{"id":554,"date":"2011-05-11T23:00:05","date_gmt":"2011-05-12T03:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/554"},"modified":"2011-05-11T23:00:05","modified_gmt":"2011-05-12T03:00:05","slug":"firefoxgecko-delivery-meeting-minutes-2011-05-11","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/554","title":{"rendered":"Firefox\/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-05-11"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Firefox\/Planning\/2011-05-11<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\" title=\"Firefox\">Firefox<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\">Planning<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p>                                                <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-05-04\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-05-04\">\u00ab previous week<\/a> | <a class=\"mw-redirect\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\" title=\"Firefox\/DeliveryMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Planning\/2011-05-18\" title=\"Firefox\/Planning\/2011-05-18\">next week \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Planning Meeting Details<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC\n<li> Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room\n<li> Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"irc:\/\/irc.mozilla.org\/planning\" rel=\"nofollow\">irc.mozilla.org #planning<\/a> for backchannel\n<li> (the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Platform#Meetings\" title=\"Platform\">developer meeting<\/a> takes place on Tuesdays)\n<\/ul>\n<div style=\"margin: 1em 0px;padding: 1em;background-color: orange;text-align: center\"><b>REMEMBER<\/b><\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: x-small\">These notes are read by people who weren&#8217;t able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<p>&lt;script&gt;if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = &#8220;show&#8221;; var tocHideText = &#8220;hide&#8221;; showTocToggle(); } &lt;\/script&gt;<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Actions from Last Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Jay to come back next week with an update on the feature inbox triage process &#8212; We triaged on Monday, dispatched about half the items, others need more information and use cases before they can be evaluated.\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule &amp; Progress on <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\" title=\"Releases\">Upcoming Releases<\/a> <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox 3.6.x\/3.5.x\/4.0.x<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> The <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/3.5_EOL\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox 3.5 EOL plan<\/a> has been sent to release-drivers, will be sent wider today (dev-planning and blog post) if no issues are found\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Releases\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox 3.6.18<\/a> will be a normal release and will release at the same time as Firefox 5\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/glow.mozilla.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/glow.mozilla.com<\/a> showing uptake of MU nicely!\u00a0\ud83d\ude42\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox 5 (Desktop) <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Add-on compatibility update from fligtar\n<ul>\n<li> Automatic compatibility bump tools to be completed this week\n<li> Aiming to do the 5.* bump in 2 weeks\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Merge to beta happens next week<\/b>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/channels\/2011\/05\/11\/merge-dates-vs-release-dates\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Blog post about when to expect the channel updates<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Does that mean the Firefox 5 beta release will be before the 5.* AMO compatibility bump?\n<ul>\n<li> yes, quite likely. We expect to be ready to ship within a week of the merge, and since we&#8217;re creating new tools for the AMO compatibility bump there&#8217;s some risk to their date. After we&#8217;ve tested the beta merge and are ready to go we&#8217;ll see where we are on the compatibility front before making the release decision.\n<li> Current 5.* add-on compatibility is 29%, half our normal compatibility when we&#8217;ve shipped a beta. We don&#8217;t know how this will impact uptake.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox 6 (Desktop) <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <b>Merge to aurora happens in 2 weeks<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/channels\/2011\/05\/11\/merge-dates-vs-release-dates\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Blog post about when to expect the channel updates<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Fennec 4.0.x<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox 5 (Mobile) <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Scheduled for May 17\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.planning\/browse_thread\/thread\/0bba62fb4ecaf8fb\/71c4ca999f3ef1a1\" rel=\"nofollow\">Rapid Release Status<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/mozilla.dev.planning\/browse_thread\/thread\/7190f2787f5ac7f9\/2ce7137bdb0886d5\" rel=\"nofollow\">Branch Mechanics<\/a>\n<li> Branding for beta has landed on mozilla-aurora\n<li> Android package ID is org.mozilla.firefox_beta so the beta can be installed side-by-side with other channels\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox 6 (Mobile) <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Scheduled for May 24\n<ul>\n<li> Merging mozilla-central to mozilla-aurora\n<li> Branding for Aurora has landed\n<li> Android package ID is org.mozilla.fennec_aurora so aurora can be installed side-by-side with other channels\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\">Firefox Sync<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/AMO\/FlightDeck\/0.9.2\" title=\"AMO\/FlightDeck\/0.9.2\">Add-on Builder 0.9.2<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Labs\/Jetpack\/SDK\/1.0b5\" title=\"Labs\/Jetpack\/SDK\/1.0b5\">Add-on SDK 1.0b5<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><b>Myk is in China and I (Dave Mason) can&#8217;t hear on the phone &#8211; read the wiki!