{"id":35,"date":"2008-08-12T23:01:59","date_gmt":"2008-08-13T03:01:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/35"},"modified":"2008-08-12T23:01:59","modified_gmt":"2008-08-13T03:01:59","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2008-08-12","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/35","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2008-08-12"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-08-12<\/h1>\n<h3>From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-08-05\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-08-05\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"http:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-08-19&amp;action=edit\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-08-19\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2008&amp;month=8&amp;day=05&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2008&amp;month=8&amp;day=05&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\">Tuesday, Aug 12, 16:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li> <a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Agenda\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda <\/span> <\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Who&#8217;s taking minutes?\n<ul>\n<li> Bryan\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Action_Items\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p><a name=\"Open\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Open <\/span> <\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> dmose: clarifying post about how TB 3.0 roadmap should work w.r.t feature freeze, string freeze, etc.\n<ul>\n<li> Will blog about dates talked about\n<\/ul>\n<li> sipaq: file a bug on getting a thunderbird aggregator going on\n<ul>\n<li> Not on call\n<\/ul>\n<li> unknown: file a bug on getting a planet.mozillamessaging.com\n<ul>\n<li> gozer: we have DNS and servers, need someone to make planet look nice\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Closed\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Closed <\/span> <\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> davida: Shredder Alpha 2 release notes bug\n<li> dmose: Create flags\/searches for beta 2 (bug 450237 filed for target milestone stuff; actual blocking 3.0b2 can probably wait since it clutters UI)\n<li> wsmwk: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.l10n\/browse_frm\/thread\/f2c4a7d7f3c97ad7\/9652256e5628ec06?hl=en&amp;lnk=st&amp;q=l10n+thunderbird+alpha+2+dev.l10n#9652256e5628ec06\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.l10n\/browse_frm\/thread\/f2c4a7d7f3c97ad7\/9652256e5628ec06?hl=en&amp;lnk=st&amp;q=l10n+thunderbird+alpha+2+dev.l10n#9652256e5628ec06\">posted to the l10n community<\/a> about testing alpha2 builds for which there are l10n builds available.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Shredder_a2\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Shredder_a2\" title=\"Shredder a2\">Thunderbird:Shredder a2<\/a> <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Thunderbird3\/TestResults\/Alpha2\" title=\"QA\/Thunderbird3\/TestResults\/Alpha2\">QA 3.0a2 completed<\/a>, including some focus on l10n. Highlights:\n<ul>\n<li> Smoketested: XP+Vista, Mac Intel, linux, some locales. BFT: XP\/Vista, linux de+en-US (wtg henry.nestler, et al!). Several locales spot checked.  Nothing: Vista 64 (<i>trunk build<\/i> was smoketested), Mac PPC\n<li> 9 bugs filed or pending, including 1 against locale\n<li> 11 of 15 locales look good\n<li> Highly distributed, all volunteer testing is challenging as expected (compared to moco&#8217;s QA &#8220;duties assigned&#8221;, managed and executed by experienced &#8220;pros&#8221;)\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li> In tracking and assessing end results, difficult to determine who tested how much of which tests. Don&#8217;t think litmus can tell us, eg person X completed 100% of BFT for Mac PPC.\n<li> Inexperienced volunteers = every QA initiative will have some mistakes in testing, and hand holding\n<\/ul>\n<li> To Do &#8211; exit poll of a) QA participants to determine what worked and didn&#8217;t and solicit suggestions, b) people who volunteered but didn&#8217;t help, to determine what factor(s) resulted in their not helping (no feedback was posted in newsgroups)\n<li> Need improved plan for beta 1 QA, including reassess time expectations and organization of volunteers.\n<li> Need to assess changes wanted in litmus to improve testing management and user environment of beta 1&#8230; (eg. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=450143\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=450143\">bug 450143<\/a> don&#8217;t populate Build ID# if test is non-browser product). <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=355585\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=355585\">bug 355585<\/a> ability for other users to continue with a test suite run. More after postmortem.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Thunderbird_3\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 3 <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> What makes a good release?\n<ul>\n<li> adoption\n<li> &#8220;a project that I want to follow&#8221;\n<li> usability, &#8220;delight bugs&#8221;\n<\/ul>\n<li> Demonstration of trajectory\n<li> Identify big areas of value &amp; schedule risk\n<ul>\n<li> Action Item (everyone): nominate important bugs for blocking? and wanted?\n<li> Action Item (drivers): spend some time triaging nominations\n<li> Schedule driver meeting this week to attack triage blockers\/wanted\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Friday Aug 15th @ 9:30 am PST<\/b>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> davida:\n<ul>\n<li> release notes were really difficult, user visible changes were few yet so many changes happened\n<li> Action Item (everyone): look for delight bugs for the next release\n<li> there is already a large list of wanted and blockers, many of which won&#8217;t be done. drivers triage these\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Thunderbird_3.0b1\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b1\" title=\"Thunderbird 3.0b1\">Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0b1<\/a> <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Blockers (3):\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=450038\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=450038\">bug 450038<\/a> (Owner: Unknown) &#8220;Help | Shredder Help&#8221; doesn&#8217;t redirect to a help site of the applications locale.