{"id":411,"date":"2010-10-20T23:00:26","date_gmt":"2010-10-21T03:00:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/411"},"modified":"2010-10-20T23:00:26","modified_gmt":"2010-10-21T03:00:26","slug":"mobile-meeting-minutes-2010-10-20","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/411","title":{"rendered":"Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2010-10-20"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Mobile\/Notes\/20-Oct-2010<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\" title=\"Mobile\">Mobile<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\" title=\"Mobile\/Notes\">Notes<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Details <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)\n<li> irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Beta 2\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze: Oct 19 (Yesterday)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major Topics for This Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Front-end <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Primarily working on Beta 2 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking-fennec%3A2.0b2%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\">blockers<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Triaging the blocker list to move out non-critical bugs\n<\/ul>\n<li> New Core (nee Android) theme is underway\n<ul>\n<li> Working to get an acceptable level of theme in place\n<li> Polish and tweaking will move to beta 3\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> UX design <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> tracking theme work here (cleaned up today &#8211; should be easier to follow)\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.com:9000\/Y2VnicnWbz\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/etherpad.mozilla.com:9000\/Y2VnicnWbz<\/a>\n<li> using &#8220;polish&#8221; keyword in bugzilla for theme polish nitpicking\n<\/ul>\n<li> some small theme patches going in today (?) which should take a few things off that list\n<li> JPAKE\/weave design work ongoing with beltzner, etc.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> opening some bugs (or adding testcases) to make themeing-useful CSS techniques faster\n<ul>\n<li> border-radius <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=552978\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 552978<\/a>\n<li> box-shadow <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=509052\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 509052<\/a>\n<li> gradients &#8211; to come\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Maemo <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Qt <\/span><\/h3>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Android <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> new dlopen plus making sqlite not be stupid got our install size way down\n<ul>\n<li> everyone thank mwu\n<\/ul>\n<li> patch to make breakpad work with new dlopen waiting for review from mwu\n<ul>\n<li> expect to land today\n<\/ul>\n<li> file picker for chrome landed yesterday, content support landed today\n<ul>\n<li> needs testing\n<\/ul>\n<li> need to figure out l10n for java files\n<li> added lots or polish to updater and notifications, pretty good experience now\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Android build bustage post mortem, by DougT\n<ul>\n<li> Asked to push Tim&#8217;s patch\n<li> Applied it, and corrected small conflict\n<li> Pushed to try.\n<li> Android didn&#8217;t compile.\n<li> Got a new patch from Tim.\n<li> Pushed to try\n<li> For some reason, try didn&#8217;t build Android this time.\n<li> Locally imported patch to my android builder\n<li> Built cleanly.\n<li> Pushed to M-C, and left\n<li> Failure Points:\n<ul>\n<li> My mozconfig was for the emulator (disabled thumb2)\n<li> Shouldn&#8217;t have just left.\n<ul>\n<li> High confidence on things would &#8220;just work&#8221;\n<\/ul>\n<li> Try restricted builds for no good reason.\n<\/ul>\n<li> I shaved.\n<li> (blassey) I did too. Not sure why you didn&#8217;t get a thumb2 build on try\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Electrolysis <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> MacOS X &#8211; Content not rendering without user creating UI events\n<ul>\n<li> Beta 2 Blocker\n<li> Looks like mac isnt processing ipc messages it needs to\n<\/ul>\n<li> Priority of child process (Alon can update everyone)\n<li> Discussion in bug on dynamic verses constant child priority\n<ul>\n<li> Constant priority makes the child slower (at least 3% on page load for one test).\n<li> Dynamic priority is hard.\n<li> I am bias.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> General Platform <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Video <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Camera <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Plugins <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Content Sink pref change loaded (Bug 604762)\n<ul>\n<li> Basically we make the child process less &#8220;responsive&#8221; and make it do more work before processing events\n<li> Saw page load perf bump by 3%\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Networking <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Graphics <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Startup <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Content <\/span><\/h3>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release Engineering <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> 3 tegras running 3 talos suites on m-c and tracemonkey only\n<ul>\n<li> adding more suites over time\n<li> scrounging up more tegras\n<li> bugfixing as well &#8212; please let us know if something&#8217;s not working right\n<li> currently tracking why the Talos results drop off of TBPL after test run is complete &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=605856\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 605856<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> android multilocale &#8212; untested poc manual build w\/out packaged manifests\n<li> 4.0b2 will be lsblakk\n<ul>\n<li> aki pto Nov 20-Dec4; trying to hand over process before then\n<li> bugfixing &amp; documenting\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> New Bugs over the week: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/9gebqX\" rel=\"nofollow\">filed<\/a>\n<li> Need a triage of bugs <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/coqOdx\" rel=\"nofollow\">nominated over the past week<\/a>\n<li> Going through theme work\n<li> Top issues from today:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=605840\" rel=\"nofollow\">Sync is crashing Fennec on the Vibrant<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=605845\" rel=\"nofollow\">Unable to open the file picker on Android<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=605801\" rel=\"nofollow\">No restart notification when installing extensions from webpages<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Seeing <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/search\/?q=&amp;product=mobile&amp;version=&amp;date_start=&amp;date_end=\" rel=\"nofollow\">some good feedback coming in from Android nightly and Maemo beta users<\/a>\n<li> Results from <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/Waverley#Results\" rel=\"nofollow\">nightly Smoketest runs<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Other <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> DougT spent 2-3 days fixing talos.\n<ul>\n<li> The Fennec CLH was registered using a prefix that loaded before talos CLHs.\n<li> Alot of voodoo trying to get the right options, right config file, right files on disk.\n<li> TPan doesn&#8217;t work on desktop\n<li> Tp4 doesn&#8217;t produce the correct starting output on desktop\n<li> Not all bad news, Ts does work on desktop\n<li> I am pretty sure that these failures would also fail on the n900 given their subsystems (linux, apache) are basically the same.\n<li> What I want is a way to locally test performance using the tools we currently have.\n<li> (aki has considered rewriting talos in mozharness, which would hopefully make it easier to config, but this is not a small project and would require buy-in, also probably not as high priority as 4.0b2 releng blockers)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/20-Oct-2010\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/20-Oct-2010<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mobile\/Notes\/20-Oct-2010 From MozillaWiki &lt; 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