{"id":386,"date":"2010-09-21T23:00:12","date_gmt":"2010-09-22T03:00:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/386"},"modified":"2010-09-21T23:00:12","modified_gmt":"2010-09-22T03:00:12","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2010-09-21","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/386","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2010-09-21"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-09-21<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-09-14\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-09-14\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-09-28&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-09-28 (page does not exist)\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<table>\n<caption> <b>Current Release Schedules<\/b><br \/>\n<\/caption>\n<tr>\n<th width=\"33%\"> Thunderbird 3.2 <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.1.5 <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.0.9<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> To Be Announced<\/p>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze: Sept 30 @ 23:59 PDT\n<li> L10n freeze: Oct 3 @ 23:59 PDT\n<li> Builds start: Oct 4\n<li> QA with builds start: Oct 5\n<li> Beta period starts: Oct 6\n<li> Final release: Oct 14\n<\/ul>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze: Oct 1 @ 23:59 PDT\n<li> L10n freeze: Oct 4 @ 23:59 PDT\n<li> Builds start: Oct 5\n<li> QA with builds start: Oct 6\n<li> Beta period starts: Oct 7\n<li> Final release: Oct 14\n<\/ul>\n<\/table>\n<p>\n<b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2010&amp;month=09&amp;day=21&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, September 21st, 16:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>Standard8<\/b>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida for schedule changes\/additions.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Thanks to our <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/en\/Glossary#FotT\" rel=\"nofollow\">Friends of the Tree<\/a>  When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"mailto:rebron@mozillamessaging.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">rebron@mozillamessaging.com<\/a> so that he can send them a <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/9hzJqh\" rel=\"nofollow\">shirt<\/a>!\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Eric Moore aka <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/kb.mozillazine.org\/User:Tanstaafl\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tanstaafl<\/a> for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/kb.mozillazine.org\/Common_misconceptions_about_Thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Common misconceptions about Thunderbird<\/a> and all the great work at <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/kb.mozillazine.org\" rel=\"nofollow\">kb.mozillazine.org<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> 38% &#8211; 50% ISPBD conversion success rate.  Top 12 missing domains: ocn.ad.jp, psmtp.com, cox.net, interia.pl, aon.at, skynet.be, netease.com, ntlworld.com, shaw.ca, one.com, eonet.ne.jp, outlook.com\n<li> Starting to plan for Funnel Cake 3, off of 3.1.5.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a><\/span><\/h4>\n<p>Account Provisioner:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Had a great meeting with a potential partner about how we should work together.\n<li> Seems like their API will be largely defined by our needs.\n<li> They raised a few questions which I need to discuss with other people.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 3.2 <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> 3.2 planned to be released from a comm-1.9.2 branch\n<li> Waiting for account provisioning discussions to progress before making decision on if\/when to cut it.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Trunk Development <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=564737\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 564737<\/a> Has landed on trunk, fixing the white space before the first character in emails. <b>Please test and verify no regressions (check in Thunderbird &amp; Firefox)<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ccgi.standard8.plus.com\/blog\/archives\/422\" rel=\"nofollow\">Trunk version bumped to 3.3a1pre<\/a>\n<li> Libxul\n<ul>\n<li> Now up for review. Hoping to land in the next couple of days.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Add-on Manager\n<ul>\n<li> Once current trunk bustage is fixed, this will be moving to a tab, please give it some testing once that happens.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Help on fixing up trunk welcome, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;field0-0-0=status_whiteboard&amp;type0-0-1=equals&amp;value0-0-1=blocking-thunderbird-next%2B&amp;type0-0-0=substring&amp;field0-0-1=flagtypes.name&amp;value0-0-0=%5Btbtrunkneeds%5D&amp;resolution=---\" rel=\"nofollow\">this list of higher priority bugs<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Stability &amp; Security Releases <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/mzl.la\/tb_314\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1.4 and 3.0.8<\/a> released with some small fixes.\n<li> 3.1.5 and 3.0.9 now being planned (see dates above).\n<li> Bug Lists: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.0\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.0<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major updates to 3.1 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Now just under 60% of users on TB 3.1.x.\n<li> We&#8217;ll be starting another major update push for 3.0.x users next week (once they have got past the 3.0.6\/7 -&gt; 3.0.8 updates).\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> We need more people to use the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/perso.hirlimann.net\/~ludo\/blog\/archives\/2010\/09\/we-need-more-user-on-the-beta-channel.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">beta channel<\/a>\n<li> Want to follow up our testing activities &#8211; join the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/thunderbird-testers\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thunderbird-tester mailing list<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> PR: Several pickups regarding last weeks updates <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theinquirer.net\/inquirer\/news\/1733661\/mozilla-updates-thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">1<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.h-online.com\/security\/news\/item\/Mozilla-releases-Thunderbird-updates-1080961.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">2<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ghacks.net\/2010\/09\/17\/email-client-thunderbird-3-1-4-released\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">3<\/a>\n<li> Reached 6.2MM ADUs last week.  Still carrying about 1.7MM users on Thunderbird 2.\n<li> Ongoing: Working with mozilla.org\/Mozilla.com on web site updates.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> IT update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Builders updated to 0.8\n<li> Try buildbot master updated to 0.8\n<li> Working on updating other masters to 0.8.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" rel=\"nofollow\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<ol>\n<li> 840 new support topics, 830 last week so no major spike\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1 Support Issues<\/a> i) Remote Images not showing for some folks (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/mozilla_messaging\/tags\/remote_images_review\" rel=\"nofollow\">currently 6 GS topics<\/a>-is this a 3.1.3 or 3.1.4 regression?); ii) only a few instances of what look like the Gecko null check at startup,i.e. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=594699\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 594699<\/a>, the primary bug for 3.1.4 iii) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/mozilla_messaging\/topics\/tb_3_1_inserts_space_at_the_start_of_a_sent_message_discussion_of_bugs_in_mozilla_thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">vocal minority of users very unhappy with slowness of space fix<\/a>\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-09-21\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-09-21\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details &#8211;\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-09-21\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-09-21<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div id=\"catlinks\">\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\" id=\"catlinks\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-09-21 From MozillaWiki &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings last meeting | index | next meeting \u00bb Current Release Schedules Thunderbird 3.2 Thunderbird 3.1.5 Thunderbird 3.0.9 To Be Announced Code freeze: Sept 30 @ 23:59 PDT L10n freeze: Oct 3 @ 23:59 PDT Builds start: Oct 4 QA with builds start: Oct 5 Beta period starts: Oct [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[40],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/386"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=386"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/386\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=386"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=386"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=386"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}