{"id":338,"date":"2010-07-21T23:00:08","date_gmt":"2010-07-22T03:00:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/338"},"modified":"2010-07-21T23:00:08","modified_gmt":"2010-07-22T03:00:08","slug":"firefoxgecko-delivery-meeting-minutes-2010-07-21","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/338","title":{"rendered":"Firefox\/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2010-07-21"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Firefox\/Planning\/2010-07-21<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\" title=\"Firefox\">Firefox<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\">Planning<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2010-06-30\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2010-06-30\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a class=\"mw-redirect\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\" title=\"Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\">index<\/a> | <strong>next week \u00bb<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><b>Firefox\/Gecko Delivery Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC\n<li> Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room\n<li> Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\">irc.mozilla.org #planning<\/a> for backchannel\n<li> (the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform#Meetings\" title=\"Platform\">developer meeting<\/a> takes place on Tuesdays)\n<\/ul>\n<div style=\"margin: 1em 0px;padding: 1em;background-color: orange;text-align: center\"><b>REMEMBER<\/b><\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: x-small\">These notes are read by people who weren&#8217;t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><a id=\"Agenda\" name=\"Agenda\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <b><big>Agenda<\/big><\/b> <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> actions from last week:\n<ul>\n<li> Remember that Blackhat\/Defcon is coming up &#8211; be as prepared as one can be for chemspill.\n<li> Christian to follow up with MU uptake stats\n<\/ul>\n<li> schedule and progress on upcoming releases\n<li> review highlights and notices\n<li> respond to questions and concerns\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Action Items<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"Schedule_.26_Progress_on_Upcoming_Releases\" name=\"Schedule_.26_Progress_on_Upcoming_Releases\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule &amp; Progress on <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\" title=\"Releases\">Upcoming Releases<\/a> <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a id=\"Firefox_3.5.11_.2F_Firefox_3.6.7\" name=\"Firefox_3.5.11_.2F_Firefox_3.6.7\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.5.11\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.5.11\">Firefox 3.5.11<\/a> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.6.7\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.6.7\">Firefox 3.6.7<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> shipped yesterday\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Firefox_3.5.12_.2F_Firefox_3.6.8\" name=\"Firefox_3.5.12_.2F_Firefox_3.6.8\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Releases\/Firefox_3.5.12&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.5.12 (page does not exist)\">Firefox 3.5.12<\/a> \/ <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Releases\/Firefox_3.6.8&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.6.8 (page does not exist)\">Firefox 3.6.8<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Christian will be generating a plan\n<li> might end up being a quick release depending on what happens at BlackHat\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Firefox_4.0_Beta_2\" name=\"Firefox_4.0_Beta_2\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_4.0b2\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 4.0b2\">Firefox 4.0 Beta 2<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> builds generated this morning, QA has already started\n<li> <b>juan<\/b> expects QA to be done on Monday, July 26 EOD\n<li> <b>lmesa<\/b> will be updating the features and whatsnew pages\n<li> available in 32 locales\n<li> major changes in this milestone\n<ul>\n<li> XPCOM changes which break all 3rd party apps and binary add-ons\n<li> Tabs on Top for OSX\n<li> App Tabs\n<li> Retained Layers\n<li> JS performance improvements\n<li> CSS Transitions and Transformations\n<li> FIX: only one OSX dock icon when plugins are running\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=FIXED%20blocking2.0:beta2\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=FIXED%20blocking2.0:beta2\">a list of all fixed beta2 blockers<\/a>, and a <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?resolution=FIXED&amp;chfieldto=2010-07-20%2015%3A00&amp;chfield=resolution&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;chfieldfrom=2010-06-30%2011%3A00&amp;product=Core&amp;product=Firefox&amp;product=NSPR&amp;product=NSS&amp;product=Toolkit\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?resolution=FIXED&amp;chfieldto=2010-07-20%2015%3A00&amp;chfield=resolution&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;chfieldfrom=2010-06-30%2011%3A00&amp;product=Core&amp;product=Firefox&amp;product=NSPR&amp;product=NSS&amp;product=Toolkit\">rather complete changelist<\/a> are available\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Firefox_4.0_Beta_3\" name=\"Firefox_4.0_Beta_3\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Releases\/Firefox_4.0b3&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 4.0b3 (page does not exist)\">Firefox 4.0 Beta 3<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> a tentative <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/4\/Beta#Milestones\" title=\"Firefox\/4\/Beta\">beta milestone<\/a> list has been posted\n<li> next beta is expected 2 weeks after beta 2 &#8211; we&#8217;re serious about this!\n<li> will build a set of major features for next week, but what&#8217;s felt to be needed?\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Input_1.5\" name=\"Input_1.5\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Input\/Releases\/1.5\" title=\"Firefox\/Input\/Releases\/1.5\">Input 1.5<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> We&#8217;ve released! Check out our <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/aakash.doesthings.com\/2010\/07\/21\/firefox-input-now-with-atom-feeds-and-l10n\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/aakash.doesthings.com\/2010\/07\/21\/firefox-input-now-with-atom-feeds-and-l10n\/\">new features<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Jetpack_SDK_0.6\" name=\"Jetpack_SDK_0.6\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Labs\/Jetpack\/SDK\/0.6\" title=\"Labs\/Jetpack\/SDK\/0.6\">Jetpack SDK 0.6<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> relatively minor set of improvements (schedule impacted by summit, meteors)\n<li> tree froze on Monday, July 19\n<li> RC1 expected today, Wednesday, July 21\n<li> tentative release date: Tuesday, July 27\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Add-on_Builder.next\" name=\"Add-on_Builder.next\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Labs\/Jetpack\/FlightDeck\/1.0a3\" title=\"Labs\/Jetpack\/FlightDeck\/1.0a3\">Add-on Builder.next<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> goal is to resolve the major bugs and minor papercuts developers have been experiencing in the existing feature set of the previous preview release\n<li> still working on the timeline\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Highlights_.2F_Notices\" name=\"Highlights_.2F_Notices\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Highlights \/ Notices <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><i>Notes or issues that don&#8217;t correspond to a particular release you&#8217;d like people to know about.<\/i>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> L10n (Axel)\n<ul>\n<li> Highlight: Fx 4 Beta 2 with 23 locales\n<li> Lowlight: shipped-locales is a PITA. Question to releng, which should I fix first, milestone creation (PITA, too, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=565640\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=565640\">bug 565640<\/a> or add platform support to dashboard to export shipped-locales right, to fold it into l10n-changesets proper <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=535558\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=535558\">bug 535558<\/a>?\n<li> want to join l10n testing goal meeting? Poke Pike.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Continued Feedback on Fx 4 beta 1: Overall, much less activity than last week, with more people commenting favorably about the speed\/look of Fx 4 <font color=\"red\">(not necessarily representative samples)<\/font>:\n<ul>\n<li>Twitter (firefox 4, firefox4 <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/trendistic.com\/firefox-4\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/trendistic.com\/firefox-4\">http:\/\/trendistic.com\/firefox-4<\/a>)\n<ul>\n<li> Seems like people are getting used to the new look\n<li> like the speed of Fx 4\n<li>Issues streaming videos (not just netflix)\n<\/ul>\n<li>Facebook&#8211;Test Drivers (200 comments\/discussion posts): <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/home.php?#!\/group.php?gid=173578463110&amp;ref=ts\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/home.php?#!\/group.php?gid=173578463110&amp;ref=ts\">http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/home.php?#!