{"id":493,"date":"2011-02-16T00:00:06","date_gmt":"2011-02-16T04:00:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/493"},"modified":"2011-02-16T00:00:06","modified_gmt":"2011-02-16T04:00:06","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2011-02-15","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/493","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-02-15"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-15<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-08\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-08\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-22\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-22\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<table>\n<caption> <b>Current Release Schedules<\/b><br \/>\n<\/caption>\n<tr>\n<th width=\"50%\"> Thunderbird 3.3 Alpha 3 <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.1.8<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> TBD<\/p>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze: 18 Jan 23:59\n<li> L10n freeze: 18 Jan 23:59\n<li> Builds start: 19\/20 Jan\n<li> QA with builds start: 21 Jan\n<li> Beta period starts: Week of 24 Jan\n<li> Build 2 starts: 7th Feb\n<li> Build 2 Beta period starts: 8th\/9th Feb\n<li> Final release: TBD\n<\/ul>\n<\/table>\n<p>\n<b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2011&amp;month=02&amp;day=15&amp;hour=17&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, February 15, 2011 17:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.<\/p>\n<p>Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\" title=\"Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\">communications<\/a> page\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>bienvenu<\/b>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/ascher.ca\/thunderbird\/minutes_schedule.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to davida or dmose for schedule changes\/additions.\n<li> Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Thanks to our Friends of the Tree When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozillamessaging.com so that he can send them a shirt!\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Funnel Cake 5, on hold until Tb 3.1.8.\n<li> Still holding steady with ISPDB at 40-50%, top missing domains remain the same set: ocn.ad.jp, psmtp.com, aon.at, interia.pl, one.com, cox.net, telenet-ops.be, outlook.com, one.com, example.com centrum.cz.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>For more details, see also the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Driver_Meetings\/2011-02-15\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Driver Meetings\/2011-02-15\">driver meeting notes<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments#Account_Provisioner\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Account Provisioner<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Contracts continue to be worked on.\n<li> Standard8 is working on making a version that&#8217;s bundled with TB for wider testing.\n<li> Bryan and I are implementing a new UI with both free and paid account options.\n<li> We will likely ship 3.3 with only limited integration with free accounts.\n<\/ul>\n<p>Search Integration:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> &#8220;Integrating web search facilities into the Thunderbird UI&#8221;\n<li> Once version of the add-on made up, currently experimenting with the UI\n<li> Hopefully releasing first version this week.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Conversations <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Now uses MailServices (clarkbw contribution). This means you need a recent 3.3 build. Only one file converted, still need to move the rest of the files to MailServices.\n<li> l10n work, see mail on tb-planning\n<li> Implemented a gallery view for emails with image attachments (mockup by Andy).\n<li> More work on bug 628669, hoping to get it in for 3.3a3, because the situation is bad with thunderbird-stdlib.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Compose in a tab <\/span><\/h5>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Sync <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> No progress this week\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Trunk (Miramar) Development <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/tb-planning\/browse_frm\/thread\/b3c443fa2a843a19#\" rel=\"nofollow\">Planned 3.3 Feature discussion on tb-planning<\/a>\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Active_Branches\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Active Branches\">Active branches<\/a>.\n<li> Help on fixing blockers would be very useful and appreciated, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20blocking-thunderbird3.3:needed%20-status-thunderbird3.3:fixed%20-whiteboard:non-code&amp;order=map_assigned_to.login_name,bugs.bug_id\" rel=\"nofollow\">this list of higher priority bugs<\/a>.\n<li> blocking criteria\u00a0:\n<ul>\n<li> Alpha n -&gt; Serious usability issues.\n<li> After -&gt; no real criteria, regression\/usability issues as usual.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Stability &amp; Security Releases <\/span><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li> Both 3.1.8 and Firefox 3.6.14 currently have crash issues, waiting for resolution before we get revised ETA for releases.\n<li> Bug Lists: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Maintaining Bugzilla\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/thunderbird-testers|\" rel=\"nofollow\">tester&#8217;s mailing list<\/a> is low traffic you should subscribe to be warned when testing is going on.