{"id":574,"date":"2011-06-07T23:00:07","date_gmt":"2011-06-08T03:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/574"},"modified":"2011-06-07T23:00:07","modified_gmt":"2011-06-08T03:00:07","slug":"thunderbird-meeting-minutes-2011-06-07","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/archives\/574","title":{"rendered":"Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-06-07"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<h1 id=\"page-title\">Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-07<\/h1>\n<hr>\n<div><span class=\"subpages\">&lt; <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\" title=\"Thunderbird\">Thunderbird<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">StatusMeetings<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-05-31\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-05-31\">last meeting<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\">index<\/a> | <a class=\"new\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/index.php?title=Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-13&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-13 (page does not exist)\">next meeting \u00bb<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<table>\n<caption> <b>Current Release Schedules<\/b><br \/>\n<\/caption>\n<tr>\n<th width=\"50%\"> Thunderbird 5.0 Final Beta <\/p>\n<th> Thunderbird 3.1.11<br \/>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td> ETA: end of week<\/p>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li> Code freeze: TBD\n<li> L10n freeze: TBD\n<li> Builds start: TBD\n<li> QA with builds start: TBD\n<li> Beta period starts: TBD\n<li> Final release: 21 June\n<\/ul>\n<\/table>\n<p>\n<b>Thunderbird Meeting Details<\/b>\u00a0:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?year=2011&amp;month=06&amp;day=07&amp;hour=16&amp;min=30&amp;sec=0\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tuesday, June 7, 2011 16:30 UTC<\/a> (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeeting\/DialInInfo\">How to dial-in<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.<\/p>\n<p>Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\" title=\"Thunderbird\/CommunicationChannels\">communications<\/a> page\n<\/p>\n<h2> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Agenda  <\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Who&#8217;s taking minutes? &#8211;&gt; <b>sancus<\/b>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/calendar\/embed?mode=agenda&amp;src=5m2lftdbbr6c3dr9s3foivs278%40group.calendar.google.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minute taking Schedule<\/a>. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes\/additions.\n<li> Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Action Items  <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Friends of the Tree <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Thanks to our Friends of the Tree When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> New Thunderbird Managing Director, JB Piacentino <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> started yesterday June 6, 2011\n<li> based in Paris, France\n<li> background: product management, business development, mobile, startups\n<li> met California team in Mountain View on Monday, meeting team in Vancouver 3 days this week, Toronto, end of week and then European folks\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Development <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>For more details, see also the <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Driver_Meetings\/2011-05-31\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Driver Meetings\/2011-05-31\">driver meeting notes<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Feature_Work\" title=\"Thunderbird:Feature Work\">Feature Work<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments#Account_Provisioner\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Account Provisioner<\/a> <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> The providers all preferred the old design to the new provider-first design, so we&#8217;ll go with that, as long as the privacy review agrees.\n<li> Contracts are moving forward.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> OpenSearch <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Squib has fixed a number of bugs, and bwinton needs to respond to his pull request\u2026\n<li> The current list of issues is at <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/mozilla\/opensearch\/issues\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/github.com\/mozilla\/opensearch\/issues<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Experiments\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Experiments\">Experiments<\/a> <\/span><\/h4>\n<p>Blake to start taking a look at this instead of clarkbw\n<\/p>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Conversations <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> All blocking bugs for b1 resolved. Waiting on the translators to finish before submitting to AMO.\n<li> New branch that allows you to comment on a bug directly from the quick reply area, assuming you are viewing a bugmail thread. Will merge to master after b1 is out. Works pretty great!\n<li> More polish, as always. Thunderbird work to enhance the interaction. Finally fixed (Thunderbird side) the long standing bug of the IMIP bar that would never disappear.