{"id":432,"date":"2010-11-17T00:00:21","date_gmt":"2010-11-17T04:00:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/432"},"modified":"2010-11-17T00:00:21","modified_gmt":"2010-11-17T04:00:21","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2010-11-16","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/432","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-16"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-16<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-09\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-09\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-23\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-23\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<table>\n<caption> <b>Current Release Schedules<\/b><br \/>\n<\/caption>\n<tr>\n<th width=\"50%\"> Thunderbird 3.3 Alpha 1 <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.1.7 &amp; 3.0.11<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> To Be Announced<\/p>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze: 23rd Nov 23:59\n<li> L10n freeze: 23rd Nov 23:59\n<li> Builds start: 24th Nov\n<li> QA with builds start: 29th Nov\n<li> Beta period starts: 30th Nov\n<li> Final release: 9th Dec\n<\/ul>\n<\/table>\n<p>\n<b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2010&amp;month=11&amp;day=09&amp;hour=17&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, November 9, 2010 17:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>clarkbw<\/b>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida for schedule changes\/additions.\n<li> Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Thanks to our <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/en\/Glossary#FotT\" rel=\"nofollow\">Friends of the Tree<\/a>  When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"mailto:rebron@mozillamessaging.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">rebron@mozillamessaging.com<\/a> so that he can send them a shirt!\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Funnelcake 3, still crunching numbers have a weeks worth of data now.  We have about 1k less than in funnelcake 2 in this sample w\/ ~4200 users.\n<li> ISPDB: 39% conversion rate; top 10 domain misses: ocn.ad.jp, psmtp.com, aon.at, interia.pl, telenet-ops.be, cox.net, btinternet.com, netease.com, shaw.ca, ntlworld.com\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>Account Provisioner:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> We&#8217;re still waiting on legal stuff, and are using the time to polish.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Pluggable Mail Stores:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Merged with trunk, fixed some test failures in Berkeley store, 3 left to fix\n<ul>\n<li> Test to fix not to hard up to now, but busy with other point\n<li> should be dogfoodable by 3.3\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Up next: Thunderbird Conversations (formerly Gmail Conversation View). Currently ironing things out with clarkbw and andychung before cutting a 2.0 release. [protz]\n<li> Updates for Mailing List Manager, Contacts on deck.\n<li> Sync Add-on further out.\n<li> On schedule to release an add-on a week for the next month or so\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Trunk Development <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Set up new wiki page listing our <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Active_Branches\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Active Branches\">various branches<\/a>.\n<li> New blocking and status flags set up for 3.3x. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.3\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bug tracking page<\/a> also set up.\n<li> Trunk Alphas will be code-named Miramar, based on previous discussion on tb-planning. Nightlies will adopt the name once we branch.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Mac builds <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Mac builds now swapped to 32\/64 bit universal builds, dropping the ppc architecture.\n<li> Builds seem to be fine, though updates not published at the time of writing.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/tb-planning\/browse_frm\/thread\/7e156b7c252afd17\" rel=\"nofollow\">See post on tb-planning for known issues and further information<\/a>.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Miramar Alpha 1 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Release what we have on trunk\n<ul>\n<li> Backend improvements\n<li> Add-on Manager and extension changes\n<li> Linux 64 bit and Mac 32\/64 bit builds.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.3:alpha1+%20-resolution:FIXED&amp;order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id\" rel=\"nofollow\">Current blockers<\/a>\n<li> Expecting to start release process this week.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Post Alpha 1 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Aiming for frequent alphas, specifically to pick up fixes \/ features.\n<li> Help on fixing blockers would be very useful and appreciated, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.3:needed%20-status-thunderbird3.3:fixed%20-whiteboard:non-code&amp;order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id\" rel=\"nofollow\">this list of higher priority bugs<\/a>.\n<li> blocking criteria\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li> Alpha 1 -&gt; Serious usability issues.\n<li> After -&gt; not real criteria, regression\/usability issues as usual.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 3.2 <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Decision on if\/when we&#8217;ll do 3.2 on hold until we progress account provisioning further.