{"id":339,"date":"2010-07-21T23:00:12","date_gmt":"2010-07-22T03:00:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/339"},"modified":"2010-07-21T23:00:12","modified_gmt":"2010-07-22T03:00:12","slug":"mobile-meeting-minutes-2010-07-21","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/339","title":{"rendered":"Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2010-07-21"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Mobile\/Notes\/21-Jul-2010<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\" title=\"Mobile\">Mobile<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\" title=\"Mobile\/Notes\">Notes<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t<a id=\"Details\" name=\"Details\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Details <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)\n<li> irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Schedule\" name=\"Schedule\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> 2.0 Alpha 1 (tbd)\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Major_Topics_for_This_Week\" name=\"Major_Topics_for_This_Week\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major Topics for This Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> 2.0 Alpha Discussion\n<ul>\n<li> Blockers?\n<li> Sync Maemo and Android?\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Front-end\" name=\"Front-end\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Front-end <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Bug fix mode\n<ul>\n<li> Fixing reported bugs\n<li> Fixing breakage from move to e10s\n<li> Several e10s related patches are very close to landing, including some e10s crashers\n<li> Finding breakage from move to retained layers\n<\/ul>\n<li> Feature mode\n<ul>\n<li> Handed out each front-end developer (2-3) tasks from <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Planning\/2.0\" title=\"Mobile\/Planning\/2.0\"> Planning page<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Cleanup mode\n<ul>\n<li> Updating front-end code to current trunk style\n<li> Re-organizing some areas\n<\/ul>\n<li> Need to update more status and details for <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Planning\/2.0\" title=\"Mobile\/Planning\/2.0\"> Planning 2.0<\/a> tasks\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"UX_design\" name=\"UX_design\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> UX design <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Adding detail to documents for\n<ul>\n<li> Sharing <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Projects\/Sharing\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Projects\/Sharing\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Projects\/Sharing<\/a>\n<li> Unified awesomescreen\/startpage <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Projects\/AwesomeScreen2.0\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Projects\/AwesomeScreen2.0\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Projects\/AwesomeScreen2.0<\/a>\n<li> Virtual Keyboard\/Searching <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Projects\/Virtual_Keyboard\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Projects\/Virtual_Keyboard\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Projects\/Virtual_Keyboard<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Round two of android mockups starting\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Maemo\" name=\"Maemo\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Maemo <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a id=\"Qt\" name=\"Qt\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Qt <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Android\" name=\"Android\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Android <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> major focus for alpha is keyboard interactions and e10s regressions\n<li> bug stats\n<ul>\n<li> 2.0 blockers\n<li> 10 2.0a1 blockers\n<li> 16 new blockers since last week\n<li> 10 bugs resolved since last week\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Electrolysis\" name=\"Electrolysis\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Electrolysis <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Toolkit components need to land\n<ul>\n<li> Permission Manager <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=564535\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=564535\">bug 564535<\/a> (landed)\n<li> Form history <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=552828\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=552828\">bug 552828<\/a> (needs review and pass tests)\n<li> Login Manager <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=552827\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=552827\">bug 552827<\/a> (needs review and fix leak)\n<li> InstallTrigger <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=550936\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=550936\">bug 550936<\/a> (passes all tests on m-c)\n<li> PromptService <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=573635\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=573635\">bug 573635<\/a> (active)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Places API has landed, but e10s bits still need to land\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=568925\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=568925\">bug 568925<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516728\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=516728\">bug 516728<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Networking fixes need to land\n<ul>\n<li> SecurityInfo <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=536301\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=536301\">bug 536301<\/a> (need review and testing)\n<li> Redirects\n<li> Http Auth\n<li> App Cache\n<li> Suspend\/resume (waiting on review)\n<li> Download Manager <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=552825\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=552825\">bug 552825<\/a> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=562444\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=562444\">bug 562444<\/a>(active)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Layers\" name=\"Layers\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layers <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Where are we with <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Layers\" title=\"Mobile\/Layers\"> Layers<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Retained layers code has created some bugs in Fennec <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579349\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579349\">bug 579349<\/a>\n<li> Low-level cross-process layers code v0 will land on e10s soon\n<li> Shadow trees integrated into chrome-process invalidation and painting paths (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/i30.tinypic.com\/34jbrbq.png\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/i30.tinypic.com\/34jbrbq.png\">screen (offset is on purpose)<\/a>)\n<li> Content process still relying on having a widget; talked to Timothy\/Rob about next step.  Advised to create &#8220;fake\/stub&#8221; widget, got list of known-to-be-needed nsIWidget methods to implement.\n<li> Gutted all platform widget code from dom\/ipc and nsFrameLoader.  Breaks everything, to be fixed by cross-platform stub widget.