\n<li> See <a class=\"external free\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/protz\/GMail-Conversation-View\/issues?sort=created&amp;direction=desc&amp;state=open&amp;page=1\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/github.com\/protz\/GMail-Conversation-View\/issues?sort=created&amp;direction=desc&amp;state=open&amp;page=1<\/a> if you want to give a hand.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Compose in a tab <\/span><\/h5>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird Sync <\/span><\/h5>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Account Summary <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Really (really!) close to a 1.0 release, just cleaning up a few things and closing out the last issues\n<li> Folder\/account summaries now listen to events in order to stay up-to-date\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Ubuntu Unity Integration <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> De-RDF&#8217;ing patch should be up on Bugzilla by the end of the day.  Woo!\n<li> We&#8217;ve hit a minor roadblock wrt space on the Ubuntu O CD &#8211; the Canonical folk are still unsure whether or not there will be space for TB for this cycle (it doesn&#8217;t sound like there will be), perhaps sharing libxul with Firefox will help\n<li> EDS contact integration still moving forward.  I&#8217;m adding hooks to make the address book contact editor more extendable.\n<\/ul>\n<h4> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Schedule and Progress <\/span><\/h4>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 5 (Miramar) <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/mzl.la\/tb_50b1\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thunderbird 5.0 first beta released<\/a>\n<li> Working on final blockers and l10n approvals for second and final planned beta.\n<li> Hoping to start build soon after 23:59 PDT on Wednesday 8th, will release as soon as we&#8217;re ready.\n<li> 5.* has been added to AMO, doing a blog post for extensions later today.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 6 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Now on aurora channel.\n<li> Tree is <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/tinderbox.mozilla.org\/showbuilds.cgi?tree=Thunderbird-Aurora\" rel=\"nofollow\">aurora tree<\/a> green.\n<li> Once we <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/tb-planning\/browse_frm\/thread\/9d4b37dd52692b32\" rel=\"nofollow\">finalise the name<\/a>, we&#8217;ll start nightly builds &#8211; hopefully Thursday or Friday.\n<li> We have approval-comm-aurora, tracking flags are on their way, details coming to tb-planning soon.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 7 <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Currently on comm-central.\n<\/ul>\n<h5> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Thunderbird 3.1.x <\/span><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li> Next release ETA June 21.\n<li> Bug Lists: <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/hg.mozilla.org\/users\/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com\/drivertools\/raw-file\/default\/bugtracking\/index.html?branch=3.1\" rel=\"nofollow\">3.1<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Extension of the week <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/addons.mozilla.org\/en-US\/thunderbird\/addon\/identity-chooser\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Identity Chooser<\/a>\u00a0: is an extension useful when you have <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/using-identities\" rel=\"nofollow\">identities<\/a> (or email aliases) on one mail account, you sometime send emails with the wrong From:. With this extension installed it should never happen again.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird:Testing\" title=\"Thunderbird:Testing\">QA<\/a> Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Worked on TB 5.0b1\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Marketing Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> PR Update: Over 20 articles for the Thunderbird Beta release, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pcauthority.com.au\/News\/259630,thunderbird-conversations-brings-threaded-emails-and-more-to-mozilla8217s-email-client.aspx\" rel=\"nofollow\">1<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/opensource.cbronline.com\/news\/mozilla-releases-first-thunderbird-5-beta-060611\" rel=\"nofollow\">2<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.h-online.com\/open\/news\/item\/Thunderbird-5-0-arrives-in-Beta-channel-skips-4-0-1254583.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">3<\/a>, <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theinquirer.net\/inquirer\/news\/2076158\/mozilla-fires-thunderbird-beta\" rel=\"nofollow\">4<\/a>\n<li> Thunderbird ADUs: still at 7MM ADUs w\/ 86.7% on latest major release; ~75k average downloads per day\n<li> Continuing web design work, in review.\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Infrastructure Update  <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Sumomo\/Kitsune<\/a>\u00a0: Upgraded\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Build \/ Release Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Thunderbird 5.0b1 build 2 pushed to test channels.  Pushing 3.1.10-&gt;5.0b1 major updates to beta channel soon.\n<li> Final beta build this week\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Web Update <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> working on merging parts of mozillamessaging.com into mozilla.org\n<li> finishing up AMO patch, took longer than expected!