{"id":337,"date":"2010-07-20T23:00:07","date_gmt":"2010-07-21T03:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/337"},"modified":"2010-07-20T23:00:07","modified_gmt":"2010-07-21T03:00:07","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2010-07-20","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/337","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2010-07-20"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-07-20<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-06-29\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-06-29\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <strong>next meeting\u00a0\u00bb<\/strong>\n<\/p>\n<table>\n<caption> <b>Current Release Schedules<\/b><br \/>\n<\/caption>\n<tr>\n<th width=\"33%\"> Thunderbird 3.2 <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.1.1 <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.0.6<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> To Be Announced<\/p>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Relbranch opens: June 24\n<li> Code &amp; L10 freeze: July 13\n<li> Builds start: July 13\n<li> QA with builds start: July 14\n<li> Beta period starts: July 15\n<li> Final release: July 20\n<\/ul>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Relbranch opens: June 18\n<li> Code freeze: July 1\n<li> L10n freeze: July 1\n<li> Builds start: July 1\n<li> QA with builds start: July 2\n<li> Beta period starts: July 13\n<li> Final release: July 20\n<\/ul>\n<\/table>\n<p>\n<b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2010&amp;month=07&amp;day=20&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2010&amp;month=07&amp;day=20&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\">Tuesday, July 20th, 16:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"Agenda\" name=\"Agenda\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>Standard8<\/b>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida for schedule changes\/additions.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Action_Items\" name=\"Action_Items\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Friends_of_the_Tree\" name=\"Friends_of_the_Tree\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Thanks to our <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/en\/Glossary#FotT\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/en\/Glossary#FotT\">Friends of the Tree<\/a>  When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"mailto:rebron@mozillamessaging.com\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"mailto:rebron@mozillamessaging.com\">rebron@mozillamessaging.com<\/a> so that he can send them a shirt!\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> New <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/9hzJqh\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/9hzJqh\">Friend of the Tree t-shirt<\/a> grey but also coming in a Stone blue.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Conversion_Funnel_.28Priority_0_side_project.29\" name=\"Conversion_Funnel_.28Priority_0_side_project.29\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Funnel Cake 2 next week, looking to do a German version as well.\n<li> Conversion #&#8217;s after 3 months shows us at 78% retention.\n<li> ISPDB conversion is steady at 30-39%.  Top missing domains: secureserver.net, psmtp.com, ocn.ad.jp, rr.com, at.net, ovh.net, aon.at, go2.pl, virginmedia.com, netease.com.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Thunderbird_Development\" name=\"Thunderbird_Development\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Feature_Work\" name=\"Feature_Work\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a><\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Pluggable store (maildir) is making progress &#8211; working through unit test failures now\n<li> Mail account provisioning development has started, with a repo at <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bwinton_latte.ca\/accountprovisioner\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bwinton_latte.ca\/accountprovisioner\/\">http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bwinton_latte.ca\/accountprovisioner\/<\/a>   Feedback\/suggestions\/pre-code-reviews welcome.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"3.2\" name=\"3.2\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 3.2 <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Initial <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/tb-planning\/browse_frm\/thread\/f2a72996faae24f6\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/tb-planning\/browse_frm\/thread\/f2a72996faae24f6\">tb-planning thread<\/a>, quick summary:\n<ul>\n<li> 3.2 based off a comm-1.9.2 with mozilla-1.9.2 with limited back-ported features and fixes.\n<li> Would allow some API changes (many for extensions benefit) and string changes.\n<li> Next trunk release would be after FF 4 ships, possibly as little as one month, depending on what state our trunk is in, features landed etc.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Major_updates_to_3.1\" name=\"Major_updates_to_3.1\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major updates to 3.1 <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Expecting to push prompted major updates to TB 3.1.1.\n<ul>\n<li> Initial 3.0.6 -&gt; 3.1.1 push planned for 27th July.\n<li> Initial 2.0.0.24 -&gt; 3.1.1 push planned for 3rd August.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Thunderbird_Stability_.26_Security_Releases\" name=\"Thunderbird_Stability_.26_Security_Releases\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Stability &amp; Security Releases <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Releasing TB 3.0.6 and 3.1.1 the same time as <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.6.7\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.6.7\">FF 3.6.7<\/a>\n<li> Bug Lists: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\">3.1<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.0\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.0\">3.0<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Experiments\" name=\"Experiments\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/Experiments&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments (page does not exist)\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/mozillalabs.com\/messaging\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/mozillalabs.com\/messaging\">Messaging Add-ons<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/mozillalabs.com\/messaging\/mailing-list-manager\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/mozillalabs.com\/messaging\/mailing-list-manager\/\">Mailing List Manager<\/a> released\n<\/ul>\n<li> Sent out list of current experiments to tb-planning\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/pipermail\/tb-planning\/2010-July\/000377.