{"id":413,"date":"2010-10-26T23:00:04","date_gmt":"2010-10-27T03:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/413"},"modified":"2010-10-26T23:00:04","modified_gmt":"2010-10-27T03:00:04","slug":"mozilla-platform-meeting-minutes-2010-10-26","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/413","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2010-10-26"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Platform\/2010-10-26<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">Platform<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2010-10-19\" title=\"Platform\/2010-10-19\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2010-11-02&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Platform\/2010-11-02 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Notices \/ Schedule <\/span><\/h1>\n<p><b>Firefox 4 Beta 7<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> as per the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.planning\/browse_thread\/thread\/f0e289f5cb67a284#\" rel=\"nofollow\">dev planning thread<\/a>, could be shipped either off the GECKO20b7pre_20101006_RELBRANCH or default tags of mozilla-central. We&#8217;ll discuss that in today&#8217;s exciting <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2010-10-26#Roundtable\">roundtable<\/a>.\n<li> Of the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2:7\" rel=\"nofollow\">remaining blockers<\/a>:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=595243\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 595243<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=595743\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 595743<\/a> are getting JSD\/Firebug working with compartments; waiting for more complete patch from Sayrer\/Gal?\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=606585\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 606585<\/a> was just added recently, needs a patch\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=604641\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 604641<\/a> looks like it will be resolved with additional merges from TraceMonkey in order to get the JetPack SDK working with compartments <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=604523\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 604523<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=604523\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 604523<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=604756\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 604756<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=604996\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 604996<\/a> fix high frequency stability issues with compartments; both have patches which are being evaluated\/tested\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=598600\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 598600<\/a> is ready but doesn&#8217;t apply to the relbranch\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=606726\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 606726<\/a> is tracking API changes which need to land on the relbranch\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=603300\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 603300<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=596087\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 596087<\/a> just need to land\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Firefox 3.6.11 and 3.5.14<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Released last Tuesday\n<li> No known issues that would cause a chemspill \/ rebuild\n<li> Will not be doing another advertised MU (see below)\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Firefox 3.6.12 and 3.5.15<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Will likely be a quick turnaround update for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=607222\" rel=\"nofollow\">this bug<\/a>\n<li> Will do an advertised update for 3.0\/3.5 users a week after release\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Firefox 3.6.13 and 3.5.16<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Taking nominations and approving\n<li> Likely released early December\n<li> Will be talking with teams and individuals to make sure the workload between branches and FF4.0 is manageable\n<li> Will send a draft schedule this week\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Blocker Report <\/span><\/h1>\n<p>A handy list of <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/4\/Triage\" title=\"Firefox\/4\/Triage\">Firefox 4 triage queries<\/a> is available. You can also see a <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blocker-reports.brasstacks.mozilla.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">graph of our blocker rates<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Beta 7: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Abeta7\" rel=\"nofollow\">11 blockers<\/a>\n<li> Beta: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Abeta\" rel=\"nofollow\">470 blockers<\/a>\n<li> Final: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Afinal\" rel=\"nofollow\">399 blockers<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> TOTAL: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Afinal,beta\" rel=\"nofollow\">869 blockers<\/a>\n<li> nominations: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=OPEN%20blocking2.0%3A%22%3F%22\" rel=\"nofollow\">207 nominations<\/a>\n<li> ready to land: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0:beta,final%20sw:land,checkin\" rel=\"nofollow\">10 blockers ready<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Firefox 3.6.13<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking1.9.2:.14%2B%20-status1.9.2:.14-fixed\" rel=\"nofollow\">22 open blockers<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Firefox 3.5.16<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking1.9.1:.16%2B%20-status1.9.1:.16-fixed\" rel=\"nofollow\">18 blockers<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Development <\/span><\/h1>\n<p>(from our <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Goals\/2010Q4\" title=\"Firefox\/Goals\/2010Q4\">goals<\/a>):\n<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Finish Firefox 4\n<ul>\n<li> 0 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Abeta,final%20prod:toolkit,firefox\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox\/Toolkit blockers<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: blue;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[CARRY OVER]<\/span> API-Complete Jetpack\n<ul>\n<li> Joint with Jetpack team\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Stand up basic Firefox with Electrolysis\n<ul>\n<li> Joint with Platform\n<li> UI may not be functional, should launch and open a web page.