{"id":241,"date":"2009-09-29T23:00:09","date_gmt":"2009-09-30T03:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/241"},"modified":"2009-09-29T23:00:09","modified_gmt":"2009-09-30T03:00:09","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2009-09-29","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/241","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2009-09-29"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-09-29<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-09-22\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-09-22\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-10-06&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-10-06 (page does not exist)\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a> <\/p>\n<p><b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2009&amp;month=09&amp;day=29&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2009&amp;month=09&amp;day=29&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\">Tuesday, September 29th, 16:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Agenda\" name=\"Agenda\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>gozer<\/b>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida for schedule changes\/additions.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Action_Items\" name=\"Action_Items\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"New\" name=\"New\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> New  <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a id=\"Open\" name=\"Open\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Open  <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> We should engage the beta testing community in helping with the what&#8217;s new and release notes pages, especially explaining why we&#8217;ve changed things, and how to get back to the old behavior. jenzed suggested an MDC page. (jz: see <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/en\/Thunderbird_3_for_users\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/en\/Thunderbird_3_for_users\">https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/en\/Thunderbird_3_for_users<\/a>)\n<li> Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build\n<li> At 2:30 PDT tomorrow, there will be a Thunderbird security review, dmose will send out the details today\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Closed\" name=\"Closed\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Closed  <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a id=\"Thunderbird_3\" name=\"Thunderbird_3\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final\" title=\"Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final\">Thunderbird 3<\/a>  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Schedule (proposed, may change):\n<ul>\n<li> Final l10n String Freeze: Tuesday 29th Sept 23:59 PST\n<li> Aiming to start RC1 builds on: 3rd Nov.\n<li> Subsequent RCs as necessary.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Blockers\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&amp;sharer_id=1537\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&amp;sharer_id=1537\">blocking-thunderbird3+<\/a>: 66 (-1)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=tb3needs&amp;sharer_id=1537\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=tb3needs&amp;sharer_id=1537\">TB 3 Needs<\/a>: 2 (0)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Proposed Blocking\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3?\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3?\">Proposed Blockers (all)<\/a>: 6 (-14)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Wanted\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\">Wanted Thunderbird 3<\/a>: 275\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Fixed RC1\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0rc1&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0rc1&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0rc1 &#8211; blocking<\/a>: 39\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.\n<li> If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don&#8217;t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.\n<li> If you see what look like theme\/css issues, especially on Windows, please file a bug, with a screenshot, and the version of Windows you&#8217;re running. Tag it with a &#8220;polish&#8221; keyword, and nominate it for blocking-tb3?.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"QA_Updates\" name=\"QA_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA Updates  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>3.0b4 topcrashers top 6. Note, all are *new* but 1.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> mime &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=505221\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=505221\">bug 505221<\/a> &#8211; crash [@ CountTotalMimeAttachments(MimeContainer*)]\n<ul>\n<li> Got a profile from the user that can be used to reproduce this\n<\/ul>\n<li> database &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=513315\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=513315\">bug 513315<\/a> &#8211; crash [@ nsScriptSecurityManager::GetCurrentJSContext()]\n<li> backend &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=480090\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=480090\">bug 480090<\/a> &#8211; Crash when sending email after being in offline mode [@ morkRowObject::CloseRowObject(morkEnv*)] &#8211; [@ nsMsgOfflineImapOperation::SetCopiesToDB &#8211; nsMsgOfflineImapOperation::Release]\n<li> mime &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=513543\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=513543\">bug 513543<\/a> &#8211; Crash [@MimeInlineTextHTML_parse_eof ]\n<li> database &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518671\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518671\">bug 518671<\/a> &#8211; crash [@ nsXPConnect::GetRuntimeInstance()]\n<li> unknown &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518807\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518807\">bug 518807<\/a> &#8211; startup crash [@ nsRefPtr&lt;ISearchManager&gt;::StartAssignment()]\n<\/ul>\n<p>last week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Tried having simple thing to get more people onboard &#8211; Got one user who participated.\n<li> Catching up on new crashers due to b4 being released &#8211; and monitoring closely\n<li> Didn&#8217;t catchup on litmus yet\n<li> Activity in bugzilla seems to be going up\n<\/ul>\n<p>This week\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Normal regular bug day\n<li> Working on migration Day\n<\/ul>\n<p>Next week\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Migration day testing\n<ul>\n<li> Migrate from 1.5\n<li> Migrate from 2.0.x\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>And we&#8217;ll gather the data that can be gathered and get return of experience on it.\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"Marketing_Updates\" name=\"Marketing_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Press Watch: 43 total articles for Beta 4 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/download.cnet.com\/8301-2007_4-10359263-12.