{"id":364,"date":"2010-08-24T23:00:07","date_gmt":"2010-08-25T03:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/364"},"modified":"2010-08-24T23:00:07","modified_gmt":"2010-08-25T03:00:07","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2010-08-24","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/364","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2010-08-24"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-08-24<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-08-17\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-08-17\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-08-31&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-08-31 (page does not exist)\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<table>\n<caption> <b>Current Release Schedules<\/b><br \/>\n<\/caption>\n<tr>\n<th width=\"33%\"> Thunderbird 3.2 <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.1.3 <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.0.7<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> To Be Announced<\/p>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Relbranch opens: July 30\n<li> Code freeze: Aug 20 @ 23:59 PDT\n<li> L10n freeze: Aug 24 @ 23:59 PDT\n<li> Builds start: Aug 24\n<li> QA with builds start: Aug 25\n<li> Beta period starts: Aug 27\n<li> Final release: Sept 7\n<\/ul>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Relbranch opens: July 30\n<li> Code freeze: Aug 20 @ 23:59 PDT\n<li> L10n freeze: Aug 24 @ 23:59 PDT\n<li> Builds start: Aug 24\n<li> QA with builds start: Aug 25\n<li> Beta period starts: Aug 27\n<li> Final release: Sept 7\n<\/ul>\n<\/table>\n<p>\n<b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2010&amp;month=08&amp;day=24&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, August 24th, 16:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>bwinton<\/b>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida for schedule changes\/additions.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Thanks to our <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/en\/Glossary#FotT\" rel=\"nofollow\">Friends of the Tree<\/a>  When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"mailto:rebron@mozillamessaging.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">rebron@mozillamessaging.com<\/a> so that he can send them a <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/9hzJqh\" rel=\"nofollow\">shirt<\/a>!\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Funnel Cake 2 target ship Wednesday evening\/Thursday morning.\n<li> Bug 582240, 589927, 589945, 589930, 589937, 589941, 589943\n<li> ISP DB conversion 31% to 40% success rate. Top missing domains: psmtp.com, ocn.ad.jp, cox.net, att.net, interia.pl, ispgateway.de, aon.at, safe4mail.cz, ewetel.de, one.com\n<li> The German build won&#8217;t trigger the cancel install survey.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a><\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Account Provisioning.\n<li> Pluggable Mailstore.\n<ul>\n<li> About 50% done, and basically usable.\n<li> Got move\/copy working with pluggable stores.\n<li> Worked on getting more unit tests to pass with pluggable stores.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Looking for more feedback on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/mozillalabs.com\/messaging\/mailing-list-manager\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mailing List Manager<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> File: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bitbucket.org\/mixedpuppy\/maillistfilter\/issues?status=new&amp;status=open\" rel=\"nofollow\">issue tracker<\/a>\n<li> Give: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/feedback.mozillalabs.com\/forums\/68185-messaging-add-ons?_session_id=20f5db6fd93ccdeb79488084254de3fe\" rel=\"nofollow\">user feedback<\/a>\n<li> Gathering final feedback for coming updated release\n<\/ul>\n<li> Updating <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bitbucket.org\/dmose\/mutethread\" rel=\"nofollow\">MuteThread<\/a> for wider release of some sort, hopefully this week.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 3.2 <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> approval-thunderbird3.2a1 now set up. More flags coming soon.\n<li> 3.2 Branch on hold until account provisioning schedule is clearer.\n<ul>\n<li> Will bump trunk to 3.3a1pre in the meantime to reflect bugzilla flags.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Trunk Development <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Some libxul work started, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=585947\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 585947<\/a> is the tracker.\n<li> Help on fixing up trunk welcome, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;status_whiteboard=%5Btbtrunkneeds%5D&amp;resolution=---\" rel=\"nofollow\">this list of higher priority bugs<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Stability &amp; Security Releases <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Bug Lists: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.0\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.0<\/a>\n<li> 3.0.7 and 3.1.3 will likely happen today.