\/group.php?gid=173578463110&amp;ref=ts<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> couldn&#8217;t find close\/restore minimize buttons\n<li> don&#8217;t like that they can&#8217;t customize\/move the bookmarks bar\n<\/ul>\n<li>Uservoice Forums (800 voters\/220 ideas): <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/firefox.uservoice.com\/forums\/57440-firefox-4-beta\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/firefox.uservoice.com\/forums\/57440-firefox-4-beta\">https:\/\/firefox.uservoice.com\/forums\/57440-firefox-4-beta<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Tabs on same row as Firefox-button\n<li> Release a 64bit build of FF4\n<\/ul>\n<li> Input\n<ul>\n<li> Cluster Analysis on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/attachment.cgi?id=459061\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/attachment.cgi?id=459061\">Happy<\/a> Feedback over the past week\n<li> Cluster Analysis on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/attachment.cgi?id=459062\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/attachment.cgi?id=459062\">Sad<\/a> Feedback over the past week\n<\/ul>\n<li> Test Pilot\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> We intended to blocklist the Internet Download Manager (IDM) for Firefox 4 betas, but accidentally blocked it for Firefox 3.6.x users for 4-6 hours yesterday. That change has been reverted, but there are a few irate IDM users commenting in the bugs.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Questions_and_Concerns\" name=\"Questions_and_Concerns\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Questions and Concerns <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><i>Please add any questions or concerns you would like discussed at today&#8217;s meeting.<\/i>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> When are we switching on services\/sync for Firefox? Wonder when&#8217;s the right time to expose that to l10n. (Axel)\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Press_.26_Public_Reactions\" name=\"Press_.26_Public_Reactions\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Press &amp; Public Reactions <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.zdnet.com\/blog\/security\/firefox-hit-by-drive-by-download-security-holes\/6896\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.zdnet.com\/blog\/security\/firefox-hit-by-drive-by-download-security-holes\/6896\">Firefox hit by drive-by download security holes<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.downloadsquad.com\/2010\/07\/14\/firefox-4-nightly-build-debuts-app-tabs\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.downloadsquad.com\/2010\/07\/14\/firefox-4-nightly-build-debuts-app-tabs\/\">Firefox 4 nightly build debuts App Tabs<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-30685_3-20010589-264.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-30685_3-20010589-264.html\">Mac Firefox users: Tabs on top coming next week<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2010\/07\/14\/mozilla_jaegermonkey_update\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2010\/07\/14\/mozilla_jaegermonkey_update\/\">Firefox engine outraces self after J\u00e4ger shot<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.conceivablytech.com\/1781\/products\/mozilla%E2%80%99s-new-javascript-engine-shows-its-teeth-launch-on-september-1\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.conceivablytech.com\/1781\/products\/mozilla%E2%80%99s-new-javascript-engine-shows-its-teeth-launch-on-september-1\/\">Mozilla\u2019s New JavaScript Engine Shows Its Teeth: Launch On September 1<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/arstechnica.com\/apple\/reviews\/2010\/07\/firefox-home-hands-on-firefox-on-your-iphone-sorta.ars\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/arstechnica.com\/apple\/reviews\/2010\/07\/firefox-home-hands-on-firefox-on-your-iphone-sorta.ars\">Firefox Home hands-on: Firefox on your iPhone&#8230; sorta<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/reviews.cnet.com\/8301-19512_7-20010972-233.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/reviews.cnet.com\/8301-19512_7-20010972-233.html\">Hands-on look at Firefox Home for iPhone<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.fastcompany.com\/1670785\/firefox-home-enters-the-app-store-connects-your-pcs-browser-to-your-iphones\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.fastcompany.com\/1670785\/firefox-home-enters-the-app-store-connects-your-pcs-browser-to-your-iphones\">Firefox Home Enters the App Store, Connects Your PC&#8217;s Browser to Your iPhone&#8217;s <\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2010\/07\/15\/firefox-iphone\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2010\/07\/15\/firefox-iphone\/\">Firefox Home For iPhone Approved, Lets You Sync Bookmarks, Open Tabs And More<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com\/2010\/07\/19\/app-smart-extra-firefox-home\/?src=busln\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com\/2010\/07\/19\/app-smart-extra-firefox-home\/?src=busln\">App Smart Extra: Firefox Home<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2010-07-21\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2010-07-21<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Firefox\/Planning\/2010-07-21 From MozillaWiki &lt; 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