{"id":287,"date":"2010-01-06T00:00:05","date_gmt":"2010-01-06T04:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/287"},"modified":"2010-01-06T00:00:05","modified_gmt":"2010-01-06T04:00:05","slug":"mozilla-platform-meeting-minutes-2010-01-05","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/287","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2010-01-05"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Platform\/2010-01-05<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">Platform<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2009-12-22\" title=\"Platform\/2009-12-22\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2010-01-11&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Platform\/2010-01-11 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"Notices_.2F_Schedule\" name=\"Notices_.2F_Schedule\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Notices \/ Schedule <\/span><\/h1>\n<p><b><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.0.17\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.0.17\">Firefox 3.0.17<\/a> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.5.7\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.5.7\">Firefox 3.5.7<\/a><\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> shipping today\n<li> adjusted schedule to go for early January release to update users with fix for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=534090\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=534090\">bug 534090<\/a> which affects major updates\n<li> also took a fix to the NTLM regression as well as for the #1 topcrash on branches\n<\/ul>\n<p><b><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.0.18\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.0.18\">Firefox 3.0.18<\/a> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.5.8\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.5.8\">Firefox 3.5.8<\/a><\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> new proposed schedule at links above:\n<ul>\n<li> code freeze January 19th\n<li> release Feb 16th\n<\/ul>\n<li> tree is open, please work on blockers during this quieter RC period\n<li> schedule tracks to three weeks later than original 3.0.17\/3.5.7 schedule\n<li> will try to coincide with a 3.6.1\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Firefox 3.6 Beta Testers<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> approaching 800,000 ADUs, stayed stable during the holidays\n<li> about 20 nominations came in through the holidays, a few new code blockers were found\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Firefox 3.6 Release Candidate<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> one JS blocker left, should be landing today\n<li> would like to co-ordinate RC builds with the Fennec guys to see if we can make sure we&#8217;re both using the same gecko content in our relbranches\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Firefox Future Releases<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> please see the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.planning\/browse_thread\/thread\/f65f34aba408ca01#\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.planning\/browse_thread\/thread\/f65f34aba408ca01#\">discussion in the newsgroups<\/a> about the plan for a release code named &#8220;Lorentz&#8221;, to be delivered early in Q1 with a focus on delivering out of process plugin support for at least Flash on Windows. We&#8217;ll also discuss this in today&#8217;s roundtable.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Blocker_Report\" name=\"Blocker_Report\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Blocker Report <\/span><\/h1>\n<p><b>Firefox 3.6 RC Code Completion<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20flag%3Ablocking-firefox3.6%3F%2Cblocking1.9.2%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20flag%3Ablocking-firefox3.6%3F%2Cblocking1.9.2%3F\">0 nominations<\/a> to be triaged\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20-resolution:works,dup,wont,inv%20flag%3Ablocking-firefox3.6%2B%2Cblocking1.9.2%2B%20-status1.9.2:fixed,unaffected,wontfix%20prod:Core,NSS,NSPR,Toolkit,Firefox\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20-resolution:works,dup,wont,inv%20flag%3Ablocking-firefox3.6%2B%2Cblocking1.9.2%2B%20-status1.9.2:fixed,unaffected,wontfix%20prod:Core,NSS,NSPR,Toolkit,Firefox\">1 code blocker remaining<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>All Blockers (includes website, release management, etc)<\/b><br \/>\nSee more <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/3.6\" title=\"Firefox\/3.6\">Firefox 3.6 related blocker queries<\/a>, or learn about the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Flags\" title=\"Releases\/Flags\">new status and blocker flags<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Release Blockers (flag: blocking1.9.2 or blocking-firefox3.6)\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=flag%3Ablocking1.9.2%2B,blocking-firefox3.6%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=flag%3Ablocking1.9.2%2B,blocking-firefox3.6%2B\">10 OPEN<\/a> (-1 w\/w) (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=flag%3Ablocking1.9.2%2B,blocking-firefox3.6%2B%20-prod:Core,Toolkit,Firefox\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=flag%3Ablocking1.9.2%2B,blocking-firefox3.6%2B%20-prod:Core,Toolkit,Firefox\">8 are non-code<\/a>, 2 are Fennec-only)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=FIXED%20-status1.9.2%3Afixed,unaf,wont%20flag%3Ablocking1.9.2%2B,blocking-firefox3.6%2B%20prod:Core,Firefox,Toolkit,NSS,NSPR\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=FIXED%20-status1.9.2%3Afixed,unaf,wont%20flag%3Ablocking1.9.2%2B,blocking-firefox3.6%2B%20prod:Core,Firefox,Toolkit,NSS,NSPR\">0 FIXED but not yet fixed on mozilla-1.9.2<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=flag%3Ablocking1.9.2%3F,blocking-firefox3.6%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=flag%3Ablocking1.9.2%3F,blocking-firefox3.6%3F\">0 nominations<\/a>\n<li> Handy charts: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~mnandigama\/openBlockers.