{"id":431,"date":"2010-11-17T00:00:12","date_gmt":"2010-11-17T04:00:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/431"},"modified":"2010-11-17T00:00:12","modified_gmt":"2010-11-17T04:00:12","slug":"mozilla-platform-meeting-minutes-2010-11-16","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/431","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-16"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Platform\/2010-11-16<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">Platform<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2010-11-09\" title=\"Platform\/2010-11-09\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\" title=\"Platform\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Platform\/2010-11-23&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Platform\/2010-11-23 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Notices \/ Schedule <\/span><\/h1>\n<p><b>Firefox 4.0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Firefox 3.6.13 and 3.5.16<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze is <b>this Thursday (2010-11-18)<\/b> @ 11:59 pm PST\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Blocker Report <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Discussion:  Firefox 4.0 beta 8 freeze.\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0:beta8\" rel=\"nofollow\">Beta 8 open blocker query<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0:beta9\" rel=\"nofollow\">Beta 9 open blocker query<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<pre style=\"font-size: 80%\">Blocker report for Firefox 4.0.beta8 (as of 2010-11-16 10:34:59.789849-08:00)\n\nOverview\n----------------------------------------------\n\n4.0.beta8\n      blocking: 161\n         fixed: 113\n          open:  48\n\n\nOpen Blocker Assignees\n----------------------------------------------\n\n                        Andreas Gal\u00a0:gal:   5 +++++\n                             Makoto Kato:   5 +++++\n    Nobody; OK to take it and work on it:   4 ++++\n               David Anderson [:dvander]:   3 +++\n                  Chris Leary [:cdleary]:   2 ++\n                  Blake Kaplan (:mrbkap):   2 ++\n                Jonas Sicking (:sicking):   2 ++\n         Benjamin Smedberg  [:bsmedberg]:   2 ++\n                      Kyle Huey [:khuey]:   1 +\n                        Jim Blandy\u00a0:jimb:   1 +\n           Ted Mielczarek [:ted,\u00a0:luser]:   1 +\n                     Boris Zbarsky (:bz):   1 +\n                        Myk Melez [:myk]:   1 +\n      Jeff Walden (remove +bmo to email):   1 +\n                   Jason Duell (:jduell):   1 +\n                  Ehsan Akhgari [:ehsan]:   1 +\n                             Mike Connor:   1 +\n                             Raymond Lee:   1 +\n                           Markus Stange:   1 +\n                         Jason Orendorff:   1 +\n                     Luke Wagner [:luke]:   1 +\n                           Gregor Wagner:   1 +\n                 Wesley Johnston (:wesj):   1 +\n                      ben turner [:bent]:   1 +\n                          Bill McCloskey:   1 +\n   Philipp von Weitershausen [:philikon]:   1 +\n                          David Mandelin:   1 +\n                    Marco Bonardo [:mak]:   1 +\n               Mounir Lamouri (:volkmar):   1 +\n                                    None:   1 +\n                            Igor Bukanov:   1 +\n\n\nBug Activity\n----------------------------------------------\n\n    Bug 605271: Last modified 17 days ago (assigned to Kyle Huey [:khuey])\n    Bug 608800: Last modified 14 days ago (assigned to Andreas Gal\u00a0:gal)\n    Bug 597811: Last modified 14 days ago (assigned to Chris Leary [:cdleary])\n    Bug 591126: Last modified 13 days ago (assigned to Mike Connor)\n    Bug 606138: Last modified 13 days ago (assigned to Luke Wagner [:luke])\n    Bug 598650: Last modified 10 days ago (assigned to Gregor Wagner)\n    Bug 608669: Last modified  8 days ago (assigned to Jonas Sicking (:sicking))\n    Bug 608156: Last modified  8 days ago (assigned to Philipp von Weitershausen [:philikon])\n    Bug 606141: Last modified  8 days ago (assigned to Boris Zbarsky (:bz))\n    Bug 609970: Last modified  7 days ago (assigned to David Anderson [:dvander])\n    Bug 604641: Last modified  7 days ago (assigned to Myk Melez [:myk])\n    Bug 609030: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Jonas Sicking (:sicking))\n    Bug 599610: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Igor Bukanov)\n    Bug 553778: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to Jim Blandy\u00a0:jimb)\n    Bug 606709: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to Andreas Gal\u00a0:gal)\n    Bug 606268: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to Nobody; OK to take it and work on it)\n    Bug 607799: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to Andreas Gal\u00a0:gal)\n    Bug 608171: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to Jason Orendorff)\n    Bug 610498: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to David Anderson [:dvander])\n    Bug 607271: Last modified  4 days ago (assigned to Nobody; OK to take it and work on it)\n    Bug 595530: Last modified  4 days ago (assigned to Marco Bonardo [:mak])\n    Bug 584603: Last modified  4 days ago (assigned to David Mandelin)\n    Bug 607539: Last modified  4 days ago (assigned to Bill McCloskey)\n    Bug 580096: Last modified  4 days ago (assigned to ben turner [:bent])\n    Bug 599475: Last modified  3 days ago (assigned to Ted Mielczarek [:ted,\u00a0:luser])\n    Bug 608872: Last modified  3 days ago (assigned to Blake Kaplan (:mrbkap))\n    Bug 606489: Last modified  3 days ago (assigned to Nobody; OK to take it and work on it)\n    Bug 611982: Last modified  2 days ago (assigned to Andreas Gal\u00a0:gal)\n    Bug 600261: Last modified  2 days ago (assigned to Nobody; OK to take it and work on it)\n    Bug 600622: Last modified  1 days ago (assigned to None)\n    Bug 608651: Last modified  1 days ago (assigned to Mounir Lamouri (:volkmar))\n<\/pre>\n<ul>\n<li> Firefox Branches\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking1.9.2:.13%2B%20-status1.9.2:.13-fixed\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.6.13 open blocker query<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking1.9.1:.16%2B%20-status1.9.1:.16-fixed\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.5.16 open blocker query<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<pre style=\"font-size: 80%\">Blocker report for Firefox 3.5.16 and 3.6.13 (as of 2010-11-16 10:47:21.682113-08:00)\n\nOverview\n----------------------------------------------\n\n3.5.16\n      blocking:  32\n         fixed:   8\n          open:  24\n3.6.13\n      blocking:  37\n         fixed:  10\n          open:  27\n\n\nOpen Blocker Assignees\n----------------------------------------------\n\n                   Mats Palmgren [:mats]:   7 +++++++\n                          Steven Michaud:   4 ++++\n                  Blake Kaplan (:mrbkap):   3 +++\n                            Robert Sayre:   3 +++\n                            Igor Bukanov:   3 +++\n          Josh Aas (Mozilla Corporation):   2 ++\n Johnny Stenback (:jst, jst@mozilla.com):   1 +\n                                  Ms2ger:   1 +\n         Benjamin Smedberg  [:bsmedberg]:   1 +\n                         Jason Orendorff:   1 +\n              Nicholas Nethercote [:njn]:   1 +\n                           Jonathan Watt:   1 +\n\n\nBug Activity\n----------------------------------------------\n\n    Bug 541255: Last modified 47 days ago (assigned to Jason Orendorff)\n    Bug 554449: Last modified 47 days ago (assigned to Blake Kaplan (:mrbkap))\n    Bug 572130: Last modified 47 days ago (assigned to Blake Kaplan (:mrbkap))\n    Bug 569306: Last modified 47 days ago (assigned to Robert Sayre)\n    Bug 600362: Last modified 45 days ago (assigned to Josh Aas (Mozilla Corporation))\n    Bug 569162: Last modified 41 days ago (assigned to Igor Bukanov)\n    Bug 590553: Last modified 36 days ago (assigned to Robert Sayre)\n    Bug 597654: Last modified 32 days ago (assigned to Igor Bukanov)\n    Bug 546573: Last modified 29 days ago (assigned to Blake Kaplan (:mrbkap))\n    Bug 411835: Last modified 29 days ago (assigned to Mats Palmgren [:mats])\n    Bug 449129: Last modified 29 days ago (assigned to Benjamin Smedberg  [:bsmedberg])\n    Bug 600098: Last modified 27 days ago (assigned to Josh Aas (Mozilla Corporation))\n    Bug 468563: Last modified  8 days ago (assigned to Mats Palmgren [:mats])\n    Bug 604807: Last modified  7 days ago (assigned to Ms2ger)\n    Bug 601699: Last modified  7 days ago (assigned to Jonathan Watt)\n    Bug 599468: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Nicholas Nethercote [:njn])\n    Bug 599610: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Igor Bukanov)\n    Bug 599166: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Robert Sayre)\n    Bug 605340: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Mats Palmgren [:mats])\n    Bug 604843: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Mats Palmgren [:mats])\n    Bug 603510: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Mats Palmgren [:mats])\n    Bug 603490: Last modified  6 days ago (assigned to Mats Palmgren [:mats])\n    Bug 571995: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to Mats Palmgren [:mats])\n    Bug 606737: Last modified  5 days ago (assigned to Steven Michaud)\n    Bug 594547: Last modified  4 days ago (assigned to Johnny Stenback (:jst, jst@mozilla.com))\n<\/pre>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox Development <\/span><\/h1>\n<p>(from our <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Goals\/2010Q4\" title=\"Firefox\/Goals\/2010Q4\">goals<\/a>):\n<\/p>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Firefox <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Finish Firefox 4\n<ul>\n<li> 0 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Abeta,final%20prod:toolkit,firefox\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox\/Toolkit blockers<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: blue;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[CARRY OVER]<\/span> API-Complete Jetpack\n<ul>\n<li> Joint with Jetpack team\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Stand up basic Firefox with Electrolysis\n<ul>\n<li> Joint with Platform\n<li> UI may not be functional, should launch and open a web page.