{"id":248,"date":"2009-10-13T23:00:08","date_gmt":"2009-10-14T03:00:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/248"},"modified":"2009-10-13T23:00:08","modified_gmt":"2009-10-14T03:00:08","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2009-10-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/248","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2009-10-13"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-10-13<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-10-06\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-10-06\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-10-20&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-10-20 (page does not exist)\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a> <\/p>\n<p><b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2009&amp;month=10&amp;day=13&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2009&amp;month=10&amp;day=13&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\">Tuesday, October 13th, 16:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Agenda\" name=\"Agenda\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>davidb for davida<\/b>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida for schedule changes\/additions.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Action_Items\" name=\"Action_Items\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"New\" name=\"New\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> New  <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a id=\"Open\" name=\"Open\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Open  <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build\n<ul>\n<li> Split the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Releases#TODOs\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Releases\">TODOs<\/a> into two sections to so that we now have a <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Releases#Must_Have\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Releases\">short list<\/a> of things that we really need to decide on.\n<li> Sent emails asking questions.\n<li> Will discuss remaining with Thunderbird drivers this week (probably via email).\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Closed\" name=\"Closed\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Closed  <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a id=\"Thunderbird_3\" name=\"Thunderbird_3\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final\" title=\"Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Final\">Thunderbird 3<\/a>  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Now in String freeze\n<li> Schedule:\n<ul>\n<li> Creation of comm-1.9.1 branch: 2009-10-22 (proposed)\n<li> Code Freeze for RC1: 2009-10-30 23:59 PST\n<li> L10n deadline: 2009-11-02 23:59 PST\n<li> RC1 builds start on: 2009-11-03\n<li> Subsequent RCs as necessary.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Blockers\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&amp;sharer_id=1537\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=blocking-thunderbird3%2B&amp;sharer_id=1537\">blocking-thunderbird3+<\/a>: 56 (-4)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=tb3needs&amp;sharer_id=1537\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=tb3needs&amp;sharer_id=1537\">TB 3 Needs<\/a>: 2 (+1)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Proposed Blocking\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3?\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3?\">Proposed Blockers (all)<\/a>: 10 (-7)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Wanted\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=wanted-thunderbird3%2B\">Wanted Thunderbird 3<\/a>: 274\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Fixed RC1\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0rc1&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;target_milestone=Thunderbird%203.0rc1&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3%2B\">TB 3.0rc1 &#8211; blocking<\/a>: 82 (+19)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Will remove from bugzilla the ability to request Wanted 3.0 flag since we&#8217;re so close to shipping.\n<li> Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.\n<li> If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don&#8217;t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.\n<li> If you see what look like theme\/css issues, especially on Windows, please file a bug, with a screenshot, and the version of Windows you&#8217;re running. Tag it with a &#8220;polish&#8221; keyword, and nominate it for blocking-tb3?.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"QA_Updates\" name=\"QA_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA Updates  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Last week\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Regular Triage event\n<li> continued Crash monitoring\n<li> Top crasher got a Testcase\n<li> Looked into multilingual QA\n<\/ul>\n<p>This week\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Update event &#8211; we&#8217;ll provide support for people updating from older versions of Thunderbird to either 3.0b4 or Latest nightly, more details at\u00a0: <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-10-15\" title=\"Thunderbird:QA TestDay:2009-10-15\">Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-10-15<\/a>\n<li> Start thinking about testing for rc1\n<\/ul>\n<p>Topcrashes &#8211; 3.0b4 top 6\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<table class=\"fullwidth-table\">\n<tr>\n<td style=\"background: #efefef\"> <b>status<\/b><\/p>\n<td style=\"background: #efefef\"> <b>bug<\/b><\/p>\n<td style=\"background: #efefef\"> <b>summary<\/b><\/p>\n<td style=\"background: #efefef\"> <b>rank<\/b><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <font color=\"green\">fixed 2009-10-04<\/font><\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=513315\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=513315\">bug 513315<\/a><\/p>\n<td> [@ nsScriptSecurityManager::GetCurrentJSContext()]<\/p>\n<td> 1<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>emerging &#8211; legitimate?