{"id":561,"date":"2011-05-18T23:00:09","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T03:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/561"},"modified":"2011-05-18T23:00:09","modified_gmt":"2011-05-19T03:00:09","slug":"mobile-meeting-minutes-2011-05-18","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/561","title":{"rendered":"Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2011-05-18"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"with-menu\">\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Mobile\/Notes\/18-May-2011<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\" title=\"Mobile\">Mobile<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\" title=\"Mobile\/Notes\">Notes<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Details <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC\n<li> 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL)\n<li> 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)\n<li> irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> Fennec 5 Beta (May 17)\n<ul>\n<li> Merge happened yesterday\n<li> Builds are available\n<li> Android package ID is org.mozilla.firefox_beta so the beta can be installed side-by-side with other channels\n<\/ul>\n<li> Fennec 6 (May 24)\n<ul>\n<li> Merging mozilla-central to mozilla-aurora\n<li> Branding for Aurora has landed on mozilla-central and will get pushed over to mozilla-aurora when we merge\n<li> Android package ID is org.mozilla.fennec_aurora so aurora can be installed side-by-side with other channels\n<li> We need to re-evaluate the feature list. Most Fx6 features will end up pushed to Fx7.\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Major Topics for This Week <\/span><\/h2>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Application <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Front-end <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Work for FF6 -&gt; We have <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Features\/Mobile\" rel=\"nofollow\">Features<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking-fennec%3A6\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bugs<\/a> and Testing\n<li> Landed:\n<ul>\n<li> Touch events\n<li> Session Store Enhancements &#8211; save the state sooner\n<li> Anti-malware\/phishing &#8211; defaulted off until the back end uses smaller files\n<li> Better browser feature discoverability\n<li> Visual refresh &#8211; backend code landed\n<li> CSS themes for different Android versions &#8211; core landed\n<li> Tablet UI &#8211; core changes for browser tool panels landed\n<\/ul>\n<li> In-Progress:\n<ul>\n<li> Language selection &#8211; patches are close to landing\n<li> Session Store Enhancements &#8211; patch started for history and scroll position\n<li> Mobilize text &#8211; viewport designs in-progress\n<\/ul>\n<li> Ready to Start\n<ul>\n<li> Better integration for form assistant on Android\n<\/ul>\n<li> At Risk\n<ul>\n<li> Disk cache\n<li> Anti-malware\/phishing &#8211; backend\n<li> Android text selection handles &#8211; stalled\n<li> Tablet UI &#8211; actionbar\/sidebar design and coding have started\n<li> Visual refresh &#8211; css and image changes are in progress\n<li> Others?\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li> Bug triage has been ongoing &#8211; check your assignments!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> UX design <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> First-run flow, incorporating lang selection and discover: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/farm3.static.flickr.com\/2378\/5733659893_8e0459857f_o.jpg\" rel=\"nofollow\">flow diagram<\/a> (Brian)\n<ul>\n<li> meeting this aft to make sure what we have for v6 is polished\n<\/ul>\n<li> Gingerbread themeing &#8211; <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/61892693@N03\/sets\/72157626609900587\/detail\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/61892693@N03\/sets\/72157626609900587\/detail\/<\/a> (Ian)\n<ul>\n<li> this is on the edge in terms of v6 or no v6 &#8212; need to sort out schedule with dev\n<\/ul>\n<li> plan to land Form Assistant Android Integration for v6 &#8211; <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=636339\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 636339<\/a> &#8211; Better VKB integration for form assistant\n<li> Error pages + rewrite\u00a0: <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/61892693@N03\/5693665794\/in\/set-72157626660609510\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/61892693@N03\/5693665794\/in\/set-72157626660609510<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Platform Support <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Android <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> work progressing on plugin support\n<ul>\n<li> Java proxying gets to the point of initializing the surface for the surface drawing model and hangs, need to investigate\n<li> <a class=\"external free\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/dougt_mozilla.com\/wip\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/dougt_mozilla.com\/wip\/<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Cache compression patch shows a slight perf improvement\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=624163\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 624163<\/a> Rich text editor (i.e. google docs and etherpad) has a patch and needs review from dougt\n<li> Alex is working on the hidden master password to be stored by Android Account Manager\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Maemo <\/span><\/h3>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Performance <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=617115\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 617115<\/a> &#8211; We have patches to build with NDK5. Preliminary tests show it gives a nice speedup (10-25% depending on benchmark), but there are conflicting reports as well.\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Testing <\/span><\/h2>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> QA <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/Milestones\/5.0b1\" rel=\"nofollow\">Test Plan for 5.0 Beta is ready<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/aaronmt.com\/?p=462\" rel=\"nofollow\">Testday this Friday for Firefox 5<\/a>, send out the word!\n<li> We&#8217;re beginning <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/aaronmt.com\/?p=449\" rel=\"nofollow\">Device Compatibility checking as well<\/a>, please share the survey link\n<\/ul>\n<li> Nomination queue <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=cf_blocking_fennec&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;value0-0-0=%3F&amp;list_id=290371\" rel=\"nofollow\">is at 4<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/QA\/Fennec\/Waverley#Results\" rel=\"nofollow\">Detailed Waverley Results<\/a>\n<li><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=QA\/Fennec\/crash_rep_18may\" rel=\"nofollow\">Top crashes<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Test Suites <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Test Automation <\/span><\/h3>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Release Engineering <\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/intranet.mozilla.org\/Build:Mobile:Priorities\" rel=\"nofollow\">Priorities page<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=657534\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 657534<\/a> &#8211; Fennec 5.0b2 &#8211; unsigned builds available\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=557260\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 557260<\/a> &#8211; MobileBuildFactory should inherit MercurialBuildFactory\n<ul>\n<li> Patches pending review.\n<li> We need to land soon, to unblock 6.0 release work.\n<li> Timing would be best either in the 2nd half of this week (before m-c -&gt; m-aurora) or after the m-c -&gt; m-aurora merge calms down.\n<\/ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=656371\" rel=\"nofollow\">bug 656371<\/a> &#8211; remove org.mozilla.fennec hardcodes from Tegra automation\n<ul>\n<li> Ready to land\n<\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Other <\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Cristian Nicolae:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> Clear button is clearing only the history list (and I think also Cache from Android). Fennec Data is not affected at all. Taping on Clear Data button from Android means:\n<ul>\n<li> creating a new profile, if the app is running from phone memory\n<li> no results, if the app is running from SD Card (in this case user is unable to do anything about it, only to erase manually the data stored from SD Card)\n<\/ul>\n<li> User should be able to:\n<ul>\n<li> Clear any kind of data he\/she wants (cache, history, cookies, form data) and not all of them (as it is now)\n<\/ul>\n<li> I think that increasing app&#8217;s size and keep it going in this way will decrease its rating. Android phones still doesn&#8217;t have enough memory (as it&#8217;s happening for Apple phones). What do you think about this?\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/18-May-2011\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Mobile\/Notes\/18-May-2011<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mobile\/Notes\/18-May-2011 &lt; Mobile | Notes Details Wednesdays &#8211; 9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern, 16:30 UTC 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US\/INTL) 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US) irc.mozilla.org #mobile for backchannel Schedule Fennec 5 Beta (May 17) Merge happened yesterday Builds are available Android package ID is org.mozilla.firefox_beta so the beta can be installed side-by-side [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[124],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/561"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=561"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/561\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=561"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=561"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=561"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}