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> PR Update: Nice <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.devicemag.com\/2011\/02\/15\/browse-the-web-in-your-email-client-with-thunderbrowse\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thunderbrowse article<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.eltiempo.com\/tecnologia\/consejos\/ganele-la-guerra-al-peligroso-spam_8851782-4\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spanish article<\/a> w\/ a recommendation of Thunderbird, some reporters waiting on our next security releases\n<li> Thunderbird ADUs: Top countries German, US, Japan, France, Italy, Poland, UK; steady at over 75k downloads a day and hitting 6.8MM ADUs during the week.  About 12% remaining on Thunderbird 2.\n<li> Cebit, March 3-5.  There&#8217;s a Mozilla Firefox booth, equipping the team there with Thunderbird information, Q&amp;A, etc.\n<li> &#8220;One Mozilla&#8221; web site <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.mozilla-org\/browse_thread\/thread\/300ca7d4bd9c5eff?pli=1\" rel=\"nofollow\">Task Force meeting notes<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/htmlpad.org\/contributor-engagement-townhall\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Community Town Halls<\/a> wrapped up last week\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Infrastructure Update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Buildbot BuildAPI\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/build.mozillamessaging.com\/tinderboxpushlog\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">tinderboxpushlog<\/a> shows pending builds again and infrastructure load\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/build.mozillamessaging.com\/buildbot\/production\/buildapi\/pending.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pending Builds<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/build.mozillamessaging.com\/buildbot\/production\/buildapi\/running.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Running Builds<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Kitsune (<i>new support site<\/i>) <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/stage-kitsune.mozillamessaging.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Staging<\/a>\n<li> SpreadThunderbird downtime\u00a0: <i>Feb 16 @ 10:00-11:00 PDT<\/i>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Build \/ Release Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Disabled tryserver xpcshell tests on CentOS as they&#8217;re already running on Fedora.\n<li> Moved Calendar&#8217;s buildbot master to a dedicated VM and handed off access.\n<li> comm-central hg bundles created weekly at: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"ftp:\/\/ftp.eu.mozilla.org\/pub\/thunderbird\/bundles\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">ftp:\/\/ftp.eu.mozilla.org\/pub\/thunderbird\/bundles\/<\/a> (Bug 631126)\n<li> tryserver Mac 10.6 builds should fire off unit tests on both 10.5 and 10.6 platforms (Bug 605230)\n<li> Will be working on\n<\/ul>\n<pre> * Bug 631597 - Prototype the \"Canary\" system for Thunderbird\n * Data mining Thunderbird download data with Ludovic\n<\/pre>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> AMO <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=600367\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 600367<\/a> almost done, this week!\n<li> setting up dummy Yahoo service for Blake\n<li> setting up logging server for davidb, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=632639\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 632639<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> contribution: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/Vacation+Response\" rel=\"nofollow\">Vacation Response<\/a>\n<li> &#8220;Where do I&#8230;&#8221; preference reference: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Documentation\/Help_finding_prefs#Parameters_and_scope\" rel=\"nofollow\">project plan<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/spreadsheets.google.com\/ccc?key=0AiPQfj2b4dU_dGZCRlcyZ0MyRGp5OVlOUGJfZDBZQ3c&amp;hl=en#gid=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">question list<\/a>\n<li> starting on moving content from Sumomo to Kitsune staging this week\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>(If you support Thunderbird or write documentation to help support Thunderbird, please <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/tb-support-crew\" rel=\"nofollow\">subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list<\/a> and briefly introduce yourself to the list)\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> 655 new support topics (again don&#8217;t know why it&#8217;s up,normal is 400-500, last week 670)\n<li> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Thunderbird3.1SupportIssues\">3.1 Support Issues<\/a>\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-15\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-15\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Two Add-on collections set up, see <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/tb-planning\/browse_frm\/thread\/2d43821e555f343b#\" rel=\"nofollow\">tb-planning for more info<\/a>:\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/thunderbird\/collections\/mozillamessaging\/mozilla-labs-messaging-add-ons\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Labs Messaging Add-ons<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/thunderbird\/collections\/mozillamessaging\/thunderbird-tester-tools\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thunderbird Tester Tools<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>dmose rebron gozer blake bienvenu roland ludo standard8 jenzed sancus jhopkins\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-15\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-15<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-02-15 From MozillaWiki &lt; 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