<\/p>\n<td> &#8211;<\/p>\n<td><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/yjp3zdp\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/yjp3zdp\">startup @ __delayLoadHelper2<\/a><\/p>\n<td>2<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <font color=\"green\">fixed 2009-09-25<\/font><\/p>\n<td><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=480090\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=480090\">bug 480090<\/a><\/p>\n<td>sending email after being in offline mode [@ morkRowObject::CloseRowObject(morkEnv*)] &#8211; [@ nsMsgOfflineImapOperation::SetCopiesToDB &#8211; nsMsgOfflineImapOperation::Release]<\/p>\n<td>3<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <font color=\"blue\">patch pending 2009-10-13<\/font><\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=505221\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=505221\">bug 505221<\/a><\/p>\n<td>[@ CountTotalMimeAttachments(MimeContainer*) ]<\/p>\n<td>4<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <font color=\"red\">idle<\/font><\/p>\n<td><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=513543\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=513543\">bug 513543<\/a><\/p>\n<td>[@MimeInlineTextHTML_parse_eof ]<\/p>\n<td>5<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> <font color=\"red\">idle<\/font><\/p>\n<td><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=482849\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=482849\">bug 482849<\/a><\/p>\n<td>[@ canonicalize ] while doing a nightly update<\/p>\n<td>6<br \/>\n<\/table>\n<p>Standard8 suggested adding a metric of how many crashers per build users we have (e.g., how many crashers per b4 user).\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"Marketing_Updates\" name=\"Marketing_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Press watch: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB10001424052970203803904574431151489408372.html?mod=rss_US_News#articleTabs%3Dcomments\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB10001424052970203803904574431151489408372.html?mod=rss_US_News#articleTabs%3Dcomments\">End of the Email Era<\/a> worth reading through the comments\n<li> Press tour coordination.\n<li> SpreadThunderbird has new theme on staging, launching with new theme this week.\n<li> Handed off new icon, getting into builds soon. (still need to blog about it)\n<li> Web localization handed off to pascalc and team.  A few pages still in progress (release notes, features page needs screen shots, and press release).\n<li> Going to contact top 300 or so add-on authors to tell them about 3.0 release schedule.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"IT_update\" name=\"IT_update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> IT update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=470679\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=470679\">bug 470679<\/a> &#8211; l10n nightly updates (complete+partials) available on comm-central trunk\n<li> mini in production, building OS X comm-1.9.1 nightlies flawlessly so far\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520628\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520628\">bug 520628<\/a> &#8211; Planning production\/staging infrastructure for MoMo SUMO\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Documentation\" name=\"Documentation\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Support\" name=\"Support\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Support <\/span><\/h3>\n<ol>\n<li> Top 5 GS Thunderbird 2 Support Topics (code in progress: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/gist.github.com\/190923\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/gist.github.com\/190923\">http:\/\/gist.github.com\/190923<\/a> ) basically the same as last week with the exception of the AVG anti-virus false positive\n<ol>\n<li> Cannot receive email\n<li> Cannot send email\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/mozilla_messaging\/topics\/avg_reports_virus_in_thunderbird_2_0_0_23?topic_tools=open\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/mozilla_messaging\/topics\/avg_reports_virus_in_thunderbird_2_0_0_23?topic_tools=open\">AVG false positive for thunderbird 2.0.0.23 and firefox 3.5.3 (thanks to tomcat and sam sidler for their help in IRC to quickly resolve this)<\/a>\n<li> address book (how to use, how to export contacts)\n<li> Attachments (attachments not working, corrupted)\n<\/ol>\n<li> Thunderbird 3 Beta Top Support Issues (not many reported, starting to monitor to see what we can improve for post 3.0)\n<ol>\n<li> ui change complaints (users want &#8220;old header&#8221; aka what the dev community calls &#8220;compact header&#8221; back, how to use gloda, gloda complaints)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/mozilla_messaging\/topics\/my_gmail_account_exceeded_bandwidth_limits\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/mozilla_messaging\/topics\/my_gmail_account_exceeded_bandwidth_limits\">excessive gmail bandwidth from imap change to download all email<\/a>, fixed in current i.e. post October 7, 2009 Thunderbird 3 nightlies\n<\/ol>\n<li> SUMO for MoMo tracker ticket: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520628\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520628\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520628<\/a>, gozer spinning up 1.4.0.1 instance (thanks!) and Roland beginning to write content this week\n<li> Will engage Campus Reps students in Thunderbird support &#8211; call for volunteers email is going out this week\n<li> Key Support stats from the following graphic:\n<ol>\n<li> approximately 11 \/ day (78\/7)\n<li> total new topics:110 total replies: 74 (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/gist.github.com\/196464\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/gist.github.com\/196464\">Ruby Code<\/a>)\n<ol>\n<li> date:20091006 #new support topics:17 resolved: 8\n<li> date:20091007 #new support topics:13 resolved: 7\n<li> date:20091008 #new support topics:13 resolved: 3\n<li> date:20091009 #new support topics:10 resolved: 5\n<li> date:20091010 #new support topics:5 resolved: 3\n<li> date:20091011 #new support topics:2 resolved: 0\n<li> date:20091012 #new support topics:1 resolved: 0\n<\/ol>\n<li> #replies from non MoMo folks:13 from Andrea (thanks!) 4 from Thomas (thanks!) 5 from TMZ (thanks) MoMo folks:  60 from Roland, 7 from Mark Banner (thanks!), Ludo 3 (thanks), Bienvenu 6 (thanks), Bryan 2 (thanks!), Asuth 1 (thanks!)