{"id":235,"date":"2009-09-22T23:00:05","date_gmt":"2009-09-23T03:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/235"},"modified":"2009-09-22T23:00:05","modified_gmt":"2009-09-23T03:00:05","slug":"mozilla-platform-meeting-minutes-2009-09-22","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/235","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2009-09-22"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Platform\/2009-09-22<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">Platform<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2009-09-15\" title=\"Platform\/2009-09-15\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2009-09-29&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Platform\/2009-09-29 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"Notices_.2F_Schedule\" name=\"Notices_.2F_Schedule\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Notices \/ Schedule <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><b><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.0.15\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.0.15\">Firefox 3.0.15<\/a> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.5.4\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.5.4\">Firefox 3.5.4<\/a><\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze: TODAY! September 22 (end of day).\n<li> Firefox 3.0.15: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20-!fixed1.9.0.15%2Cverified1.9.0.15%20flag%3Ablocking1.9.0.15%252b\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20-!fixed1.9.0.15%2Cverified1.9.0.15%20flag%3Ablocking1.9.0.15%252b\">6 open blockers<\/a>\n<li> Firefox 3.5.4: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking1.9.1%3A4%252b%20-status1.9.1%3Afixed\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking1.9.1%3A4%252b%20-status1.9.1%3Afixed\">8 open blockers<\/a>\n<li> Branches re-open for next releases in October\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Firefox 3.6b1<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> now string frozen\n<li> 25 P1 bugs left\n<li> needed before b1 cutoff:\n<ul>\n<li> lightweight themes\n<li> plugin update referrals\n<li> about:support\n<li> js c types\n<li> js beta blockers\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Blocker_Report\" name=\"Blocker_Report\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Blocker Report <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See more <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/3.6\" title=\"Firefox\/3.6\">Firefox 3.6 related blocker queries<\/a>, or learn about the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Flags\" title=\"Releases\/Flags\">new status and blocker flags<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Release Blockers (flag: blocking1.9.2 or blocking-firefox3.6)\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=flag%3Ablocking1.9.2%2B,blocking-firefox3.6%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=flag%3Ablocking1.9.2%2B,blocking-firefox3.6%2B\">138 OPEN<\/a> (-9 w\/w)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=FIXED%20-status1.9.2:fixed%20flag%3Ablocking1.9.2%2B,blocking-firefox3.6%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=FIXED%20-status1.9.2:fixed%20flag%3Ablocking1.9.2%2B,blocking-firefox3.6%2B\">58 FIXED but not yet fixed on mozilla-1.9.2<\/a> (+15 w\/w)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=flag%3Ablocking1.9.2%3F,blocking-firefox3.6%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=flag%3Ablocking1.9.2%3F,blocking-firefox3.6%3F\">83 nominations<\/a> (+1 w\/w)\n<li> Handy charts: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~mnandigama\/openBlockers.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~mnandigama\/openBlockers.html\">Blocker snapshots<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~mnandigama\/openBlockersTrend.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~mnandigama\/openBlockersTrend.html\">Blocker and Noms trends<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Approvals\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20-status1.9.2%3Afixed%20flag%3Aapproval1.9.2%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20-status1.9.2%3Afixed%20flag%3Aapproval1.9.2%3F\">65 requests<\/a> (+9 w\/w)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20-status1.9.2%3Afixed%20flag%3Aapproval1.9.2%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20-status1.9.2%3Afixed%20flag%3Aapproval1.9.2%2B\">41 approved but not yet fixed on mozilla-1.9.2<\/a> (-4 w\/w)\n<li> Charts: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~mnandigama\/openblockersNominated.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~mnandigama\/openblockersNominated.html\">Nominations snapshots<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Browser_.2F_Front_End\" name=\"Browser_.2F_Front_End\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Browser \/ Front End <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>(Progress reports every weekend on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/planet.firefox.com\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/planet.firefox.com\">Planet Firefox<\/a>)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> see our <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Projects\" title=\"Firefox\/Projects\">active projects<\/a> and get involved \/ <b>propose others<\/b>\n<li> published initial <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Roadmap\" title=\"Firefox\/Roadmap\">draft roadmap<\/a> for product deliverables through the end of 2010\n<li> Namoroka\/mozilla-1.9.2:\n<ul>\n<li> Pieces of <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Projects\/Personas_Uplift_Exploration\" title=\"Firefox\/Projects\/Personas Uplift Exploration\">lightweight themes (personas) integration<\/a> starting to land.