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449949\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449949\">bug 449949<\/a> (Owner: bienvenu) Changing sort of Subject or From to Descending breaks sorting.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449202\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449202\">bug 449202<\/a> (Owner\/Driver: Standard8) Get Thunderbird L10N builds working on comm-central\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;known_name=blocking-thunderbird3.0b1%3F&amp;query_based_on=blocking-thunderbird3.0b1%3F&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3.0b1%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;short_desc=&amp;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;long_desc=&amp;bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&amp;bug_file_loc=&amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;keywords=&amp;resolution=---&amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;emailtype1=substring&amp;email1=&amp;emailassigned_to2=1&amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;emailqa_contact2=1&amp;emailtype2=substring&amp;email2=&amp;bugidtype=include&amp;bug_id=&amp;votes=&amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&amp;known_name=blocking-thunderbird3.0b1%3F&amp;query_based_on=blocking-thunderbird3.0b1%3F&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3.0b1%3F\">Proposed Blockers<\/a> (5)\n<ul>\n<li> 2 are autocomplete transfer to toolkit &#8211; as discussed in last week&#8217;s meeting, nominated as high level feature.\n<li> Other 3 need more work &amp; decisions.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"QA_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA Updates <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/spreadsheets.google.com\/pub?key=p5s-HZTtle5tmH9YD612eEA\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/spreadsheets.google.com\/pub?key=p5s-HZTtle5tmH9YD612eEA\">Bugday results<\/a> were excellent, with near record activity\n<li> Offline\/online bug triage initiated last week. of <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/5ke2bz\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/5ke2bz\">78 bugs<\/a>: 7 closed,  16 others touched. Still a big list. Will hit it again this week.\n<li> patch help (ph?) idea (previously referenced as patch day) &#8211; help bugs with patches that need help\n<ul>\n<li> example subset <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/5d3uf4\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/5d3uf4\">109 bugs not marked fixed with &#8220;recent patches&#8221;<\/a> (last bug comment &gt;200 days &amp; &lt;600 days)\n<li> decided we will triage the list and add whitelist tags, etc to facilitate reviewer\/developer follow up (standard8 will consult)\n<li> reference: <a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-06-17#QA_Updates\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-06-17\">Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-06-17#QA_Updates<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Roundtable\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p><a name=\"Status_Updates\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span> <\/h4>\n<p><a name=\"davida\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> davida <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"dmose\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> dmose <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> final sr pass over nsIAbCard refactoring <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=413260\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=413260\">bug 413260<\/a>\n<li> iterated a bunch more on Weave TB integration <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=447882\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=447882\">bug 447882<\/a>\n<li> nailed down issues around Weave crashing in debug builds; nominated NSS update to block 1.9.1 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=447882\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=447882\">bug 447882<\/a>\n<li> did an interview w\/dascher for How Software Is Built\n<li> pushed several minor weave fixes\n<li> lots of catchup on news, email, bugs, etc; still behind\u00a0:-\/\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"nth10sd\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> nth10sd <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"Standard8\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Standard8 <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviews\n<li> Address Book\n<ul>\n<li> Added <a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/MailNews:Address_Book_RoadMap#Short-term_Planning\" title=\"Address Book RoadMap\">short term planning<\/a> section to Address Book roadmap &#8211; includes proposed milestones\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449260\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449260\">bug 449260<\/a> Replace RDF driven AB menus with xbl versions\n<ul>\n<li> In review loop\n<\/ul>\n<li> Started work on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=437908\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=437908\">bug 437908<\/a> &#8211; fix search\/filter in Mac OS X AB, depends on Joshua&#8217;s patch for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449618\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449618\">bug 449618<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=445891\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=445891\">bug 445891<\/a> Removed obsolete mail.collect_email_address_preferences\n<\/ul>\n<li> Autocomplete\n<ul>\n<li> Started looking at what is required for the remaining feature parity for xpfe versus toolkit autocomplete\n<\/ul>\n<li> Build Config\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449202\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449202\">bug 449202<\/a> Ported some work to TB for getting l10n builds working in mozilla-central.