#8216;must&#8217; no longer be supported\n<ul>\n<li> no clear statements by the Firefox drivers, bug has been restricted for comments since\n<\/li>\n<li> discussion diverted to <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/discourse.mozilla-community.org\/t\/planning-the-future-of-complete-themes\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/discourse.mozilla-community.org\/t\/planning-the-future-of-complete-themes\/<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> see bsmedberg&#8217;s post <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/discourse.mozilla-community.org\/t\/planning-the-future-of-complete-themes\/5306\/14\" rel=\"nofollow\">#14<\/a>, targeted for Gecko 49 (April 2016).\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> may prohibit Modern theme being shipped with or installed in SeaMonkey\n<\/li>\n<li> removal is &#8220;decided&#8221; without any clear alternative envisioned\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> The toolkit help viewer is going away. Neil is working on resuscitating the old XPFE help viewer which apparently has more features.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> <b>IanN<\/b> thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups \/ forums that they can contribute by triaging. <b>Tonymec<\/b> will post a reminder to newsgroups \/ forums. See <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1092632\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1092632<\/a> <tt>(Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs<\/tt>.\n<ul>\n<li> The HowTo page has been moved to <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/QA\/Triage_HowTo\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/QA\/Triage HowTo\">SeaMonkey\/QA\/Triage HowTo<\/a>. No one having objected (or even reacted), <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1092632\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1092632<\/a> is now RESOLVED FIXED. See its comment #18 for the announcement URLs.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/chart.cgi?category=-All-&amp;subcategory=-All-&amp;name=1183&amp;label0=SM-with-review%3F-requests&amp;line0=1928&amp;label1=SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&amp;line1=1929&amp;gt=1&amp;labelgt=Grand+Total&amp;datefrom=2009-07-15&amp;dateto=&amp;action-wrap=Chart+This+List\" rel=\"nofollow\">Open reviews\/flags<\/a>:<br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20\/%20-All-%20\/%20SM-with-review%3F-requests&amp;series_id=1928&amp;remaction=runseries\" rel=\"nofollow\">66 review<\/a><br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20\/%20-All-%20\/%20SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&amp;series_id=1929&amp;remaction=runseries\" rel=\"nofollow\">6 super-review<\/a><br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=ui-review%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\">1 ui-review<\/a><br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=feedback%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\">14 feedback<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/FeatureList\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/FeatureList\">Feature List<\/a> page for major wanted\/needed features.\n<\/li>\n<li><b>TODO:<\/b>\n<ul>\n<li> Encrypted Media Extensions \/ Digital Rights Management\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1127784\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1127784<\/a> added a preference and UI to enable\/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions, with UI seen in non-release builds only\n<\/li>\n<li> more work appears to be needed to download necessary 3rd-party Content Decryption Modules, some UI can probably be ported from Firefox\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>What about declaring linux-x86_64 builds found at seamonkey-project.org and at ftp.m.o as &#8220;official&#8221;\u00a0?<\/b>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>On October 7 two people asked in #seamonkey at a few minutes&#8217; interval when there would be &#8220;official&#8221; 64-bit SM builds for Linux. I pointed them to the x86_64 release at the bottom of the &#8220;Other languages&#8221; release page for 2.38 and to the x86_64 2.40a2 aurora &amp; 2.41a1 trunk builds at the bottom of the ftp.m.o nightly\/latest-comm-* pages but they said these were not &#8220;official&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>So \u2014 how are we going to get out of the following vicious circle? 64-bit builds are not &#8220;official&#8221; because too few users, and users don&#8217;t install them (some even prefer compiling their own) because they aren&#8217;t &#8220;official&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe change the online documentation? (perhaps as part of <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1208822\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1208822<\/a> &#8220;System Requirements page needs update&#8221;?)<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/User:Tonymec\" title=\"User:Tonymec\">Tonymec<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/User_talk:Tonymec\" title=\"User talk:Tonymec\">talk<\/a>) 13:56, 7 October 2015 (PDT)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> [ewong:] what&#8217;s the prerequisites of making the Linux64 builds &#8216;official&#8217; aside for the issue of getting the tests done for Linux64; but our testing infrastructure is busted. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1209378\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1209378<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&#8212; Discussion on locale translations for DOMi and Chatzilla &#8212;\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> [frg] Localized Chatzilla builds currently break suite compile starting with 2.41. See <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1229810\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1229810<\/a> Port <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1228444\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1228444<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1228467\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1228467<\/a> to Chatzilla.\n<\/li>\n<li> [IanN] The tagging has fixed the issue for chatzilla before 2.41 but more is needed for 2.41 and above?\n<\/li>\n<li> [frg]\tYes. The optional language xpi will not compile in 2.41 and is broken in 2.42 and up. install.rdf missing. The main xpi is fine.