\n<ul>\n<li> feature mostly landed on trunk, coming soon to 1.9.2\n<li> biggest piece left to do is the caching bit, should be done by end of this week\n<li> <i>Dave and Dan coordinating security review<\/i> (update?)\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Projects\/Places_Vacuum\" title=\"Firefox\/Projects\/Places Vacuum\">on-idle vaccuuming of the Places DB<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=512854\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=512854\">bug 512854<\/a> (monthly vacuum on idle) landed on trunk, considering for 1.9.2\n<\/ul>\n<li> Blair and Mossop have a plan for <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Projects\/Plugin_Update_Referrals\" title=\"Firefox\/Projects\/Plugin Update Referrals\">alerting users to out of date plugins<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> ETA is end of week for 1.9.2\n<li> if we get this for beta 1, we&#8217;ll want a webpage there, need to make sure those bugs are on file and at least a temporary page exists\n<\/ul>\n<li> Curtis blitzing on getting about:support in, to help users work with SUMO\/Tech Support. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=367596\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=367596\">bug 367596<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> ETA is end of week for 1.9.2\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> for future\/mozilla-central:\n<ul>\n<li> shorlander put together a <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Sprints\/Windows_Theme_Revamp\/Direction_and_Feedback\" title=\"Firefox\/Sprints\/Windows Theme Revamp\/Direction and Feedback\">roundup of theme change proposals<\/a> and that started a very <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.apps.firefox\/browse_thread\/thread\/9e569626887ae703#\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.apps.firefox\/browse_thread\/thread\/9e569626887ae703#\">productive discussion<\/a>\n<li> team is discussing our <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Goals\/2009Q4\" title=\"Firefox\/Goals\/2009Q4\">Q4 Goals<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"GFX_Update\" name=\"GFX_Update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> GFX Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Really exciting work on WebGL implementation. Latest nightlies have WebGL turned on, and lots of demos are popping up.\n<ul>\n<li> For fun demos, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/readysetstop.blogspot.com\/2009\/09\/webgl-demos.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/readysetstop.blogspot.com\/2009\/09\/webgl-demos.html\">Mark Steele&#8217;s WebGL demos blog post<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Decode-on-draw work continues; we think we&#8217;ve solved the strange performance hit we saw on OS X. We still have to finish the last couple of requirements (like <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=512260\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=512260\">bug 512260<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%5Bdecodeondraw%5D\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%5Bdecodeondraw%5D\">regressions<\/a>) before turning it on.\n<li> GFX has come to a tentative conclusion on Q4 goal planning.\n<ul>\n<li> We&#8217;ve decided to focus on performance, specifically responsiveness (scrolling). We&#8217;ll also be supporting the other performance work going on, like the Firefox team&#8217;s Ts work and Electrolysis.\n<li> More information at the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2009-Q4-Goals#GFX\" title=\"Platform\/2009-Q4-Goals\">Q4 goals page<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Layout_Update\" name=\"Layout_Update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> mozLoadFrom landed [roc]\n<li> Mac painting improvements [mstange]\n<li> published Ogg seeking draft [cpearce]\n<li> WOFF landed [jfkthame, jdaggett]\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Content_Update\" name=\"Content_Update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Content Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> 19 blockers, still need to go through and make sure they&#8217;re really blockers.\n<li> Figured out a reliable way to reproduce the facebook farmtown game crasher <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516780\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516780\">bug 516780<\/a> (thanks to ctalbert!)\n<li> Working on figuring out Q4 goals\n<li> Finishing up remainders of our Q3 goals\n<ul>\n<li> sicking working on remaining parts of XBL2\n<li> mrbkap working with labs on jetpack security model using COW wrappers.\n<\/ul>\n<li> HTML5 parser update (hsivonen)\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Platform-specific_Support_Update\" name=\"Platform-specific_Support_Update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Platform-specific Support Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> 64-bit Mac OS X can build completely. Working to get patches into the tree. Doesn&#8217;t run yet due to xptcall problem.\n<li> Mac OS X trunk only builds and runs on 10.5+ for now. Not removing 10.4 code from the tree until the decision is final.