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=448339\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=448339\">bug 448339<\/a> Updated the application update url version (for checking for nightly builds, will mean we can do OS specific major updates)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Misc\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=327510\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=327510\">bug 327510<\/a> XML Parsing Error: no element found \/ netError.xhml on newsgroup msg download timeout.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449753\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449753\">bug 449753<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=450087\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=450087\">bug 450087<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"asuth\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> asuth <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> gloda work\n<ul>\n<li> nsIMsgDBView fundamentals working (displays things\/threads too; properties\/view stuff needs love). feels like some speed issues, may need to more aggressively cache things into the node abstraction layer.  also, verify that C++ code is actually faster on my box for those folder sizes anyways&#8230;\n<li> &#8216;collection manager&#8217; (generating add\/modified\/removed events for messages\/things as they are added\/updated\/removed)\n<li> hooked up Standard8&#8217;s autocomplete proof-of-concept to Bryan&#8217;s experimental toolbar, will start wiring it up to gloda&#8230;\n<\/ul>\n<li> getting gloda into the tree&#8230;\n<ul>\n<li> plan to get started on unit tests soon, probably looking at this weekend for patch-tachment.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"bienvenu\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> bienvenu <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Found fix for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449949\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449949\">bug 449949<\/a> \u2013 changing sort of Subject or From to Descending breaks sorting\n<li> Continued work on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=379806\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=379806\">bug 379806<\/a> &#8211; adding grouping&amp;threading to saved searches.\n<li> Fixed <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=213827\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=213827\">bug 213827<\/a> &#8211; IMAP offline stores are deleted when connecting to server fails\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"emre\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> emre <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"gozer\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> gozer <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Got our hands on scrubbed Win32 Ref Platform Image <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=440480\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=440480\">bug 440480<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Still need to compare that with what we are running\n<\/ul>\n<li> We are now master of our own DNS! <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=439076\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=439076\">bug 439076<\/a>\n<li> We now have Thunderbird start page logs <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=438059\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=438059\">bug 438059<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> What do we want to do with it?\n<\/ul>\n<li> Calendar\/Lighting\/gdata Buildbots\n<li> Blog aggregator\n<li> Thunderbird on OS X\u00a0: mZdiff:-1660944264 (-1.66Gb) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=448003\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=448003\">bug 448003<\/a>\n<li> XCode 3.1 &amp; OS X 10.5\n<li> Monitoring\n<ul>\n<li> We are now monitoring tons more of internal stuff\n<li> We (I) am now being paged when anything funny happens\n<li> We (I) am now being paged when MoCo&#8217;s TB buildbots go broken\n<\/ul>\n<li> Working on the <a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Infrastructure\/Roadmap\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Infrastructure\/Roadmap\">IT Roadmap<\/a>\n<li> <i>Day off: Friday (not 100% certain yet)<\/i>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"clarkbw\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> clarkbw <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Additional work done on\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=446306\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=446306\">bug 446306<\/a> Mailbox centric folder pane, pulling in other related bugs\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449691\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449691\">bug 449691<\/a> New Message Reader and related bugs. Added more designs\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/clarkbw.net\/designs\/msg-reader\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/clarkbw.net\/designs\/msg-reader\/\">Message Reader Designs<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviewed\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=445088\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=445088\">bug 445088<\/a>  quote_inline and mail.content_disposition_type prefs\n<li> Most of the bugs linked to the prefs UI cleanup <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=448716\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=448716\">bug 448716<\/a>, ping me if I missed one\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=132121\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=132121\">bug 132121<\/a> can&#8217;t undo shift-delete\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=408338\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=408338\">bug 408338<\/a> session restore\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Looking into\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=320178\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=320178\">bug 320178<\/a> for recurring events\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Created new toolbar prototype for TB3, will be filing bug regarding changes soon.