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~mnandigama\/openBlockers.html\">Blocker snapshots<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~mnandigama\/openBlockersTrend.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~mnandigama\/openBlockersTrend.html\">Blocker and Noms trends<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Approvals\n<ul>\n<li> email beltzner if you have approval requests needing attention\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20-status1.9.2%3Afixed,unaf,wont%20flag%3Aapproval1.9.2%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20-status1.9.2%3Afixed,unaf,wont%20flag%3Aapproval1.9.2%3F\">32 requests<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20-status1.9.2%3Afixed,unaf,wont%20flag%3Aapproval1.9.2%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20-status1.9.2%3Afixed,unaf,wont%20flag%3Aapproval1.9.2%2B\">5 approved but not yet fixed on mozilla-1.9.2<\/a> (+1 w\/w)\n<li> Charts: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~mnandigama\/openblockersNominated.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/people.mozilla.org\/~mnandigama\/openblockersNominated.html\">Nominations snapshots<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Browser_.2F_Front_End\" name=\"Browser_.2F_Front_End\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Browser \/ Front End <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> no blockers\n<li> you&#8217;re going to see some UI churn on trunk, get used to it\n<ul>\n<li> This will cause change. Things will not be the same as before.\n<li> <b>IF YOU SEE A CHANGE YOU DON&#8217;T LIKE: Please sit with it for at least 48 hours before blogging\/tweeting\/irc pinging to tell us how terrible it is.<\/b>\n<li> Change is hard, but important. We value input more than insults.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> this quarter our big targets are:\n<ul>\n<li> starting UI changes for Firefox 4\n<li> reducing I\/O on the main thread (performance)\n<li> supporting out of process plugins work (UI and integration work)\n<li> continuing to drive startup time\n<li> integrating jetpack, weave and iterating on personas\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"GFX_Update\" name=\"GFX_Update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> GFX Update <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> No blockers\n<li> Some interesting things we&#8217;re working on:\n<ul>\n<li> Hardware Layers implementations (DX10 and OGL) (Bas)\n<li> CoreAnimation plugin support (Ben Girard, our new co-op!)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Layout_Update\" name=\"Layout_Update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout Update <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> No blockers\n<li> Things quiet due to holiday\n<li> Basic <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Gecko:Layers\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Gecko:Layers\">layers<\/a> infrastructure coming up [roc, bas]\n<li> DPI rework [roc]\n<li> CSS calc() [dbaron]\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Content_Update\" name=\"Content_Update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Content Update <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> no 1.9.2 blockers\n<li> slow going due to holidays&#8230;\n<li> investigating one regression in plugin code <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=536020\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=536020\">bug 536020<\/a>.\n<li> benjamn writing xpcshell unit tests for CPOWs (f.k.a. JPWs).\n<li> Jonas is changing nsIAtom (API compat)\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Platform-specific_Support_Update\" name=\"Platform-specific_Support_Update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Platform-specific Support Update <\/span><\/h1>\n<p><a id=\"JS\" name=\"JS\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> JS <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> finishing last few blockers\n<li> ramping up work for future releases, more on this next week\n<li> landed <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=430133\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=430133\">bug 430133<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=492840\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=492840\">bug 492840<\/a> in TM repository\n<li> just before last platform meeting landed a change to align behavior of setting properties with getters but not setters with