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"JS\" name=\"JS\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> JS <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Startup_Performance\" name=\"Startup_Performance\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Startup Performance <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>join us in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/#startup\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/#startup\">irc.mozila.org #startup<\/a>!<\/p>\n<p>Highlights from the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/autonome.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/18\/firefox-startup-performance-weekly-summary-2\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/autonome.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/18\/firefox-startup-performance-weekly-summary-2\/\">weekly update post<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Projects\/Startup_Time_Improvements#Overview\" title=\"Firefox\/Projects\/Startup Time Improvements\">summarized table of progress<\/a>\n<li> stat and syscall removal in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=511761\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=511761\">bug 511761<\/a>, ben hsieh and taras\n<li> service consolidation in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516085\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516085\">bug 516085<\/a>, vlad, drew, taras\n<li> huge Mac Leopard win in bug <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=517549\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=517549\">bug 517549<\/a>, joel reymont, masayuki nakano, josh\n<\/ul>\n<p>Also, Vlad put up <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/Profiling_with_AMD_CodeAnalyst\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/Profiling_with_AMD_CodeAnalyst\">instructions for using AMD&#8217;s CodeAnalyst<\/a>, which is a free tool that is super easy to use and tremendously useful for profiling on Windows.\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"Security\" name=\"Security\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Security <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Electrolysis\" name=\"Electrolysis\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Electrolysis <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Necko:  working on cross-process HttpChannels.  Still early, hard to give ETA.\n<li> Windowed plugins pretty close! some of the new plugin stream tests pass, and some basic NPObject remoting works. Trying to find answers to NPAPI unknowns in plugin-futures and generate more tests.\n<ul>\n<li> Lots of cleanup to do: remove singletons by adding context to the plugin host, make plugin instantiation and process launch asynchronous, deal with race conditions of constructors against other methods.\n<\/ul>\n<li> karlt\/jmuizelaar working on windowless this week\n<li> fred\/bz\/bsmedberg met about session history requirements: <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Content_Processes\/Meetings\/2009-09-21-session_history\" title=\"Content Processes\/Meetings\/2009-09-21-session history\">meeting notes<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Tree_Management\" name=\"Tree_Management\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Tree Management <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Downtime this week (Thursday?).  Notice coming soon.\n<li> Turning off tests in unittest build+test build.  Existing packaged tests will still be running.  <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=507540\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=507540\">bug 507540<\/a>\n<li> Hoping to land tests on debug and optimized builds on trunk as well.\n<li> Reminder that we still do OSX 10.4 builds on Try, so expect orange if you&#8217;re pushing trunk patches.\n<li> Un-swapping privatebytes and RSS on Mac Talos results. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516497\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516497\">bug 516497<\/a>\n<li> Wait times for Try Talos are very long.  Working on power\/space solutions here.\n<li> Some changes to graph server landed, should be much faster to load. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=492352\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=492352\">bug 492352<\/a>\n<li> When are we going to hit a freeze on infrastructure changes for 3.6 release?\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Roundtable\" name=\"Roundtable\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> [Added by Johnath] Stop using old phone numbers! A few long-deprecated dial-in numbers are going out of service this week. The normal dial-in numbers for this call are below, if you&#8217;re using a different number (specifically, 866-500-1038 or 650-215-7299), <i>cut it out<\/i>.\n<ul>\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> [bsmedberg] Can&#8217;t get to 0 blocker noms without a general triage: after this call, or some other day this week?\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2009-09-22\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2009-09-22<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Platform\/2009-09-22 From MozillaWiki &lt; Platform \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Notices \/ Schedule Firefox 3.0.15 \/ Firefox 3.5.4 Code freeze: TODAY! September 22 (end of day). 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