{"id":421,"date":"2010-11-03T00:00:10","date_gmt":"2010-11-03T04:00:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/421"},"modified":"2010-11-03T00:00:10","modified_gmt":"2010-11-03T04:00:10","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2010-11-02","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/421","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-02"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-02<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-10-26\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-10-26\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-09\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-09\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<table>\n<caption> <b>Current Release Schedules<\/b><br \/>\n<\/caption>\n<tr>\n<th width=\"33%\"> Thunderbird 3.2 <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.1.5 <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.0.9<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> To Be Announced<\/p>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze:\n<li> L10n freeze:\n<li> Builds start:\n<li> QA with builds start:\n<li> Beta period starts:\n<li> Final release: Early December\n<\/ul>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze:\n<li> L10n freeze:\n<li> Builds start:\n<li> QA with builds start:\n<li> Beta period starts:\n<li> Final release: Early December\n<\/ul>\n<\/table>\n<p>\n<b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2010&amp;month=11&amp;day=02&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, November 2, 2010 16:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>dmose<\/b>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida for schedule changes\/additions.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Thanks to our <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/en\/Glossary#FotT\" rel=\"nofollow\">Friends of the Tree<\/a>  When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"mailto:rebron@mozillamessaging.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">rebron@mozillamessaging.com<\/a> so that he can send them a shirt!\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Trending 79% on Funnel Cake 2 users, maybe due to upgrade to 3.1.6.\n<li> Next Funnel Cake 3 to be on 3.1.6, not yet scheduled.\n<li> ISPDB &#8211; top domain misses  ocn.ad.jp, psmtp.com, interia.pl, aon.at, cox.net, netease.com, telenet-ops.be, one.com, shaw.ca, telia.com\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>Account Provisioner:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Minor delays due to legal issues &amp; sickness\n<\/ul>\n<p>Pluggable Mail Stores:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Most tests pass, bienvenu&#8217;s been focussed on branch work this past week\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Up next: Thunderbird Conversations (formerly Gmail Conversation View). Currently ironing things out with clarkbw and andychung before cutting a 2.0 release. [protz]\n<li> Updates for Mailing List Manager, Contacts on deck.\n<li> Sync Add-on further out.\n<li> On schedule to release an add-on a week for the next month or so\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 3.2 <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Waiting for account provisioning discussions to progress and FF 4 status before making decision on if\/when we&#8217;ll do a 3.2 branch release.\n<ul>\n<li> If we do include account provisioning in a release before one from trunk, then 3.2 will likely be a branch from comm-1.9.2.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Trunk Development <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Starting 3.3 alpha cycle to get test trunk builds and major feature work\n<li> Looking at building with omnijar (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=601573\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 601573<\/a>) and places (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=608981\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 608981<\/a>\n<li> Working on migrating Mac builds from ppc\/32 to 32\/64 bit universal.\n<ul>\n<li> Two more patches to go (one to land) before we can consider enabling.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Help on fixing up trunk welcome, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;field0-0-0=status_whiteboard&amp;type0-0-1=equals&amp;value0-0-1=blocking-thunderbird-next%2B&amp;type0-0-0=substring&amp;field0-0-1=flagtypes.name&amp;value0-0-0=%5Btbtrunkneeds%5D&amp;resolution=---\" rel=\"nofollow\">this list of higher priority bugs<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Stability &amp; Security Releases <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/mzl.la\/tb_316\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firedrill releases of 3.1.6 and 3.0.10<\/a>.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/about\/press\/archive\/2010-10-19-01\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.0.x End-of-Life announcement published<\/a>.\n<li> Starting flagging bugs to be included in the next release, please see the bug lists.\n<li> Bug Lists: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.0\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.0<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major updates to 3.1 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Now have over 70% of ADUs on 3.1.x.\n<li> Working on getting Thunderbird 2 updates fully unthrottled (they had been on a 1 in 4 pings would get an offer).\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> chemspill release\n<li> Lagging in preparing dupme workshop\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> PR update: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.techradar.com\/news\/software\/applications\/windows-7-email-5-best-free-clients-903699\" rel=\"nofollow\">Windows 7 email: 5 best free clients<\/a>, &#8220;stands out from the crowd right away&#8221;; several security update articles <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theinquirer.net\/inquirer\/news\/1811710\/firefox-thunderbird-security-updates\" rel=\"nofollow\">1<\/a> &#8220;superfast fix&#8221;, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-13880_3-20021127-68.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">nice Dennis O&#8217;Reilly tips article<\/a>, Hotmail touting new features to add other email accounts to the interface\n<li> TB ADUs: 6.3MM users, 600k users on Tb 2.0.0.24; averaging +100k downloads\n<li> Working through new web site design options. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.marketing\/browse_thread\/thread\/bff1c7e599ab141e#\" rel=\"nofollow\">Some early discussion on design direction via mozilla.com.<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Infrastructure Update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Returned from vacation, processing e-mail slowly.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Build \/ Release Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Investigating what it would take to do release builds across more than one branch in parallel\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Planning a release engineering meeting to talk about build signing automation and security, how to make build automation more testable, and how to improve build turnaround time and robustness.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> fixed a couple minor website bugs(<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=607481\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 607481<\/a>)\n<li> moving ispdb to wsgi so it can co-exist with the account provisioning middleware\n<li> Added tests and did some more Account Provisioning work\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/en.flossmanuals.net\/bin\/view\/Thunderbird\/_all?skin=basic\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thunderbird manual<\/a> from the sprint (I believe the build link is temporary &#8211; check the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/en.flossmanuals.net\/bin\/view\/Thunderbird\/WebHome\" rel=\"nofollow\">project page<\/a> for updates)\n<ul>\n<li> lots of content generated, bigger than expected!\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" rel=\"nofollow\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<ol>\n<li> 652 new support topics up 21% (540 last week; this week is normal)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/tb-support-crew\" rel=\"nofollow\">tb-support-crew mailing list<\/a> for support contributors has been launched! If you support Thunderbird or write documentation to help support Thunderbird, please <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/tb-support-crew\" rel=\"nofollow\">subscribe<\/a> &#8211; Thanks to Eric Moore of MozillaZine and Wayne Mery for helping define this mailing list and its charter\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/kb\/Localization+Dashboard\" rel=\"nofollow\">SuMoMo Localization Dashboard<\/a> announced on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.l10n.web\/browse_thread\/thread\/eb4213ac62e61dd4\" rel=\"nofollow\">l10n newsgroup<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1 Support Issues<\/a>\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-02\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-02\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Standard8 has done some TryServer tweaks so it&#8217;s now possible for pushing to work, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/tb-planning\/browse_frm\/thread\/ad78c50fb1d603f3#\" rel=\"nofollow\">tb-planning<\/a> for more info.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Lots!\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-02\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-02<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-02 From MozillaWiki &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings last meeting | index | next meeting \u00bb Current Release Schedules Thunderbird 3.2 Thunderbird 3.1.5 Thunderbird 3.0.9 To Be Announced Code freeze: L10n freeze: Builds start: QA with builds start: Beta period starts: Final release: Early December Code freeze: L10n freeze: Builds start: QA with builds start: Beta [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[40],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/421"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=421"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/421\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=421"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=421"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=421"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}