ES5; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/whereswalden.com\/2009\/12\/21\/ecma-262-ed-5-backwards-incompatible-change-coming-to-spidermonkey-and-to-gecko-based-browsers\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/whereswalden.com\/2009\/12\/21\/ecma-262-ed-5-backwards-incompatible-change-coming-to-spidermonkey-and-to-gecko-based-browsers\/\">blogged<\/a> to anticipate any potential bustage out there\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Startup_Performance\" name=\"Startup_Performance\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Startup Performance <\/span><\/h1>\n<p><a id=\"Security\" name=\"Security\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Security <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Zack landed a patch for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=524223\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=524223\">Cross-domain data theft using CSS parser<\/a>, an issue that affected all browsers because it is almost a hole in specs.  But it breaks some web sites; do we want a more conservative (but more complicated) fix for branch?\n<ul>\n<li> We had a long discussion about this.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Please complete the triage of crash bugs in your component.  Over the second half of 2009, the number of open crash bugs was reduced by 25%, largely through the security team&#8217;s <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/En\/Triaging_crash_bugs\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/En\/Triaging_crash_bugs\">aggressive GTD-style triage<\/a> (which also identified at least three security bugs among the heap).  The remaining bugs should have a high usefulness density.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Electrolysis\" name=\"Electrolysis\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Electrolysis <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Crash reporting the major blocker for turning OOPP on by default\n<ul>\n<li> &#8220;Dumb&#8221; crash reporting almost done: no UI\n<li> Needs UI help: josh to work on objectframe differentiation to get rid of the default plugin, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=533891\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=533891\">bug 533891<\/a>.\n<li> Need Firefox UI help, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519541\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=519541\">bug 519541<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> mozilla-runtime not executable on Linux, need help with <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=535090\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=535090\">bug 535090<\/a>: releng bug?\n<li> bent re-examining hangs on Windows, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=535036\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=535036\">bug 535036<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Networking <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/showdependencytree.cgi?id=516730&amp;hide_resolved=1\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/showdependencytree.cgi?id=516730&amp;hide_resolved=1\">bug tree<\/a> created. jduell needs review (bz\/biesi) on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=530952\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=530952\">bug 530952<\/a> so that additional work can begin on a stable base.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Volunteer wanted: record-and-replay investigation of xpcshell oranges, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=535585\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=535585\">bug 535585<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Tree_Management\" name=\"Tree_Management\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Tree Management <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> New Talos HW coming.  ETA end of January.\n<ul>\n<li> Likely OSes: Windows XP, Windows 7, OSX 10.5.8, OSX 10.6, Linux 32-bit, Linux 64-bit\n<ul>\n<li> NB win7 will be replacing vista\n<li> Will be updating to a more recent Linux distro (hardy heron or fedora 12)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Will run on 1.9.0, 1.9.1, 1.9.2, trunk\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Roundtable\" name=\"Roundtable\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Major or minor update from 3.5 to 3.6?\n<ul>\n<li> A: Throttled major update on the day of release\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2010-01-05\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2010-01-05<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Platform\/2010-01-05 From MozillaWiki &lt; Platform \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Notices \/ Schedule Firefox 3.0.17 \/ Firefox 3.5.7 shipping today adjusted schedule to go for early January release to update users with fix for bug 534090 which affects major updates also took a fix to the NTLM regression as well as [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":98,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[258],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/287"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/98"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=287"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/287\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=287"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=287"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=287"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}