{"id":383,"date":"2010-09-15T23:00:11","date_gmt":"2010-09-16T03:00:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/383"},"modified":"2010-09-15T23:00:11","modified_gmt":"2010-09-16T03:00:11","slug":"mobile-meeting-minutes-2010-09-15","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/383","title":{"rendered":"Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2010-09-15"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Mobile\/Notes\/15-Sep-2010<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\" title=\"Mobile\">Mobile<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\" title=\"Mobile\/Notes\">Notes<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Details <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)\n<li> irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Planning\/2.0#Timeline\" title=\"Mobile\/Planning\/2.0\"> timeline<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Beta 1 code freeze: Sept 13 (slipped but we are close)\n<li> Design freeze: Sept 16\n<li> Beta 2 code freeze: Sept 23 (might depend on Beta 1 slip)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major Topics for This Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Crashes\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=595868\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 595868<\/a> 20 second crash (garbage collection related?  Android only? We have stack traces on Android.)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596382\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596382<\/a> N900 content crash (shows content for a little while)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596433\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596433<\/a> Illegal instruction on Android (has a fix, needs a little work)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=594563\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 594563<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596482\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596482<\/a> Regular expression on Android\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Front-end <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Working on Beta 1 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking-fennec%3A2.0b1%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\">blockers<\/a>\n<li> Also working on Beta 2 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking-fennec%3A2.0b2%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\">blockers<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Login Manager patchs landed and we have some followup work for it\n<li> Tile Manager patch has been reviewed and should be OK to land when cedar lands on m-c. We have some followup bugs to file.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Features (see <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Planning\/2.0\" title=\"Mobile\/Planning\/2.0\"> Planning<\/a> page)\n<ul>\n<li> Sharing backend for Android and Maemo was pushed to Beta 2\n<li> Beta Feedback XPI landed\n<li> We have done some work on simplifying the downloads around downloading\n<li> Webapps for Maemo might land for Beta 1\n<li> RSS support is ready for another review\n<li> Android theme is underway\n<li> Need Madhava feedback on Master Password patch\n<li> Making a final decision on clipboard context menu\n<\/ul>\n<li> Working with Madhava on UX designs and loose ends\n<ul>\n<li> Design freeze is looming\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> UX design <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Android theme work is ready for final review;  see it here:\n<\/ul>\n<p><a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/madhava_work\/sets\/72157624962763028\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/madhava_work\/sets\/72157624962763028\/<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<ul>\n<li> accompanying notes on their way\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> finishing flow explanations for\n<ul>\n<li> meego vkb\n<li> android and meego sharing (just to be perfectly clear!)\n<li> copy paste\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The following set of bugs describes the changes to what&#8217;s in the nightly front end to get to what we want.  In terms of screen layout, the android theme mockups (and bug) shows the changes required.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Add-ons Manager\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596594\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596594<\/a> &#8211; ability to browse more add-ons in add-ons manager\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=594795\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 594795<\/a> &#8211; Add a &#8220;What&#8217;s an Add-on&#8221; block to the Add-ons Manager\n<\/ul>\n<li>Sharing redesign\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596609\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596609<\/a> &#8211; share items from the awesomescreen\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596615\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596615<\/a> &#8211; autobookmark shared pages\/links\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596632\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596632<\/a> &#8211; on n900, make sure that SMS and email are sharing options\n<\/ul>\n<li>Awesomescreen\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596612\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596612<\/a> &#8211; indicate &#8220;remote&#8221; pages in awesomescreen results\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596614\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596614<\/a> &#8211; focusing the URL field on the awesomescreen should not visibly change categories\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596626\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596626<\/a> &#8211; Use the vkb with &#8220;Go&#8221; button when on awesomescreen\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=594918\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 594918<\/a> &#8211; dismiss vkb as a user starts to pan the awesomelist\n<\/ul>\n<li> Titlebar\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596617\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596617<\/a> &#8211; stop button should be responsive\n<\/ul>\n<li>Find in page\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596619\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596619<\/a> &#8211; panning the page during findbar use shouldn&#8217;t dismiss the findbar\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596621\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596621<\/a> &#8211; findbar &#8211; need to indicate when no matches found\n<\/ul>\n<li>Undo Close Tab\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=582583\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 582583<\/a> &#8211; Expose a small, simple UI for &#8216;Undo Closed Tab&#8217;\n<\/ul>\n<li>Presf Pane\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596629\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596629<\/a> &#8211; Use vkb with &#8220;next&#8221; button when in prefs (sync)\n<\/ul>\n<li>Themeing\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596625\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596625<\/a> &#8211; Theme Fennec for Android\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Maemo <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Qt <\/span><\/h3>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Android <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Custom dlopen <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=588607\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 588607<\/a> 2\/3rds done\n<ul>\n<li> Can load libraries via our own dlopen\n<li> Need to add new interface to load from regions within a file\n<li> Compression may be difficult\n<\/ul>\n<li> Investigating using gold <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596024\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596024<\/a>\n<li> updater landed, aki testing on the server side\n<li> we crash on startup\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Electrolysis <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layers<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Layers#2.0_b1_TODO\" title=\"Mobile\/Layers\">Some TODOs for b1<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> General Platform <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Valgrind on ARM making progress!  