\n<\/li>\n<li> [IanN] Can you spin a bug off with the steps to generate the optional language xpi for 2.41 along with any errors, similarly another one for 2.42 and up. If it ends up being the same fix, not a problem, bugs are cheap. just cc me.\n<\/li>\n<li> [IanN] Ratty: do we need to start looking at how to overlay Chatzilla and DOMi on top of the TB&#8217;s new merged (c-c + m-c) repository?\n<\/li>\n<li> [Ratty] Not sure. I hope we can continue doing what we have been doing using nested repositories. However in the new merged repository. The comm-central client.py is replaced by the mozilla-central client.py so I don&#8217;t know how this will work.\n<\/li>\n<li> [IanN] Merging DOMi into comm-central would make SeaMonkey releases easier. We just need to sort out locale building for DOMi.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Roundtable_-_Personal_Status_Updates\">Roundtable &#8211; Personal Status Updates<\/h3>\n<p>Status Updates from developers &#8211; what are you working on, what&#8217;s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).\n<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"frg\">frg<\/h4>\n<p>Waiting for review:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1055954\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1055954<\/a> popup exceptions are not added. Please review and let me know if it&#8217;s ok. Contains string changes and clock for next merge day is ticking&#8230;\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1188348\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1188348<\/a> data manager: domains invisible for Permissions, Preferences, Passwords. Please review. Clock for next merge day is also ticking here&#8230;\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1200263\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1200263<\/a> Help \u2192 Report Web Forgery &#8230; does nothing.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Working on:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1238767\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1238767<\/a> Localized Suite build fails in DebugQA: Stalled. I think the l10 build system might be responsible and tries to pick up files from the wrong location. Adrin Kalla thinks I need to do an l10 merge only. I disagree because the xpi only explicitly supports en-US builds.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=920951\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 920951<\/a> Update SeaMonkey Safebrowsing preferences to sync with Mozilla-Central: Got it working with an external api key and added a second alternate patch to the bug. Might still needs some work but it blocked and seems to work generally. I can now turn it off again:) Checking downloads would need the new Download Manager imho. Tracking protection might be next on the platter.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Otherwise just looking thru the unassigned bug list and see what I might be able to fix. <\/p>\n<p>Tidbits:<\/p>\n<p>Chatzilla imho only needs one more patch and it should build l10n for 2.41 and up:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1210791\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1210791<\/a> Get rid of XULPPFLAGS in Chatzilla\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Would also need new tags for client.py as stated in:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1167346\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1167346<\/a> comm-aurora builds are not building due to DOMi and Chatzilla pulling from revisions earlier&#8230;\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>This might clear up:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1244467\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1244467<\/a> Localized Builds: Chatzilla language pack missing from Seamonkey installer package\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Other things on my mind:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> enable-optimize=-O2 should be used for Windows release builds. Linux gcc &#8211;enable-optimize optimizes for speed. With VS2013 it optimizes for size. Resulting O2 Windows build feels a lot snappier.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Rainer_Bielefeld\">Rainer Bielefeld<\/h4>\n<dl>\n<dt> currently working on\n<\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.seamonkey-project.org\/2016\/02\/06\/dont-ask-what-seamonkey-can-do-for-you-but-what-you-can-do-for-your-seamonkey\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Coffee Mug Competition<\/a>: We have a winner\n<\/li>\n<li> Bug reporting and confirmation as usual\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<dl>\n<dd>\n<\/dd>\n<dt>  \u00a0\n<\/dt>\n<dd>\n<\/dd>\n<dt> ToDo \/ Pending<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> From <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2016-02-02#Rainer_Bielefeld\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2016-02-02\">SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2016-02-02#Rainer_Bielefeld<\/a>:\n<ul>\n<li> No success with AMO upload of lomon_juice&#8217;s add-on-browser because of license issues\n<\/li>\n<li>  After general fix for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1153577\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1153577<\/a> &#8211; Users should be able to hide the menubar and show it with the ALT key some non-WIN-OS related issues, what might become annoying when we get 2.40 builds\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> See <i>I want to discuss<\/i>!\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/dt>\n<dd>\n<\/dd>\n<dt>  \u00a0\n<\/dt>\n<dd>\n<\/dd>\n<dt> I want to discuss\n<\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<ul>\n<li> <i><b>How to track Core bugfixes<\/b><\/i> for SeaMonkey\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<dl>\n<dd> <b>Problem<\/b>: I don&#8217;t know what bugfixes when will be introduced into SeaMonkey (manually? automatically?). For example <i><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1193153\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1193153<\/a> &#8211; Copy\/paste from a plain text editor<\/i> has been fixed for TB45 2015-12-01, but I still see it in SM 2.44a1. Forgotten?