{"id":452,"date":"2010-12-14T00:00:09","date_gmt":"2010-12-14T04:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/452"},"modified":"2010-12-14T00:00:09","modified_gmt":"2010-12-14T04:00:09","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2010-12-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/452","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2010-12-13"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-12-13<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-12-07\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-12-07\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-12-21&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-12-21 (page does not exist)\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<table>\n<caption> <b>Current Release Schedules<\/b><br \/>\n<\/caption>\n<tr>\n<th width=\"50%\"> Thunderbird 3.3 Alpha 2 <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.1.7 &amp; 3.0.11<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Release ETA: January\n<\/ul>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze: 23rd Nov 23:59\n<li> L10n freeze: 23rd Nov 23:59\n<li> Builds start: 24th Nov\n<li> QA with builds start: 29th Nov\n<li> Beta period starts: 30th Nov\n<li> Final release: 9th Dec\n<\/ul>\n<\/table>\n<p>\n<b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2010&amp;month=12&amp;day=14&amp;hour=17&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, December 14, 2010 17:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>gozer<\/b>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida or dmose for schedule changes\/additions.\n<li> Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments#Account_Provisioner\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Account Provisioner<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>Pluggable Mail Stores (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=402392\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 402392<\/a>):\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Conversations <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/mozillalabs.com\/messaging\/2010\/12\/07\/announcing-thunderbird-conversations\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thunderbird Conversations<\/a> released. Thanks to everyone for relaying the news. This has been on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/lifehacker.com\/5708180\/thunderbird-conversations-brings-true-gmail+like-conversation-views-to-thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Lifehacker<\/a>, Reddit, GHacks, and various other websites. Lots of retweets.\n<li> A few comments on Twitter and the blog post. Went from 92 downloads\/day to 1500. <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/statistics\/addon\/54035\" rel=\"nofollow\">Statistics<\/a> were initially pretty good, except there hasn&#8217;t been a significant increase in the number of users as I expected. Low retention rate, I suspect people are afraid of Trunk.\n<li> Lots of bugs reported. Still <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/protz\/GMail-Conversation-View\/issues\" rel=\"nofollow\">a lot of open bugs<\/a>. Managed to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/jonathan.xulforum.org\/files\/gcv-nightlies\/Changelog_master\" rel=\"nofollow\">kill a few<\/a>, the fixes are in the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/jonathan.xulforum.org\/files\/gcv-nightlies\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">nightly versions<\/a>.\n<li> Next: Andy and Bryan have some work to do and a few things to help me on, I think we can aim for a new release maybe before Christmas with mostly bugfixes in, or maybe next year.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Trunk (Miramar) Development <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Active_Branches\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Active Branches\">Active branches<\/a>.\n<li> Next Alpha: Early January.\n<li> Help on fixing blockers would be very useful and appreciated, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.3:needed%20-status-thunderbird3.3:fixed%20-whiteboard:non-code&amp;order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id\" rel=\"nofollow\">this list of higher priority bugs<\/a>.\n<li> blocking criteria\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li> Alpha 1 -&gt; Serious usability issues.\n<li> After -&gt; not real criteria, regression\/usability issues as usual.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 3.2 <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Decision on if\/when we&#8217;ll do 3.2 on hold until we progress account provisioning further.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Stability &amp; Security Releases <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> 3.0.11 and 3.1.7 released.\n<li> <b>Planning to shut down 3.0.x nightly builds after Wednesday 15th<\/b>, now that 3.0.x is end-of-life.\n<li> The wiki page on the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Security_And_Stability_Releases\/Rules\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Security And Stability Releases\/Rules\">process for landing security patches<\/a> has now been made generic so that it applies to all security and stability branches.\n<li> Bug Lists: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major updates to 3.1 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> 2.0.0.24 -&gt; 3.1.7 Major Update refresh this week.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Infrastructure Update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Build \/ Release Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-12-13\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-12-13<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-12-13 From MozillaWiki &lt; 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