{"id":345,"date":"2010-07-28T23:00:07","date_gmt":"2010-07-29T03:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/345"},"modified":"2010-07-28T23:00:07","modified_gmt":"2010-07-29T03:00:07","slug":"mobile-meeting-minutes-2010-07-28","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/345","title":{"rendered":"Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2010-07-28"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Mobile\/Notes\/28-Jul-2010<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\" title=\"Mobile\">Mobile<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\" title=\"Mobile\/Notes\">Notes<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>\t\t\t<a id=\"Details\" name=\"Details\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Details <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)\n<li> irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Schedule\" name=\"Schedule\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule  <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a id=\"Major_Topics_for_This_Week\" name=\"Major_Topics_for_This_Week\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major Topics for This Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a id=\"Front-end\" name=\"Front-end\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Front-end <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Bug fix mode\n<ul>\n<li> Fixing reported bugs\n<li> Fixing blockers for alpha 1\n<li> Fixing broken browser-chrome tests\n<li> Several e10s related patches are very close to landing, including some e10s crashers\n<\/ul>\n<li> Feature mode\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Planning\/2.0\" title=\"Mobile\/Planning\/2.0\"> Planning<\/a> work has begun and some work has already landed\n<li> mbrubeck starting work on sharing; bugs added to <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Projects\/Sharing\" title=\"Mobile\/Projects\/Sharing\">Mobile\/Projects\/Sharing<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Cleanup mode\n<ul>\n<li> Updating front-end code to current trunk style\n<li> Re-organizing some areas\n<\/ul>\n<li> Updated more status and details for <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Planning\/2.0\" title=\"Mobile\/Planning\/2.0\"> Planning 2.0<\/a> tasks\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"UX_design\" name=\"UX_design\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> UX design <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Maemo\" name=\"Maemo\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Maemo <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a id=\"Qt\" name=\"Qt\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Qt <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Android\" name=\"Android\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Android <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a id=\"Electrolysis\" name=\"Electrolysis\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Electrolysis <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=550936\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=550936\">bug 550936<\/a> (InstallTrigger) ready to land once an xpconnect bug, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=582100\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=582100\">bug 582100<\/a> is done (which they say should be soon)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=573635\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=573635\">bug 573635<\/a> has two ways to resolve it, and we have patches for both. Neither is perfect but a perfect solution requires fundamental work on IPC networking. So for now, just need to decide which of the 2 patches to go with.\n<li> place bugs getting closer to land.\n<li> necko e10s reviews going faster. (12 patches in review state, 1 ready to push)\n<li> removing real widgets soon in the child process\n<li> window.crypto\n<li> lots of warnings+errors in startup\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"General_Platform\" name=\"General_Platform\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> General Platform <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a id=\"Geolocation_Working_Group\" name=\"Geolocation_Working_Group\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Geolocation Working Group <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Video\" name=\"Video\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Video <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Camera\" name=\"Camera\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Camera <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Layout bindings landed <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=567323\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=567323\">Bug 567323<\/a>\n<li> Raw decoder relanded, looks like it will stick this time. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=508082\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=508082\">Bug 508082<\/a>\n<li> Have 95% of a patch to eliminate the temporary file and teach the DOM how to properly deal with a file generated by the camera.  Chasing test failures down.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Plugins\" name=\"Plugins\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Plugins <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Performance\" name=\"Performance\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Started <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/PowerManagement\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/PowerManagement\">wiki page<\/a> on device and application states\/notices by OS (&#8216;low battery&#8217;, &#8216;screen dimmed&#8217;, &#8216;application in background&#8217;, etc.), need data from Android people please.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Networking\" name=\"Networking\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Networking <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Graphics\" name=\"Graphics\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Graphics <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Startup\" name=\"Startup\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Startup <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Layout\" name=\"Layout\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Where are we with <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Layers\" title=\"Mobile\/Layers\"> Layers<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Retained layers code has created some bugs in Fennec <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579349\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579349\">bug 579349<\/a>\n<li> &#8220;Fake widgets&#8221; finished wrt drawing, need event\/focus\/IME love <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=582057\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=582057\">bug 582057<\/a>\n<li> &#8220;Remote frames&#8221; for cross-process layers working with test-ipc, will be up for review today\n<\/ul>\n<li> Bugs to watch\n<ul>\n<li> Tracking bug <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=574512\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=574512\">bug 574512<\/a>\n<li> e10s shadow tree <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=570620\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=570620\">bug 570620<\/a>\n<li> <s>Integrate chrome hierarchy <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=130078\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=130078\">bug 130078<\/a><\/s> (fake widgets make this bug mostly irrelevant to fennectrolysis+browser)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Content\" name=\"Content\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Content <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a id=\"Release_Engineering\" name=\"Release_Engineering\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release Engineering <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=562843\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=562843\">bug 562843<\/a> Android release signing: looks like we can&#8217;t renew certs. <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/code.google.com\/p\/android\/issues\/detail?id=10020\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/code.google.com\/p\/android\/issues\/detail?id=10020\">http:\/\/code.google.com\/p\/android\/issues\/detail?id=10020<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=567827\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=567827\">bug 567827<\/a> make buildsymbols breaks on ix boxes: should land this week or early next\n<li> most of n810s\/n900s back in production\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579184\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579184\">bug 579184<\/a> fixed: now unit tests with 0 passed tests are orange\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579186\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579186\">bug 579186<\/a> Mozilla-central N810 builds do not launch (GLIBCXX_3.4.9 not found)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=578343\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=578343\">bug 578343<\/a> talos needs to be retrofitted for e10s\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=575506\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=575506\">bug 575506<\/a> trunk maemo fennec builds not exiting talos profile creation since 6\/23\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=582336\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=582336\">bug 582336<\/a> (IT) Frequent &#8220;no route to host&#8221; in RF room &#8212; main cause of reds.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"QA\" name=\"QA\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a id=\"Manual\" name=\"Manual\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Manual <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> bugs <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/9o15HO\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/9o15HO\">filed<\/a> on the Fennec product over the past week\n<li> Fx Input is mobile ready and will be pushed live tomorrow.\n<li> working on triaging broken\/unclear\/failed test reports on litmus\n<li> ahoza will be working on Find in page functionality testing\n<li> Dates\/Times related to Alpha 1?\n<li> bug notes\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579349\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579349\">bug 579349<\/a> &#8211; is still a blocker for testing\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=581532\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=581532\">bug 581532<\/a> &#8211; Pages now load again with browser.tabs.remote=true, so testing again with that enabled. I&#8217;m getting crashes when closing tabs, in that case, though.\n<li> (mw22) Found <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=582242\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=582242\">bug 582242<\/a> crasher. It seemed to be Windows only, though.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Automation\" name=\"Automation\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Automation <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<ul>\n<li> Android\n<ul>\n<li> Landed everything for mochitest\/reftest on m-c\n<li> Patches in place for mochitest chrome\/browser-chrome on android (need to be in a .jar file <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=543800\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=543800\">bug 543800<\/a>)\n<li> Working with bear this week to get heartbeat and device management into tinderbox\n<li> Fixing little bugs along the way\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<ul>\n<li> Browser-Chrome <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=553474\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=553474\">bug 553474<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> handful of fixes to get tests working in e10s (thanks mfinkle, vingtetun)\n<li> lots of progress on new tests\n<li> still have an issue with &#8216;too much recursion&#8217; causing all the tests to timeout\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<ul>\n<li> [<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Fennec_Unittests\/green\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Fennec_Unittests\/green\">Green<\/a>]\n<ul>\n<li> mw22 and jmaher started looking into mochitest failures&#8230;the ball is rolling\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a id=\"Other\" name=\"Other\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Other <\/span><\/h2>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/28-Jul-2010\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/28-Jul-2010<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mobile\/Notes\/28-Jul-2010 From MozillaWiki &lt; Mobile | Notes Details Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL) 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US) irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel Schedule Major Topics for This Week Front-end Bug fix mode Fixing reported bugs Fixing blockers for alpha 1 Fixing broken browser-chrome tests [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[124],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/345"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=345"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/345\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=345"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=345"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=345"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}