{"id":474,"date":"2011-01-19T00:00:09","date_gmt":"2011-01-19T04:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/474"},"modified":"2011-01-19T00:00:09","modified_gmt":"2011-01-19T04:00:09","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2011-01-18","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/474","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-01-18"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-01-18<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-01-11\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-01-11\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-01\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-01\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<table>\n<caption> <b>Current Release Schedules<\/b><br \/>\n<\/caption>\n<tr>\n<th width=\"50%\"> Thunderbird 3.3 Alpha 2 <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.1.8<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Code Freeze and build start: 14th Jan (tentative)\n<li> Release: 20th Jan (tentative)\n<\/ul>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze: 18 Jan 23:59\n<li> L10n freeze: 18 Jan 23:59\n<li> Builds start: 19\/20 Jan\n<li> QA with builds start: 21 Jan\n<li> Beta period starts: Week of 24 Jan\n<li> Final release: 8th Feb\n<\/ul>\n<\/table>\n<p>\n<b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2011&amp;month=01&amp;day=18&amp;hour=17&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, January 18, 2011 17:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>Jhopkins<\/b>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida or dmose for schedule changes\/additions.\n<li> Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Thanks to our Friends of the Tree When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozillamessaging.com so that he can send them a shirt!\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Still number crunching Funnel Cake 4 numbers.  Numbers looking consistent from the past.\n<li> Next Funnel cake 5 off of 3.1.8.\n<li> Will have a summary for all of the funnelcakes for next week&#8217;s all-hands.\n<li> ISPDB consistently above 40% success rate.  Top missing domains: ocn.ad.jp, interia.pl, psmtp.com, aon.at, one.com, cox.net, telenet-ops.be, shaw.ca, bbox.fr, alice.de\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>For more details, see also the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Driver_Meetings\/2011-01-18\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Driver Meetings\/2011-01-18\">driver meeting notes<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Mike Conley introduction.  Very interested in Mozilla&#8217;s code review procedures.\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments#Account_Provisioner\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Account Provisioner<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Contracts continue to be worked on.\n<li> We&#8217;re also working on making a version that&#8217;s bundled with TB for wider testing.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Pluggable Mail Stores (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=402392\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 402392<\/a>):\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Working on design for migration code &#8211; random thoughts here &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Pluggable_Store_Migration\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Pluggable_Store_Migration<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Conversations <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Quiet week, more bugfixes, but no more bug reports, so the count is slowly going down.\n<li> If you are checking out Thunderbird Conversations from GitHub, read <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.xulforum.org\/index.php?post\/2011\/01\/15\/Thunderbird-Conversations-git-update\" rel=\"nofollow\">this blog announcement<\/a>.\n<li> If you want to help, check out <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/protz\/GMail-Conversation-View\/issues\" rel=\"nofollow\">the bug tracker<\/a>.\n<li> Fallen has been looking into Lightning notifications support in Thunderbird Conversations.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Sync <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Still looking to put together a release in the next couple of weeks\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Trunk (Miramar) Development <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Active_Branches\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Active Branches\">Active branches<\/a>.\n<li> addon manager notifies user of incompatible addons\n<li> 3.3a2 cut, expecting to release on Thursday.\n<li> Help on fixing blockers would be very useful and appreciated, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.3:needed%20-status-thunderbird3.3:fixed%20-whiteboard:non-code&amp;order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id\" rel=\"nofollow\">this list of higher priority bugs<\/a>.\n<li> blocking criteria\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li> Alpha n -&gt; Serious usability issues.\n<li> After -&gt; no real criteria, regression\/usability issues as usual.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Stability &amp; Security Releases <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> 3.1.8 code freeze <b>today<\/b>\n<li> Bug Lists: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1<\/a>\n<li> Crash fixes for the most of it\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major updates to 3.1 <\/span><\/h5>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Testing 3.3a2 in <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/litmus.mozilla.org\/test_run_report.cgi?test_run_id=252\" rel=\"nofollow\">progress<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> Thanks to the volunteers who signed up.\n<li> To participate for our next testing round, subscribe to the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/thunderbird-testers\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thunderbird-testers mailing list<\/a>\n<li> We found <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/showdependencytree.cgi?id=625729&amp;hide_resolved=1\" rel=\"nofollow\">some bugs<\/a>, but nothing major yet.