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Bugs to watch\n<ul>\n<li> Tracking bug <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=574512\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=574512\">bug 574512<\/a>\n<li> e10s shadow tree <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=570620\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=570620\">bug 570620<\/a>\n<li> Integrate chrome hierarchy <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=130078\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=130078\">bug 130078<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"General_Platform\" name=\"General_Platform\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> General Platform <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> New manifest loading is breaking parts of Fennec\n<ul>\n<li> Should be fixed soon <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579178\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579178\">bug 579178<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Geolocation_Working_Group\" name=\"Geolocation_Working_Group\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Geolocation Working Group <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Video\" name=\"Video\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Video <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Camera\" name=\"Camera\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Camera <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Getting reviews, landing patches, etc.<\/p>\n<p>Went back through yesterday night and got approval2.0+ on stuff because mozilla-central went to approvals at the platform meeting yesterday.<\/p>\n<p>DAP has a new draft spec that&#8217;s much better.  Going to comment on it on their mailing list.\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"Plugins\" name=\"Plugins\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Plugins <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Performance\" name=\"Performance\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Power\" name=\"Power\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Power <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Various patches waiting for review\/feedback: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=571394\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=571394\">bug 571394<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=568730\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=568730\">bug 568730<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=359608\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=359608\">bug 359608<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"Networking\" name=\"Networking\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Networking <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Graphics\" name=\"Graphics\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Graphics <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Startup\" name=\"Startup\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Startup <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Omnijar for desktop almost done <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=556644\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=556644\">bug 556644<\/a>, which also works for Maemo. Most patches up for review.\n<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"Layout\" name=\"Layout\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Content\" name=\"Content\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Content <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Release_Engineering\" name=\"Release_Engineering\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release Engineering <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> New upload directories <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/drkscrtlv.livejournal.com\/320620.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/drkscrtlv.livejournal.com\/320620.html\">http:\/\/drkscrtlv.livejournal.com\/320620.html<\/a>\n<li> New n810 configs+image\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=578952\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=578952\">bug 578952<\/a> &#8211; page doesn&#8217;t load when e10s is enabled\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579186\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579186\">bug 579186<\/a> &#8211; n810s can&#8217;t load GLIBCXX_3.4.9\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579184\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579184\">bug 579184<\/a> &#8211; mobile unit tests go green if all tests are skipped\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=578343\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=578343\">bug 578343<\/a> &#8211; talos needs to be retrofitted for e10s\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=575506\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=575506\">bug 575506<\/a> &#8211; trunk maemo fennec builds not exiting talos profile creation since 6\/23\n<\/ul>\n<li> Bear @ XMPP conference, back tomorrow\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"QA\" name=\"QA\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a id=\"Automation\" name=\"Automation\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Automation <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<ul>\n<li> [<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Fennec_Unittests\/green\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Fennec_Unittests\/green\">Greening the unittests<\/a>]\n<ul>\n<li> New section for [<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Fennec_Unittests\/green#mochitest\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Fennec_Unittests\/green#mochitest\">mochitests<\/a>]!!!  Please read and comment or help\n<\/ul>\n<li> Android\n<ul>\n<li> landed a bunch of updates for getting reftests running on android\n<li> initial work with\u00a0:bear to get tests running, no luck yet\n<li> need to update talos <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=578343\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=578343\">bug 578343<\/a>\n<li> need to update reftest <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=580418\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=580418\">bug 580418<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Browser Chrome\n<ul>\n<li> starting to hack up existing tests to work in e10s\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Manual\" name=\"Manual\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Manual <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> bugs <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/dlaAaO\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/dlaAaO\">filed<\/a> on the Fennec product over the past week\n<li> Notes to mention about bugs found\n<li> Fx Input will be mobile ready by next week\n<li> goals for upcoming week (in order of priorities):\n<ul>\n<li> Continue having Waverley run nightly smoketests\/BFTs of trunk of n900s builds\n<li> Add assignments to the new features added\n<li> Start on adding testcases\/testscripts to features landed\n<\/ul>\n<li> Bug 579084 seems to be not there anymore. However I can&#8217;t get any page loaded in current builds. Apparently, this is bug 578952.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Other\" name=\"Other\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Other <\/span><\/h2>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/21-Jul-2010\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/21-Jul-2010<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mobile\/Notes\/21-Jul-2010 From MozillaWiki &lt; Mobile | Notes Details Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL) 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US) irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel Schedule 2.0 Alpha 1 (tbd) Major Topics for This Week 2.0 Alpha Discussion Blockers? Sync Maemo and Android? 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