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Developer Tools <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Finish Firefox 4 developer tools\n<ul>\n<li> 0 <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Abeta,final%20prod:firefox%20comp:developer\" rel=\"nofollow\">blocking developer tools bugs<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Ensure that Firefox 4 ships with a compatible version of Firebug\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Publish a roadmap for integrated developer tools in Firefox, including console, inspection, and js debugging\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[NEW]<\/span> Develop long term plan for Skywriter maintenance\/support\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Platform <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Goals: Real list found <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2010-Q4-Goals\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>.  Quick overview:\n<ul>\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[ON TRACK]<\/span> Finish Firefox 4 blockers.\n<li> <span style=\"color: grey;font-size: 80%;font-weight: bold\">[ON TRACK]<\/span> Support Firefox Team to stand up a browser on Electrolysis.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> GFX <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Post-beta 7 builds are *very* crashy.\n<ul>\n<li> A lot of this is probably due to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=611389\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 611389<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=611595\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 611595<\/a>, the latter of which does not yet have a patch.\n<li> These are coming to the forefront most likely due to the asynchronous layer-based plugin drawing changes that Benjamin Smedberg landed post-b7.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Layout <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> 1 beta8 blocker (editor, new regression)\n<li> Breakdown of all blockers:\n<ul>\n<li> 5 Video\/Audio\n<li> 18 Widget\n<li> 10 SVG\n<li> 4 Editor\n<li> 82 other\n<\/ul>\n<li> Touchpad\/trackpoint driver issues:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=593372\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 593372<\/a> Elantech\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=594977\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 594977<\/a> Synaptic\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=605357\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 605357<\/a> ALPS\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> JS <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> a few small ES5 bugs fixed, many more remain, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=514568\" rel=\"nofollow\">strict mode eval<\/a> is still the last big-ticket item\n<li> various tracing\/methodjit profiling improvements to ensure we use the tracer when it&#8217;s a speedup, still more work to do\n<li> starting to focus on blocker count now, overall numbers dropping\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Tree Management <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> Any objections to 3h releng downtime Wednesday morning from 6am-9am PST?\n<\/ul>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable <\/span><\/h1>\n<p>Crash Summary\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Beta7\n<ul>\n<li>Yesterday over 600K users with a crash ratio of 3.25%\n<li>Flash crash at #3 and several hangs in the top 10. Similar number of instances of hangs and plugin related crashes to beta6.\n<li>Many reports of crashes on twitter, particularly around the inability to submit oop crashes.\n<li>We reviewed the top 20 crashes, some new nominations for 2.0.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>Trunk\n<ul>\n<li>Explosive crash situation with drivers which started on the 11th. All problems are logged but no luck reproducing internally.\n<li>Jumped from 2700 crashes\/day to over 9300 with the same number of users.\n<li>Issues in progress &#8211; some patches checked in already.\n<li>Need to get the crash numbers down for beta8.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2010-11-16\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform\/2010-11-16<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Platform\/2010-11-16 From MozillaWiki &lt; Platform \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Notices \/ Schedule Firefox 4.0 Firefox 3.6.13 and 3.5.16 Code freeze is this Thursday (2010-11-18) @ 11:59 pm PST Blocker Report Discussion: Firefox 4.0 beta 8 freeze. 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