\n<li> happiness metric: API doesn&#8217;t have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/gist.github.com\/190094\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/gist.github.com\/190094\">http:\/\/gist.github.com\/190094<\/a>, manual happiness metric = 73 &#8211; 60 = 13 (28 last week), 50 Hendrix messages (generally Hendrix messages are unhappy)\n<\/ol>\n<\/ol>\n<p><a class=\"image\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/File:6-12October_2009_Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.jpg\" title=\"6-12October 2009 Community stats for Mozilla Messaging.jpg\"><\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"Roundtable\" name=\"Roundtable\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Ludovic asked if we might have ispdb ready by rc1 &#8211; Blake thinks not&#8230;decided that we need something in the db for rc1, and Blake will schedule a follow-on meeting.\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"Status_Updates\" name=\"Status_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates  <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a id=\"sid0\" name=\"sid0\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> sid0  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"davida\" name=\"davida\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> davida  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"dmose\" name=\"dmose\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> dmose  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"Standard8\" name=\"Standard8\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Standard8 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviews and Driving\n<li> Thinking about security releases.\n<li> A little bit of holiday.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/comm-central\/rev\/41a1857f1987\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/comm-central\/rev\/41a1857f1987\">Resolved issue<\/a> with trunk builds that stopped updates (and ssl) working.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520977\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520977\">bug 520977<\/a> Dock icon doesn&#8217;t reset when it gets to zero unread messages.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=338549\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=338549\">bug 338549<\/a> Mailnews account password prompts at startup no longer serial.\n<ul>\n<li> Happy with POP3 patch but a tester suggested it may not be quite right, need to investigate more.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"asuth\" name=\"asuth\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> asuth  <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> blocker work\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"bienvenu\" name=\"bienvenu\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> bienvenu  <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviews and Driving\n<li> Fix hang on shutdown if you shutdown immediately after closing a compose window where you&#8217;ve done autocomplete against ssl ldap, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=420744\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=420744\">bug 420744<\/a>\n<li> fix retention settings getting propagated from folder to server and thus to all folders on the server, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=515316\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=515316\">bug 515316<\/a>\n<li> Make empty trash on smart folder empty all the trashes, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=517723\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=517723\">bug 517723<\/a>\n<li> Only display start page once per life of thread pane\/tab, part of <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520272\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520272\">bug 520272<\/a>, speed up opening folders\n<li> Make sure streaming imap messages with aLocalOnly set doesn&#8217;t sometimes fetch message from server, especially for compact offline store case, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519801\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519801\">bug 519801<\/a>\n<li> Remove new mail account from old mail wizard for tb, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=515479\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=515479\">bug 515479<\/a>\n<li> Clear pendingRemoval attribute after applying retention settings in case retention settings change so we don&#8217;t keep purging messages that no longer should be purged, and then redownloading them, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=521134\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=521134\">bug 521134<\/a>\n<li> Detect empty upload file earlier on in process so we don&#8217;t get left hanging with an unfinished url, and keep trying to playback the offline upload, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=497598\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=497598\">bug 497598<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"gozer\" name=\"gozer\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> gozer  <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Build\n<ul>\n<li> l10n updates live on comm-central trunk\n<li> momo-vm-leopard-02 imaged from a mini is in staging\n<li> Wrangled an interesting Apple gcc-4.2 bug <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520401\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520401\">bug 520401<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Web\n<ul>\n<li> MoMo SUMO <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520628\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520628\">bug 520628<\/a> work in progress\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Infrastructure\n<ul>\n<li> Production\/Staging setup for SUMO\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><i>On vacation: Thursday+Friday<\/i>\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"clarkbw\" name=\"clarkbw\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> clarkbw  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"wsmwk\" name=\"wsmwk\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> wsmwk  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"beckley\" name=\"beckley\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> beckley  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"Penelope\" name=\"Penelope\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h6> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Penelope  <\/span><\/h6>\n<ul>\n<li> Some fixes to Who column display and some of the gloda integration to search, plus some auto-open mailbox improvements\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Hoping to get a new beta of Eudora\/Penelope out this week\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"KaiRo\" name=\"KaiRo\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> KaiRo  <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li>Released SeaMonkey 2.0 RC 1 on Saturday &#8211; feedback quite good\n<li>Driving SeaMonkey 2.0 final, hopefully final RC this week, release roughly a week after it if nothing bad comes in\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"rkent\" name=\"rkent\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> rkent  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"rebron\" name=\"rebron\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> rebron  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"Tsk\" name=\"Tsk\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Tsk  <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> see the QA update.