{"id":443,"date":"2010-12-01T00:00:07","date_gmt":"2010-12-01T04:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/443"},"modified":"2010-12-01T00:00:07","modified_gmt":"2010-12-01T04:00:07","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2010-11-30","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/443","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2010-11-30"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-30<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-23\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-23\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-12-07\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-12-07\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<table>\n<caption> <b>Current Release Schedules<\/b><br \/>\n<\/caption>\n<tr>\n<th width=\"50%\"> Thunderbird 3.3 Alpha 2 <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.1.7 &amp; 3.0.11<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> TBD\n<\/ul>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze: 23rd Nov 23:59\n<li> L10n freeze: 23rd Nov 23:59\n<li> Builds start: 24th Nov\n<li> QA with builds start: 29th Nov\n<li> Beta period starts: 30th Nov\n<li> Final release: 9th Dec\n<\/ul>\n<\/table>\n<p>\n<b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2010&amp;month=11&amp;day=30&amp;hour=17&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, November 30, 2010 17:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>Standard8<\/b>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida or dmose for schedule changes\/additions.\n<li> Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Still crunching logs for Funnel Cake 3.\n<li> ISPDB: 47% success rate, Top missing domains: ocn.ad.jp, psmtp.com, interia.pl, aon.at, cox.net, telenet.be, one.com, charter.net, freemail.hu, netease.com\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments#Account_Provisioner\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Account Provisioner<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Dave Sifry is working on contracts\/term sheets.\n<li> Sancus is working on integrating with another provider.\n<li> Andreas is working on a new end page.\n<li> Other than that, nothing new.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Pluggable Mail Stores (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=402392\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 402392<\/a>):\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Merged with trunk, fixed some test failures in Berkeley store, 3 left to fix\n<ul>\n<li> Test to fix not to hard up to now, but busy with other point\n<li> should be dogfoodable by 3.3\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Up next: Thunderbird Conversations (formerly Gmail Conversation View). Still polishing, just a few details left, should be ready for a preview release by the end of the week. Will have the corresponding blog post on mozilla labs as well as a screencast. Currently looking for feedback, please see <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird\/browse_thread\/thread\/938dc693f3a3fddd#\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird\/browse_thread\/thread\/938dc693f3a3fddd#<\/a> [protz]\n<li> Updates for Mailing List Manager, Contacts on deck.\n<li> Sync Add-on further out.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Trunk (Miramar) Development <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Active_Branches\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Active Branches\">Active branches<\/a>.\n<li> Aiming for frequent alphas, specifically to pick up fixes \/ features.\n<li> Help on fixing blockers would be very useful and appreciated, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.3:needed%20-status-thunderbird3.3:fixed%20-whiteboard:non-code&amp;order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id\" rel=\"nofollow\">this list of higher priority bugs<\/a>.\n<li> blocking criteria\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li> Alpha 1 -&gt; Serious usability issues.\n<li> After -&gt; not real criteria, regression\/usability issues as usual.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 3.2 <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Decision on if\/when we&#8217;ll do 3.2 on hold until we progress account provisioning further.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Stability &amp; Security Releases <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> 3.1.7 and 3.0.11 out on beta channel\n<li> Bug Lists: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.0\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.0<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major updates to 3.1 <\/span><\/h5>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> This week we have a <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\/Workshops\/Duplication\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\/Workshops\/Duplication\">Dupme event workshop on Thursday<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Press Update: Miramar Alpha 1 articles <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-30685_3-20023775-264.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">1<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theinquirer.net\/inquirer\/news\/1900197\/thunderbird-alpha\" rel=\"nofollow\">2<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.h-online.com\/open\/news\/item\/Mozilla-releases-Thunderbird-3-3-Alpha-1-1141392.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">3<\/a>\n<li> Web site <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Websites\/Taskforce\/2010_11_18\" rel=\"nofollow\">task force notes 11-18-2010<\/a>, reviewing bugs for Mozilla.com new design update as they pertain to us\n<li> Got mentioned on german tv &#8220;Abenteuer Leben&#8221;\n<\/ul>\n<p>Next:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Driving more users to Miramar Alpha 1\n<li> Plan out &#8220;Get Add-ons content&#8221; for Add-ons Manager in Miramar.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Infrastructure Update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> New Hardware\u00a0: arrives today\/tomorrow\n<li> Expect new builders to be spinning up by the end of the week\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Build \/ Release Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <i>John back from vacation<\/i>\n<li> Parallel build infrastructure: worked\n<li> Thunderbird 3.0.11\/3.1.7\n<li> Nightly updates on builders\n<li> Ability to run packaged tests on release builds (<i>comm-central<\/i>)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Mostly blocked on Broker(account provisioning middleware) waiting for provider services\n<li> Will spend time on ispdb this week and other bugs that have been in queue for a while\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/en\/Thunderbird\/Autoconfiguration\" rel=\"nofollow\">Autoconfig docs on MDN<\/a>: recent updated from Ben Bucksch\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/en\/Building_a_Thunderbird_extension\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tutorial on MDN<\/a>: recent updates from daniela.waranie\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Various support articles \/ bugs fixes\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" rel=\"nofollow\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>(If you support Thunderbird or write documentation to help support Thunderbird, please <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/tb-support-crew\" rel=\"nofollow\">subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list<\/a> and briefly introduce yourself to the list)\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> 363 new support topics -19% from last week (449 last week; this week is again a bit down from normal, American pre-Thanksgiving lingering effect?)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1 Support Issues<\/a>\n<li> finally put the Get Satisfaction Metrics code into git:(<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/rtanglao\/momogs\" rel=\"nofollow\">momogs repo<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/rtanglao\/momogs\/blob\/master\/emailReport.rb\" rel=\"nofollow\">emailreport.rb<\/a> &#8211; the script that I run daily to gather daily Get Satisfaction Metrics) &#8211; <b>HELP WANTED<\/b> &#8211; love to have a real programmer fix and enhance this code\n<li> Welcome to new GS support contributor, Chris Richard!\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-30\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-30\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Still having a lot of trouble on trunk, most notably venkman no longer works\n<li> Backporting to 1.9.2 completed, will blog today or tomorrow.\n<li> Didn&#8217;t hear much from Oracle people since the sun -&gt; Oracle move , and neither from inverse.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>davida, dmose, bwinton, sancus, jhopkins, jenzed, roland, gozer, Ludo,<\/p>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-30\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-30<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-11-30 From MozillaWiki &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings last meeting | index | next meeting \u00bb Current Release Schedules Thunderbird 3.3 Alpha 2 Thunderbird 3.1.7 &amp; 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