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/pipermail\/tb-planning\/2010-July\/000377.html\">https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/pipermail\/tb-planning\/2010-July\/000377.html<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Add-on experiment planned for release next week\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"QA_Updates\" name=\"QA_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> working on 3.0.6\n<li> working on 3.1.1\n<li> Usage of [tb-qa] in subjects to flag messages on mdat\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Marketing_Updates\" name=\"Marketing_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> PR Update: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/arstechnica.com\/security\/news\/2010\/07\/mozilla-ups-bounty-for-reporting-vulnerabilities-to-3000.ars\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/arstechnica.com\/security\/news\/2010\/07\/mozilla-ups-bounty-for-reporting-vulnerabilities-to-3000.ars\">Mozilla Bug Bounty increase to $3k from $500<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/news.softpedia.com\/news\/Mozilla-Explains-the-Reason-for-Releasing-Experimental-New-Features-as-Add-ons-146835.shtml\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/news.softpedia.com\/news\/Mozilla-Explains-the-Reason-for-Releasing-Experimental-New-Features-as-Add-ons-146835.shtml\">Mozilla Explains the Reason for Releasing Experimental New Features as Add-ons<\/a>\n<li> Tb Stats: 5.4MM ADUs w\/ 12% on latest release, steady 75k+ downloads\n<li> Tb 3.1.1\/3.0.6 announcements and follow-ups\n<li> Tracking Mozilla Newsletter program\n<li> New t-shirts (grey\/stone blue), testing out embroidered products (hats,shirt), and other logo products (bags, stickers)\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"IT_update\" name=\"IT_update\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> IT update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Thunderbird 3.0.6\n<li> Thunderbird 3.1.1\n<li> New builders on\u00a0: Linux + Linux64\n<li> TryServer progress\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Documentation\" name=\"Documentation\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> contacted local universities and technical schools that have tech writing programs regarding giving a talk in the autumn\n<li> practicum student (Mike) starting today\n<li> new Thunderbird <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/en.flossmanuals.net\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/en.flossmanuals.net\/\">FLOSS Manual<\/a>  (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/lists.flossmanuals.net\/pipermail\/discuss-flossmanuals.net\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/lists.flossmanuals.net\/pipermail\/discuss-flossmanuals.net\/\">FLOSS Manuals discussion list archive<\/a>)\n<li> Summit loose ends \/ general catch-up (MDC \/ MCD; Doccelerator \/ Skywriter; etc)\n<li> update <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/Global+Search\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/Global+Search\">Global Search article<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=577484\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=577484\">bug # 577484<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Support\" name=\"Support\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Support <\/span><\/h3>\n<ol>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues\">3.1 Support Issues<\/a> &#8211; nothing really major so far, seems to be better than 3.0.x &#8211; please add your support issues to the Discussion page of this wiki page <b>still a work in progress<\/b>\n<li> still assimilating lessons of <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/summit.mozilla.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/summit.mozilla.org\/\">#moz10<\/a> &#8211; amazing contributors and technology\n<li> looking forward to working with Jen&#8217;s intern on Improving SuMoMo\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-07-20\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-07-20\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details &#8211; welcome back to GS contributor <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/people\/michael_a_pasek\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/people\/michael_a_pasek\">Michael Pasek<\/a>!\n<\/ol>\n<p><a id=\"Lightning_Updates\" name=\"Lightning_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Status_updates\" name=\"Status_updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"Roundtable_Highlights\" name=\"Roundtable_Highlights\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Trunk maintenance\n<ul>\n<li> Getting too difficult\/lots of maintenance to keep open &#8211; too much non-libxul build bustages\n<li> Proposed route for trunk:\n<ol>\n<li> Go for the libxul option 2 asap.\n<ul>\n<li> We know we&#8217;re going to libxul\n<li> It will fix the current bustage, and protect us from any more non-libxul versus libxul\n<li> Support shared builds as a lower priority option &#8211; developers can back up to a working version, but tree can remain open.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Let the work that is being done on external API finish\n<ul>\n<li> because I can see devs, and maybe linux distros, wanting this.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Do some performances tests of internal &amp; external APIs.\n<li> Make decision on which to ship with Thunderbird trunk.\n<\/ol>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Attendees\" name=\"Attendees\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-07-20\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-07-20<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-07-20 From MozillaWiki &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings last meeting | index | next meeting\u00a0\u00bb Current Release Schedules Thunderbird 3.2 Thunderbird 3.1.1 Thunderbird 3.0.6 To Be Announced Relbranch opens: June 24 Code &amp; L10 freeze: July 13 Builds start: July 13 QA with builds start: July 14 Beta period starts: July 15 Final release: July 20 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[40],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/337"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=337"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/337\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=337"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=337"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=337"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}