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Stability &amp; Security Releases <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> mozilla-1.9.2\/1.9.1 starts code freeze on Thursday.\n<li> Bug Lists: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.0\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.0<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major updates to 3.1 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Unthrotle 3.1.0 -&gt; 3.1.6\n<li> 2.x user down to 17%\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Preparing testing round for Alpha1\n<ul>\n<li> We need more <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/perso.hirlimann.net\/~ludo\/blog\/archives\/2010\/11\/33a1-approching-looking-for-some-help-fr.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">testers<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> PR Update: Lots of positive reviews <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/download.cnet.com\/8301-2007_4-20022896-12.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">1<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.practicalecommerce.com\/articles\/2381-New-Firefox-Extension-Social-Marketing-While-You-Browse\" rel=\"nofollow\">2<\/a> for F1 by Mozilla Labs.  Articles boosted by Firefox 4 Beta 7 news on the same day.\n<ul>\n<li> Facebook Messaging announced. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.practicalecommerce.com\/articles\/2381-New-Firefox-Extension-Social-Marketing-While-You-Browse\" rel=\"nofollow\">WSJ<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/voices.washingtonpost.com\/blog-post\/2010\/11\/facebook_mail_path_bnter_socia.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Washington Post<\/a>.  Lots of coverage, mixed reception.\n<li> AOL Phoenix Project also <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/corp.aol.com\/2010\/11\/14\/aol-disrupts-the-inbox-with-project-phoenix-by-aol-mail\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">announced<\/a>, an updated version of their AOL Mail.\n<\/ul>\n<li> ADUs: 6.4MM total ADUs current high; 2.x is 18% of total ADUs now, downloads steady at above 90k a day average\n<li> Starting planning for 2011 conferences (FOSDEM, etc), marketing events participation.  Send me info if you have suggestions on where we should be.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Infrastructure Update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Mac OS X 10.6 32\/64 Universal builds on trunk nightly\n<li> Packaged Mozmill\/XPCShell tests on trunk (no more check builders)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Build \/ Release Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> added comm-central trunk release builders\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> working on provider support for broker(account provisioning API)\n<ul>\n<li> more updates to free email providers page on <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/trunk.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/thunderbird\/features\/email_providers.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/trunk.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/thunderbird\/features\/email_providers.html<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Sumomo clean-up: complete and make draft articles live; new articles; combine duplicates; updates\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/Quick+Filter+Toolbar\" rel=\"nofollow\">Quick Filter KB<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/Switching+to+Thunderbird+from+Windows+or+Web-Based+Email+Applications\" rel=\"nofollow\">Switching to Thunderbird<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/Installing+Thunderbird+on+Mac\" rel=\"nofollow\">Installing TB on the Mac<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/Sending+and+Receiving+Emails\" rel=\"nofollow\">Sending and Receiving Messages<\/a>\n<li> general work around Windows and updating articles\n<\/ul>\n<p>This week:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> looking at contribution sources \/ metrics, MDC and Sumomo\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/sumo\/2010\/11\/03\/qa-day-for-the-new-sumo-kb-software\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Kitsune QA<\/a> (the new support \/ KB platform)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" rel=\"nofollow\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>(If you support Thunderbird or write documentation to help support Thunderbird, please <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/tb-support-crew\" rel=\"nofollow\">subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list<\/a> and briefly introduce yourself to the list)\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> 449 new support topics down 21% (567 last week; this week is a bit down from normal)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.mozillamessaging.com\/roland\/2010\/11\/10\/mzmomo-collaborationmaking-tb-31-look-like-tb-2-sprint-10-15nov2010\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Make TB 3.1 look like TB 2 MozillaZine\/Mozilla Messaging Collaboration<\/a> &#8220;sprint&#8221; is technically over but could still use your edits!\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1 Support Issues<\/a>\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-16\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-16\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Dmose, standard8, bwinton, davidB ,gozer,john,Andrei<\/p>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-16\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-16<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-16 From MozillaWiki &lt; 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