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/User:Jcranmer\" title=\"User:Jcranmer\">Joshua Cranmer<\/a> has patches that fix most of the news uri handling in TB. This makes it possible to use <a class=\"external free\" href=\"news:\/\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">news:\/\/<\/a> or nntp:\/\/ urls. To make sure we aren&#8217;t regressing he&#8217;s <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/quetzalcoatal.blogspot.com\/2011\/01\/news-uri-handling.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">built a try build<\/a> and need people using Thunderbird as a news reader to test these kinds of urls.\n<li> Testing of 3.1.8 will begin once we have builds.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> PR Update: A few articles on Thunderbird extensions <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/downloadsquad.switched.com\/2011\/01\/14\/thunderbird-conversations-2-0-alpha-2-released\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">conversation view<\/a> and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ghacks.net\/2011\/01\/17\/telify-convert-phone-numbers-into-links-for-use-with-skype\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">1<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.mozilla-org\/browse_thread\/thread\/45d8533ecb223753?pli=1\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minutes<\/a> from Web Task force meeting\n<li> Perfect UI consistency will take a long time to achieve.  Will talk more at the all-hands.\n<li> ADUs &#8211; back to high of 6.7MM total adus, 81% on Thunderbird 3.x\n<li> Next:\n<ul>\n<li> All Hands\n<li> Funnel cake summaries\/preso\n<li> 3.1.8 and 3.3a2\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Infrastructure Update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> More builders have been added and more to come\n<li> Unittest on Fedora for try (ThunderbirdTest)\n<li> New 2048 bits build signing keys:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371\/pks\/lookup?op=get&amp;search=0xCB7F028BF4E9976A\" rel=\"nofollow\">0xCB7F028BF4E9976A<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371\/pks\/lookup?op=get&amp;search=0x16E8A0CFF6C242EC\" rel=\"nofollow\">0x16E8A0CFF6C242EC<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Fix the annoying random-orange test_nsIProcess.js bug\u00a0: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=620101\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 620101<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Build \/ Release Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Thunderbird 3.3a2 build 1\n<li> ccache issues resolved\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> kitsune development instance for sumomo @ <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/ochoa.sj.mozillamessaging.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/ochoa.sj.mozillamessaging.com<\/a> for now\n<ul>\n<li> Quite a few changes need to be made, mostly in templates\/logos\/strings to switch from &#8220;Firefox&#8221;-centric to Thunderbird, but so far probably no Python changes. Not final!\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>(If you support Thunderbird or write documentation to help support Thunderbird, please <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/tb-support-crew\" rel=\"nofollow\">subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list<\/a> and briefly introduce yourself to the list\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> Get Satisfaction (GS) conversations support added to the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/protz\/GMail-Conversation-View\" rel=\"nofollow\">Conversations View TB add-on<\/a> (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/jonathan.xulforum.org\/files\/gcv-nightlies\/Conversations\" rel=\"nofollow\">nightly builds<\/a>; requires Miramar, WARNING alpha, don&#8217;t use unless you are technical!!!!!) (would be a lot better if <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/getsatisfaction\/topics\/send_email_notifications_in_a_format_that_supports_threaded_view_in_inbox?utm_content=topic_link&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=reply_notification\" rel=\"nofollow\">GS added standards compliant threading<\/a>) &#8211; thanks Protz!\n<li> SuMoMo move to Kitsune KB tracker <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=623690\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 623690<\/a> &#8211; Andrei has test instance on his VPS, will have public staging test server on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=623691\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 623691<\/a>\n<li> 555 new support topics (+17% from 474 last week; a little above normal levels)\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues\">3.1 Support Issues<\/a>\n<li> new Get Satisfaction (GS) contributors: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/people\/rob_1864031\" rel=\"nofollow\">rob_1864031<\/a> and  <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/people\/claire_1703356\" rel=\"nofollow\">claire_1703356<\/a> (Thanks! and Welcome!) &#8211; always looking for new GS and SuMoMo contributors, roland AT mozillamessaging.com OR #gsfn irc.mozilla.org nick:rolandtanglao\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-01-18\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2010-01-18\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> No call next week\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-01-18\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-01-18<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-01-18 From MozillaWiki &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings last meeting | index | next meeting \u00bb Current Release Schedules Thunderbird 3.3 Alpha 2 Thunderbird 3.1.8 Code Freeze and build start: 14th Jan (tentative) Release: 20th Jan (tentative) Code freeze: 18 Jan 23:59 L10n freeze: 18 Jan 23:59 Builds start: 19\/20 Jan QA with builds start: 21 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[40],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/474"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=474"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/474\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=474"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=474"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=474"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}