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major updates to 3.1 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Prompted major updates to TB 3.1.2.\n<ul>\n<li> 3.0.6 users are now being prompted (probably about 300k transitioned so far).\n<li> Initial 2.0.0.24 -&gt; 3.1.2 push planned for today August.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> testing events are announced on the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/thunderbird-testers\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thunderbird-testers<\/a> mailing list.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/dhyNL7\" rel=\"nofollow\">crash\/ADU, current week<\/a> &#8211; no major changes seen post v2 MU (didn&#8217;t add 3.1.3pre because it skews the graph)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Press update: Quiet week.  A few articles: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.booshnews.com\/2010\/08\/14\/mozilla-thunderbird-vs-microsoft-outlook\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">1<\/a>,<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/technology\/askjack\/2010\/aug\/19\/email-google\" rel=\"nofollow\">2<\/a>\n<li> ADUs: 5.5MM ADUs, 1.8MM for Tb 3.1, 1.2MM for Tb 3.0, and 2.5MM on Tb 2.\n<li> Starting web site evaluation to move to a mozilla.org\/thunderbird and GetThunderbird.com branding to match mozilla.org\/firefox and firefox.com and de-emphasizing mozilla.com and mozillamessaging.com\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> IT update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Build\n<ul>\n<li> Nightly\/dep builds now using shared Firefox buildbot factories\n<li> Lost en-US nightly updates over the week-end\n<li> Code drift from Firefox almost nothing left\n<li> Bloat builders are left\n<li> l10n afterpush builds on all branches (<i>limited locales on comm-1.9.x<\/i>)\n<li> Funnelcake 2 builds\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Web\n<ul>\n<li> ISBDB web work in progress (<i>Sancus<\/i>)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Support <\/span><\/h3>\n<ol>\n<li> GS Cloud or CDN issues on the weekend, updates were invisible on the website to some folks, visible to others, will follow up\n<li> # of support issues on GS is up 24% from last week, generally higher even before major update 2-&gt;3.1 switched on, no major update GS spike, yet!\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1 Support Issues<\/a> &#8211; TB2-&gt;3.1 User confusion with autoconfig &#8220;Manual Setup&#8230;&#8221; button:  It is NOT the full manual setup users expect; it actually means  &#8220;create an account with the currently displayed settings including POP or IMAP and edit it manually afterwards&#8221; (since the account is created you can&#8217;t change POP to IMAP or vice versa) as opposed to an account creation screen where you can choose POP or IMAP and then create the account manually! <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/FAQ+Changing+IMAP+to+POP\" rel=\"nofollow\">SuMoMo IMAP to POP<\/a> article is unclear so will modify as well as do a screencast.\n<li> SuMoMo &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/de\/kb\/\u00dcbersetzungs\u00fcbersicht\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thomas Lendo (thanks) translated localization dashboard to German<\/a> &#8211; need to verify it&#8217;s correct but it looks good\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-08-24\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-08-24\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details &#8211;\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Build Symbols for 1.0b2 mac\/win32 release have been uploaded. For future crashes, we might have more info on what part of calendar is misbehaving\n<li> In light of that, we seem to have a load of windows crashes, need to investigate\n<li> Our new 1.0b3 blocker list is up, not much change from what was proposed.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>dmose, davida, rebron, clarkbw, bwinton, sancus, bienvenu, usul, rolandtanglao, gozer, phillip<\/p>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-08-24\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-08-24<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div id=\"catlinks\">\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\" id=\"catlinks\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-08-24 From MozillaWiki &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings last meeting | index | next meeting \u00bb Current Release Schedules Thunderbird 3.2 Thunderbird 3.1.3 Thunderbird 3.0.7 To Be Announced Relbranch opens: July 30 Code freeze: Aug 20 @ 23:59 PDT L10n freeze: Aug 24 @ 23:59 PDT Builds start: Aug 24 QA with builds start: Aug 25 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[40],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/364"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=364"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/364\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=364"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=364"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=364"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}