{"id":393,"date":"2010-09-29T23:00:05","date_gmt":"2010-09-30T03:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/393"},"modified":"2010-09-29T23:00:05","modified_gmt":"2010-09-30T03:00:05","slug":"firefoxgecko-delivery-meeting-minutes-2010-09-29","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/393","title":{"rendered":"Firefox\/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2010-09-29"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Firefox\/Planning\/2010-09-29<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\" title=\"Firefox\">Firefox<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\">Planning<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2010-09-08\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2010-09-08\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a class=\"mw-redirect\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\" title=\"Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2010-09-22\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2010-09-22\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Firefox\/Gecko Delivery Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC\n<li> Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room\n<li> Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\" rel=\"nofollow\">irc.mozilla.org #planning<\/a> for backchannel\n<li> (the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform#Meetings\" title=\"Platform\">developer meeting<\/a> takes place on Tuesdays)\n<\/ul>\n<div style=\"margin: 1em 0px;padding: 1em;background-color: orange;text-align: center\"><b>REMEMBER<\/b><\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: x-small\">These notes are read by people who weren&#8217;t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <b><big>Agenda<\/big><\/b> <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> actions from last week:\n<li> schedule and progress on upcoming releases\n<li> review highlights and notices\n<li> respond to questions and concerns\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Action Items<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule &amp; Progress on <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\" title=\"Releases\">Upcoming Releases<\/a> <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Post-mortems\/Firefox_3.6.9\" title=\"Releases\/Post-mortems\/Firefox 3.6.9\">Firefox 3.6.9 post-mortem<\/a> is tomorrow @ 1:00 pm PDT\n<\/ul>\n<p><b><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.6.11\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.6.11\">Firefox 3.6.11<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.5.14\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.5.14\">3.5.14<\/a><\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> We are checking on two blockers, as they may still be able to land today\n<li> Once we get word back about them we will land and\/or be ready to build without them\n<li> I am checking the top crasher reports to make sure there are no crashers in functions we took changes to\n<li> Geo is checking to make sure we don&#8217;t regress ASLR support on Windows, as we took changes to NSS and NSPR and shouldn&#8217;t have had to carry our custom patches forward\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>I intend to give the go for build today (<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/Firefox_3.6.11\" title=\"Releases\/Firefox 3.6.11\">on schedule<\/a>), timing depends on the above<\/b>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Input <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Input\/Releases\/1.8\" title=\"Firefox\/Input\/Releases\/1.8\">Input 1.8<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Went out <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/aakash.doesthings.com\/2010\/09\/28\/firefox-input-1-8-krieger-is-out\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">last night<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Input\/Releases\/1.9\" title=\"Firefox\/Input\/Releases\/1.9\">Input 1.9<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> ETA: 10\/7\n<li> Features: Product differentiation on Themes and Sites, fallout from 1.8 release\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Labs\/Jetpack\/SDK\/0.8\" title=\"Labs\/Jetpack\/SDK\/0.8\">Jetpack SDK 0.8<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> released on Monday, September 27 (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/addons\/2010\/09\/27\/announcing-jetpack-sdk-0-8\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">announcement<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Labs\/Jetpack\/SDK\/0.9\" title=\"Labs\/Jetpack\/SDK\/0.9\">Jetpack SDK 0.9<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> tree thawed for development on Friday, September 24\n<li> tree freezes for stabilization on Wednesday, October 13 (11am PT, 18:00UTC)\n<li> on tap: passing tests on recent Firefox 4 nightlies, progress on E10S (the new bane of my existence), conversion of event-handling API to EventEmitter model, and more\n<li> based on the current trajectory, we do not expect to reach beta with this release nor a feature-complete beta by end Q4, although we hear our Firefox-team-based rocketeers are itching to get back to Jetpack development, which could change that, and we are scratching for them to do so!\n<li> planning for the next four releases is underway, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla-labs-jetpack\/browse_thread\/thread\/8c15ccc6e95f85af\" rel=\"nofollow\">discussion<\/a> for details\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Labs\/Jetpack\/FlightDeck\/1.0a5\" title=\"Labs\/Jetpack\/FlightDeck\/1.0a5\">Add-on Builder 1.0a5<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> pushed to production Thursday, September 23\n<li> Daniel Buchner taking on product management\n<li> AMO team taking on development\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Highlights \/ Notices <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Firefox 4 Beta 6 Feedback\n<ul>\n<li>Positives\n<ul>\n<li>Love the new UI\n<li>Love the speed enhancements\n<li>Love App Tabs, Panorama\n<\/ul>\n<li>Issues\/bugs\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<table class=\"standard-table\">\n<tr>\n<th scope=\"col\"> Issue<\/p>\n<th scope=\"col\"> SUMO<\/p>\n<th scope=\"col\"> Input<\/p>\n<th scope=\"col\"> Buglink<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> &#8220;The operation can not be completed because of an internal failure.&#8221;<\/p>\n<td> ~250 users<\/p>\n<td> 76<\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=588511\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 588511<\/a> [FIXED]<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> NTLM proxies block HTTPS sites<\/p>\n<td> ~170<\/p>\n<td> 41<\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=592197\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 592197<\/a> [FIXED]<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Direct2D-related (flash\/text rendering)<\/p>\n<td> ~120 (mostly font\/blurry)<\/p>\n<td> 32 (text) + 28 (flash rendering) + 14 (video controls)<\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=588880\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 588880<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=593839\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 593839<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=579597\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 579597<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=595277\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 595277<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> title bar is black (+ OSX)<\/p>\n<td> 10<\/p>\n<td> 38<\/p>\n<td><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=588550\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 588550<\/a> [FIXED],<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=594992\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 594992<\/a><br \/>\n<\/table>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<ul>\n<li>Other feature requests\/concerns\n<ul>\n<li>Linux theme?\n<li>Combine url and search bar\n<li>Java crashes <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/748840\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/748840<\/a>\n<li>its slower switching tabs than previous betas (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=595927\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 595927<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Questions and Concerns <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> [joduinn] Can we schedule another prompted (unthrottled) Major Update?\n<ul>\n<li> Still have ~34% of users on FF3.0, FF3.5.\n<li> according to <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases#Previous_Releases\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases#Previous_Releases<\/a>, we&#8217;ve only offered prompted MU twice since shipping FF3.6.0:\n<ul>\n<li> March11-22: Firefox 3.5.8 \/ 3.0.19 -&gt; Firefox 3.6.0\n<li> July13-20: Firefox 3.5.10 \/ 3.0.19 -&gt; Firefox 3.6.6\n<\/ul>\n<li> [clegnitto] We had planned to do this last week, people had concerns it was too soon and would cause update fatigue. My plan is to do it next week (resources permitting)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Press &amp; Public Reactions <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-30685_3-20017980-264.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Coming soon: Hardware-accelerated Firefox on Mac<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.conceivablytech.com\/2976\/products\/an-early-look-at-firefox-4\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">An Early Look At Firefox 4<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/epicenter\/2010\/09\/firefox-for-android-is-growing-up-fast\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox for Android Is Growing Up Fast<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2010-09-29\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2010-09-29<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div id=\"catlinks\">\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\" id=\"catlinks\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Firefox\/Planning\/2010-09-29 From MozillaWiki &lt; Firefox | Planning \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Firefox\/Gecko Delivery Meeting Details Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL) 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US) [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[30],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/393"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=393"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/393\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=393"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=393"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=393"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}