{"id":49,"date":"2008-09-09T23:00:54","date_gmt":"2008-09-10T03:00:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/49"},"modified":"2008-09-09T23:00:54","modified_gmt":"2008-09-10T03:00:54","slug":"seamonkey-meeting-minutes-2008-09-09","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/49","title":{"rendered":"SeaMonkey Meeting Minutes: 2008-09-09"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2008-09-09<\/h1>\n<h3>From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div id=\"contentSub\"><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2008-08-26\" title=\"2008-08-26\">\u00ab last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings\" title=\"StatusMeetings\">index<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>SeaMonkey Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Time: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?day=9&amp;month=9&amp;year=2008&amp;hour=12&amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;p1=0\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?day=9&amp;month=9&amp;year=2008&amp;hour=12&amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;p1=0\">September 09, 2008, 12:00 UTC<\/a>\n<li> Location: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/seamonkey\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/seamonkey\">#seamonkey IRC channel<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Agenda\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda <\/span> <\/h2>\n<p><a name=\"Action_Items\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> any?\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"SeaMonkey_2_Alpha\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> SeaMonkey 2 Alpha <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-seamonkey2.0a1%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-seamonkey2.0a1%2B\">open blockers<\/a><br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-seamonkey2.0a1%2B\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-seamonkey2.0a1%2B\">all blockers<\/a><br \/>\n<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-seamonkey2.0a1%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-seamonkey2.0a1%3F\">blocker requests<\/a><\/p>\n<p>We have 4 open blockers right now:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<ul>\n<li> A questionable (IMHO) security bug,\n<li> Removing feed detection on the relbranch (which should not happen in normal nightlies)\n<li> Prefpanel migration (almost done).\n<ul>\n<li> Languages was started by stefanh, who is on vacation; IanN has taken that over and will try to deliver the patch today.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=423211\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=423211\">bug 423211<\/a> Bookmarks import from old profiles (This probably affects migrator code). Problem has been diagnosed. Patch needed. mcsmurf will look into this.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>FREEZE TODAY!<\/b><\/p>\n<p><i>All SeaMonkey-specific patches from tomorrow until the Alpha 1 cut (unfreezing) need approval-seamonkey2.0a1+ (or being for blocking-seamonkey2.0a1+ bugs)!<\/i>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=394522\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=394522\">bug 394522<\/a> prefwindow move\n<ul>\n<li> Status\/Progress?\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=444170\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=444170\">bug 444170<\/a> (Master Password) &#8211; Done.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=444411\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=444411\">bug 444411<\/a> (Browser &gt; Languages) Assigned (stefanh Away). <b>help-wanted<\/b> to drive forward &#8211; IanN has started work on it, hoping to get a patch ready for review tonight.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=444582\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=444582\">bug 444582<\/a> (Download) Fixed except for Profile migration patch.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=445015\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=445015\">bug 445015<\/a> (Validation) &#8211; Waiting for reviews.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Other blockers? Status\/Progress?\n<li> Blocker triage?\n<ul>\n<li> IanN started the triaging of blockers on behalf of the SM Council &#8211; 5 need further review, they probably need a council decision, and 2 new have been added which are unconfirmed &#8211; I will look at those 2 later today.\n<li> We have 7 bugs marked as <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-seamonkey2.0a1%3F\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=blocking-seamonkey2.0a1%3F\">blocking-seamonkey2.0a1<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> mcsmurf: to look at the two unconfirmed migrator bugs.\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=452465\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=452465\">bug 452465<\/a> is an uncommon edge case. Should be minused.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=438793\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=438793\">bug 438793<\/a> mnyromyr: Treelines in DOMI and Venkman are fixed, I hope to finish Mailnews by tonight &#8211; these are the three critical places. If that doesn&#8217;t work out by maybe Friday, I&#8217;ll remove the blocking.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=418150\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=418150\">bug 418150<\/a> mcsmurf and Neil are looking into this.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=429187\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=429187\">bug 429187<\/a> minused. There&#8217;s a workaround for most cases.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=419178\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=419178\">bug 419178<\/a> minused. Minor UI glitch.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Shipping target &#8211; is the freeze today still OK? When can we target actually shipping this?\n<ul>\n<li> Today midnight PST looks good.\n<li> We probably need to be in that freeze for a bit until the remaining blockers are fixed, but we hope we can cut Alpha 1 within those next two weeks. After that we will need some time for doing builds and QAing them.\n<li> KaiRo will coordinate with the Council and the Mozilla build team on where\/when to cut Alpha and how to do that and builds.\n<li> What areas does freeze cover? (e.g. mailnews\/ suite? &#8211; note: TB&#8217;s freeze moved out by two weeks).\n<ul>\n<li> we can only freeze SeaMonkey-specific code.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Release notes\n<ul>\n<li> We need to gather a list of major changes to 1.1.x that this Alpha contains.\n<li> Should we restructure relnotes completely? Who can help with that?\n<\/ul>\n<li> Trunk versioning. After Alpha 1 is cut the trunk should bumped to 2.0a2pre.\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Longer-Term_SeaMonkey_2_Planning\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Longer-Term SeaMonkey 2 Planning <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p>Major wanted\/needed features:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=381157\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=381157\">bug 381157<\/a> Download manager.\n<ul>\n<li> Status\/Progress? No progress at the moment.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=390025\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=390025\">bug 390025<\/a> Kill-wallet (password manager).