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/download.cnet.com\/8301-2007_4-10359263-12.html\">Latest Thunderbird rolls search changes<\/a> 40k downloads to date\n<li> Coordinating with German and French pr firms.\n<li> Reviewer&#8217;s Guide on target for 9\/30, working through marketing messaging w\/ board members.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Marketing:Thunderbird_Website\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Marketing:Thunderbird_Website\">Localization Checklist<\/a> Working with Simon on announcement to l10n teams via blog post.\n<li> Reviewing new SpreadThunderbird theme mockups w\/ stb team.  Thanks to Roland for finding the volunteer to help out.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"IT_update\" name=\"IT_update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> IT update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<div class=\"thumb tright\">\n<div class=\"thumbinner\" style=\"width: 262px\"><a class=\"image\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/File:Thunderbird-beta4-01.png\" title=\"Thunderbird Beta 4\"><\/a>  <\/p>\n<div class=\"thumbcaption\">\n<div class=\"magnify\"><a class=\"internal\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/File:Thunderbird-beta4-01.png\" title=\"Enlarge\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/spreadsheets.google.com\/ccc?key=0Aoa-uDxDnUcYdGFSZHhVTnBnZ0ltZGNYVlBTZ2xnV2c&amp;hl=en\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/spreadsheets.google.com\/ccc?key=0Aoa-uDxDnUcYdGFSZHhVTnBnZ0ltZGNYVlBTZ2xnV2c&amp;hl=en\">Thunderbird Beta 4<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul>\n<li> Thunderbird 3 Beta 4 Uptake\n<ul>\n<li> Beta 4 visits: 51k, Beta 3 max visits: 23k\n<li> Beta 4 AUS pings: 18k vs Beta 3 max AUS pings: 21k\n<\/ul>\n<li> Minis are building in the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/tinderbox.mozilla.org\/ThunderbirdTest\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/tinderbox.mozilla.org\/ThunderbirdTest\">ThunderbirdTest<\/a> tree, looking promising\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Documentation\" name=\"Documentation\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> compact header (bug <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=480623\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=480623\">480623<\/a>)\n<li> form fill (bug <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=510378\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=510378\">510378<\/a>)\n<li> debugging Mac \/ Linux\n<li> autoconfig \/ mission control (MDC: <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=en\/MCD%2C_Mission_Control_Desktop_AKA_AutoConfig\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=en\/MCD%2C_Mission_Control_Desktop_AKA_AutoConfig\">[1]<\/a>)\n<li> collapsed threads (bug <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=496244\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=496244\">496244<\/a> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=454829\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=454829\">454829<\/a>)\n<li> activity manager (bug <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=257942\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=257942\">257942<\/a>)\n<li> folders (bug <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=414038\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=414038\">414038<\/a>)\n<li> move leak and bloat test docs from wiki to MDC\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Support\" name=\"Support\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Support <\/span><\/h3>\n<ol>\n<li> Top 5 GS Support Topics (code in progress: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/gist.github.com\/190923\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/gist.github.com\/190923\">http:\/\/gist.github.com\/190923<\/a> )\n<ol>\n<li> Cannot receive email (hotmail, other POP, imap)\n<li> Cannot send email\n<li> Cannot read old email (compact folders seems to fix it, sometimes have to create new profile and migrate old email into new profile)\n<li> Cannot migrate email from old profile to new profile or old computer to new computer\n<li> Address Book (not visible, can&#8217;t  undelete, lost, possibly related to these bugs found by Standard8: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=486498\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=486498\">486498<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=299346\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=299346\">299346<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=394797\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=394797\">394797<\/a> )\n<li> Attachments (attachments not working, corrupted)\n<\/ol>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\/Thunderbird3\/SupportPlan\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\/Thunderbird3\/SupportPlan\">Support Plan for Thunderbird 3<\/a>\n<ol>\n<li> SUMO evaluation basically finished &#8211; have verified you can do localized knowledge base (i.e. create\/modify in English, translate\/modify in French) and can customize to remove Firefox-isms, will add link to report today (David Tenser needs report for MozCamp Europe)\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\/Thunderbird3\/InitialKBDocuments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\/Thunderbird3\/InitialKBDocuments\">Top 10 Support Issues and Top 5 New Thunderbird 3 Features for Knowledge Base<\/a>\n<\/ol>\n<li> Key Support stats from the following graphic:\n<ol>\n<li> approximately 15 \/ day (104\/7)\n<li> total new topics:104 total replies: 120 (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/gist.github.com\/196464\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/gist.github.com\/196464\">Ruby Code<\/a>)\n<ol>\n<li> date:20090922 #new support topics:15 resolved:7\n<li> date:20090923 #new support topics:19  resolved:10\n<li> date:20090924 #new support topics:12  resolved:6\n<li> date:20090925 #new support topics:18  resolved:13\n<li> date:20090926 #new support topics:9  resolved:1\n<li> date:20090927 #new support topics:4  resolved:5\n<li> date:20090928 #new support topics:10  resolved:8\n<\/ol>\n<li> #replies from non MoMo folks: 2 from Lightning folks (thanks Martin and Philip!)  4 from TMZ MoMo folks:  82 from Roland, 5 from Mark Banner\n<li> happiness metric: API doesn&#8217;t have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/gist.github.com\/190094\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/gist.github.com\/190094\">http:\/\/gist.github.com\/190094<\/a>, manual happiness metric = 107 &#8211; 82 = 25\n<\/ol>\n<\/ol>\n<p><a class=\"image\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/File:22-28Sep2009-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.jpg\" title=\"22-28Sep2009-Community stats for Mozilla Messaging.jpg\"><\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"Roundtable\" name=\"Roundtable\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Status_Updates\" name=\"Status_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates  <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a id=\"sid0\" name=\"sid0\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> sid0  <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Landed part of <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=515218\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=515218\">bug 515218<\/a>. Working on the other part right now.