\n<\/dd>\n<dd> <b>Possible method of resolution<\/b>: <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Tony suggested <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/report.cgi?x_axis_field=component&amp;y_axis_field=cf_qa_whiteboard&amp;z_axis_field=&amp;query_format=report-table&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;longdesc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;bug_id=&amp;bug_id_type=anyexact&amp;votes=&amp;votes_type=greaterthaneq&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=exact&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=exact&amp;email2=&amp;emailtype3=substring&amp;email3=&amp;chfield=%5BBug+creation%5D&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;chfieldfrom=-180d&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;j_top=AND&amp;f1=cf_qa_whiteboard&amp;o1=anywordssubstr&amp;v1=seamonkey&amp;format=table&amp;action=wrap\" rel=\"nofollow\">QA-Whiteboard-entries<\/a>.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<dl>\n<dd>\n<ul>\n<li> <u>Adventage<\/u>: compared to any manually maintained lists: Allows bugzilla Queries\n<\/li>\n<li> <u>Disadventages<\/u>:\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<dl>\n<dd> currently some private solution, nowhere defined tags\n<\/dd>\n<dd> QA-Whiteboard field not available for all components where required\n<\/dd>\n<dd> Uncommon spelling &#8220;seamonkey-2.42&#8221; with hyphen\n<\/dd>\n<\/dl>\n<\/dd>\n<\/dl>\n<ul>\n<li> Alternative: Leave SM Bugs open for tracking\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<dl>\n<dd>\n<ul>\n<li> <u>Adventage<\/u>: easy tracking in BZ\n<\/li>\n<li> <u>Disadventages<\/u>:\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<dl>\n<dd> We do not always have SeaMonkey DUPs, should we really open such reports only for tracking?\n<\/dd>\n<dd> This method with parallel Bugs is confusing, People might feel invited to leave comments &#8230;\n<\/dd>\n<\/dl>\n<\/dd>\n<\/dl>\n<\/dd>\n<dd>\n<dl>\n<dd> <b> Ideas<\/b>:\u00a0?\n<\/dd>\n<\/dl>\n<\/dd>\n<dd>\n<ul>\n<li> <i><b>Donating and so on<\/b><\/i>: (see <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2016-02-02#Rainer_Bielefeld\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2016-02-02\">SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2016-02-02#Rainer_Bielefeld<\/a>): Still no feedback from SeaMonkey e.V. \/ mcsmurf.de. Within 9 months this association even did not manage to prove it&#8217;s real existence, currently we should not propagate to donate for SeaMonkey e.V.. If nobody else does, I will establish an alternative, transparent donation until March 2016.\n<\/li>\n<li> <i><b>Mentoring<\/b><\/i>:  (see <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2016-02-02#Rainer_Bielefeld\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2016-02-02\">SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2016-02-02#Rainer_Bielefeld<\/a>)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/dd>\n<\/dl>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Ratty\">Ratty<\/h4>\n<p>Fixed:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1243760\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1243760<\/a> Replace <tt>nsPIDOMWindow<\/tt> with <tt>nsPIDOMWindowInner\/Outer<\/tt> in C-C due to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1241764\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1241764<\/a>.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1244758\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1244758<\/a> Rename nsAutoTArray to AutoTArray (Port mozilla-central <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1235261\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1235261<\/a>)\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1248023\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1248023<\/a> Update uses of NS_ProxyRelease to take into account the changes in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1164581\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1164581<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>In Progress:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1223341\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1223341<\/a> Add the Firefox Devtools to the SeaMonkey UI.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1235805\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1235805<\/a> Rollup patch: Add preload content policy types for images (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1048048\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1048048<\/a>) Use the loading document&#8217;s principal to populate loadInfo for Favicons instead of using systemPrincipal (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1119386\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1119386<\/a>) nsITaskbarPreview::Invalidate no longer throws when not visible.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1222816\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1222816<\/a> Restore about:config UI (Config Editor) to old appearance by overriding Toolkit&#8217;s Project Chameleon styles.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1238428\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1238428<\/a> Workaround the <tt>NS_APP_PROFILE_DEFAULTS_{NLOC_,}50_DIR<\/tt> directory keys removed in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1234012\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1234012<\/a>.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>On Hold:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1239707\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1239707<\/a> Switch to use in-tree version of compare-locales (SeaMonkey Part).\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Needs Investigating:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1240304\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1240304<\/a> Old maximum version numbers in Chatzilla rdf files.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1229810\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1229810<\/a> Port <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1228444\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1228444<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1228467\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1228467<\/a> to Chatzilla.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1167346\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1167346<\/a> comm-aurora builds are not building due to DOMi and Chatzilla pulling from revisions earlier than <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1158751\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1158751<\/a> Port NO_JS_MANIFEST changes.