{"id":488,"date":"2011-02-09T00:00:06","date_gmt":"2011-02-09T04:00:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/488"},"modified":"2011-02-09T00:00:06","modified_gmt":"2011-02-09T04:00:06","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2011-02-08","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/488","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-02-08"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-08<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-01\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-01\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-15\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-15\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<table>\n<caption> <b>Current Release Schedules<\/b><br \/>\n<\/caption>\n<tr>\n<th width=\"50%\"> Thunderbird 3.3 Alpha 3 <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.1.8<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> TBD<\/p>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze: 18 Jan 23:59\n<li> L10n freeze: 18 Jan 23:59\n<li> Builds start: 19\/20 Jan\n<li> QA with builds start: 21 Jan\n<li> Beta period starts: Week of 24 Jan\n<li> Build 2 starts: 7th Feb\n<li> Build 2 Beta period starts: 8th\/9th Feb\n<li> Final release: 14th Feb\n<\/ul>\n<\/table>\n<p>\n<b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2011&amp;month=02&amp;day=08&amp;hour=17&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, February 8, 2011 17:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.<\/p>\n<p>Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\" title=\"Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\">communications<\/a> page\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>Standard8<\/b>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida or dmose for schedule changes\/additions.\n<li> Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Thanks to our Friends of the Tree When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozillamessaging.com so that he can send them a shirt!\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Funnel cake 5, pending release of 3.1.8 and updates to download pages.\n<li> 40% to over 50% ISPDB success rate.  Top missing domains: ocn.ad.jp, psmtp.com, interia.pl, aon.at, cox.net, btinternet.com, one.com, telenet-ops.be, example.com, telia.com.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>For more details, see also the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Driver_Meetings\/2011-02-08\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Driver Meetings\/2011-02-08\">driver meeting notes<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments#Account_Provisioner\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Account Provisioner<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Contracts continue to be worked on.\n<li> Standard8 is working on making a version that&#8217;s bundled with TB for wider testing.\n<li> Bryan and I are implementing a new UI with both free and paid account options.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Search Integration:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> &#8220;Integrating web search facilities into the Thunderbird UI&#8221;\n<li> Once version of the add-on made up, currently experimenting with the UI\n<li> Possibly releasing first version next week.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Conversations <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> FOSDEM conference, see <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.xulforum.org\/index.php?post\/2011\/02\/06\/Fosdem-2011\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/blog.xulforum.org\/index.php?post\/2011\/02\/06\/Fosdem-2011<\/a>\n<li> Patches for Gecko submitted, patches for Thunderbird in the works (all improving Thunderbird Conversations somehow)\n<li> Added content sniffing to figure out who did the action for get satisfaction emails as well as github emails\n<li> Feature work + heavy refactoring\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Compose in a tab <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> High demand for it at FOSDEM\n<li> Rewrote half the code to make it use thunderbird-stdlib\n<li> Huge amount of work required to make it on par with the standard composition window.\n<li> Planning on rewriting the other half soon so that other people can use a working prototype and start hacking on it. Will drive the experiment up to the point where&#8217;s it&#8217;s roughly usable as a drop-in replacement, and then will issue a call for participation.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Sync <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> No progress this week\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Trunk (Miramar) Development <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> More info about 3.3 going on tb-planning within the next day or so.\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Active_Branches\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Active Branches\">Active branches<\/a>.\n<li> Help on fixing blockers would be very useful and appreciated, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.3:needed%20-status-thunderbird3.3:fixed%20-whiteboard:non-code&amp;order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id\" rel=\"nofollow\">this list of higher priority bugs<\/a>.\n<li> blocking criteria\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li> Alpha n -&gt; Serious usability issues.\n<li> After -&gt; no real criteria, regression\/usability issues as usual.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Stability &amp; Security Releases <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> 3.1.8 being respun due to a crash regression, revised release date of 14th.\n<li> Bug Lists: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Ongoing work in bugzilla\n<li> Ongoing testing work\n<li> Our <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/thunderbird-testers\" rel=\"nofollow\">tester&#8217;s mailing list<\/a> is where we announce testing events.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> PR Update: latest articles &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/thejournal.com\/articles\/2011\/02\/03\/free-for-all-great-freeware-for-the-classroom.aspx\" rel=\"nofollow\">Free for All: Great Freeware for the Classroom<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com\/2011\/02\/07\/q-a-missing-stationery-in-windows-live-mail\/?src=busln\" rel=\"nofollow\">Q.&amp;A.: Missing Stationery in Windows Live Mail<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.lupa.cz\/zpravicky\/upc-radi-nahradit-mozilla-thunderbird-programem-outlook-express\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Web UPC rad\u00ed nahradit Mozilla Thunderbird programem Outlook Express<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cebit.de\/home\" rel=\"nofollow\">CeBIT<\/a> planning March 1 &#8211; 5.  Mozilla booth, organizing through Barbara Huppe and her team.\n<li> Good first community engagement town hall.  Here are the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/htmlpad.org\/contributor-engagement-townhall#\" rel=\"nofollow\">slides<\/a>.\n<ul>\n<li> European community engagement town hall today at 8 February @ 9 p.m CET.  <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/somethin-else.org\/index.php?post\/2011\/02\/07\/EMEA-Town-Hall-Meeting-Tuesday-8-February-%40-9-p.m-CET\" rel=\"nofollow\">Details.<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/gen\/2011\/02\/07\/town-hall-asia-meeting-feb-8th\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">One more in Asia<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Infrastructure Update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Calendar has their very own buildbot master now\n<ul>\n<li> l10n repacks are almost working (yay to Fallen)\n<\/ul>\n<li> mozillamessaging.com <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/noc.mozillamessaging.com\/2011\/02\/outage-2011-02-08-0040-0215-pst.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Outage<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Build \/ Release Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>(If you support Thunderbird or write documentation to help support Thunderbird, please <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/tb-support-crew\" rel=\"nofollow\">subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list<\/a> and briefly introduce yourself to the list)\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> 670 new support topics (don&#8217;t know why it&#8217;s up,normal is 400-500)\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues\">3.1 Support Issues<\/a>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\/GetSatisfaction\/GettingStarted\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\/GetSatisfaction\/GettingStarted\">Getting Started with Get Satisfaction (to close the &#8220;Answerer Loop&#8221;), a guide for those who are new to support, have given a few good answers and want to know how to support others better<\/a> will ask <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/getsatisfaction.com\/people\/jeffgman\" rel=\"nofollow\">new GS contributor jeffgman<\/a> for feedback &#8211; Working on a similar Getting Started Guide for Thunderbird writers (to close the &#8220;Writer Loop&#8221;) who have written great replies or modified KB articles  and want to know how to go the next level and write more and better KB articles\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-08\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-08\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Lightning is back on track regarding trunk (1.1a1pre) nightlys, thanks to <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=591744\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 591744<\/a> being fixed.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> We are on the verge of being able to provide localized Lightning nightlys (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=346278\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 346278<\/a>)\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> 3 bugs before String freeze, all are awaiting review (which are due Thursday). If things work out I will string freeze starting next week.\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Fallen will talk to Trendmicro about whitelisting on Thursday\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-08\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-08<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-08 From MozillaWiki &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings last meeting | index | next meeting \u00bb Current Release Schedules Thunderbird 3.3 Alpha 3 Thunderbird 3.1.8 TBD Code freeze: 18 Jan 23:59 L10n freeze: 18 Jan 23:59 Builds start: 19\/20 Jan QA with builds start: 21 Jan Beta period starts: Week of 24 Jan Build 2 starts: [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[40],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/488"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=488"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/488\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=488"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=488"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=488"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}