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"davida\" name=\"davida\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> davida  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"dmose\" name=\"dmose\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> dmose  <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> driving\n<li> reviews\n<li> message header toolbar customization work <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=465138\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=465138\">bug 465138<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Standard8\" name=\"Standard8\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Standard8 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviews &amp; Driving\n<li> Held <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Thunderbird_3.0b4\/Post_Mortem\" title=\"Releases\/Thunderbird 3.0b4\/Post Mortem\">b4 post-mortem<\/a>.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519041\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519041\">bug 519041<\/a> Implemented context menu for context tabs (shared with message context menu).\n<li> Added about:license to the list of about dialog items &#8211; remaining part of <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=480533\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=480533\">bug 480533<\/a>.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=505558\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=505558\">bug 505558<\/a> Improved about dialog buttons so locales aren&#8217;t struggling for horizontal width.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518175\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518175\">bug 518175<\/a> Stop stripping mac nightlies.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"asuth\" name=\"asuth\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> asuth  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"bienvenu\" name=\"bienvenu\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> bienvenu  <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviews and Driving\n<li> Added autosync pr logging <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518768\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518768\">bug 518768<\/a>\n<li> Fixed empty new mail alert, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459045\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=459045\">bug 459045<\/a>\n<li> Make imap offline sync pay attention to db&#8217;s getting closed, should fix crash in morkRowObject::CloseRowObject <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=480090\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=480090\">bug 480090<\/a>\n<li> Handle case of duplicate special folders in an account, with smart folder mode, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516923\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516923\">bug 516923<\/a>\n<li> Cleanup some of our shutdown w\/ cleanup on exit handling to try to help with hangs on exit, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=494014\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=494014\">bug 494014<\/a>\n<li> Relax size comparison on offline store messages because we seem to be off by one with gmail messages, stops autosync from stalling\/repeatedly downloading messages <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=517466\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=517466\">bug 517466<\/a>\n<li> Use server&#8217;s identity for archive folder, if found, otherwise use hdr\/x-mozilla-account key to determine identity, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=511780\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=511780\">bug 511780<\/a>\n<li> Several other fixes awaiting reviews.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"gozer\" name=\"gozer\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> gozer  <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Build\n<ul>\n<li> Mac Minis imaged and running\n<li> Better staging buildbot\n<li> buildbot\/buildbotcustom updates\n<li> Question: How does one sanely netboots+reimages minis 100% remotely\/unattended\u00a0?\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Web\n<ul>\n<li> ISPDB\u00a0: Bugzilla component to the &#8220;Mozilla Messaging&#8221; product, file bugs!\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Infrastructure\n<ul>\n<li> Nice traffic increase due to beta4\n<li> Some performance improvements to the start page\n<li> DNS server updates\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"clarkbw\" name=\"clarkbw\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> clarkbw  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"wsmwk\" name=\"wsmwk\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> wsmwk  <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> topcrash and crash filing, researching, and tracking. see QA updates\n<ul>\n<li> created spreadsheet that may go public, but private for now. poke me if you want to see.\n<\/ul>\n<li> trying to find my sync\/non-gloda-indexing issues\n<li> researched bugs for new meta <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519202\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519202\">bug 519202<\/a> incomplete\/incorrect\/inaccurate search or filter results &#8230; to focus on issues of bad search results [excepting of gloda]\n<li> triage\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=442222\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=442222\">bug 442222<\/a> Thunderbird 3 credits\n<ul>\n<li> string changes completed\n<li> If you have any nominations, now is the time. No new nominations via <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/david.dabbledb.com\/page\/tb3credits\/NyomUtuq\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/david.dabbledb.com\/page\/tb3credits\/NyomUtuq\">credits webform<\/a> so far.