Go Julian!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Geolocation Working Group <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Video <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Camera <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Slipping the last of the platform pieces that aren&#8217;t NPOTB for firefox into the tree today.  (565843 needs approval2.0)\n<li> Dealing with a fun bug that a previous patch exposed (Bug 594964)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Plugins <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Networking <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Patches done for nsIEncodedChannel support in e10s (needed to get gzip\/gunzip right for some cases), need review+landing, which should hopefully happen today.\n<li> Working on Pause\/Resume regression described in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596402\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596402<\/a>\n<li> Working w\/ Honza on crash\/assert-botch described in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596059\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596059<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Graphics <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Startup <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Content <\/span><\/h3>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release Engineering <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> android update status &#8212; in progress.\n<ul>\n<li> patches look good but i&#8217;m uploading snippets to the wrong place &#8212; i need to upload them to the *previous* nightly&#8217;s buildid; same with release patches\n<li> hoping to fix\/review\/land nightly patches today.\n<\/ul>\n<li> android l10n &#8212; will need to investigate how omnijar will change things\n<li> android tests &#8212; launching tests, running into remote logging issues\n<ul>\n<li> bear to try using patches attached to bugs\n<ul>\n<li> android unit\/talos tests testing with patch for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596132\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596132<\/a> to finalize steps\n<\/ul>\n<li> bug to order 10 tegras filed\n<\/ul>\n<li> tinderbox greenness &#8212; I suspect talos isn&#8217;t crashing due to e10s?\n<ul>\n<li> unit tests have been red\/orange but hid them yesterday at Stuart&#8217;s request\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Manual <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> QA is having a work week, so take this opportunity to take to your 2.0 feature QA for anything that they should know.\n<li> Notes:\n<ul>\n<li> Builds are complete broken over the past 2-3 days. We can&#8217;t provide any test coverage <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?resolution=FIXED&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;chfield=bug_status&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;chfieldfrom=2010-08-10&amp;chfieldvalue=resolved&amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;product=Fennec\" rel=\"nofollow\">on a lot of bugs<\/a> until builds are actually stable.\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=595868\" rel=\"nofollow\">Builds are crashing<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Others: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596482\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596482<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596289\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596289<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596433\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596433<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=594563\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 594563<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596382\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pages don&#8217;t load<\/a> because the content process crashes\n<li> Finally, why is <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596610\" rel=\"nofollow\">tinderbox green across the board<\/a> when all of our builds are crashing on startup?\n<li> Finallyx2, why did we not branch before jagermonkey landed?\n<li> Finallyx3, where was the testing on ARM for jagermonkey before it landed?\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> New Bugs over the week: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/97ReXI\" rel=\"nofollow\">filed<\/a>\n<li> Results from <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/Waverley#Results\" rel=\"nofollow\">nightly Smoketest runs<\/a>.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/quality.mozilla.org\/qmo-news\/2010\/09\/14\/firefox-moible-2-beta-testday-results\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">MobiFx Testday<\/a> Results\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Automation <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> talos\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=582997\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 582997<\/a> &#8211; working patch for android and n900, r+ need to land.  YAY tpan\/tzoom party time!\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> android\n<ul>\n<li> lots of little fixes in the patch queue now, sounds like\u00a0:bear has done a lot of work as we are finding some of these little bugs now:)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> browser-chrome &#8211; need some attention, carryover from last week\n<ul>\n<li> new test files <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=489163\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 489163<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=570706\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 570706<\/a> are blocked on awesomebar problem\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=593463\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 593463<\/a> &#8211; awesomescreen.js problem\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> [<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Fennec_Unittests\/green#mochitest\" rel=\"nofollow\">mochitest: green<\/a>]\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=590121\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 590121<\/a> &#8211; FIXED\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=590248\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 590248<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=587646\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 587646<\/a> account for 60% of known mochitest failures on n900!, no progress on these two bugs?!  Still no traction on this &#8211; WEEK #4!!!\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Other <\/span><\/h2>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/15-Sep-2010\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/15-Sep-2010<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div id=\"catlinks\">\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\" id=\"catlinks\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mobile\/Notes\/15-Sep-2010 From MozillaWiki &lt; Mobile | Notes Details Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL) 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US) irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel Schedule See timeline Beta 1 code freeze: Sept 13 (slipped but we are close) Design freeze: Sept 16 Beta 2 code freeze: [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[124],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/383"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=383"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/383\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=383"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=383"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=383"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}