{"id":468,"date":"2011-01-12T00:00:13","date_gmt":"2011-01-12T04:00:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/468"},"modified":"2011-01-12T00:00:13","modified_gmt":"2011-01-12T04:00:13","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2011-01-11","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/468","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-01-11"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-01-11<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-01-04\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-01-04\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-01-25&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-01-25 (page does not exist)\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<table>\n<caption> <b>Current Release Schedules<\/b><br \/>\n<\/caption>\n<tr>\n<th width=\"50%\"> Thunderbird 3.3 Alpha 2 <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.1.8<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Release ETA: January\n<\/ul>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze: 18 Jan 23:59\n<li> L10n freeze: 18 Jan 23:59\n<li> Builds start: 19\/20 Jan\n<li> QA with builds start: 21 Jan\n<li> Beta period starts: Week of 24 Jan\n<li> Final release: 8th Feb\n<\/ul>\n<\/table>\n<p>\n<b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2011&amp;month=01&amp;day=11&amp;hour=17&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, January 11, 2011 17:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>Usul<\/b>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida or dmose for schedule changes\/additions.\n<li> Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Thanks to our Friends of the Tree When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozillamessaging.com so that he can send them a shirt!\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Funnel cake 4 launched last Thursday.  ADUs about 100 more users than Funnel cake 3.  Getting logs for this week and crunching the numbers.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>For more details, see also the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Driver_Meetings\/2011-01-11\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Driver Meetings\/2011-01-11\">driver meeting notes<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments#Account_Provisioner\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Account Provisioner<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Contracts continue to be worked on.\n<li> We&#8217;re also working on making a version that&#8217;s bundled with TB for wider testing.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Pluggable Mail Stores (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=402392\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 402392<\/a>):\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> berkeley and maildir stores pass all mailnews xpcshell tests.\n<li> Fixed mozmill and mail xpcshell tests as well.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Conversations  <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li>Released 2.0alpha2, mostly bug fixes, but it takes time to get things right.\n<li>Should be approved soon on AMO.\n<li>Blog post will follow with quick summary and changelog, check out <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/jonathan.xulforum.org\/files\/gcv-nightlies\/Changelog_master\" rel=\"nofollow\">the changelog here<\/a> in the meanwhile.\n<li>Feature work going on right now with clarkbw and andychung, hoping to push more features in the upcoming weeks, and cut alpha3 sometime later (no ETA yet).\n<li>Backend work going on in thunderbird-stdlib, will blog about my simpleStorage wrapper around mozStorage soon.\n<li>People checking out my github repo, please do:\n<\/ul>\n<pre>git submodule init\ngit submode update\n<\/pre>\n<p>This is not vital right now, I will blog and tweet about it as soon as I really depend on it, but if you pull and .gitmodules is modified, it&#8217;s time to submodule init+update.<\/p>\n<p>Thunderbird Sync , but no ETA yet!\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Trunk (Miramar) Development <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Active_Branches\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Active Branches\">Active branches<\/a>.\n<li> Next Alpha:\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze and cut this week (Thus. or Frid.)\n<li> Ships next week if plan is ok.\n<li> see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/tb-planning\/browse_frm\/thread\/65212d67284680f2\" rel=\"nofollow\">tb-planning post<\/a>\n<li> Aim to pick up about:support, Add-on Manager notification fixes (will tell you when add-on can&#8217;t be installed)\n<\/ul>\n<li> Help on fixing blockers would be very useful and appreciated, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.3:needed%20-status-thunderbird3.3:fixed%20-whiteboard:non-code&amp;order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id\" rel=\"nofollow\">this list of higher priority bugs<\/a>.\n<li> blocking criteria\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li> Alpha n -&gt; Serious usability issues.\n<li> After -&gt; no real criteria, regression\/usability issues as usual.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Stability &amp; Security Releases <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> 3.1.8 code freeze next Tuesday\n<li> Bug Lists: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1<\/a>\n<li> Crash fixes for the most of it\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major updates to 3.1 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> We now have over 80% of our ADUs on Thunderbird 3.1. (90% of these are on the latest version 3.1.7)\n<ul>\n<li> still getting people across with Major Updates.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Have a look at <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">Thunderbird:Testing<\/a> if you want to help.\n<li> We&#8217;ll have testing events for 3.3a2 &#8211; I&#8217;ll announce them on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">mdat<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/thunderbird-testers\" rel=\"nofollow\">tb-testers<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> PR update: updated the PR contact list, attending to a couple of reporter Tbird issues, current news centered around tips and tricks <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/article2\/0,2817,2375426,00.asp\" rel=\"nofollow\">PCmag article<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ghacks.net\/2011\/01\/08\/how-to-restore-a-thunderbird-profile-on-a-new-computer-after-crash\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Restore a Thunderbird profile<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ghacks.net\/2011\/01\/07\/google-webmail-filer-for-thunderbird\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Gmail filters for Thunderbird<\/a>\n<li> Web site redesign work.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Infrastructure Update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> 13 new linux build machines\n<ul>\n<li> 4 Linux 32\n<li> 1 Linux 64\n<li> 4 Fedora 32 Unittest\n<li> 4 Fedora 64 Unittest\n<\/ul>\n<li> Now running xpcshell\/mozmill tests on Fedora\n<li> Need a 1h downtime windows for build infrastructure for storage work\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Build \/ Release Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> fixed ccache on one of our Mac builders &#8211; apparent issue with MacPorts binary.  Need to investigate and fix other builders.\n<li> linux64 l10n nightly builds built on trunk\n<li> packaged unit tests moved to Fedora Linux\n<li> No switch to the gold linker on linux yet.\n<ul>\n<li> Gold linker, new version of <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gnu.org\/software\/binutils\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">gnu ld<\/a> that&#8217;s faster.\n<li> we are likely to take that once FF does.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Working on bringing up staging for sumomo port to kitsune\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>New articles:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/Message+List+Columns\" rel=\"nofollow\">Manipulating and propagating message list columns<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/Add+Security+Exception\" rel=\"nofollow\">Security certificate warnings \/ adding exceptions<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>(If you support Thunderbird or write documentation to help support Thunderbird, please <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/tb-support-crew\" rel=\"nofollow\">subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list<\/a> and briefly introduce yourself to the list)\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> Happy New Year and thanks to all who supported Thunderbird or wrote or localized Thunderbird documentation in 2010!\n<li> 474 new support topics\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues\">3.1 Support Issues<\/a>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\/Goals\/2011\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\/Goals\/2011\">Draft 2011 Thunderbird Support Goals<\/a>\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-01-11\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-01-11\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> End of the tunnel for lightning on trunk\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Reviews\n<ul>\n<li> See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/bit.ly\/eEQhAM\" rel=\"nofollow\">blog post<\/a> for detailed information\n<li> Backlog of reviews in Thunderbird product now down to approx 1 month.\n<li> Looking to do the same in Mailnews Core for early this year.\n<ul>\n<li> plan is to make it happen in the first part\n<li> At least a couple of months\n<\/ul>\n<li> This is aimed to help management of reviews and as a result improve review times overall.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Personnas compatible with 3.1 again.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Rebron, Standard8, Bwinton, Usul, gozer, Jhopkins, Jenzed, Roland, Bienvenu, Clarkbw, Sancus<\/p>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-01-11\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-01-11<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-01-11 From MozillaWiki &lt; 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