\n<\/ul>\n<li> granted bugz privs to 1\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"beckley\" name=\"beckley\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> beckley  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"Penelope\" name=\"Penelope\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h6> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Penelope  <\/span><\/h6>\n<ul>\n<li> Who column changes only blocker for next beta of Eudora 8\/Penelope\n<li> Added a pref which controls whether the application quits when the user closes the main window\n<li> Working on a feature where selection change in the folder pane doesn&#8217;t update the mailbox displayed, but double-click (or Enter or some right-click context menu items) will open up the mailbox in a new tab\/window\n<li> Fixed the shortcut problems that were happening on Mac\n<li> Lots of little bug fixes for the upcoming beta\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"KaiRo\" name=\"KaiRo\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> KaiRo  <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li>Filed a few bugs on ISPDB\n<li>SeaMonkey 2.0 driving &#8211; progress is very good on that front\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"rkent\" name=\"rkent\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> rkent  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>In the last week I completed a slew of bugs (that I can now checkin myself):\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=515927\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=515927\">bug 515927<\/a> &#8211; Marking message as not spam doesn&#8217;t clear deleted flag from message\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=517996\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=517996\">bug 517996<\/a> &#8211; Tools|Delete Mail Marked As Junk Folder not working in 20090921 nightly\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518667\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518667\">bug 518667<\/a> &#8211; crash [@ nsImapMailFolder::UpdateFolderWithListener(nsIMsgWindow*, nsIUrlListener*)]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=505949\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=505949\">bug 505949<\/a> &#8211; Junk folder on Local Folders not created and possible data loss\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=462578\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=462578\">bug 462578<\/a> &#8211; Implement Quick Search option &#8220;Subject, Sender or Recipient&#8221; (Subject, From, To, CC or BCC) to allow filtering for full conversations with a contact easily\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518188\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518188\">bug 518188<\/a> &#8211; Body search term not available in Search Messages when &#8220;in&#8221; is an account\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518565\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518565\">bug 518565<\/a> &#8211; crash [@nsMsgFilterList::LoadTextFilters(nsIInputStream*) ]\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518846\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518846\">bug 518846<\/a> &#8211; search in searchbar should search by subject, from, to, cc, bcc\n<\/ul>\n<p>I have a couple of bugs in for review, neither of which are critical for TB3\/SM2. Otherwise, although I watch the bug reports and user comments for issues in my areas, I am mostly focused on my extensions, which are way, way behind the backend features that have been implemented.\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"rebron\" name=\"rebron\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> rebron  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"Tsk\" name=\"Tsk\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Tsk  <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Finishing touches to 3.0b4\n<li> usual bizness\n<\/ul>\n<p>This week\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Preparing Eu moz camp 2009 talk\n<li> Preparing Migration Day for next week\n<li> usual bizness\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"andreasn\" name=\"andreasn\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> andreasn  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"bwinton\" name=\"bwinton\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> bwinton <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>Last week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Closed <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=509044\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=509044\">bug 509044<\/a>, and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=478989\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=478989\">bug 478989<\/a>.\n<li> Posted a patch for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519429\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519429\">bug 519429<\/a>.\n<li> Started work on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=490430\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=490430\">bug 490430<\/a>.\n<li> Reviewed <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518851\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518851\">bug 518851<\/a>, and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518840\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518840\">bug 518840<\/a>.\n<li> Created <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518614\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518614\">bug 518614<\/a>, and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519277\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519277\">bug 519277<\/a>.\n<li> Code Sprint at U of T!!!\n<li> Helped dmose with Windows css changes for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=465138\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=465138\">bug 465138<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<p>This week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Continue to help students with ISPDB.\n<li> More work on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=515371\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=515371\">bug 515371<\/a>, and the rest of my blockers.\n<li> General autoconfig error-handling cleanup.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"roland\" name=\"roland\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> roland <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>Last week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> coordination work with potential new Spread Thunderbird theme and designer, Hubert Florin of agentic.ca\n<\/ul>\n<p>This week\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> perhaps get working Spread Thunderbird theme to test from Hubert Florin\n<li> get material to David Tenser for MozCamp Europe support presentation\n<li> look at possibly getting campus students to help out with support\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"nth10sd\" name=\"nth10sd\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> nth10sd  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"Attendees\" name=\"Attendees\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>bwinton, gozer, davida, rebron, standard8, dmose, bienvenu, KaiRo, jenzed, roland, Tsk, clarkbw\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-09-29\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-09-29<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-09-29 From MozillaWiki &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings last meeting | index | next meeting \u00bb Thunderbird Meeting Details\u00a0: Tuesday, September 29th, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) How to dial-in Agenda Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; gozer Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes\/additions. 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