<\/b>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Released 1.0b5 last Thursday\n<li> On track to release first RC ~ May 25th\n<li> On track to complete 1.0 by early June\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Firefox\/Input\/Releases\/3.5\" title=\"Firefox\/Input\/Releases\/3.5\">Input 3.5<\/a><\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> ETA: 5\/16\n<ul>\n<li> Fancier submission methods on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/input.stage.mozilla.com\/en-US\/feedback\" rel=\"nofollow\">desktop<\/a>.\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;component=Input&amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;target_milestone=3.5&amp;product=Webtools\" rel=\"nofollow\">Full list of bugs fixed<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Note:\n<ul>\n<li> Grouperfish is about 2-4 weeks out from being integrated into Input. Michael is working on <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/michaelku\/grouperfish\/issues\" rel=\"nofollow\">a few blockers<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Feedback Summary  <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Aurora Feedback <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>More positive this week than last week, overall.\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Windows Media Player not compatible <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/search?product=firefox&amp;version=5.0a2&amp;date_start=2011-05-03&amp;date_end=&amp;q=media\" rel=\"nofollow\">[1]<\/a>\n<li>Extension compatibility (on the plus side, people say it&#8217;s more responsive\/faster startup)\n<li>Youtube buffering issues <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/search?q=youtube&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=5.0a2&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_start=2011-05-03\" rel=\"nofollow\">[2]<\/a> or maybe laggy\/slow <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/search?locale=en-US&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=5.0a2&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;q=youtube\" rel=\"nofollow\">[3]<\/a>\n<li>Netflix streaming doesn&#8217;t work <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/search?q=netflix&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=5.0a2&amp;date_start=2011-05-03\" rel=\"nofollow\">[4]<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=650141\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=650141<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li>Flash game loading issues\/slow. <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/search?locale=en-US&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=5.0a2&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;q=flash\" rel=\"nofollow\">[5]<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> 4.0.1 Feedback <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Printing <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/search?q=printing&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=4.0.1&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_start=2011-05-03\" rel=\"nofollow\">[6]<\/a> &#8212; Might be incompatible HP web printing plugin\/extension (unclear) which seems to break printing on any printer, but especially web printing.\n<li>Can&#8217;t open PDFs <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/search?q=pdfs&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=4.0.1&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_start=2011-05-03\" rel=\"nofollow\">[7]<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li>might be: bug 613756 or bug 642454\n<\/ul>\n<li>Yahoo (can&#8217;t attach files to mail) <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/search?q=yahoo+mail&amp;product=firefox&amp;version=4.0.1&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_start=2011-05-03\" rel=\"nofollow\">[8]<\/a>\n<li>Mouse scrolling issues (may be related to having a PDF open\/open in background) <a class=\"external autonumber\" href=\"http:\/\/input.mozilla.com\/en-US\/search?product=firefox&amp;sentiment=sad&amp;date_end=&amp;date_start=&amp;version=5.0a2&amp;q=scrolling\" rel=\"nofollow\">[9]<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li>might be: bug 613756 or bug 642454\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>After major update, the following issues came back:\n<ul>\n<li>Want to downgrade\n<li>How to save tabs\n<li>Refresh button\n<li>Back button\n<li>Status bar\n<li>Extensions: mainly IDM\n<li>Much slower (?)\n<li>PDF-related issues (can&#8217;t open, scrolling around PDFs)\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Press &amp; Public Reactions <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.digitaltrends.com\/computing\/firefox-4-downloads-spike-with-automatic-upgrade-offers\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox 4 downloads spike with automatic upgrade offers<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.computerworld.com\/s\/article\/9216559\/Upgrade_offer_boosts_Firefox_4_share_by_30_\" rel=\"nofollow\">Upgrade offer boosts Firefox 4 share by 30%<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.computerworlduk.com\/open-enterprise\/2011\/05\/why-we-need-firefox\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Why We Need Firefox<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.itpro.co.uk\/633409\/webgl-flaws-hit-firefox-and-chrome\" rel=\"nofollow\">WebGL flaws hit Firefox and Chrome<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2011\/05\/11\/chrome_firefox_security_threat\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">New graphics engine imperils users of Firefox and Chrome<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pocket-lint.com\/news\/39967\/firefox-chrome-webgl-serious-threat\" rel=\"nofollow\">Firefox and Chrome WebGL poses &#8220;multiple significant security issues&#8221;<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Questions and Concerns <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Will there be a product-level signoff before the merge to beta, as per the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/mozilla.github.com\/process-releases\/draft\/development_overview\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">new development process<\/a> which examines whether the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=OPEN%20tracking-firefox5%3A%2B&amp;list_id=240774\" rel=\"nofollow\">issues being tracked<\/a> are in a good enough state to merge forward to that audience? 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