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Developer Tools <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Finish Firefox 4 developer tools\n<ul>\n<li> 0 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Abeta,final%20prod:firefox%20comp:developer\" rel=\"nofollow\">blocking developer tools bugs<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Ensure that Firefox 4 ships with a compatible version of Firebug\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Publish a roadmap for integrated developer tools in Firefox, including console, inspection, and js debugging\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Develop long term plan for Skywriter maintenance\/support\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Platform <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Goals: Real list found <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2010-Q4-Goals\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>.  Quick overview:\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[ON TRACK]<\/span> Finish Firefox 4 blockers.\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[ON TRACK]<\/span> Support Firefox Team to stand up a browser on Electrolysis.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> GFX <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Workin&#8217; on blockers.\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Not much change since last week\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> JS <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> In not-JS-but-almost-JS news, work proceeds on exposing DOM properties as proper ES5 accessor properties, with function-valued getter\/setter functions (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=560072\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 560072<\/a>); has most-of-the-way semi-hackish patch, but not yet clear whether the more principled fix is preferable\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Tree Management <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Android\n<ul>\n<li> Some android tests now live <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/oduinn.com\/blog\/2010\/10\/24\/breakthrough-on-android-automation\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/oduinn.com\/blog\/2010\/10\/24\/breakthrough-on-android-automation\/<\/a>\n<li> more testing boards on order\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Need a 3 hour downtime to update talos and install MozillaDongle Mark II\/III &#8482; on the snow leopard machines.\n<ul>\n<li> today? this week? next week? after &#8220;go to build&#8221; of which release?\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> [beltzner] Should we ship beta 7 off mozilla-central default or the b7 relbranch created on October 6th?\n<ul>\n<li> since October 6th, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?field0-3-0=cf_blocking_20&amp;type0-1-0=changedafter&amp;field0-1-0=resolution&amp;field0-0-0=cf_blocking_20&amp;query_based_on=after%20oct%2031%20blockers&amp;value0-3-0=7&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;value0-2-0=FIXED&amp;value0-1-0=2010-10-03&amp;type0-3-0=notsubstring&amp;field0-2-0=resolution&amp;type0-0-0=substring&amp;value0-0-0=%2B&amp;type0-2-0=substring&amp;product=Core&amp;product=Firefox&amp;known_name=after%20oct%2031%20blockers\" rel=\"nofollow\">over 300 blockers<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?field0-3-0=cf_blocking_20&amp;type0-1-0=changedafter&amp;field0-1-0=resolution&amp;field0-0-0=cf_blocking_20&amp;query_based_on=after%20oct%2031%20blockers&amp;value0-3-0=7&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;value0-2-0=FIXED&amp;value0-1-0=2010-10-03&amp;type0-3-0=notsubstring&amp;field0-2-0=resolution&amp;type0-0-0=notsubstring&amp;value0-0-0=%2B&amp;type0-2-0=substring&amp;product=Core&amp;product=Firefox&amp;known_name=after%20oct%2031%20blockers\" rel=\"nofollow\">over 500 non-blockers<\/a> have landed on mozilla-central\n<li> we have not had nightly testing on the b7 relbranch, and the compartments work has never been on that branch\n<li> prior to the compartments landing, QA had declared the b7 relbranch content to be stable\n<ul>\n<li> <b>decision was to ship beta7 off mozilla-central<\/b>\n<li> tree will be locked to beta 7 blockers immediately (and fennec b2 blockers)\n<li> teams to re-triage beta8 blocker list to identify bugs that need to block beta7 (new regressions since the branch point)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> [smooney] A few new crashes in the past week we would like to have triaged.\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/bXheH3\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/bit.ly\/bXheH3<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=604734\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=604734<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=599341\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=599341<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2010-10-26\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2010-10-26<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Platform\/2010-10-26 From MozillaWiki &lt; Platform \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Notices \/ Schedule Firefox 4 Beta 7 as per the dev planning thread, could be shipped either off the GECKO20b7pre_20101006_RELBRANCH or default tags of mozilla-central. 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