\n<ul>\n<li> Updated LDAP patch\n<li> Now starting to look at SMTP.\n<li> This is also blocking Thunderbird 3 beta, but Standard8 is not sure that this will make it.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=382187\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=382187\">bug 382187<\/a> Places history.\n<ul>\n<li> Neil made the urlbar autocomplete (&#8220;Smart Location Bar&#8221;) work just nicely.\n<li> We still need help to make the history window and the history sidebar work.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=36810\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=36810\">bug 36810<\/a> Session restore.\n<ul>\n<li> Status: waiting for reviews. Misak is keeping this patch up to date porting latest patches from the other browser.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Other topic:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Toolkit feature-freeze (beta 1 code freeze) now Sept 30th &#8211; what needs to land before that from our POV?\n<ul>\n<li> Toolbar customization patch.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Documentation should be redone, we need someone to work on that\n<ul>\n<li> one idea is to auto-import in-product help pages to website but someone would need to write up a script to do that.\n<li> Another idea is migrating end-user documentation from www.mozilla.org to seamonkey-project.org, reworking it to be current &#8211; <i>help wanted<\/i>!\n<li> Yet another idea would be to set up the SUMO system for SeaMonkey to get a knowledge base and web forums (we probably don&#8217;t have the manpower for live chat support), some lose contact to SUMO people is here, but also help needed.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Roundtable\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable <\/span> <\/h3>\n<p>Status Updates from developers &#8211; what are you working on, what&#8217;s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status)\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> ajschult\n<ul>\n<li> QA looks very good for SeaMonkey 1.1.12.\n<\/ul>\n<li> biesi\n<li> Callek\n<ul>\n<li> Has access to the buildbot machines, so am a proper backup for KaiRo now.\n<li> Continue working on build-config fixes and getting the rest of SeaMonkey 2.0 final stuff.\n<\/ul>\n<li> IanN\n<ul>\n<li> Been working through various preference related patches both writing and reviewing, also working on some mailnews patches.\n<li> Not at meeting due to being on a &#8220;lovely&#8221; EIA course, I&#8217;ll read\/respond to minutes later.\n<\/ul>\n<li> KaiRo\n<ul>\n<li> Helped prefwindow stuff slightly by moving security prefs to comm-central and removing pref-winhooks after shellservice UI landed\n<li> Tried to push people to get prefpanes finished for the freeze\n<li> Fixed testing profiles so mochitests don&#8217;t fail due to a shellservice popup\n<li> Landed parts of <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451601\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=451601\">bug 451601<\/a>, killing xpfe-style chrome versions, will be completed once I get DOMi r+\n<li> Some fixes to comm-central build system, e.g. making &#8220;make install&#8221; work, better autoconf 2.13 detection, relative l10n-base\n<li> Enabled L10n builds for hg, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ftp.mozilla.org\/pub\/mozilla.org\/seamonkey\/nightly\/latest-comm-central-l10n\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/ftp.mozilla.org\/pub\/mozilla.org\/seamonkey\/nightly\/latest-comm-central-l10n\/\">latest-comm-central-l10n<\/a>\n<li> Started the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey:Release_Process\" title=\"Release Process\">Release Process<\/a> for 1.1.12\n<li> As always, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/home.kairo.at\/blog\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"http:\/\/home.kairo.at\/blog\/\">my blog<\/a> has more detailed status about my work\n<\/ul>\n<li> mcsmurf\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=441050\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=441050\">bug 441050<\/a> Create shell service UI finished\n<li> Looking into updating installer and shell service code with the Firefox\/Thunderbird shell service code (more Vista improvements), this is something for another alpha\/beta, involves somewhat complex changes\n<\/ul>\n<li> Misak\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=36810\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=36810\">bug 36810<\/a> (session restore)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=425480\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=425480\">bug 425480<\/a> (non-ASCII characters should be decoded in the urlbar)\n<li> Bug reporting and bug triage.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Mnyromyr\n<ul>\n<li> Working on treelines; and mail data for mochitest profiles.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Neil\n<li> Ratty\n<ul>\n<li> Working on prefpane migration bugs <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=445013\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=445013\">bug 445013<\/a>, (SSL) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=445014\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=445014\">bug 445014<\/a> (Certificates), and <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=445015\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=445015\">bug 445015<\/a> (Validation).\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=428216\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=428216\">bug 428216<\/a> (Toolbar button size\/mode control) on hold as working on blockers.\n<\/ul>\n<li> Standard8\n<ul>\n<li> Password Manager, see above.\n<li> Updated preference pane code for <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=408613\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=408613\">bug 408613<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> stefanh (on vacation)\n<li> Mreimer\n<ul>\n<li> <strike><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=444161\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=444161\">bug 444161<\/a><\/strike>(done)\n<li> <strike><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=394522\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=394522\">bug 394522<\/a><\/strike>(done)\n<li> <strike><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=444169\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=444169\">bug 444169<\/a><\/strike>(done)\n<li> <strike><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=444170\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=444170\">bug 444170<\/a><\/strike>(done)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"Any_other_business.3F\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"mw-headline\"> Any other business? <\/span> <\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Modern Update: No progress report yet. Ratty will check with Kuden later this month.\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2008-09-09\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2008-09-09<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2008-09-09 From MozillaWiki \u00ab last meeting | index SeaMonkey Meeting Details Time: September 09, 2008, 12:00 UTC Location: #seamonkey IRC channel Agenda Action Items any? 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