{"id":494,"date":"2011-02-17T00:00:04","date_gmt":"2011-02-17T04:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/494"},"modified":"2011-02-17T00:00:04","modified_gmt":"2011-02-17T04:00:04","slug":"firefoxgecko-delivery-meeting-minutes-2011-02-16","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/494","title":{"rendered":"Firefox\/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-02-16"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1>Firefox\/Planning\/2011-02-16<\/h1>\n<h3 id=\"siteSub\">From MozillaWiki<\/h3>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\" title=\"Firefox\">Firefox<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\">Planning<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-02-09\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-02-09\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a class=\"mw-redirect\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\" title=\"Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Firefox\/Planning\/2011-02-23&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-02-23 (page does not exist)\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Firefox\/Gecko Delivery Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am PST, 18:00 UTC\n<li> Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room\n<li> Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\" rel=\"nofollow\">irc.mozilla.org #planning<\/a> for backchannel\n<li> (the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform#Meetings\" title=\"Platform\">developer meeting<\/a> takes place on Tuesdays)\n<\/ul>\n<div style=\"margin: 1em 0px;padding: 1em;background-color: orange;text-align: center\"><b>REMEMBER<\/b><\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: x-small\">These notes are read by people who weren&#8217;t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h1> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <b><big>Agenda<\/big><\/b> <\/span><\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li> actions from last week:\n<li> schedule and progress on upcoming releases\n<li> review highlights and notices\n<li> respond to questions and concerns\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Action Items<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule &amp; Progress on <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\" title=\"Releases\">Upcoming Releases<\/a> <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox 4 (Desktop) <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox 4 (Mobile) <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox 3.6\/3.5<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><b>Firefox 3.6.14 and 3.5.17<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Still investigating the startup crash &#8220;regression&#8221; on 3.6.14 (<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=633869\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 633869<\/a>)\n<li> Looks like it&#8217;s caused by frankenbuilds&#8230;older dlls and updated exe\n<li> Not sure if it is a regression, happened before (and on mozilla-central)\n<li> Investigating if we made it worse with 3.6.14 changes\n<li> Adobe is pressing for a release due to a public CSRF issue\n<li> Once we get more data today, deciding proper way forward\n<ul>\n<li> Option 1: Release what we have for 3.6.14 and 3.5.17\n<li> Option 2: Release 3.6.13+CSRF fix as 3.6.14 and the current 3.5.17\n<li> Option 3: Release 3.6.13+CSRF fix as 3.6.14 and 3.5.16+CSRF fix as 3.5.17\n<\/ul>\n<li> Seamonkey release is dependent on 3.5.17 and Thunderbird is dependent on 3.6.14\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Firefox 3.6.15 and 3.5.18<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Waiting to send draft schedule until 3.6.14\/3.5.17 are resolved\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox Sync<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/AMO\/FlightDeck\/1.0a9\" title=\"AMO\/FlightDeck\/1.0a9\">Add-on Builder 1.0a9<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Builder 1.0a8 was release last Thursday and has been very well received by users. I saw an immediate up tick in account linking from AMO and add-on creation through the Builder.\n<ul>\n<li> Unsolicited-real-life-true-story feedback: &#8220;Great, I have it [my add-on] working now. Mozilla also updated the online addon Builder so it&#8217;s clear where your data directory is, very nice. Thanks for your help.&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;..the text editor is a LOT better\u00a0:)&#8221;\n<\/ul>\n<li> Starting with 1.0a9 there will be a change in the release structure, most notably, the addition of a maintenance release two weeks after the preceding feature release.\n<li> Still gunning for a beta 1 after release 1.0a10 (two releases away)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Labs\/Jetpack\/SDK\/1.0b3\" title=\"Labs\/Jetpack\/SDK\/1.0b3\">Add-on SDK 1.0b3<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> froze today at 11am\n<li> many bug fixes landed, plus big docs improvements\n<li> loader and e10s changes missed (loader changes should land early in 1.0b4 cycle; e10s changes still TBD)\n<li> RC1 scheduled for today\n<li> release scheduled for next Wednesday, February 23\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Input\/Releases\/3.2\" title=\"Firefox\/Input\/Releases\/3.2\">Input 3.2<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> release date: 2\/22\n<li> lots of refactoring\n<\/ul>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/aakash.doesthings.com\/2011\/02\/15\/firefox-input-3-1-dashboard-for-major-releases\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Input 3.1 is out<\/a>!\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Feedback Summary  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Since Beta 9, a huge increase in daily comments about memory and CPU usage <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?q=memory&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=&amp;date_start=2011-02-07&amp;date_end=&amp;sentiment=sad\" rel=\"nofollow\">507<\/a> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?q=memory&amp;product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad\" rel=\"nofollow\">5857<\/a>\n<li>Many people have commented on input the Beta 11 &#8220;feels slower&#8221; than beta 10\n<\/ul>\n<table border=\"1\" style=\"border: 2px solid #000;border-collapse: collapse\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<th scope=\"col\"> Issue<\/p>\n<th scope=\"col\"> SUMO<\/p>\n<th scope=\"col\"> Input<\/p>\n<th scope=\"col\"> Buglink<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><b>Unable to switch search engines\/locks up when using search bar<\/b><\/p>\n<td><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/783066\" rel=\"nofollow\">33<\/a>+<a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/783900\" rel=\"nofollow\">4<\/a><\/p>\n<td><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?q=search+bar&amp;product=firefox&amp;date_start=2011-02-07\" rel=\"nofollow\">538<\/a> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-02-07&amp;version=4.0b11&amp;os=win7&amp;q=search+box\" rel=\"nofollow\">91<\/a><\/p>\n<td><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=631746\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 631746<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><b>Double title bars when first using Firefox b1<\/b> Maybe Firebug<\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/783078\" rel=\"nofollow\">72<\/a><\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?q=title&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=4.0b11&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_start=2011-02-07\" rel=\"nofollow\">152<\/a><\/p>\n<td><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=633611\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 