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"andreasn\" name=\"andreasn\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> andreasn  <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Last week:\n<ul>\n<li> Various polish fixes <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=522020\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=522020\">bug 522020<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=491294\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=491294\">bug 491294<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=522014\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=522014\">bug 522014<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=508548\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=508548\">bug 508548<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=521813\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=521813\">bug 521813<\/a>\n<li> Header buttons on mac <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520819\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520819\">bug 520819<\/a>\n<li> Autoconfig dialog stuff <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=515390\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=515390\">bug 515390<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> This week\n<ul>\n<li> Implement Thunderbird icon across the application <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519580\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519580\">bug 519580<\/a>\n<li> Autoconfig dialog odd in some locales <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=515390\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=515390\">bug 515390<\/a>\n<li> Header pane nits <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=521334\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=521334\">bug 521334<\/a>\n<li> Feature change page look&amp;feel bug <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516884\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516884\">bug 516884<\/a>\n<li> New message status <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516860\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516860\">bug 516860<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"bwinton\" name=\"bwinton\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> bwinton <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>Last week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Closed <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=494430\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=494430\">bug 494430<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=490430\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=490430\">bug 490430<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518586\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=518586\">bug 518586<\/a>, and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520457\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=520457\">bug 520457<\/a>.\n<li> Posted patches to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519505\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519505\">bug 519505<\/a>.\n<li> Reviewed <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=511417\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=511417\">bug 511417<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519916\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519916\">bug 519916<\/a>, and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519110\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519110\">bug 519110<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<p>This week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Continue to help students with ISPDB.\n<li> More work on the rest of my blockers, and maybe start into some tb3-wanted.\n<li> Drive ISPDB RC1 discussion.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"roland\" name=\"roland\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> roland <\/span><\/h5>\n<p>This week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> wee bit of Spread Thunderbird testing of new theme\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"sgautherie\" name=\"sgautherie\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> sgautherie <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li>Fixed (<i>or in-progress<\/i>) MailNews Core bugs:\n<ul>\n<li><i><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=513709\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=513709\">bug 513709<\/a> configure.in: Remove some useless vars, mozilla-* ones are enough<\/i>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"nth10sd\" name=\"nth10sd\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> nth10sd  <\/span><\/h5>\n<p><a id=\"Attendees\" name=\"Attendees\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>asuth,bienvenu,dmose,clarkbw,roland,ludovic,andreasn,fallen,gozer,standard8,bwinton,rebron,rkent,beckley\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-10-13\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-10-13<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2009-10-13 From MozillaWiki &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings last meeting | index | next meeting \u00bb Thunderbird Meeting Details\u00a0: Tuesday, October 13th, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) How to dial-in Agenda Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; davidb for davida Minute taking Schedule. 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