{"id":407,"date":"2010-10-19T23:00:18","date_gmt":"2010-10-20T03:00:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/407"},"modified":"2010-10-19T23:00:18","modified_gmt":"2010-10-20T03:00:18","slug":"mozilla-platform-meeting-minutes-2010-10-19","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/407","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2010-10-19"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Platform\/2010-10-19<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">Platform<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2010-10-12\" title=\"Platform\/2010-10-12\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2010-10-26&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Platform\/2010-10-26 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Notices \/ Schedule <\/span><\/h1>\n<p><b> Firefox 4 Beta 7<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> still waiting for GC compartments to land on the relbranch\n<ul>\n<li> compatibility issues with JetPack and Firebug\n<li> stability issues (see roundtable)\n<li> minor theme tweaks are being landed in both places\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Firefox 3.6.11<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Firefox 3.5.14<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Blocker Report <\/span><\/h1>\n<p>A handy list of <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/4\/Triage\" title=\"Firefox\/4\/Triage\">Firefox 4 triage queries<\/a> is available:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Beta 7: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Abeta7\" rel=\"nofollow\">19 blockers<\/a>\n<li> Beta: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Abeta\" rel=\"nofollow\">486 blockers<\/a>\n<li> Final: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Afinal\" rel=\"nofollow\">389 blockers<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> TOTAL: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Afinal,beta\" rel=\"nofollow\">875 blockers<\/a>\n<li> nominations: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=OPEN%20blocking2.0%3A%22%3F%22\" rel=\"nofollow\">183 nominations<\/a>\n<li> ready to land: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0:beta,final%20sw:land,checkin\" rel=\"nofollow\">12 blockers ready<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Development <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Need to find owners for the high priority <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Projects\/New_Theme\/Timeline\" title=\"Firefox\/Projects\/New Theme\/Timeline\">unowned theme bugs<\/a>\n<li> Need help making <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=588764\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 588764<\/a> performant (roc\/vlad?)\n<\/ul>\n<p>(from our <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Goals\/2010Q4\" title=\"Firefox\/Goals\/2010Q4\">goals<\/a>):\n<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Finish Firefox 4\n<ul>\n<li> 0 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Abeta,final%20prod:toolkit,firefox\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox\/Toolkit blockers<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: blue;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[CARRY OVER]<\/span> API-Complete Jetpack\n<ul>\n<li> Joint with Jetpack team\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Stand up basic Firefox with Electrolysis\n<ul>\n<li> Joint with Platform\n<li> UI may not be functional, should launch and open a web page.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Developer Tools <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Finish Firefox 4 developer tools\n<ul>\n<li> 0 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Abeta,final%20prod:firefox%20comp:developer\" rel=\"nofollow\">blocking developer tools bugs<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Ensure that Firefox 4 ships with a compatible version of Firebug\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Publish a roadmap for integrated developer tools in Firefox, including console, inspection, and js debugging\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Develop long term plan for Skywriter maintenance\/support\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Platform <\/span><\/h1>\n<p>Breakdown of all 2.0 blocker and current assignments. Shows a lot of items in unassigned lists (nobody, general.js)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/9lZFIj\" rel=\"nofollow\">Blocker assignments<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>There are about 31 crash bugs where the blocking status has changed since Oct 13th. We removed the dups.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/bKE7nQ\" rel=\"nofollow\">New crashers since 2010-10-13<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>There are about another 22 crash bugs in the nomination queue we would like to get triaged so we have a handle on all the blockers.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/c61Yme\" rel=\"nofollow\">Crashers in the nom queue<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> GFX <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Direct3D 10 layers backend will be turned on by default RSN.\n<ul>\n<li> Needs one or two prerequisites to land first.\n<li> Will give us some pretty great Ts\/Txul wins because we no longer create a D3D9 device.\n<li> Will also help us with newer hardware, like NVIDIA Optimus, which doesn&#8217;t handle the D3D9\/D3D10 interop very well at all.\n<li> Should also get us some perf wins on some heavy rendering sites.\n<\/ul>\n<li> This means that DirectX 9 will only be used on computers incapable of Direct2D, such as XP machines.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> dbaron&#8217;s CSS 2.1 testsuite results: <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/lists.w3.org\/Archives\/Public\/public-css-testsuite\/2010Oct\/0281.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">[1]<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Significantly better than Webkit and Opera, a little behind IE9\n<\/ul>\n<li> Blockers (including SVG and Widget)\n<ul>\n<li> 2 beta8 blockers\n<li> 35 betaN blockers\n<li> 96 final blockers\n<li> 14 requests need triage\n<\/ul>\n<li> Risky issues:\n<ul>\n<li> Laptop trackpad breakage due to hacky drivers sniffing our HWNDs: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=605357\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 605357<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=594977\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 594977<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=593372\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 593372<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Video\/Audio <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Blockers\n<ul>\n<li> 0 beta8 blockers\n<li> 2 betaN blockers\n<li> 10 final blockers\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> JS <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> ES5\n<ul>\n<li> Landings\n<ul>\n<li> strict this landed in TM, also in m-c, to be in b7 soon (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=strictThis\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug strictThis<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Current work\n<ul>\n<li> Making eval in strict mode not affect the variable set of the calling code (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=514568\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 514568<\/a>)\n<li> Refactoring of eval code (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=604504\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 604504<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Tree Management <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Sunday&#8217;s downtime successful. New infrastructure in place, so 650castro has better redundancy, and better bandwidth capacity.\n<li> new firewall deployed during Sunday downtime had a bug related to h323 data\n<ul>\n<li> this caused intermittent network failures whenever anyone started h323 traffic.\n<li> Firewall patched with fix from vendor at ~09:30 Monday, so we *think* all is good.\n<li> meanwhile, if you still see builds\/tests failing because of network issues, please file bug in mozilla.org\/ReleaseEngineering and we&#8217;ll triage.\n<\/ul>\n<li> yesterday&#8217;s power outage in 650castro\n<ul>\n<li> cause unknown, IT still investigating\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> [blizzard] I need some XUL experts\n<li> [smooney] Problems with Stability of the Trunk &#8211; less stable then we were before.\n<ul>\n<li> 2010-10-17, 4500 crashes on the trunk with 31K active users\n<li> 2010-10-13, 1400 crashes on the trunk with 30K active users\n<li> With a similar user set, our crashes have increased by more than 3X.\n<li> More details at <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/CrashKill\/Firefox4#Status\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/CrashKill\/Firefox4#Status<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<li> [ctalbert] Mcote recreated the blocker report stuff that we had in the run up to 3.6\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blocker-reports.brasstacks.mozilla.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Take a look<\/a> and let us know if there&#8217;s anything you like to see throw comments our way in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=599582\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 599582<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2010-10-19\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2010-10-19<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Platform\/2010-10-19 From MozillaWiki &lt; Platform \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Notices \/ Schedule Firefox 4 Beta 7 still waiting for GC compartments to land on the relbranch compatibility issues with JetPack and Firebug stability issues (see roundtable) minor theme tweaks are being landed in both places Firefox 3.6.11 Firefox 3.5.14 Blocker [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[258],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/407"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=407"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/407\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=407"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=407"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=407"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}