633611<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><b>Firefox 4 Beta 11 Slower than Beta 10<\/b><\/p>\n<td>\n<td><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?q=slow&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=4.0b11&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;os=win7&amp;date_start=2011-02-07\" rel=\"nofollow\">651<\/a> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=2011-02-07&amp;version=4.0b11&amp;os=win7&amp;q=fast\" rel=\"nofollow\">104<\/a><\/p>\n<td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Hotmail Constantly Reloading<\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/778113\" rel=\"nofollow\">[1]<\/a><a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/778261\" rel=\"nofollow\">[2]<\/a><\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?q=hotmail&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=4.0b11&amp;date_start=2011-02-07\" rel=\"nofollow\">3503<\/a><\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=627729\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 627729<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Facebook Chat not working<\/p>\n<td>\n<td><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?product=firefox&amp;version=4.0b11&amp;date_start=2011-02-07&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;q=facebook+chat\" rel=\"nofollow\">126<\/a><\/p>\n<td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Flash-related crashes (fb games, gmail,<\/p>\n<td>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?q=flash&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=4.0b11&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_start=2011-02-08\" rel=\"nofollow\">1451<\/a> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?q=crashes&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=4.0b11&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_start=2011-02-07\" rel=\"nofollow\">1296<\/a><\/p>\n<td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Font Rendering on Windows<\/p>\n<td>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?q=font&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=4.0b11&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_start=2011-02-07\" rel=\"nofollow\">204<\/a><\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=594325\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 594325<\/a> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=612846\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 612846<\/a> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=629857\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 629857<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Netflix streaming player doesn&#8217;t work OSX<\/p>\n<td>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?q=font&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=4.0b11&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_start=2011-02-07\" rel=\"nofollow\">204<\/a><\/p>\n<td> was <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=598406\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 598406<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> DivX player doesn&#8217;t work<\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/772223\" rel=\"nofollow\">35<\/a> (302+ overall)<\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?q=divx&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=4.0b11&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_start=2011-02-07\" rel=\"nofollow\">67<\/a><\/p>\n<td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Broken Panorama (missing button, changed shortcut)<\/p>\n<td>50+ from: <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/779881\" rel=\"nofollow\">[3]<\/a><a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/779588\" rel=\"nofollow\">[4]<\/a><a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/780412\" rel=\"nofollow\">[5]<\/a><a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/779976\" rel=\"nofollow\">[6]<\/a><\/p>\n<td><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?q=panorama&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=4.0b11&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_start=2011-02-07\" rel=\"nofollow\">254<\/a><\/p>\n<td><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=624588\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 624588<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>No save &amp; close dialog when closing Firefox w\/multiple tabs<\/p>\n<td>40-ish from: <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/779579\" rel=\"nofollow\">[7]<\/a><a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/780612\" rel=\"nofollow\">[8]<\/a><a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/780601\" rel=\"nofollow\">[9]<\/a><a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/780214\" rel=\"nofollow\">[10]<\/a><\/p>\n<td><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?q=save+tabs&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=4.0b11&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_start=2011-02-07\" rel=\"nofollow\">375<\/a><\/p>\n<td>caused by <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=592822\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 592822<\/a> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=550559\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 550559<\/a><br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> Gmail Locks Up<\/p>\n<td> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/support.mozilla.com\/en-US\/questions\/782635\" rel=\"nofollow\">5<\/a><\/p>\n<td><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/beta\/search?q=gmail&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=4.0b11&amp;os=win7&amp;date_start=2011-02-07\" rel=\"nofollow\">204<\/a><\/p>\n<td>\n<\/table>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Highlights \/ Notices <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Questions and Concerns <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Press &amp; Public Reactions <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.zdnet.com\/blog\/hardware\/first-look-at-firefox-5\/11446\" rel=\"nofollow\">First look at Firefox 5<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.conceivablytech.com\/5673\/products\/firefox-4-in-march-a-first-look-at-firefox-5\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox 4 in March, A First Look At Firefox 5<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pcworld.com\/article\/219663\/mozilla_firefox_4_for_android_to_ship_in_a_few_weeks.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla: Firefox 4 for Android to Ship in a Few Weeks<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.conceivablytech.com\/5654\/products\/mozilla-ie9-is-old\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla: IE9 Is Old <\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2011\/02\/15\/mozilla_on_ie9\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla: &#8216;Internet Explorer 9 is not a modern browser&#8217;<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/downloadsquad.switched.com\/2011\/02\/15\/firefox-4-infographic-from-mozilla-taunts-ie9\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox 4 infographic from Mozilla taunts IE9 <\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-02-16\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-02-16<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Firefox\/Planning\/2011-02-16 From MozillaWiki &lt; Firefox | Planning \u00ab previous week | index | next week \u00bb Firefox\/Gecko Delivery Meeting Details Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am PST, 18:00 UTC Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL) 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US) irc.mozilla.org #planning 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