\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Documentation <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/openhelpconference.com\/index.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Open Help conference<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.mozillamessaging.com\/docs\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">blog post<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/www.slideshare.net\/jenzed\/coordinating-documentation-and-support-turning-complaints-into-contributions\" rel=\"nofollow\">my talk<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<li> Thunderbird 5\n<ul>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/support-stage.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/kb\/new-thunderbird-5\" rel=\"nofollow\">New in TB 5 on staging site<\/a>\n<li> other articles and updates go live today\n<\/ul>\n<li> ongoing updates regarding updating Mozilla&#8217;s engagement sites and pages (integrating Thunderbird)\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/Support\" title=\"Thunderbird\/Support\">Support<\/a> <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/mail.mozilla.org\/listinfo\/tb-support-crew\" rel=\"nofollow\">subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list<\/a> and briefly introduce yourself to the list)\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> 1231 new support topics (1239 last week) &#8211; <a class=\"internal\" href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/images\/e\/e3\/30May-5June2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png\" title=\"30May-5June2011-Community stats for Mozilla Messaging.png\">Media:30May-5June2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png<\/a>\n<li> <a class=\"external text\" href=\"https:\/\/developer.mozilla.org\/devnews\/index.php\/2011\/06\/02\/thunderbird-beta-now-available\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thunderbird 5 Beta 1 is out<\/a>! <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/support.mozillamessaging.com\/en-US\/forums\/knowledge-base-articles\" rel=\"nofollow\">Would love some help with contributors to write some knowledge base articles<\/a>. No experience required, just a copy of Thunderbird and the ability to write in English or translate. We&#8217;ll polish up your writing and make it sing!\n<li> See <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-07\/SupportAppendix\" title=\"Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-07\/SupportAppendix\">this week&#8217;s Support Appendix<\/a> for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details\n<\/ol>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Lightning Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li> Low number of blockers left, the remaining ones can be postponed to the next release if needed\n<li> l10n sign-off completes today, around 30 locales will be ready\n<li> We need a strategy for the new branching\/release schedules. Lightning can&#8217;t handle 3 branches!\n<li> comm-central unit testers waiting on some core bugs\n<li> Testing, testing, testing&#8230;\n<\/ul>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Status Updates <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>See the <a class=\"external text\" href=\"http:\/\/benjamin.smedbergs.us\/weekly-updates.fcgi\/project\/thunderbird\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mozilla Status Board<\/a> for status updates specific to developers.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Roundtable Highlights <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Can we get some of the FF info around release numbers, to answer some of the questions we&#8217;re getting.<\/p>\n<p>Canary might be available in less than a month.\n<\/p>\n<h3> <span class=\"mw-headline\"> Attendees  <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>jhopkins, jb, davida, jenzed, ludo, rolandtanglao,standard8 aka Mark Banner, gozer, rebron, bievenu, mconley, bwinton, sancus, andreasn, fallen aka Philipp Kewisch, wmswk aka Wayne Mery<\/p>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<div class=\"printfooter\">\nRetrieved from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-07\">https:\/\/wiki.mozilla.org\/Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-07<\/a>&#8220;<\/div>\n<div class=\"catlinks catlinks-allhidden\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"visualClear\"><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thunderbird\/StatusMeetings\/2011-06-07 &lt; Thunderbird | StatusMeetings last meeting | index | next meeting \u00bb Current Release Schedules Thunderbird 5.0 Final Beta Thunderbird 3.1.11 ETA: end of week Code freeze: TBD L10n freeze: TBD Builds start: TBD QA with builds start: TBD Beta period starts: TBD Final release: 21 June Thunderbird Meeting Details\u00a0: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":195,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[209],"tags":[40],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/574"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/195"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=574"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/574\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=574"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=574"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/meeting-notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=574"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}