\n<li> Will be out on Friday and Monday\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"wsmwk\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> wsmwk <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Bugday and triage offline\/online bugs\n<li> <a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Thunderbird3\/TestResults\/Alpha2\" title=\"QA\/Thunderbird3\/TestResults\/Alpha2\">QA 3.0a2<\/a>\n<li> Filing bugs against litmus\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"jcranmer\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> jcranmer <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Cleaning up nsIMsgIncomingServer <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=435775\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=435775\">bug 435775<\/a>\n<li> Checked in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=413260\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=413260\">bug 413260<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Set up [<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/Pidgeot18_gmail.com\/ab_rewrite\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/Pidgeot18_gmail.com\/ab_rewrite\/\">branch for AB refactoring<\/a>]\n<li> Working on cardForEmail refactoring <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449618\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449618\">bug 449618<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Will probably not be on call (traveling to Atlanta)\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"beckley\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> beckley <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"KaiRo\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> KaiRo <\/span> <\/h5>\n<p><a name=\"rkent\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> rkent <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> BIFF and new flag issues\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=441932\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=441932\">bug 441932<\/a> &#8220;Keep lists of new messages only in nsMsgDBFolder&#8221; still needs an initial comment on overall approach by bienvenu before I can make further progress. Existing patch has already bitrotted.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=347994\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=347994\">bug 347994<\/a> I&#8217;ve been pushing for some reviews of this simple patch to fix an intermittent issue in display of the new mail dialog &#8211; but it&#8217;s hard because the existing code claims it is fixing some obscure layout problem that nobody knows about.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Junk mail\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449768\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=449768\">bug 449768<\/a> &#8220;Reindexing should save junk-related metadata&#8221; I started work on this after discussions on m.d.a.thunderbird about direction.\n<li> Junk Percent views: I&#8217;ve had various discussions about how and whether to display the junkpercent variable. I currently believe it should be displayed as a number in a a &#8220;Possible Junk&#8221; view.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=444220\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=444220\">bug 444220<\/a> &#8220;Can&#8217;t change junk folder in account settings&#8221; I&#8217;ve got an initial patch for this regression, but I want to check it again before review.\n<li> Other: I want to do some work on tokenization soon to clean up how tokens are selected. This would include 1) eliminate worthless common tokens such as Message-ID, 2) test including &#8220;,&#8221; as a token limiter so we can pickup comma-delimited items in headers (such as SA rule match fields), 3) investigate why header tokens are not length-limited.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Misc\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=438414\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=438414\">bug 438414<\/a> I&#8217;ve got a fix for this crasher, but the fix leaks. I&#8217;m in the middle of dealing now with the glories of reference counting cycles to get it to not crash and not leak.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"rebron\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><span class=\"mw-headline\"> rebron <\/span> <\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Auditing Thunderbird mktg messages.\n<li> Working on product analysis, Zimbra, Windows [Live] Mail, Mac Mail.\n<li> Working on Thunderbird dashboard and baseline metrics.\n<li> Wrapping up toi\/data transfer of Thunderbird 2 marketing\/pr launch activities and Start page.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Attendees\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p>davida, dmose, Standard8, asuth, bienvenu, emre, gozer, clarkbw, wsmwk, KaiRo, rkent, rebron<\/p>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-08-12\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-08-12<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2008-08-12 From MozillaWiki last meeting | index | next week \u00bb Thunderbird Meeting Details Tuesday, Aug 12, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern) How to dial-in Agenda Who&#8217;s taking minutes? 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