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>TODO:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Fix Thunderbird defaut theme overrides.\n<\/li>\n<li> Front end changes needed for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1042699\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1042699<\/a> Block cross-origin add-on install requests.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1011857\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1011857<\/a> Implement CustomizableUI shim for SeaMonkey.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1174466\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1174466<\/a> Popup blocker: Need to allow popups opened by loaded javascript: URIs from the location bar. Regression from <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=896947\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 896947<\/a>.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1224907\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1224907<\/a> Bookmarks Manager Search box is missing in SeaMonkey 2.3.9.\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1236982\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1236982<\/a> Simplify SeaMonkey CSS for Lightning toolbar buttons.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Other stuff:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Did some reviews and approvals.\n<\/li>\n<li> Bug triage and Bug discussions.\n<\/li>\n<li> Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/forums.mozillazine.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozillazine<\/a>.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"rsx11m\">rsx11m<\/h4>\n<p>Landed on comm-central:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1245110\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1245110<\/a> Remove help about (now removed) &#8220;Ask for each cookie&#8221; option in preferences dialog.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Waiting for comm-aurora\/beta approval:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1245110\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1245110<\/a> Remove help about (now removed) &#8220;Ask for each cookie&#8221; option in preferences dialog.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>May need retargeting:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1123673\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 1123673<\/a> Consider exposing security.tls.version.fallback-limit in SSL prefpane to accommodate SSL 3.0 legacy sites.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Other:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.\n<\/li>\n<li> End-user information and discussion on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/forums.mozillazine.org\/viewforum.php?f=51\" rel=\"nofollow\">MozillaZine<\/a>.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"tonymec\">tonymec<\/h4>\n<p>I&#8217;m intentionally listing here what regards anything included in SeaMonkey, even shared components such as the Toolkit product or built-in extensions such as ChatZilla.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> ASSIGNED\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1247900\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 1247900: about:newaddon page has ugly table cell design<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> in Toolkit\u00a0:: Add-ons Manager\n<\/li>\n<li> has WIP patch, r?=Mossop\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> FIXED\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1235199\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 1235199: Remove &#8220;Ask for each cookie&#8221; radiobutton in preferences dialog now that its backend is gone<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> in Passwords &amp; Permissions\n<\/li>\n<li> landed on 2.41 and later, with orphaned strings left in for 2.41 and 2.42 (2.43 was still trunk)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1240894\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 1240894: the new tab button in mailnews is set to display:none unless the close button is at the end<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> in MailNews: General\n<\/li>\n<li> landed on 2.41 and later\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> QA: business as usual.\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1242188\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug 1242188: Sidebar Panel Name heading text of narrow sidebar exceeds right border of sidebar<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> in Sidebar\n<\/li>\n<li> landed on 2.41 and later\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"mw-headline\" id=\"Any_other_business.3F\">Any other business?<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> \u2014\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr>\n<p><b>SeaMonkey Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Time: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?day=16&amp;month=2&amp;year=2016&amp;hour=13&amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;p1=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">16 February, 2016, 13:00 UTC<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> (8am Eastern, 1pm UK, 2pm Central Europe, 9pm Hong Kong)\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li> Location: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/seamonkey\" rel=\"nofollow\">#seamonkey IRC channel<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> Further Read: <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/Basics\" title=\"SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/Basics\">Basics<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li> Participants (in order of appearance):\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\n\t\t\t\tRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2016-02-16&amp;oldid=1117293\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=SeaMonkey\/StatusMeetings\/2016-02-16&amp;oldid=1117293<\/a>&#8221;\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Agenda Who&#8217;s taking minutes? -&gt; Ratty Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank: Rainer Bielefeld for trying to get things organized Action Items (who needs to do what that hasn&#8217;t been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items. 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